Are we expecting another invasion??

[Majestic-milf]

 Russia's invasion of Ukraine since February has somehow resurrected some buried grudges between some countries as news circulating the world has it of China's plan to infiltrate Taiwanese military defense with the hopes of claiming it.
 Taiwan, a small island nation in coast of mainland China in East Asia, sharing borders with the Philippines and Japan, on a normal day are a city of lawyers, software engineers and blacksmiths, but then, the imminent threat of China to invade their city has had them changing course; men are now engaging in military training to enable them prepare for a possible attack by China.
 Has Russia succeded in encouraging other nations who have high military might to feel they can up and invade another sovereign nation whenever the urge arises?? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34729538

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[StanCrypt]

Has Russia succeded in encouraging other nations who have high military might to feel they can up and invade another sovereign nation whenever the urge arises?? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34729538

I woundn't be too fast to feel they've succeded in doing anything, rather they have only shown to the wolrld how much of a bad idea it is in our modern time to invade a sovereign nation, especially nation which has ties with the US. with regards to the Taiwan China conflict, the president of the United States has already made it expressly clear that if chaina should attempt to go against taiwan, the United States wouldn't just fold its hands and watch that happen.

[Majestic-milf]

Has Russia succeded in encouraging other nations who have high military might to feel they can up and invade another sovereign nation whenever the urge arises?? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34729538

I woundn't be too fast to feel they've succeded in doing anything, rather they have only shown to the wolrld how much of a bad idea it is in our modern time to invade a sovereign nation, especially nation which has ties with the US. with regards to the Taiwan China conflict, the president of the United States has already made it expressly clear that if chaina should attempt to go against taiwan, the United States wouldn't just fold its hands and watch that happen.

In as much as Biden has assured Taiwanese nationals of his support, will there be much he can do if China decides to take things serious? I know, presently they are ranked number one in terms of military strength, But if they can help Taiwan who have not been attacked, why not help Ukraine win the war.

[lumbanrang]

I think that China is not that stupid to attack Taiwan. Although Taiwan and mainland China have not been on good terms for a long time, that does not make China an excuse to attack Taiwan totally with their military. Because Taiwan's position is very strategic for global supply chains and especially for mainland China itself. As long as America continues to honor the 1979 treaty, I think that China-Taiwan relations will continue as they should.

[dataispower]

I think that China is not that stupid to attack Taiwan. Although Taiwan and mainland China have not been on good terms for a long time, that does not make China an excuse to attack Taiwan totally with their military. Because Taiwan's position is very strategic for global supply chains and especially for mainland China itself. As long as America continues to honor the 1979 treaty, I think that China-Taiwan relations will continue as they should.

This will escalate to many countries with time. Because Ukraine and Russia war is like open eye to other countries who feels that they are stronger and superior than another country. China is not suppose to attack any country for war when their already war which is not yet not stop, even though Taiwan is not in good relationship with China long time, that should not suppose to make china to raise alarm of attack, that means any country that have old dispute with another country will have it in mind and when two countries is having issues they will use the same opportunity to bring up their own fight.  These, is supposed to put into plenary of world observers

[Cnut237]

Russia's invasion of Ukraine since February has somehow resurrected some buried grudges between some countries as news circulating the world has it of China's plan to infiltrate Taiwanese military defense with the hopes of claiming it.

I'm sure that initially, China was looking on with interest to see what the global reaction would be if Putin managed a very quick and relatively clean and bloodless takeover of Ukraine. They could then view this as a dry run of their own takeover of Taiwan. But obviously it didn't pan out that way, Russia made a disastrous blood-soaked bungling mess of their invasion, drawing global condemnation and achieving the status of international pariah.

Who knows how China views this? It's probably not going to encourage them, though.

[franky1]

invasions will happen again and again.
this is because invasions are not a 'war crime'

the reason Putin has not been arrested for a war crime due to invasions is simple.
imagine if it was made a war crime back in the 1940's to invade a country.. this would have then made it a war crime for the U.S/UK to invade asia in the 1950-1970's, the middle east in the 1980-2010

the U.S want to be able to invade countries without causing a 'war crime' so that they can continue with their economic plans via invasions. so invasions will continue to happen because the U.S, UK want to be able to invade

they will never make invasions a war crime. as that then makes their own tactics a war crime.
the only way to get putin arrested for war crime is by linking him to these 3 crimes:
chemical weapons. nuclear weapons. genocide

terrorism is not a war crime. its how the US has never been stopped when it terrorises asia/middle east in the last century.
an individual can be arrested for terrorism. without it impacting a whole country. where the president/leader of the country is not the guilty party. just the soldier/citizen performing the act is.

many things that should be crimes are not crimes, simply because US/UK want to be able to perform them without any backlash legally.
EG hacking a government agency is not a war crime. because the US UK want to be able to spy on its enemies.
EG detaining population without a trial is not a war crime. if it was then although china then couldnt detain the uyghur's.. the US wouldnt be able to detain the mexican/south americans, UK couldnt then detain immigrants

[Gyfts]

Most people don't realize why Taiwan is more important to the U.S. than Ukraine was. See the immense chip production Taiwan is responsible for: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/26/us/politics/computer-chip-shortage-taiwan.html

You can't expect moral superiority with China. They're brazen enough to keep modern concentration camps against millions of muslims so their aspirations and intentions for Taiwan certainly seem in line with reality. Meaning -- a military invasion is plausible. If China wanted to take a lesson from Russia, it would be that a lackluster international response should be expected.

lawyers, software engineers and blacksmiths, but then, the imminent threat of China to invade their city has had them changing course; men are now engaging in military training to enable them prepare for a possible attack by China.

