thank you for the tips, i looked at that site but its seems useless :
1/you can't add fund you account by any simple way :
the simple way is liberty reserve and its very difficult (and with a lot of fees) to fund liberty reserve from europe
and if i wish to took the time to make a bank wire i will do directly to MTGOX.
2/its seems impossible to withdraw BTC to send them to a BTC adress
its seems its not more easier/confortable to use this site than MTGOX