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June 08, 2022, 05:43:06 PM
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Can an old casino that's very active here in Bitcointalk, through support, forum advertising, and signature campaign, suddenly pull the plug and stop doing all these things can still keep and still maintain its position in the market.

I think yes, an old casino which has been very active here on the forum should have a large number of regular customers. All these older customers will not disappear just because the casino is cutting down on its advertising. The only change I would expect to see is a dropping number of new customers to join the casino. I think when it comes to advertising budgets the casinos can run a case study to see how many new customers they get per week with various advertising channels. In the end it's a cost/benefit analysis to see if it's really worth it. Let's say the casino notices that 80% of their revenues from existing gamblers and most of the new gamblers leave the casino after a few weeks. Then it could much better for the casino to run promotions directly for the older customers. Instead of paying for advertising they could make weekly giveaways for regular customers.
I think from a business perspective it is better to think about gaining new customers and retaining old customers as completely different things even if at the end we are still talking about customers, and the reason for this is that you cannot really disregard either of them, as you cannot concentrate exclusively on getting new clients as then old customers will feel unappreciated and will leave the casino, while you cannot give old customers all the bonuses either as then new customers do not really see the reason to join a new casino at all.
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June 08, 2022, 06:05:38 PM
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Can an old casino that's very active here in Bitcointalk, through support, forum advertising, and signature campaign, suddenly pull the plug and stop doing all these things can still keep and still maintain its position in the market.
I believe yes, as long as they have a good record and great reputation then they could still maintain its position in the market but we shouldn't disregard the fact that they are a continuous number of players who are entering the gambling world each day and most of them rely on on the advertisements that they see on this forum. Having an advertisement is still an advantage not unless they prioritize and they're contented with their old players.
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June 10, 2022, 02:04:00 PM
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Can an old casino that's very active here in Bitcointalk, through support, forum advertising, and signature campaign, suddenly pull the plug and stop doing all these things can still keep and still maintain its position in the market.
I believe yes, as long as they have a good record and great reputation then they could still maintain its position in the market but we shouldn't disregard the fact that they are a continuous number of players who are entering the gambling world each day and most of them rely on on the advertisements that they see on this forum. Having an advertisement is still an advantage not unless they prioritize and they're contented with their old players.

Word of the mouth and referral campaigns can keep an old casino alive, I have seen casinos that do not have an announcement or promotion here but they are giving good referral commissions and they are still doing fine, in the case of Bitvest and 777Coin as long as there are no existing scam complaints, and they still have players who are active posters, expect the thread to get bumps from time to time unless the moderators decided to lock their announcement here.

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June 10, 2022, 02:31:44 PM
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The answer is yes, if a casino feels it has built a large community and can sustain its revenue with such several players there can choose to end all forms of promotions on this forum, and there will still be fine as long as their services remain uninterrupted.

Bitcointalk is not the only social media that casinos can make promotions there are a lot of casinos out there that are not in this forum, so ultimately the forum is a good point to start from but not the only place to build community and market presence.
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June 10, 2022, 02:38:55 PM
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Yes they can survive even if they don't have any support in this forum since if they can just promote more widely outside and target the large number of crypto users outside which I believe that there are more of them there than this forum. For sure we have many casino which didn't have a thread here but they are doing some nice appealing promotions which can help their business to totally grow more.

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June 10, 2022, 02:59:35 PM
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Of course it can,as long as the casino is trustworthy and have great feature for players.With simple advertising in social media,people will try and experience what the casino has to offer.With their testimony,other people will try it and the old casino doesn't need to do anything except for maintain their reputation.
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June 10, 2022, 03:47:32 PM
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Yes they can survive even if they don't have any support in this forum since if they can just promote more widely outside and target the large number of crypto users outside which I believe that there are more of them there than this forum. For sure we have many casino which didn't have a thread here but they are doing some nice appealing promotions which can help their business to totally grow more.
True, there are many websites out there that they can use to advertise for example etherscan, I often see casinos advertising there and that's just an example, or there are also casinos who prefer to advertise on forums rather than holding signature campaigns which they think may have the same goal.
An example of a casino that has been around for a long time and is no longer doing signature campaigns is Bitsler, Busadice they are still continuing their business.