Taiwan doesn't seem like a formidable opponent for China, wouldn't you agree? Do the lawyers and software engineers turned military infantrymen stand a chance against the Chinese army?

They will get slaughtered absent of U.S. intervention.

[be.open]

Russia's invasion of Ukraine since February has somehow resurrected some buried grudges between some countries as news circulating the world has it of China's plan to infiltrate Taiwanese military defense with the hopes of claiming it.
 Taiwan, a small island nation in coast of mainland China in East Asia, sharing borders with the Philippines and Japan, on a normal day are a city of lawyers, software engineers and blacksmiths, but then, the imminent threat of China to invade their city has had them changing course; men are now engaging in military training to enable them prepare for a possible attack by China.
 Has Russia succeded in encouraging other nations who have high military might to feel they can up and invade another sovereign nation whenever the urge arises?? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34729538

I think a Chinese military invasion of Taiwan is very likely in a 2-3 year time frame, five years at the most. It is extremely unlikely that China will decide on this before the end of the Russian special operation, so now Taiwan can sleep peacefully. It is extremely unlikely that the United States will interfere directly in what is happening, because then they will have to deal not only with China, but also with Russia. The recent joint air patrol of Russian and Chinese strategic bombers in the South Asian region sent a clear message to the US and NATO. In Taiwan, China will do everything itself, but Russia will cover it.

[Maestro75]

Russia's invasion of Ukraine since February

It seems like it was only last month since the Russia - Ukraine war started. So, this is third month. That means killings and mass murder of people has been on for three months now. This is crazy. Innocent people are dying every day on the battle field, yet both Putin and his rival are still not ready to end the war. This world is not a place to expect peace all the time. It is for on one problem to another. If China or any other country should perish that thought of evading any weaker country. Those countries invaded or being invaded have not known piece till date. Russia underestimated Ukraine. But today there are struggling with what decision of attacking Ukraine. China should watch it.

[Ultegra134]

Russia's invasion of Ukraine since February

It seems like it was only last month since the Russia - Ukraine war started. So, this is third month. That means killings and mass murder of people has been on for three months now. This is crazy. Innocent people are dying every day on the battle field, yet both Putin and his rival are still not ready to end the war. This world is not a place to expect peace all the time. It is for on one problem to another. If China or any other country should perish that thought of evading any weaker country. Those countries invaded or being invaded have not known piece till date. Russia underestimated Ukraine. But today there are struggling with what decision of attacking Ukraine. China should watch it.

I never expected it to last that long to be honest, while it doesn't look like it's going to end anytime soon. Rumors mention that it's likely to continue till the end of the year, which would be disastrous for both Ukraine and the whole world.

Regarding China now, I find it hard to believe that they'd initiate an attack against Taiwan, it would disrupt the global supply chain once again and it's not something China would  strive for.

[CryptocurencyKing]

Much are at stake here, with the independence of the Taiwanese people not very clear, a likely Taiwan Invasion is possible but not all too soon. The Chinese economy is still in a recovery phase after the pandemic, coupled with the decrease in labour force and restrictions still in place in some places.

Taiwanese companies have some worth and effective trade rations with China and as such, an invasion at the moment is bound to disrupt a lot that ought to be preserved but, you can be rest assured that an invasion is almost inevitable.

Russia pushes for a dream of the formal USSR even partially while, China realises that, they could claim there refered break way province if they need to with an invasion and they've got only the US to contend with and now, Russia could be a very useful ally in this.

[merchantofzeny]

Hard to predict when China would actually pull through with it but it's inevitable that it would attack. It would not allow Taiwan to remain free. I do saw some vids that for reasons, China have to do this within this decade.

Most people don't realize why Taiwan is more important to the U.S. than Ukraine was. See the immense chip production Taiwan is responsible for: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/26/us/politics/computer-chip-shortage-taiwan.html

Even without the chip monopoly I doubt the US would take lightly the "reunification" of Taiwan with China. It basically allows China power projection into the Pacific and would compromise US positions there. From hereon nothing stands in the way into America.

Ukraine in NATO on the other hand is just something that would be nice to pester Russia with but something the guys in Washington wouldn't lose sleep over.

[Gyfts]

Hard to predict when China would actually pull through with it but it's inevitable that it would attack. It would not allow Taiwan to remain free. I do saw some vids that for reasons, China have to do this within this decade.

Most people don't realize why Taiwan is more important to the U.S. than Ukraine was. See the immense chip production Taiwan is responsible for: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/26/us/politics/computer-chip-shortage-taiwan.html

Even without the chip monopoly I doubt the US would take lightly the "reunification" of Taiwan with China. It basically allows China power projection into the Pacific and would compromise US positions there. From hereon nothing stands in the way into America.

