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June 12, 2022, 01:50:46 PM
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The 1st 2 quarters doesn't matter to both teams as they are good in 3rd quarter and 4th quarter where we can see a real competition.

Agree, the most important is the 3rd and 4th quarter but it has been the Warriors who have dominated the 3rd quarters in the last 4 games, I don't know, I think Celtics has not won a 3rd quarter in the game, they won most 4th quarters only like in game 1. So what I'm saying is, the Warriors have to improve their performance in the 4th quarter as that is the most important.

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June 12, 2022, 02:43:49 PM
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The 1st 2 quarters doesn't matter to both teams as they are good in 3rd quarter and 4th quarter where we can see a real competition.

Agree, the most important is the 3rd and 4th quarter but it has been the Warriors who have dominated the 3rd quarters in the last 4 games, I don't know, I think Celtics has not won a 3rd quarter in the game, they won most 4th quarters only like in game 1. So what I'm saying is, the Warriors have to improve their performance in the 4th quarter as that is the most important.

Can't wait for the next game since they are tied at 2-2, the next game is super crucial because whoever wins has only one more win to go to become NBA champion this season. But you cannot underestimate the Boston Celtic's determination and eagerness to win the championship is the reason why they tied the series. It's better for them to win this upcoming game because it's not their homecourt anymore and they're not actually gonna have an easy game because the GSW will also not let them do the same play as they did in their last 2 wins.
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June 12, 2022, 02:56:59 PM
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The 1st 2 quarters doesn't matter to both teams as they are good in 3rd quarter and 4th quarter where we can see a real competition.

Agree, the most important is the 3rd and 4th quarter but it has been the Warriors who have dominated the 3rd quarters in the last 4 games, I don't know, I think Celtics has not won a 3rd quarter in the game, they won most 4th quarters only like in game 1. So what I'm saying is, the Warriors have to improve their performance in the 4th quarter as that is the most important.

Maybe you mean Boston on that I bold on your statement. Imo, All quarters are important including the first half since it will determine how much energy, timeouts, fouls left on the 2nd half. If the team giveaway the first half, There's a chance that the other team will take advantage of it since there's a long period of rest at the halftime. IF team got a double digit behind on first half, The scenario will be more energy-consuming for the team to close the gap until they will be out of gas in 4th quarter which always be the case. The reason why GSW is so good on second half is because they have a good bench players that covers there starters unlike Boston which typically all there main guy play at the start of the game which cause them a lot on the late game.

I think it is the rotation of players why GSW have enough energy to play until the last seconds.  Even with a good number of good bench players, if the player rotation isn't monitored, they will end up in a mess.  I do agree that every quarter counts since in Basketball, every point counts.  We shouldn't say that the first half isn't important because that is where the game pacing starts.  whoever controls the tempo of the quarter wins the game.

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June 12, 2022, 03:09:10 PM
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The 1st 2 quarters doesn't matter to both teams as they are good in 3rd quarter and 4th quarter where we can see a real competition.

Agree, the most important is the 3rd and 4th quarter but it has been the Warriors who have dominated the 3rd quarters in the last 4 games, I don't know, I think Celtics has not won a 3rd quarter in the game, they won most 4th quarters only like in game 1. So what I'm saying is, the Warriors have to improve their performance in the 4th quarter as that is the most important.

Maybe you mean Boston on that I bold on your statement. Imo, All quarters are important including the first half since it will determine how much energy, timeouts, fouls left on the 2nd half. If the team giveaway the first half, There's a chance that the other team will take advantage of it since there's a long period of rest at the halftime. IF team got a double digit behind on first half, The scenario will be more energy-consuming for the team to close the gap until they will be out of gas in 4th quarter which always be the case. The reason why GSW is so good on second half is because they have a good bench players that covers there starters unlike Boston which typically all there main guy play at the start of the game which cause them a lot on the late game.

