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May 18, 2022, 10:20:53 PM
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Small plants have a value.   People happily give you money for small plants.  Therefore the more you have available the larger your plant savings account grows.
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In times of high inflation, commodities are one of the 1st places people invest their wealth in the hope of it retaining its value. While taking delivery of barrels of oil or bushels of wheat might lie outside the budget, shipping capacity and storage space of most.

We may have other options available like small plants or trees. One interesting aspect to consider is plants and trees tend to grow physically larger over time, which only increases their value. Not only can plants be an investment but they can also appreciate in value over time, earning interest.

Nuts and fruit from trees can be sold on amazon for profit. Prices are skyrocketing at the moment. I have seen lychee fruit selling on amazon for $17 a pound. It is higher priced per unit than almonds.

If food shortages hit. The value of plants, fruits, nuts and trees could rise dramatically. Which could make it a decent place to invest wealth in planning for future inflation.



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May 18, 2022, 11:00:19 PM
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Right.

It is always been part of my dream to own not just a backyaed full of fruit bearing trees but an actual farm where I become a producer of it.

Not just in nearby towns but in most cities. This pandemic has given us the thoughts of how things can change quickly if we are not prepared for the worst.

It all started as a hobby while being on locked down into a dream and little by little will become a real thing as plan being executed.

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Farming was never a bad idea in developed countries. Farmers in US and Japan are extremely rich and earn more than many top executives. But in many other corrupted countries, farmers live a miserable life. If you are looking for investment, fossil fuel is still a better choice if you can store it in proper condition. But yes, trees and plants can provide recurring returns over a long period of time. Also if you can do the right packaging, you can build a brand out of it.

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What you are saying is essentially: Farming particularly for nuts and fruits, this indeed needs a lot of work as well, it cannot also be done on the side lines since at the end of the day it would need proper space, Investment, quality control, making sure you use manure and GMO sometimes can be expensive, you can also take loans for it in the start and repay along the way, I don't think it would work for most people since most of them already have a job and cannot dedicated time to at least 50 saplings to make profits on a larger scale so they would consider leaving it. You also need proper education in that regards but if you succeed you would definitely be making money in most developed countries in the developing ones most of them are farmers so doesn't really work like that.

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May 19, 2022, 06:53:56 PM
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What you are saying is essentially: Farming particularly for nuts and fruits, this indeed needs a lot of work as well, it cannot also be done on the side lines since at the end of the day it would need proper space, Investment, quality control, making sure you use manure and GMO sometimes can be expensive, you can also take loans for it in the start and repay along the way, I don't think it would work for most people since most of them already have a job and cannot dedicated time to at least 50 saplings to make profits on a larger scale so they would consider leaving it. You also need proper education in that regards but if you succeed you would definitely be making money in most developed countries in the developing ones most of them are farmers so doesn't really work like that.

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May 19, 2022, 11:51:45 PM
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What you are saying is essentially: Farming particularly for nuts and fruits, this indeed needs a lot of work as well, it cannot also be done on the side lines since at the end of the day it would need proper space, Investment, quality control, making sure you use manure and GMO sometimes can be expensive


I think it is an easier plan for those who reside in tropical regions. Who have growing seasons year round, without having to contend with winter frost. I have fruit trees that produce fruit without me giving them fertilizer or compost. Sun, rain and whatever minerals and worm castings are naturally found in the environment appear to be enough for them.

Its more difficult for those in cities. But even they might drive to the outskirts and find a woodland area no one is using to stash their plants. Guerilla gardening has been a thing for a long time as far as I know.

It could also be good for city planners to include more space for communal gardens and areas to help reduce concrete heat island effect. Plants clean the air and reduce smog and pollutants. Having more of them in a city can only improve things.

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The thing is you need a large yard if you want to have a garden to fulfill your daily life foods, if you only have small yard, your plants won't enough to fill your daily foods. If your house doesn't have a large yard, you need to buy land and it's expensive. It's just a cost for land alone and you need to buy seeds, moss, etc etc to take care your plants. It's not really that easy to grow a plants, but this is a good diversification of investment.
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Farm for crops I think is what I would consider the most to be self sufficient in times where there is food shortage. Fruit bearing trees is one but it does have seasons which they bear fruit once every year only.

