Illuminati/Masons: Not that Bad

[Jdoss]

So after a few weeks trolling various BTC websites and Reddit. One of the major themes I have noticed has been an incredible hatred of Illuminati/Masons. But why. I mean sure they have power and all but I don't see anything worse than a little graft. Moreover, they let us have cool things like cinnabuns, popcorn, Avenger movies, BTC, free medical care (Canada), freedom of religion,unlimited access to women, etc.

So why the hate. 

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[roslinpl]

this is perhaps why I respect them, but I think world would be better without any groups manipulating our system (controlling).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erbh3YRsxy4

[skeet]

The Illuminati are the people who determine the path of humanity by their fortune and power. Many are proven very evil but many are not. Bill Gates is one of them. He helps a lot of people and I don't think he is bad.

[Wilikon]

So after a few weeks trolling various BTC websites and Reddit. One of the major themes I have noticed has been an incredible hatred of Illuminati/Masons. But why. I mean sure they have power and all but I don't see anything worse than a little graft. Moreover, they let us have cool things like cinnabuns, popcorn, Avenger movies, BTC, free medical care (Canada), freedom of religion,unlimited access to women, etc.

So why the hate. 

Are you saying this so called hate is only found on BTC reddit and here?




Try harder...

[roslinpl]

The Illuminati are the people who determine the path of humanity by their fortune and power. Many are proven very evil but many are not. Bill Gates is one of them. He helps a lot of people and I don't think he is bad.

hehehehheh. Bill Gates is illuminati?

Anyway - this guy stole MsDos and build his fortune on a stealing somebodies work!
Noooo... he isn't bad .... he just stole millions.

[Khadaji]

The Illuminati are the people who determine the path of humanity by their fortune and power. Many are proven very evil but many are not. Bill Gates is one of them. He helps a lot of people and I don't think he is bad.

hehehehheh. Bill Gates is illuminati?

Anyway - this guy stole MsDos and build his fortune on a stealing somebodies work!
Noooo... he isn't bad .... he just stole millions.

If he paid $25,000 for the rights to Qdos, how did he 'steal' it?

[roslinpl]

Take a history lessons about Bill.

Every body knows he steals it. Even hacktivists say so.

[Hawker]

Take a history lessons about Bill.

Every body knows he steals it. Even hacktivists say so.

Everyone except the guy who wrote it.  He freely sold it to MS for $25000 and then got a bonus of $50000 when joined Microsoft as an employee.

[roslinpl]

Take a history lessons about Bill.

Every body knows he steals it. Even hacktivists say so.

Everyone except the guy who wrote it.  He freely sold it to MS for $25000 and then got a bonus of $50000 when joined Microsoft as an employee.

Superb so even if this us true instead of earning millions he get 75k. Great for him.

[Khadaji]

Take a history lessons about Bill.

Every body knows he steals it. Even hacktivists say so.

Everyone except the guy who wrote it.  He freely sold it to MS for $25000 and then got a bonus of $50000 when joined Microsoft as an employee.

Superb so even if this us true instead of earning millions he get 75k. Great for him.

Sheer speculation not based on anything at all.

This is a silly supposition based on a flawed understanding of everyone as 'equal'. Everyone is equally brilliant, everyone is equally capable, everyone is equally persistent.

Silly. 

[mycoin254]

The Illuminati are the people who determine the path of humanity by their fortune and power. Many are proven very evil but many are not. Bill Gates is one of them. He helps a lot of people and I don't think he is bad.

Not exactly right and wrong, light and darkness are not absolute. Now people only remember him doing charity work, even before he was a prisoner and how.

[direction]

The Illuminati are the people who determine the path of humanity by their fortune and power. Many are proven very evil but many are not. Bill Gates is one of them. He helps a lot of people and I don't think he is bad.

Means not qualitative means, Bill his approach was very wise, I admire him for what he has done.

[department]

The Illuminati are the people who determine the path of humanity by their fortune and power. Many are proven very evil but many are not. Bill Gates is one of them. He helps a lot of people and I don't think he is bad.

Means not qualitative means, Bill his approach was very wise, I admire him for what he has done.

It's sad to see people continuing to propagate illuminati conspiracy theories, without bothering to do a simple google search or reading the wiki entry on the subject. If the Illuminati still existed, they would be completely in support of bitcoin and all its goals.

[Wilikon]

First. No one can prove the Illuminati exist. A bunch of rich people is no proof they are the Illuminati.

Second. Bitcoin was created to, in part, pacifically fight the status quo by changing the mind and open every day people's eyes from today's massive economic illusion. Worldwide.

The Illuminati concept is the antithesis of bitcoin and to be thankful to them (if they exist) on the bitcoin forum is to be a useful idiot. If you believe you are not an anarchist or a libertarian  but a socialist that's even worse.

[Hawker]

Take a history lessons about Bill.

Every body knows he steals it. Even hacktivists say so.

Everyone except the guy who wrote it.  He freely sold it to MS for $25000 and then got a bonus of $50000 when joined Microsoft as an employee.