I think it is the rotation of players why GSW have enough energy to play until the last seconds.  Even with a good number of good bench players, if the player rotation isn't monitored, they will end up in a mess.  I do agree that every quarter counts since in Basketball, every point counts.  We shouldn't say that the first half isn't important because that is where the game pacing starts.  whoever controls the tempo of the quarter wins the game.

I don't think so, the starters of the Warriors played more minutes compared to the Boston Celtics starters, so they spend more energy in the game.

Look at the comparison.

Curry    40:41 mins
Wiggins     43:25 mins
Thompson  40:50 mins

For Celtics, only Tatum have played over 40+ minutes.

IMO, Warriors just did a good play in the most important minutes that's why they won the game.

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June 12, 2022, 03:23:45 PM
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I don't think so, the starters of the Warriors played more minutes compared to the Boston Celtics starters, so they spend more energy in the game.

Look at the comparison.

Curry    40:41 mins
Wiggins     43:25 mins
Thompson  40:50 mins

For Celtics, only Tatum have played over 40+ minutes.

IMO, Warriors just did a good play in the most important minutes that's why they won the game.

Yes. Gary Payton II was not given more minutes in the last couple of games. 11 minutes for game 3 and 10 minutes for game 4. I think Steve Kerr realized they badly need the experienced player to win this series. Although those bench players are doing pretty great, they make errors that cannot be brought back anymore, then there's the addition of confidence.
Another thing to consider is the height differential, especially in the rebounding capability. They love playing small ball but they are not winning while doing it. that's why they need Looney and Draymond more.
Thankfully, Wiggins is stepping up his game that's why they won. 16 rebounds is not a joke.  Cheesy

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June 12, 2022, 05:11:58 PM
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Who do you think will have more chances to win these finals!!?
GSW if we are considering there experience and home court advantage but this is still basketball and we didn't know for sure the actual outcome unless the game ends. There is no dominant team between the 2 grand finalist team so it's hard to a quick analysis unless a team manage to win consecutively in a convincing result since all the 4 matches is a close match, they just get the huge gap on the last quarter until it can't be overcome due to insufficient time in the clock.

With that in my point, I will go for GSW but not 100% since Boston is really strong to handle.
I agree that when we are talking about Finals, it is really not that easy to make a decision. Now GSW will play at home, but Celtics rarely ever lose back to back, meaning that GSW will have home court advantage and Celtics will still try to win it.

I believe that 5th game will be the most decisive game in the series, when one of the teams wins, they will be able to actually lose a game and still have a chance to win the title, and that 50% chance gives teams a clearer path for sure, no guarantees yet, but easier at least. I hope that it goes to 7th game, the more we see this series the more entertaining it became to me and I feel like I can watch these two play for another 10 games.

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June 12, 2022, 07:07:56 PM
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Who do you think will have more chances to win these finals!!?
GSW if we are considering there experience and home court advantage but this is still basketball and we didn't know for sure the actual outcome unless the game ends. There is no dominant team between the 2 grand finalist team so it's hard to a quick analysis unless a team manage to win consecutively in a convincing result since all the 4 matches is a close match, they just get the huge gap on the last quarter until it can't be overcome due to insufficient time in the clock.

With that in my point, I will go for GSW but not 100% since Boston is really strong to handle.
I agree that when we are talking about Finals, it is really not that easy to make a decision. Now GSW will play at home, but Celtics rarely ever lose back to back, meaning that GSW will have home court advantage and Celtics will still try to win it.

I believe that 5th game will be the most decisive game in the series, when one of the teams wins, they will be able to actually lose a game and still have a chance to win the title, and that 50% chance gives teams a clearer path for sure, no guarantees yet, but easier at least. I hope that it goes to 7th game, the more we see this series the more entertaining it became to me and I feel like I can watch these two play for another 10 games.

