wwzsocki/ A big scammer

[mr_ROBOTT]

Here you can see that proof said that we did not have any new projects in the main group!



What does that mean?
mean, I sent all the articles and work to you and MAX in a private message, and you deleted them all.
Do you deny this?

[wwzsocki]

snip - scammer talk

normally I would say F... Y.. already at start

but we are on forum, so I felt committed to answer, if community has some questions - I am here for you

In my opinion such fake accusation should be not left alone also?


another work group he left - wasn't removed as he said from start (now it changed when called out)

[Xylber]

I don't know mr_ROBOTT nor what happened here, so I can't say who is right.

But I can say I worked with wwzsocki in some big projects, some with figures of more than 6 grands (check my "Trust" a year ago), and he sent me the money as he promised. To be realistic, I wouldn't believe he needs to scam 150usd knowing he is working with such serious projects.

[mr_ROBOTT]

I don't know mr_ROBOTT nor what happened here, so I can't say who is right.

But I can say I worked with wwzsocki in some big projects, some with figures of more than 6 grands (check my "Trust" a year ago), and he sent me the money as he promised. To be realistic, I wouldn't believe he needs to scam 150usd knowing he is working with such serious projects.

thank you mate. I also worked with this scammer for about a year and received my salary on time!
But he recently told me that the quality of my articles is low. I did my best to prepare the best articles for this person.
But after sending the last one article, he told me that you would receive $ 400 (because of the low quality). I got into an argument with him and he blocked me and threatened that I would use my power against you in the forum.
It's also a big map
During this time, this person and max never sent me a message at the same time! They had been planning from the beginning

[wwzsocki]

... I also worked with this scammer for about a year and received my salary on time!...

I pay on time always and after I left him red trust yesterday for scamming me, he came out today with this shit - simple story.

I will end here, I assume. My Negative Trust against him will stay there to warn others, not much more I can do - avoid this scammer - my advice.

... I worked with wwzsocki in some big projects, some with figures of more than 6 grands (check my "Trust" a year ago), and he sent me the money as he promised...

thx mate

[mr_ROBOTT]

I hope the BItcointalk community makes the best decision about a scam guy like you.
You all need to know that this person will not act on his own agreements and will use any excuse to reduce your salary!
This scammer does not deserve for a $ 1 partnership

[wwzsocki]

I hope the BItcointalk community makes the best decision about a scam guy like you...

Of course they are, nobody cares about your lies as you see and I only hope this thread will drag attention of few DT1 members and they will red trust you also for this fake accusation.

You are the worst type of scammer, not only baiting hand that feed you but also gone so far to open fake accusation with totally no proof,
when called out many times changed story like all scammers do.

edit
just checking him and I found more examples of his lies/wrongdoing on forum:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5315396.msg56292866#msg56292866
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg55263911#msg55263911

[khaled0111]

The burden of proof lies on the accuser and as far as I can see mr_ROBOTT (the accuser in this case) didn't provide any evidence to support his claims besides a screenshot of what is supposed to be articles he wrote months ago!
mr_ROBOTT, if wwzsocki's intention was to scam you then why did he send you $400? Scammers do not do that, they will just block you and take all the money.
Also, according to the screenshots, your last conversation with wwzsocki was on the 7th of May (>10 days ago) so why did you start this scam accusation only now, only after he found out you have an account on bitcointalk and red tagged it?

[wwzsocki]

The burden of proof lies on the accuser and as far as I can see mr_ROBOTT (the accuser in this case) didn't provide any evidence to support his claims...

I have proof he is lying!

he told I removed him from groups, as you can see is a lie, he left them

this is him



@mitra7956

first work group he left





another group from ours that he left, wasn't removed,

additionally this is the UniqueDex group he wrote article for

[mr_ROBOTT]

F off

Are you okay?
I have personally and repeatedly said that I did not write an article for UniqueDex.
only Twitter post + design
After that, I received the money and max told me to leave the group
You do not know what a lie you are telling!

PS: Also, I have not provided anything for magpie!
Why do not you show all the screenshots of this group?
Just when I said, "I can not go on!"

You are a complete liar, I have shown a lot of evidence against you and I will never remove this red trust from your scam account. I recommend you show the groups I left 10 years ago to everyone!
Maybe you find a chance to deceive this forum.

[mr_ROBOTT]

The burden of proof lies on the accuser and as far as I can see mr_ROBOTT (the accuser in this case) didn't provide any evidence to support his claims besides a screenshot of what is supposed to be articles he wrote months ago!
mr_ROBOTT, if wwzsocki's intention was to scam you then why did he send you $400? Scammers do not do that, they will just block you and take all the money.
Also, according to the screenshots, your last conversation with wwzsocki was on the 7th of May (>10 days ago) so why did you start this scam accusation only now, only after he found out you have an account on bitcointalk and red tagged it?

I was not online during this time! (You can check)
He texted me with an account and threatened me.
I then logged into my Bitcointalk account and saw that he had sent me several messages.
I immediately realized that I would not take the rest of my money and I created a thread against this scammer.