Superb so even if this us true instead of earning millions he get 75k. Great for him.

Correct.  Tim Paterson was delighted to get the money.  Do remember that DOS was the last resort and that IBM really really wanted the CPM deal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/M

Its worth mention that this was the first of 3 deals for Paterson - all with MS - and he was a multimillionaire as a result. 

[knight22]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1moCh_UzfmA 

[counter]

Well to answer the question posed by the OP.  I'd say they are not liked because the dumb down the general population and lie to them so they can maintain control  of power and do as they feel.  They have an anti human agenda and think they are better then everyone else IMO.

[Balthazar]

"Secret signs of zionism can be found even at the ceiling, if you wish so".

[counter]

Balthazar are you insisting that this could all just be in our head or am I misunderstanding you post.  I'm genuinely curious and not being confrontational in the slightest.

[Balthazar]

Balthazar are you insisting that this could all just be in our head or am I misunderstanding you post.  I'm genuinely curious and not being confrontational in the slightest.

No problem mate, it's just a regular off-topic

Of course there can be a group of oligarchs which represents a shadow government... But everything has the notable limits, their power is limited too...

[Hawker]

"Secret signs of zionism can be found even at the ceiling, if you wish so".

That's a very good poster.  Thanks

[counter]

Balthazar are you insisting that this could all just be in our head or am I misunderstanding you post.  I'm genuinely curious and not being confrontational in the slightest.

No problem mate, it's just a regular off-topic

Of course there can be a group of oligarchs which represents a shadow government... But everything has the notable limits, their power is limited too...

OK, I was just curious what your thoughts were on the topic.  Thanks for clarifying your point of view and giving me a better idea of the meaning of your post.  Cheers my friend.

[zolace]

Most of these people have no idea what they are talking about. How you called "Illuminati" or other people may call it as "Global mafia" or "Elite bankers" does indeed exist, and there is actually a lot of proofs of this! For example: why in second WWII Hitler did not attack Switzerland, even though he did capture almost whole Europe but never touched Switzerland? Here's the answer: Hitler knew that his leaders were sitting there in banks and he were just a puppet in this global war game.

My advice to all who is interested in this: search as much info as possible because no one is going to tell you all answers and also tell everyone else about this because this is a serious thing which will help humanity to wake up.

[Hawker]

Most of these people have no idea what they are talking about. How you called "Illuminati" or other people may call it as "Global mafia" or "Elite bankers" does indeed exist, and there is actually a lot of proofs of this! For example: why in second WWII Hitler did not attack Switzerland, even though he did capture almost whole Europe but never touched Switzerland? Here's the answer: Hitler knew that his leaders were sitting there in banks and he were just a puppet in this global war game.

My advice to all who is interested in this: search as much info as possible because no one is going to tell you all answers and also tell everyone else about this because this is a serious thing which will help humanity to wake up.

At the risk of wasting time on a conspiracy nut, Germany did not attack Switzerland because Switzerland was neutral.  For the exact same reason, Germany did not invade Sweden.  If you take a quick look at a history book one day, you will find that Germany did have reason to go to war with all of its opponents in WW2 with the egregious exception of the US.  Hitler believed the pure Japanese would overwhelm the mongrel Americans - its one of the examples of daft ideologies blinding people to reality.

[roslinpl]

Don't you think "Illuminati" is something like "Santa Claus"...


They do not exist this is my opinion.If they have such a great power why I do not see it's results?

[RobFordWotWot]

Historically:

The Illuminati (plural of Latin illuminatus, "enlightened") is a name given to several groups, both real and fictitious. Historically, the name refers to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society founded on May 1, 1776 to oppose superstition, prejudice, religious influence over public life, abuses of state power, and to support women's education and gender equality. The Illuminati—along with other secret societies—were outlawed by the Bavarian ruler, Charles Theodore, with the encouragement of the Roman Catholic Church, and permanently disbanded in 1785

If you don't think that secret societies or groups of like-minded investors exist you are crazy. Does it matter what name is put to these groups? Yes and No.

[Rassah]

*facepalm* It's sad to see people continuing to propagate illuminati conspiracy theories, without bothering to do a simple google search or reading the wiki entry on the subject. If the Illuminati still existed, they would be completely in support of bitcoin and all its goals.

[roslinpl]

*facepalm* It's sad to see people continuing to propagate illuminati conspiracy theories, without bothering to do a simple google search or reading the wiki entry on the subject. If the Illuminati still existed, they would be completely in support of bitcoin and all its goals.

Indeed !!!! Illuminati should love decentralized idea of cryptocoins!

[roslinpl]

xkcd always relevant:

True. :-) if they have such a great control why they don't make wonderful resoults?

:-)

[Wilikon]

*facepalm* It's sad to see people continuing to propagate illuminati conspiracy theories, without bothering to do a simple google search or reading the wiki entry on the subject. If the Illuminati still existed, they would be completely in support of bitcoin and all its goals.