In India, we use to have cows in every home because this tend will feed us which we get milk everyday. This is going to be sufficient at least not going to be dependent to the day job.

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May 20, 2022, 05:12:13 AM
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I have never viewed plants like this and I think I have changed my perspective on it. I do want to utilize the space that we have got at my house to convert it to something like this. I would really like to do this knowing that it could be fruitful in terms of the future. It's really one thing that I would want when I have a large space of my own. Now what I'm thinking of is how I can make sure that I'm on the right track on doing this. I need to think long term.

This is really interesting IMO.

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That is a very good idea. I've already done it once, but sadly, I lacked the investment to purchase bigger pots to replace the small pots from the seedlings. As the plants/trees grow you have to transplant them into bigger pots. That is unfortunate, but each plastic big pot is absurdly expensive here and the only option was to purchase on the internet, which turned into being even more expensive, because the transport fees.

Now I'm thinking about bottles of wine. I've heard it's a very profitable investment on long run. In fact, more profitable than assets. If you have a good taste for wines, know the grapes and the wineries, that might be a good idea for you!

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That is a very good idea. I've already done it once, but sadly, I lacked the investment to purchase bigger pots to replace the small pots from the seedlings. As the plants/trees grow you have to transplant them into bigger pots. That is unfortunate, but each plastic big pot is absurdly expensive here and the only option was to purchase on the internet, which turned into being even more expensive, because the transport fees.

Now I'm thinking about bottles of wine. I've heard it's a very profitable investment on long run. In fact, more profitable than assets. If you have a good taste for wines, know the grapes and the wineries, that might be a good idea for you!
I know people love plants. I did a venture a few years ago too - and I was profitable too. But I feel ill and I didn't have another back support and most of my plants died. This is very good small business idea. If you have a sunny space and a back up support as well. I would love to do it again when I have an investment.

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That's right. I like this idea. Especially if one has an idle piece of land, it should be planted with plants and trees. If one cannot afford to spend time everyday taking care of plants, one could simply choose to plant trees, fruit-bearing trees in particular. Not only do trees help the environment, they also provide food or even extra income.

What I noticed, though, is that young people nowadays are not anymore interested in small agricultural activities like planting and taking care of vegetables, root crops, and trees.

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Interesting but the question is for how long there is opportunity in the commodities? We know very well how inflation works, it’s not permanent and every country is always at its best to increase the national income and reset the economic crisis.

World has just came out of worst pandemic (pretty much out). So what we see as opportunity at this point could turn out to be normal thing in the future.

But commodities is always good business if thought about for long terms.
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Farming/planting plants are always a relevant investment when you have proper knowledge how to grow crops. Even If you're in a tropical country, there are still risk of failures.

Sad to say, not more people have actually think of it as a form of investment, while there are wide hectares of unused lands that could be use to plant crops that would potentially sell on the local market and even internationally. The main reason why, is the lack of knowledge. There were farmers who knew how to grow them but they don't have the financial capacity to do so.

I personally knew the "Falcata" tree which gives good 8-10 years of return with low maintenance costs and effort. This is most common in our region.

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May 20, 2022, 10:43:25 AM
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Small plants have a value.   People happily give you money for small plants.  Therefore the more you have available the larger your plant savings account grows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVwkcLooE9o
I remembered here in our country (PH) where moms and those who are just inside their houses because of the pandemic just got bored, and they needed to spend their time wisely and that is how growing small plants happen. Just to fight their boredom, they spent their time growing small plants and there are some who sells the plants they grew, and there are some who are selling it on live stream. These plants can be displayed at the front of the house etc.

It's good to see people at that time and even today spending time growing and selling their small plants. Easy money for their daily needs.

If food shortages hit. The value of plants, fruits, nuts and trees could rise dramatically. Which could make it a decent place to invest wealth in planning for future inflation.
The only downside that I'm seeing in planting fruit-bearing trees is that it will take years before they will bear fruits, but once they will bear fruits, it will be continuous. Space can also be a problem as well for those who doesn't have enough space to plant trees with. This is also the reason why I want to buy an open-farm in the future. I want to plant fruit-bearing trees.