I will go with you. Whoever wins the game 5 has that upper hand in this series, not an assurance but extended

shot for the finals, once you win game 5, win or lose in game 6 still gives you another game to re-try to win the title,
unlike if you lose your chance is lesser and knowing the caliber of your opponent it will be another tough competition
to survive and push your way into a do-or-die final.
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June 12, 2022, 07:53:58 PM
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Whoever wins the game 5 has that upper hand in this series, not an assurance but extended
shot for the finals, once you win game 5, win or lose in game 6 still gives you another game to re-try to win the title,
unlike if you lose your chance is lesser and knowing the caliber of your opponent it will be another tough competition
to survive and push your way into a do-or-die final.

This is one of the reasons that the last three games require travel.  Unlike games 1 through 4, no two games will be consecutively played in the same city, thus mitigating the affect of home-field-advantage.  Unfortunately for the Celtics, this has essentially become a three-game series now and two of the games are in San Francisco.  The Warriors won't risk going behind in game 5, and since they have the advantage they'll do everything in their power to win that one.  These two teams are so evenly matched I expect each to win their remaining home games, which will make the Warriors champions in game 7.  It's been several years since the Warriors have one a championship during a home game, it's about time for another.


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June 12, 2022, 07:58:01 PM
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Yes. Gary Payton II was not given more minutes in the last couple of games. 11 minutes for game 3 and 10 minutes for game 4. I think Steve Kerr realized they badly need the experienced player to win this series. Although those bench players are doing pretty great, they make errors that cannot be brought back anymore, then there's the addition of confidence.
Another thing to consider is the height differential, especially in the rebounding capability. They love playing small ball but they are not winning while doing it. that's why they need Looney and Draymond more.
Thankfully, Wiggins is stepping up his game that's why they won. 16 rebounds is not a joke.  Cheesy
Some do even complain or being concerned about playtime with bench players is a must but with a crucial or once per year opportunity on letting your team in finals then it would be understandable for Kerr to put up

experienced players on the court as long they arent that exhausted and tired then for sure it wont really be replaced by some bench players.Im not underestimating them but with the current condition

where championship is at stake then its understandable that he would really be that aggressive as much as he could just for the sake on winning the series.

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June 12, 2022, 09:41:17 PM
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Yes. Gary Payton II was not given more minutes in the last couple of games. 11 minutes for game 3 and 10 minutes for game 4. I think Steve Kerr realized they badly need the experienced player to win this series. Although those bench players are doing pretty great, they make errors that cannot be brought back anymore, then there's the addition of confidence.
Another thing to consider is the height differential, especially in the rebounding capability. They love playing small ball but they are not winning while doing it. that's why they need Looney and Draymond more.
Thankfully, Wiggins is stepping up his game that's why they won. 16 rebounds is not a joke.  Cheesy
Some do even complain or being concerned about playtime with bench players is a must but with a crucial or once per year opportunity on letting your team in finals then it would be understandable for Kerr to put up

experienced players on the court as long they arent that exhausted and tired then for sure it wont really be replaced by some bench players.Im not underestimating them but with the current condition

where championship is at stake then its understandable that he would really be that aggressive as much as he could just for the sake on winning the series.
Its too crucial to have that experiment on the finals game so we can’t expect bench players to have longer time during the final series since both teams are relying on their top players and that’s the only way for them to get the championship. If the coaches pulls out the bench player, then probably he is just letting the top players to have some rest and analyze the whole game, we can’t expect too much from the bench player anyway.
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Yes. Gary Payton II was not given more minutes in the last couple of games. 11 minutes for game 3 and 10 minutes for game 4. I think Steve Kerr realized they badly need the experienced player to win this series. Although those bench players are doing pretty great, they make errors that cannot be brought back anymore, then there's the addition of confidence.
Another thing to consider is the height differential, especially in the rebounding capability. They love playing small ball but they are not winning while doing it. that's why they need Looney and Draymond more.
Thankfully, Wiggins is stepping up his game that's why they won. 16 rebounds is not a joke.  Cheesy
Some do even complain or being concerned about playtime with bench players is a must but with a crucial or once per year opportunity on letting your team in finals then it would be understandable for Kerr to put up