[dkbit98]

He made up his story like this and now blockchain transactions won't prove anything here

Than why is it so hard for you to show everyone blockchain transaction how you sent him more money than you wanted, by mistake as you say.
I am not taking anyone side here and I am neutral, but both of you didn't show a single transaction proof, just bunch of telegram chat screenshots, that doesn't mean much to me and they can be easily faked.

[wwzsocki]

Than why is it so hard for you to show everyone blockchain transaction how you sent him more money than you wanted, by mistake as you say.

because

The burden of proof lies on the accuser and as far as I can see mr_ROBOTT (the accuser in this case) didn't provide any evidence to support his claims

and it will proof nothing

if all I have written above and multiple comments from many members are not enough for you to see who is who in this case, then for sure this transaction won't change it, why should it?

he admitted I paid, so why you need to see it?

I don't want to share it in open - that's it, have you seen what I have written above?

if some trusted DT1 member asks, I will be happy to share it

edit
I just checked and see that you are DT1 @dkbit98 please check DM with TX

as you can see the amount I sent is 426$ so even his (fake) accusation that I sent only 400 and need to pay additional 150 is just another lie

[LoyceV]

PM/Chat Logs: He deleted all

Of course he removed our talks on TG but I am sure have enough info to prove my words

Not this again
How many more times are people going to fall for this? Telegram is a paradise for scammers, as it allows to remove all evidence from the other party. Use Bitcointalk PM for trade deals, or a public topic, or even CC LoyceVs PM publisher for evidence. You can use any messenger you want, but at least make sure the details of the trade including payment addresses are recorded somewhere.
None of this helps you now, but it makes things so much easier in the future.

That being said: now there's a bunch of screenshots and a bunch of accusations in both directions. It's really difficult to know for sure what's true now. My gut feeling gives me a pretty good idea, but I don't like the lack of hard evidence in cases like this.

As I said, my only proof is the thousands of articles I have created for this person!

This sounds like something you should be able to prove. Can you share 2000 of your articles?

[noorman0]

This confuses me even more since many telegram account names are shown in the screenshot. The only verifiable proof is the payment tx as I asked before,

Did you provide a permanent address to receive a salary from him? Thought it would be interesting to check too.

and it can probably be matched with the SS of article folders created by mr_ROBOTT (though that's not very strong). But letting this case drag on without any concrete evidence will give mr_ROBOTT time to prepare even 1000 articles that can be claimed.

[wwzsocki]

This confuses me even more since many telegram account names are shown in the screenshot. The only verifiable proof is the payment tx as I asked before...

you are DT1 @dkbit98 please check DM with TX

as you can see the amount I sent is 426$ so even his (fake) accusation that I sent only 400 and need to pay additional 150 is just another lie

DT1 member already got the transaction details, from what I see he is trusted in this board as investigator, as always I kept my word.

PS
I don't think this transaction will change anything and slowly have enough defending myself against this fake accusation without single proof!

I have called out his lies multiple times, so if this is not enough and if my trust against his also says nothing - then nothing will.

[mr_ROBOTT]

He made up his story like this and now blockchain transactions won't prove anything here

Than why is it so hard for you to show everyone blockchain transaction how you sent him more money than you wanted, by mistake as you say.
I am not taking anyone side here and I am neutral, but both of you didn't show a single transaction proof, just bunch of telegram chat screenshots, that doesn't mean much to me and they can be easily faked.

He thinks that with a fake story he can deceive everyone here.
If he says he pays you $ 10 for each article.
Rest assured, he will pay you $ 5 after delivering the article!
Isn't this a scam?


I request that the bitcointalk community remove the red trust of this scammer from my account, I have presented a lot of proof against this person and his story is like a stupid joke.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Just seeing the nickname mr_ROBOTT, I immediately take the opposite side. People do not change. In the history of his reputation, there are a lot of things where he was caught in a lie. There was a lot of plagiarism, there was the impersonation of a person, a native speaker, which he is not, and re-submission from an alternative account of drawings in a company run by Hhampuz
I just wonder how you can even work with this person and trust him. It is completely riddled with lies, and this has been proven time and again.
People do not change. Having lied once, such a person will do it again and again. It's bad that you do not trust the reviews left by people who have previously encountered such a liar.

[mr_ROBOTT]

First of all, all the people who support you here, you have bribed them in your group to leave a message of support for you here.
Secondly! That's $ 26 for the UniqueDex project design and Twitter posts!
Do not you remember that, liar?

This sounds like something you should be able to prove. Can you share 2000 of your articles?

Yes, why not?
How can I share them?
Where?
I asked you to help me publish these articles from the beginning

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[wwzsocki]

...It's bad that you do not trust the reviews left by people who have previously encountered such a liar.

when he scammed me I started to search and found out he is on Bitcointalk

this is why I immediately red trusted him

we work on Telegram mainly and with many people, you just can't check everybody

...people who support you here, you have bribed them in your group to leave a message of support for you here...

this scammer makes me speechless

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