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June 11, 2022, 12:48:50 PM
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Yes they can survive even if they don't have any support in this forum since if they can just promote more widely outside and target the large number of crypto users outside which I believe that there are more of them there than this forum. For sure we have many casino which didn't have a thread here but they are doing some nice appealing promotions which can help their business to totally grow more.
True, there are many websites out there that they can use to advertise for example etherscan, I often see casinos advertising there and that's just an example, or there are also casinos who prefer to advertise on forums rather than holding signature campaigns which they think may have the same goal.
An example of a casino that has been around for a long time and is no longer doing signature campaigns is Bitsler, Busadice they are still continuing their business.
Without a doubt once a casino reaches a certain size they can decide to not use signature campaigns as a way to promote themselves, however if we take into account how long some of those campaigns have been running and even then many casinos still decide to keep their campaigns running then the only explanation I find for this is that they are obtaining enough benefits out of it to justify to keep the campaign running, something which is not that surprising taking into account how influential this forum really is.
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June 11, 2022, 02:18:00 PM
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Yes they can survive even if they don't have any support in this forum since if they can just promote more widely outside and target the large number of crypto users outside which I believe that there are more of them there than this forum. For sure we have many casino which didn't have a thread here but they are doing some nice appealing promotions which can help their business to totally grow more.
True, there are many websites out there that they can use to advertise for example etherscan, I often see casinos advertising there and that's just an example, or there are also casinos who prefer to advertise on forums rather than holding signature campaigns which they think may have the same goal.
An example of a casino that has been around for a long time and is no longer doing signature campaigns is Bitsler, Busadice they are still continuing their business.
Without a doubt once a casino reaches a certain size they can decide to not use signature campaigns as a way to promote themselves, however if we take into account how long some of those campaigns have been running and even then many casinos still decide to keep their campaigns running then the only explanation I find for this is that they are obtaining enough benefits out of it to justify to keep the campaign running, something which is not that surprising taking into account how influential this forum really is.

They see this forum as a big market, so running a long term signature campaign would benefit them.

Playbetr, betcoin.ag, sportsbet.io, stake.com, all these popular sporstbook have been running signature campaigns for quite a while already.
They are spending thousands of dollars, if it does not benefit them, they should have stoppe a long time ago.

Actually, even Fortunejack, they stopped their long term signature campaign and now they back with another long term one.

 
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June 17, 2022, 10:54:58 PM
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Can an old casino that's very active here in Bitcointalk, through support, forum advertising, and signature campaign, suddenly pull the plug and stop doing all these things can still keep and still maintain its position in the market.

I think yes, an old casino which has been very active here on the forum should have a large number of regular customers. All these older customers will not disappear just because the casino is cutting down on its advertising. The only change I would expect to see is a dropping number of new customers to join the casino. I think when it comes to advertising budgets the casinos can run a case study to see how many new customers they get per week with various advertising channels. In the end it's a cost/benefit analysis to see if it's really worth it. Let's say the casino notices that 80% of their revenues from existing gamblers and most of the new gamblers leave the casino after a few weeks. Then it could much better for the casino to run promotions directly for the older customers. Instead of paying for advertising they could make weekly giveaways for regular customers.
Yes, it is good to do it because they focus on their customers, it is a smart way to be able to maintain a business, however I would not trust myself, there are currently many new betting sites that are coming out and offer great benefits especially to the most active players, so I think that a casino should not only focus on its old players but also on new potential customers, it is always good to be up-to-date, with everything, with support, with its customers, with its non-customers, with new customers, because a lot is handled here amount of money, I think one of the advantages of old players is that withdrawals don't need to be KYC.

