wwzsocki/ A big scammer

[mr_ROBOTT]

What happened:: I have a big problem with https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=131333
Please help me to prove that this person is a liar
A few months ago I received a message from wwzsocki and he told me he needed a writer. We worked for a while and he paid my salary on time!
~2 months ago, I prepared more than 100 articles for wwzsocki and he said after you deliver these 100 articles, you will receive $ 800!
But I received money for some of these articles, weekly.
I texted him a few days ago and asked for the rest of my money, $ 550
But he only paid me $ 400 and removed me from all groups and he told me I will not give you the rest of your money because of the low quality of your articles!

I contacted him several times but he blocked me and even threatened me that "I will red trust you and make special topic against you, just to let you know I am DT1 here"

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=131333

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=131333
Amount Scammed: ~ $150
Proof: https://fastupload.io/LIaBaEZebM9CiGn

PM/Chat Logs: He deleted all
Additional Notes: Please do not work with him! He is a scammer and will not give you money.

PS: He also threatened me that "your alts will be on fire too

F_Societys "

I know this myself, I don't think you have seen this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5315396.msg56293116#msg56293116

[bittraffic]

This is how you write an accusation, its pinned in this forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0

What happened::

Scammers Profile Link:

Reference Link:
Amount Scammed:
Payment Method:
Proof of Payment:
PM/Chat Logs:
Additional Notes:

No one can help you  prove it but you since you are the ones he talked and deal with. Providing proof is important. If you can't provide it then forget about it.

But we can see wwzsocki already tagged you which you are the one who scammed him. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2861357

[Despairo]

I was once work with him about translations when I'm still a newbie, honestly I thought he's a scammer since he ask me to continue on telegram (telegram is full of scammer) but nope, he paid all of my translations on time based on our previous agreement, he's very professional and not a liar/scammer. Based on their trust feedback, there are many users already work with him and no have any problem.

Based on your story, you said you're got kicked in every telegram groups.

But based on the negative tag left by him, you're the one who leave all the telegram groups.

scammer/thief - literally stole 400$ from me, I send mistakenly too much to his address and he never sent it back as promised, despite we worked together for long time and I always paid him on time as agreed, multiple times. I even offered him to keep that money and work it back slowly of course h disappeared from Telegram and thought I wont find him here. scammer that is not worth your trust or deserve a single $ from this forum, avoid him and his services, I also had many problems with bad quality of his work during our cooperation.

I believe there must be a problem or misunderstanding about this case, it's either you or him are the liar, I will reach @wwzsocki ASAP.

[mr_ROBOTT]

This is how you write an accusation, its pinned in this forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0

What happened::

Scammers Profile Link:

Reference Link:
Amount Scammed:
Payment Method:
Proof of Payment:
PM/Chat Logs:
Additional Notes:

No one can help you  prove it but you since you are the ones he talked and deal with. Providing proof is important. If you can't provide it then forget about it.

But we can see wwzsocki already tagged you which you are the one who scammed him. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2861357

Thank you. Also, I have a complete backup of all of the articles I have prepared for him!
Where can I upload it for everyone to see?

[mr_ROBOTT]

I was once work with him about translations when I'm still a newbie, honestly I thought he's a scammer since he ask me to continue on telegram (telegram is full of scammer) but nope, he paid all of my translations on time based on our previous agreement, he's very professional and not a liar/scammer. Based on their trust feedback, there are many users already work with him and no have any problem.

Based on your story, you said you're got kicked in every telegram groups.

But based on the negative tag left by him, you're the one who leave all the telegram groups.

scammer/thief - literally stole 400$ from me, I send mistakenly too much to his address and he never sent it back as promised, despite we worked together for long time and I always paid him on time as agreed, multiple times. I even offered him to keep that money and work it back slowly of course h disappeared from Telegram and thought I wont find him here. scammer that is not worth your trust or deserve a single $ from this forum, avoid him and his services, I also had many problems with bad quality of his work during our cooperation.

I believe there must be a problem or misunderstanding about this case, it's either you or him are the liar, I will reach @wwzsocki ASAP.

Yes, he will use his power against me!
I know the story of his telegram channels!
Also, do you think a DT member sends money to someone by mistake?
It's like the story of a 5-year-old child.

[Despairo]

Yes, he will use his power against me!
I know the story of his telegram channels!
Also, do you think a DT member sends money to someone by mistake?
It's like the story of a 5-year-old child.

If you're the one who correct in this accusation, then you don't need to worry even he's a DT2 or DT1 since any DT can easily tag and excluded him from trust list since he's a scammer.

I don't like a fake story, moreover in your accusation you can't provide any proof that you got kicked in every telegram groups. I don't think the translation contents are enough proof since you can use any contents that not asked by @wwzsocki

Anyone including @theymos can sends money by mistake.

In this situation it turned out we had two dummies: owlgames sent the BTC incorrectly to the forum, and then yesterday I sent his refund to the wrong address.

[mr_ROBOTT]

Yes, he will use his power against me!
I know the story of his telegram channels!
Also, do you think a DT member sends money to someone by mistake?
It's like the story of a 5-year-old child.

If you're the one who correct in this accusation, then you don't need to worry even he's a DT2 or DT1 since any DT can easily tag and excluded him from trust list since he's a scammer.

I don't like a fake story, moreover in your accusation you can't provide any proof that you got kicked in every telegram groups. I don't think the translation contents are enough proof since you can use any contents that not asked by @wwzsocki

Anyone including @theymos can sends money by mistake.

In this situation it turned out we had two dummies: owlgames sent the BTC incorrectly to the forum, and then yesterday I sent his refund to the wrong address.