experienced players on the court as long they arent that exhausted and tired then for sure it wont really be replaced by some bench players.Im not underestimating them but with the current condition

where championship is at stake then its understandable that he would really be that aggressive as much as he could just for the sake on winning the series.
Its too crucial to have that experiment on the finals game so we can’t expect bench players to have longer time during the final series since both teams are relying on their top players and that’s the only way for them to get the championship. If the coaches pulls out the bench player, then probably he is just letting the top players to have some rest and analyze the whole game, we can’t expect too much from the bench player anyway.
Exactly on what i do said.Its really indeed that too dangerous for them to take  risk on letting bench players to play long because its just common sense that it would be relevant if they do put up those star players

on higher duration and as you can see that those 3 players on Warriors do really able to have that 40m+ mark which is only having one in celtics.I dont have any problems about gametime in between starters and
bench because each condition would really be situational which would also needed up appropriate action to win up a championship.There should be no room for errors.

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June 12, 2022, 10:54:29 PM
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The Game 4 was fabulous for especially Steph Curry. His 43-point effort had a big contribution in this 107-97 victory. Warriors can be really unstoppable when they capture the momentum. They rely on Curry in these times and Celtics have a bigger responsibility about hindering him as much as possible in these times. Otherwise this happens and they have nothing to do about it. Everything was decided in the 4th quarter. Anyway I think Celtics will have a big response to this next time.

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It's been a few seasons since we've had a balanced NBA Finals this way. I confess that we couldn't predict (at least) who will actually be the champion of this season!
If the Warriors don't play seriously there is a small chance they will lose to the Celtics (like for example in games 1 and 3), but on the other hand, the Warriors have demonstrated that they are a team strong and can be the champions again, and that he proved in this last game at TD Garden!

Who do you think will have more chances to win these finals!!?

Boston Celtics erased all the doubts that they won't stand a chance against the Golden State Warriors.

Before the start of the NBA Finals, I'm seeing some posts around that how the Celtics can even match the much more powerful Warriors. I think no one even imagined except for the Celtics fans that the series will be tied at 2-2 before Game 5.

However, the most predicted exact score of 4-2 in favor of the Warriors still has a chance to happen especially if they will win on their homecourt arena in Game 5 and then finish the series on the Celtic's homecourt in Game 6. But with how these teams are showing off their respective performance, it now becomes unpredictable who will win in Game 5 as homecourt advantage is not even a big advantage.

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June 12, 2022, 11:01:49 PM
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I don't think so, the starters of the Warriors played more minutes compared to the Boston Celtics starters, so they spend more energy in the game.

Look at the comparison.

Curry    40:41 mins
Wiggins     43:25 mins
Thompson  40:50 mins

For Celtics, only Tatum have played over 40+ minutes.

IMO, Warriors just did a good play in the most important minutes that's why they won the game.

Yes. Gary Payton II was not given more minutes in the last couple of games. 11 minutes for game 3 and 10 minutes for game 4. I think Steve Kerr realized they badly need the experienced player to win this series. Although those bench players are doing pretty great, they make errors that cannot be brought back anymore, then there's the addition of confidence.
Another thing to consider is the height differential, especially in the rebounding capability. They love playing small ball but they are not winning while doing it. that's why they need Looney and Draymond more.
Thankfully, Wiggins is stepping up his game that's why they won. 16 rebounds is not a joke.  Cheesy

True, maybe if the complexion of the game changes, he might insert Gary Payton II. But perhaps the first goal is not stay with the Celtics and not to get blown out again. And then Curry had to carry the team and then the experience players like Draymond and Klay was needed. Wiggins though log many minutes because he is doing good specially in rebounds. So it was a total effort for them and obviously a big statement win a crucial stretch of the series.
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The Game 4 was fabulous for especially Steph Curry. His 43-point effort had a big contribution in this 107-97 victory. Warriors can be really unstoppable when they capture the momentum. They rely on Curry in these times and Celtics have a bigger responsibility about hindering him as much as possible in these times. Otherwise this happens and they have nothing to do about it. Everything was decided in the 4th quarter. Anyway I think Celtics will have a big response to this next time.