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June 17, 2022, 11:44:09 PM
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Yeah can ofcourse, if the casino does a lot of promotions either on in site or via email messages, active gamblers want a bonus and how worth it is. But usually gamblers often forget the old site if there is a new gambling site because of other features and benefits, so apart from attracting new gamblers this signature campaign will remind them too.

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June 17, 2022, 11:50:23 PM
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Can an old casino that's very active here in Bitcointalk, through support, forum advertising, and signature campaign, suddenly pull the plug and stop doing all these things can still keep and still maintain its position in the market.

A case study is Bitvest and 777Coin we know that Lightlord was sick and now he is well and comes back from time to time but not doing the same thing they're doing for many years.



I personally think that a casino can still operate despite no advertisement from this forum but expect it to lose almost half of its player base and traffic.

The beauty about this forum is that almost every forum member (except newbies) wears a signature to their profile. This means that every post equals an advertisement to the thing being advertised, whether it be a mixer, a new coin, a website, or an online casino.

In addition, all of the posts that you made retroacts to the signature that you are wearing. For example, if you used another signature when you created a post years ago but you wore a new signature, your post from that year will be changed according to the present signature that you are wearing. This means that advertisement is the key to maintain a healthy player base and traffic to the website.

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June 17, 2022, 11:57:00 PM
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Yeah can ofcourse, if the casino does a lot of promotions either on in site or via email messages, active gamblers want a bonus and how worth it is. But usually gamblers often forget the old site if there is a new gambling site because of other features and benefits, so apart from attracting new gamblers this signature campaign will remind them too.

Not working idea because people will just ignore spam emails. But since they are already old and still surviving for sure what they do before will be relevant thing for the gambler to stay on their platform because reputation is what most important factor on why people choose to gamble on a casino. If they add up fast withdrawal and active support for sure they can be self sustaining for more longer times.

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June 18, 2022, 05:31:57 AM
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Yeah can ofcourse, if the casino does a lot of promotions either on in site or via email messages, active gamblers want a bonus and how worth it is. But usually gamblers often forget the old site if there is a new gambling site because of other features and benefits, so apart from attracting new gamblers this signature campaign will remind them too.

Not working idea because people will just ignore spam emails. But since they are already old and still surviving for sure what they do before will be relevant thing for the gambler to stay on their platform because reputation is what most important factor on why people choose to gamble on a casino. If they add up fast withdrawal and active support for sure they can be self sustaining for more longer times.

It is part of their promotion or advertisement is here in the forum because tons of users here are with the cryptocurrency gambling and if the gambling casino has a good quality of service, fast and tons of promotions they will get more players and even they are not promoting here is they can still manage to survive and compete with other gambling platforms.

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June 18, 2022, 06:17:26 AM
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Yeah can ofcourse, if the casino does a lot of promotions either on in site or via email messages, active gamblers want a bonus and how worth it is. But usually gamblers often forget the old site if there is a new gambling site because of other features and benefits, so apart from attracting new gamblers this signature campaign will remind them too.

Not working idea because people will just ignore spam emails. But since they are already old and still surviving for sure what they do before will be relevant thing for the gambler to stay on their platform because reputation is what most important factor on why people choose to gamble on a casino. If they add up fast withdrawal and active support for sure they can be self sustaining for more longer times.

I cant fully agree that people will ignore emails from casinos especially from casinos where they do usually play. When I was active gambler, I do care about the email casino although most emails are just related to new contest, updates, or news but sometime there were some email that can be something worth to wait. It is email about free balance, free credit or maybe nice competition (+ev). I will regret if I'm ignoring emails from the casinos I like to play as I may miss some nice opportunity to win something.
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June 18, 2022, 08:40:44 AM
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Can an old casino that's very active here in Bitcointalk, through support, forum advertising, and signature campaign, suddenly pull the plug and stop doing all these things can still keep and still maintain its position in the market.