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May 20, 2022, 10:49:34 AM
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When I've read the topic I was thinking: tulips? LOL!  Cheesy (no offense, one has to have fun now and then)

Small plants have a value.

You're right, but there's a big "but":
One has to learn first. One has to understand the ways, else he will only waste time and money instead of getting any plants.
One has to sell plants with good potential, else the customers' plants will keep dying and the bad reviews may become a rule, not an exception.

This is how I see it. Plants are alive and it's not that easy to handle them. Also not all of them are suitable for any place in the world.

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May 20, 2022, 11:20:11 AM
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Small plants have a value.   People happily give you money for small plants.  Therefore the more you have available the larger your plant savings account grows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVwkcLooE9o





In times of high inflation, commodities are one of the 1st places people invest their wealth in the hope of it retaining its value. While taking delivery of barrels of oil or bushels of wheat might lie outside the budget, shipping capacity and storage space of most.

We may have other options available like small plants or trees. One interesting aspect to consider is plants and trees tend to grow physically larger over time, which only increases their value. Not only can plants be an investment but they can also appreciate in value over time, earning interest.

Nuts and fruit from trees can be sold on amazon for profit. Prices are skyrocketing at the moment. I have seen lychee fruit selling on amazon for $17 a pound. It is higher priced per unit than almonds.

If food shortages hit. The value of plants, fruits, nuts and trees could rise dramatically. Which could make it a decent place to invest wealth in planning for future inflation.


Anything physical has a value really, is just a question of choosing a storage that is cheap to maintain, easy to liquidate, easy to move,... So the idea of crops may be interesting, it has to be taken with a pinch of salt. Selling food in Amazon or in any other place requires a number of licences and it is not cheap.

There are ways to invest in those asset without the "DIY" element - that would be the funds that invest in forests or agricultural land. That should work as a good proxy for these.

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Interesting. The problem however is that if this is encouraged on a larger scale food could become expensive and unaffordable.
I think it will be better if they handle this in such a way that foods become less expensive as more is produced, without compromising on quality.
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May 20, 2022, 12:09:41 PM
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Small plants have a value.   People happily give you money for small plants.  Therefore the more you have available the larger your plant savings account grows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVwkcLooE9o





In times of high inflation, commodities are one of the 1st places people invest their wealth in the hope of it retaining its value. While taking delivery of barrels of oil or bushels of wheat might lie outside the budget, shipping capacity and storage space of most.

We may have other options available like small plants or trees. One interesting aspect to consider is plants and trees tend to grow physically larger over time, which only increases their value. Not only can plants be an investment but they can also appreciate in value over time, earning interest.

Nuts and fruit from trees can be sold on amazon for profit. Prices are skyrocketing at the moment. I have seen lychee fruit selling on amazon for $17 a pound. It is higher priced per unit than almonds.

If food shortages hit. The value of plants, fruits, nuts and trees could rise dramatically. Which could make it a decent place to invest wealth in planning for future inflation.





This one is ideal for people who have a lot of spaces on the backyard and mostly this is applicable on provinces. But for people who live on cities well I doubt they can start to do this especially they are dealing with cements backyard and also small spaces on their houses.

 But really this is truly good idea to be made since you are not only helping yourself with this also you help other to have food on their plates and might you can contribute to the economy to if you make this as a business.

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This one is ideal for people who have a lot of spaces on the backyard and mostly this is applicable on provinces. But for people who live on cities well I doubt they can start to do this especially they are dealing with cements backyard and also small spaces on their houses.

 But really this is truly good idea to be made since you are not only helping yourself with this also you help other to have food on their plates and might you can contribute to the economy to if you make this as a business.
If you make connection with the nature - it teaches you patience and consistency.  I learnt it hard way, i was always in hurry and running around. By the time I started gardening. My mood and moral changed - btw it is not an easy task. You have to be very consistent and patients if you want to run a home based nursery.

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