We haven't seen a momentum shift though, but game 5 might be the one that will put the Warriors on top of the series and gain the momentum they needed in order to win the NBA finals. It's really hard to stop a shooter like Curry, and I don't think that anyone in the Celtics team can defend him well. And as we all know the Warriors is an experienced team and so they know the importance of winning game 4 at the road. Now it's time for them to go back to their home court and one another game.

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June 12, 2022, 11:42:38 PM
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Some do even complain or being concerned about playtime with bench players is a must but with a crucial or once per year opportunity on letting your team in finals then it would be understandable for Kerr to put up experienced players on the court as long they arent that exhausted and tired then for sure it wont really be replaced by some bench players.

Take note also that even if the starters don't have a good stat sheet per game, that's not always the basis that they are struggling that night. There's a so-called contribution that is not listed in the stat sheet and it's proven effective. Draymond Green is a good example of a player who is always questioned because he is getting a good playing time but his stat sheet is sometimes clean or having the worst night. They didn't realize that the presence of Draymond Green on the court brings an impact to his teammates and a threat in defense on the opposing team.

Steve Kerr already knows the drill as an experienced coach and is used to dealing with the Finals environment several times already. I'm sure it's not that he doesn't want the bench players to be involved but there will be the right timing to put these guys depending on the situation.

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June 12, 2022, 11:47:05 PM
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Some do even complain or being concerned about playtime with bench players is a must but with a crucial or once per year opportunity on letting your team in finals then it would be understandable for Kerr to put up experienced players on the court as long they arent that exhausted and tired then for sure it wont really be replaced by some bench players.

Take note also that even if the starters don't have a good stat sheet per game, that's not always the basis that they are struggling that night. There's a so-called contribution that is not listed in the stat sheet and it's proven effective. Draymond Green is a good example of a player who is always questioned because he is getting a good playing time but his stat sheet is sometimes clean or having the worst night. They didn't realize that the presence of Draymond Green on the court brings an impact to his teammates and a threat in defense on the opposing team.

Steve Kerr already knows the drill as an experienced coach and is used to dealing with the Finals environment several times already. I'm sure it's not that he doesn't want the bench players to be involved but there will be the right timing to put these guys depending on the situation.

Yeah draymond is key to this team and you are right not on the stat sheet.  Watch the Warriors when green is out for an extended period of time, their defense is sub par.  He changes the way other teams can attack the basket against them.  Stats aren't the only thing especially in basketball.

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June 12, 2022, 11:54:29 PM
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Some do even complain or being concerned about playtime with bench players is a must but with a crucial or once per year opportunity on letting your team in finals then it would be understandable for Kerr to put up experienced players on the court as long they arent that exhausted and tired then for sure it wont really be replaced by some bench players.

Take note also that even if the starters don't have a good stat sheet per game, that's not always the basis that they are struggling that night. There's a so-called contribution that is not listed in the stat sheet and it's proven effective. Draymond Green is a good example of a player who is always questioned because he is getting a good playing time but his stat sheet is sometimes clean or having the worst night. They didn't realize that the presence of Draymond Green on the court brings an impact to his teammates and a threat in defense on the opposing team.

Steve Kerr already knows the drill as an experienced coach and is used to dealing with the Finals environment several times already. I'm sure it's not that he doesn't want the bench players to be involved but there will be the right timing to put these guys depending on the situation.