A case study is Bitvest and 777Coin we know that Lightlord was sick and now he is well and comes back from time to time but not doing the same thing they're doing for many years.




this forum is one of their marketing targets so far, but this is not the only way to create promotions, campaigns or anything like that.  It's true that bitcointalk is the largest community in the crypto industry and that's why they still exist running campaigns.  I don't know the reason why they don't appear active now, or maybe they are planning a new method.  I can't guess what's more I don't have a strong reason or try to find it.

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June 18, 2022, 09:48:21 AM
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Yeah can ofcourse, if the casino does a lot of promotions either on in site or via email messages, active gamblers want a bonus and how worth it is. But usually gamblers often forget the old site if there is a new gambling site because of other features and benefits, so apart from attracting new gamblers this signature campaign will remind them too.

Not working idea because people will just ignore spam emails. But since they are already old and still surviving for sure what they do before will be relevant thing for the gambler to stay on their platform because reputation is what most important factor on why people choose to gamble on a casino. If they add up fast withdrawal and active support for sure they can be self sustaining for more longer times.

I cant fully agree that people will ignore emails from casinos especially from casinos where they do usually play. When I was active gambler, I do care about the email casino although most emails are just related to new contest, updates, or news but sometime there were some email that can be something worth to wait. It is email about free balance, free credit or maybe nice competition (+ev). I will regret if I'm ignoring emails from the casinos I like to play as I may miss some nice opportunity to win something.

I still do read emails coming from gambling platforms. And just like you said, I'm more interested about free spins or anything that you can take advantage of from them. And this is a continuing basis, specially if you have a lot of accounts from old and new casinos. You will received very often this kind of perks just to get you going again and play on their platform. So there are a lot of ways for them to promote, but I guess bitcointalk is the best community to have their name known right away.

 
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June 18, 2022, 10:00:32 AM
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Yeah can ofcourse, if the casino does a lot of promotions either on in site or via email messages, active gamblers want a bonus and how worth it is. But usually gamblers often forget the old site if there is a new gambling site because of other features and benefits, so apart from attracting new gamblers this signature campaign will remind them too.

Not working idea because people will just ignore spam emails. But since they are already old and still surviving for sure what they do before will be relevant thing for the gambler to stay on their platform because reputation is what most important factor on why people choose to gamble on a casino. If they add up fast withdrawal and active support for sure they can be self sustaining for more longer times.

In fact, the prejudice that people ignore spam is far from 100% true. For example, although I don’t like spam, I read notifications from Burger King (sometimes there are interesting coupons), from some online games that I play or played (there are very interesting promotions that bring me back to the game), etc. This works similarly with a casino - if a person is initially interested in something, then he will pay attention to information on this topic.
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In fact, the prejudice that people ignore spam is far from 100% true. For example, although I don’t like spam, I read notifications from Burger King (sometimes there are interesting coupons), from some online games that I play or played (there are very interesting promotions that bring me back to the game), etc. This works similarly with a casino - if a person is initially interested in something, then he will pay attention to information on this topic.
That's not what you called a spam then if the email is informative and legit. Real spam mails are the mails where you didn't even subscribed on and you will wonder how they got your email address? People ignore spams, literally like pressing that ignore/hide button but not ignoring them in a way that they don't care and they can still see it because they can be too annoying and dangerous too if ever they got your attention and you start clicking on them. Sig campaigns are beneficial mostly for new sites but old sites are already registered on the mind of the gamblers so even if they stop the campaign, they can still get visitors.

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June 19, 2022, 09:49:11 PM
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Of course it can,as long as the casino is trustworthy and have great feature for players.With simple advertising in social media,people will try and experience what the casino has to offer.With their testimony,other people will try it and the old casino doesn't need to do anything except for maintain their reputation.
as long as the gambling site has no problems with its service, and is also able to maintain its reputation then I am sure the gambling site will be able to survive even if they do not hold a campaign on this forum. but once this forum should not be underestimated, the reputation of a gambling site will be even better if they are able to maintain its reputation in this forum.
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