Ukraine in NATO on the other hand is just something that would be nice to pester Russia with but something the guys in Washington wouldn't lose sleep over.

Perhaps. These invasions don't exist in vacuum so it's difficult to gauge what sort of things are actually pertinent in the decision making process for the folks in Washington. If it's money at the end of the tunnel, then that might be a good indicator of immediate action. Hong Kong was taken by China without much push back from the U.S. I wouldn't expect them to get militarily involved, for obvious reasons, but hardly any condemnation. Taiwan isn't a Hong Kong, and Taiwan isn't a Ukraine. It might be an instance of waiting to see what happens because I'm a firm believer that China will make an attempt at Taiwan within the next 10-20 years, if not sooner. We will find out eventually.

[lumbanrang]

I think that China is not that stupid to attack Taiwan. Although Taiwan and mainland China have not been on good terms for a long time, that does not make China an excuse to attack Taiwan totally with their military. Because Taiwan's position is very strategic for global supply chains and especially for mainland China itself. As long as America continues to honor the 1979 treaty, I think that China-Taiwan relations will continue as they should.

This will escalate to many countries with time. Because Ukraine and Russia war is like open eye to other countries who feels that they are stronger and superior than another country. China is not suppose to attack any country for war when their already war which is not yet not stop, even though Taiwan is not in good relationship with China long time, that should not suppose to make china to raise alarm of attack, that means any country that have old dispute with another country will have it in mind and when two countries is having issues they will use the same opportunity to bring up their own fight.  These, is supposed to put into plenary of world observers

It should be underlined that China has learned from their past history that war did not give them anything, instead their country was divided and could not unite. The point of all this is America should not interfere. I think that as long as America does not interfere, relations between the two countries will be fine.

[merchantofzeny]

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Ukraine in NATO on the other hand is just something that would be nice to pester Russia with but something the guys in Washington wouldn't lose sleep over.

Perhaps. These invasions don't exist in vacuum so it's difficult to gauge what sort of things are actually pertinent in the decision making process for the folks in Washington. If it's money at the end of the tunnel, then that might be a good indicator of immediate action. Hong Kong was taken by China without much push back from the U.S. I wouldn't expect them to get militarily involved, for obvious reasons, but hardly any condemnation. Taiwan isn't a Hong Kong, and Taiwan isn't a Ukraine. It might be an instance of waiting to see what happens because I'm a firm believer that China will make an attempt at Taiwan within the next 10-20 years, if not sooner. We will find out eventually.

With HK there was really nothing they can do, it was already turned over and it's inevitable that Beijing will tighten its hold. As for Taiwan, yes China likely to invade within that time period, before it starts really slowing down due to demographics, etc.

[TheNineClub]

Russia's invasion of Ukraine since February has somehow resurrected some buried grudges between some countries as news circulating the world has it of China's plan to infiltrate Taiwanese military defense with the hopes of claiming it.
 Taiwan, a small island nation in coast of mainland China in East Asia, sharing borders with the Philippines and Japan, on a normal day are a city of lawyers, software engineers and blacksmiths, but then, the imminent threat of China to invade their city has had them changing course; men are now engaging in military training to enable them prepare for a possible attack by China.
 Has Russia succeded in encouraging other nations who have high military might to feel they can up and invade another sovereign nation whenever the urge arises?? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34729538

What the invasion of Ukraine is, it's a chance for the Chinese to learn on others mistakes. They niw see the outrage invasions cause and the sanctions they bring, and also how a percived military might can be quickly burried into the ground. I honestly think thta China has nothing to gain with a war.

[tsaroz]

China is certainly learning. China wants to keep trading with both Russia and the west. And Taiwan is the ultimate card for China if the west used further economic restrictions on it.
China is more objective about its economy and would calculate the pros and cons on invading Taiwan. They would certainly do invade when they believe they have nothing much to lose if west embargoes them economically.

[Zlantann]

Another invasion would destroy the world economy. There will be hyperinflation and many vulnerable economies would crumble. Europe and the US wouldn't be able to fund another war comfortably. Although I recently read how the US President boasted that they would attack China if they invade Taiwan. But Washington and Pentagon understands consequences of such actions, that was why they downplayed Biden's comments. I don't also expect China to invade Taiwan because the response of NATO and US might be different from the cautious approach they have maintained in the Russian invasion of Ukraine. 

[be.open]

Another invasion would destroy the world economy. There will be hyperinflation and many vulnerable economies would crumble. Europe and the US wouldn't be able to fund another war comfortably. Although I recently read how the US President boasted that they would attack China if they invade Taiwan. But Washington and Pentagon understands consequences of such actions, that was why they downplayed Biden's comments. I don't also expect China to invade Taiwan because the response of NATO and US might be different from the cautious approach they have maintained in the Russian invasion of Ukraine. 

China needs more than just Taiwan, China needs Taiwan with little or no bloodshed. If you make a second Mariupol there and destroy the TSMC, victory will not bring adequate satisfaction to China.