Yes mate, I can ignore $ 150! But this is not fair if someone uses his DT power against me, and I hope I can prove it.
Also, my proofs are a complete file, like this. But I do not know how to publish it:

[noorman0]

Waiting until @wwzsocki responds to this accusation, I'm just curious about your feedback because he tagged you with the opposite accusation first. Did you provide a permanent address to receive a salary from him? Thought it would be interesting to check too.

Also, did he talk about salary levels according to quality of work before you guys agreed?

[mr_ROBOTT]

Waiting until @wwzsocki responds to this accusation, I'm just curious about your feedback because he tagged you with the opposite accusation first. Did you provide a permanent address to receive a salary from him? Thought it would be interesting to check too.

Also, did he talk about salary levels according to quality of work before you guys agreed?

Yes, I texted him last night with another Telegram account. He threatened me and this morning I saw that I had received a red trust and several other threatening messages.

Yes, I think I always received my salary from one address.
$ 20, $ 10 and ...
But after a while, we did not have any new projects!
After a while, he texted me again and we agreed on $ 800. I have prepared all these articles in one file to show you guys. This is my only proof!

[Pmalek]

No one can check those articles because you haven't posted them anywhere. There is only a screenshot of folders in one of your posts. Why don't you upload them to Google Drive and set the visibility to public for anyone that has the links to them. After that, you could share the link in OP. Unfortunately, making them public can also result in your work being stolen, so you have to be aware of that.

If wwzsocki claims that your articles were of low quality, that's a subjective call, and that's his opinion. If he expected something better, you might want to discuss it with him to see what can be improved. Assuming, of course, that everything you said is true. 

[wwzsocki]

No one can check those articles because you haven't posted them anywhere. There is only a screenshot of folders in one of your posts. Why don't you upload them to Google Drive and set the visibility to public for anyone that has the links to them. After that, you could share the link in OP. Unfortunately, making them public can also result in your work being stolen, so you have to be aware of that.

If wwzsocki claims that your articles were of low quality, that's a subjective call, and that's his opinion. If he expected something better, you might want to discuss it with him to see what can be improved. Assuming, of course, that everything you said is true.  

this is all BS what he said. don't believe it at all, that has nothing to do with the truth

case is simple I paid too much and he never sent it back

I will be happy to invite one of our DT to group where he worked for us and where we talked (where I am admin and he can't delete anything) and there you will see how we have spoken and what happened after his last article, that he removed himself from group and said at end "enjoy" to the last article - like a total scammer, because he promised to send it back

I don't think there is any other way to prove it, of course the payments, I have them all

To explain his story - is of course total BS, we worked on per article basis, soon I will provide his addy to DT1 member that will be able to check everything, that I paid him per article from start.

[mr_ROBOTT]

This is funny after you blocked me, I also blocked you and you sent a message immediately
Why don't you show personal messages?
We made all our agreements in a private message and you deleted them all.
Your documents are our only messages in the group
Enjoy it! Yeah, that's my simple joke with max.
He was worried about the article and I told him not to worry and it would be ready in a few hours
After that, I published the article in the group and said, enjoy it!

[wwzsocki]

snip this scammy shit

PM/Chat Logs: He deleted all

- is of course total BS as everything else, as you see above I have all our conversations, is clear he don't have anything because removed it all LOL

I even don't discuss

our agreement

that he lied about and also screened above the truth so...



let's wait for BTT members to judge - you fucking liar

show me one proof - you are total scammer - end of story

I teach you how to write, you should say thank you, given you work and paid on time always (with many bonuses - when you finally did something good)

You are the worst kind of people - you bite the hand that feed you and you are perfidious enough to lie openly here - one word is needed to describe you - scammer

[mr_ROBOTT]

Fucking liar

Thank you?
LOL
I wrote thousands of words for you and you accuse me a scammer! you should say thank you
You are a scammer because you did not pay the rest of my money because of the quality
A scammer is someone who does not deliver any articles to you and steals your money
thank God! I have a complete archive of articles that I have sent to you and I use them against you

[wwzsocki]

snip this lying scammer

As you all know, this is not pleasant for me to talk with this scammer

please Bitcointalk members let me know what you think and how to deal with it further?

If there is something you want me to answer/provide - of course I am here for you

...I will reach @wwzsocki ASAP.

thank you mate for letting me know and your kind words

[mr_ROBOTT]

Bitcointalk members know what a liar is like!
You are not the one to send money to another address by mistake!
This is all your fu**ing plan and I hope Bitcointalk members judge fairly.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

mr_ROBOTT how are we supposed to believe you if you haven't sent any proof in form of screenshots, chat logs like wwzsocki did?

In such scenario of a dispute, you need to do you best to provide evidence that the person you are accusing is a scammer or did not do what you had agreed upon, otherwise no one will believe you.

[Carollzinha]

As many of you know, I do work with Primedice & Stake, not only the Bitcointalk campaign but I do manage their translators team.

@wwzsocki (a.k.a emoneyabc) and I have had a kinda a partnership for quite a long time now. Every time we need someone elses help with new languages or even languages which we already have (but we need people with higher level of knowledge), we always message each other and its been like this for over a year now. Some of my guys even provided him larger articles translations and always received their payments on time. I really never had a single report from their side about missing or delayed payments.

I know I dont use to post much on forum nowadays but when I see good people being blamed like that, I cant sit and just see how things gonna end.

With that said, I am sorry but I dont believe in a single word of what is being said in this scam accusation.



Regards,
Carollzinha

[wwzsocki]

...With that said, I am sorry but I dont believe in a single word of what is being said in this scam accusation.
Regards,
Carollzinha

thank you Carollzinha for your kind words, really appreciate it.

[mr_ROBOTT]

As I said, my only proof is the thousands of articles I have created for this person!
As you can see, he always had a problem with the quality of my articles and that is why he did not give me $ 150
I even created a design job for him and he paid on time