Yeah draymond is key to this team and you are right not on the stat sheet.  Watch the Warriors when green is out for an extended period of time, their defense is sub par.  He changes the way other teams can attack the basket against them.  Stats aren't the only thing especially in basketball.
I agree with this yet boosting up morale on other team members is something that relevant whenever we do see a player which is indeed strong or relevant for such position specially
Green for tough defense and other related function towards this key area. Numbers wouldnt be always the basis but rather the contribution.I might be that contradicting earlier
about bench players and looking  down on them but its true that there's always a right time on where these guys should be inserted in but i do still doubt that it would
happen on a finals game which is really very that important.

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June 13, 2022, 03:44:21 AM
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It's been a few seasons since we've had a balanced NBA Finals this way. I confess that we couldn't predict (at least) who will actually be the champion of this season!
If the Warriors don't play seriously there is a small chance they will lose to the Celtics (like for example in games 1 and 3), but on the other hand, the Warriors have demonstrated that they are a team strong and can be the champions again, and that he proved in this last game at TD Garden!

Who do you think will have more chances to win these finals!!?

Boston Celtics erased all the doubts that they won't stand a chance against the Golden State Warriors.

Before the start of the NBA Finals, I'm seeing some posts around that how the Celtics can even match the much more powerful Warriors. I think no one even imagined except for the Celtics fans that the series will be tied at 2-2 before Game 5.

However, the most predicted exact score of 4-2 in favor of the Warriors still has a chance to happen especially if they will win on their homecourt arena in Game 5 and then finish the series on the Celtic's homecourt in Game 6. But with how these teams are showing off their respective performance, it now becomes unpredictable who will win in Game 5 as homecourt advantage is not even a big advantage.
Hmm... I don't know, the Warriors are a strong and traditional team, because for a few years they were a team that had a great number of victories in the NBA.

The Celtics are a classic team (despite their young squad), if Boston can defend Curry or Thompson extremely well, that will be a big advantage for the Celtics, I believe Smart is the best option for this, he is not very tall but he is fast but at the same time he is strong and can guard Thompson as well.

For the Celtics win, some NBA star (GSW) will have to get injured or the Celtics players will have to play extremely well!!

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It's been a few seasons since we've had a balanced NBA Finals this way. I confess that we couldn't predict (at least) who will actually be the champion of this season!
If the Warriors don't play seriously there is a small chance they will lose to the Celtics (like for example in games 1 and 3), but on the other hand, the Warriors have demonstrated that they are a team strong and can be the champions again, and that he proved in this last game at TD Garden!

Who do you think will have more chances to win these finals!!?

Boston Celtics erased all the doubts that they won't stand a chance against the Golden State Warriors.

Before the start of the NBA Finals, I'm seeing some posts around that how the Celtics can even match the much more powerful Warriors. I think no one even imagined except for the Celtics fans that the series will be tied at 2-2 before Game 5.

However, the most predicted exact score of 4-2 in favor of the Warriors still has a chance to happen especially if they will win on their homecourt arena in Game 5 and then finish the series on the Celtic's homecourt in Game 6. But with how these teams are showing off their respective performance, it now becomes unpredictable who will win in Game 5 as homecourt advantage is not even a big advantage.
Hmm... I don't know, the Warriors are a strong and traditional team, because for a few years they were a team that had a great number of victories in the NBA.

The Celtics are a classic team (despite their young squad), if Boston can defend Curry or Thompson extremely well, that will be a big advantage for the Celtics, I believe Smart is the best option for this, he is not very tall but he is fast but at the same time he is strong and can guard Thompson as well.

For the Celtics win, some NBA star (GSW) will have to get injured or the Celtics players will have to play extremely well!!

The Celtics did a great job on Thompson but they cannot limit the production of Curry, he was just so unguardable in the last 4 games and had an explosive game in game 4 to even the series. His confidence level now is in a high state, he will be more aggressive in shooting the ball in game 5 because he wants to have the lead in the series.


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