As far as conspiracies/popular beliefs go, you don't mix Bigfoot with mermaids, mermaids with UFO sightings, UFO sightings with the chupacabra, cow mutilations with voodoo dolls, nor the Illuminati being good for the people and loving a technology like Bitcoin. Simple example: Nikola Tesla would belong to the Club of the Enlightened with his World Power System . JP Morgan would belong to the Illuminati's Club.

Illuminati = power and knowledge concentration for a few Ultra Elites above religious beliefs, above any form of morals, any State Laws. forever.

[superresistant]

What the fuck with this iluminati shit ?

Are you 12 ?

[Wilikon]

What the fuck with this iluminati shit ?

Are you 12 ?

This this a movement to redefine what is the meaning of being an Illuminati. That person may not be 12. That person may simply do its job: paid to spread FUD in the bitcointalk forum.

[Rassah]

Illuminati = power and knowledge concentration for a few Ultra Elites above religious beliefs, above any form of morals, any State Laws. forever.

That's the propaganda that the church and the government at the time were spreading about Illuminati, but absolutely not what they were for, historically. Illuminati comes from the word "to illuminate," and their goals were specifically to illuminate minds in regards to "dark," mind-closing things like religion, bigotry, and government subjugation. Of course, as governments and those in power have often demonstrated (and 2004 presidential elections and Fox News continues to demonstrate), the way you destroy a thing that is trying to bring down your power is by incessantly claiming that the thing is exactly the opposite of what it is. The Illuminati were exactly the opposite of power-hungry shadow government.

[superresistant]

Illuminati = power and knowledge concentration for a few Ultra Elites above religious beliefs, above any form of morals, any State Laws. forever.

That's the propaganda that the church and the government at the time were spreading about Illuminati, but absolutely not what they were for, historically. Illuminati comes from the word "to illuminate," and their goals were specifically to illuminate minds in regards to "dark," mind-closing things like religion, bigotry, and government subjugation. Of course, as governments and those in power have often demonstrated (and 2004 presidential elections and Fox News continues to demonstrate), the way you destroy a thing that is trying to bring down your power is by incessantly claiming that the thing is exactly the opposite of what it is. The Illuminati were exactly the opposite of power-hungry shadow government.

But why the fuck teenagers and poor people continue the propaganda while governments don't give a shit since few hundred years ?

I think it is just an excuse for their miserable life : "it's not my fault, it's the Illuminati"

[Khadaji]

I think it is just an excuse for their miserable life : "it's not my fault, it's the Illuminati"

Not to change the topic, but you could replace 'Illuminati' with 'Jews' and be just as correct.

[superresistant]

I think it is just an excuse for their miserable life : "it's not my fault, it's the Illuminati"

Not to change the topic, but you could replace 'Illuminati' with 'Jews' and be just as correct.

"I don't have a job it is because of the immigrants"

[RobFordWotWot]

I think it is just an excuse for their miserable life : "it's not my fault, it's the Illuminati"

Not to change the topic, but you could replace 'Illuminati' with 'Jews' and be just as correct.

"I don't have a job it is because of the immigrants"

I have no earthly clue how the world economy works. The man is just trying to keep us down!

[niothor]

Thread about the illuminati and the red font guy , Actor_Tom_Truong , is not here posting?

[roslinpl]

If I were an Illuminati I would do my best to keep bitcoin price up up and away :-)

[Wilikon]

So after a few weeks trolling various BTC websites and Reddit. One of the major themes I have noticed has been an incredible hatred of Illuminati/Masons. But why. I mean sure they have power and all but I don't see anything worse than a little graft. Moreover, they let us have cool things like cinnabuns, popcorn, Avenger movies, BTC, free medical care (Canada), freedom of religion,unlimited access to women, etc.

So why the hate. 

Are you saying this so called hate is only found on BTC reddit and here?




Try harder...

Black people are the fathers and mothers of civilization, white men are the devil, the Christian god is nothing more than a ghost and only a small percentage of people understand the world.

These are just some of the ­beliefs behind the bling — the gaudy Five Percent Nation ­medallions worn by Jay Z and Carmelo Anthony.
Last week, all eyes at the Barclays Center weren’t on Jay Z’s better half, Beyoncé — but on the coaster-size golden pendant swinging from the rapper’s neck as the couple sat courtside. Asked once if the group’s symbol — an eight-point star with the number 7 in the middle — held any meaning to him, the rapper shrugged, “A little bit.”
So what exactly do Five Percenters believe?
“The rationale is that the black man is God and created the universe, and is physically stronger and intellectually stronger and more righteous naturally,” says Michael Muhammad Knight, an author of two books on the radical group.
“Whiteness is weak and wicked and inferior — basically just an errant child who needs to be corrected.”
The group was founded in 1964 in Harlem by Clarence Smith, who later changed his name to Allah, a former student of Malcolm X who disagreed with the Nation of Islam over the nature of God.
Smith rejected the notion of a supernatural deity and instead believed that all black men had God in them and that black women were “earths” who took on a complementary yet subordinate role to their gods.
The idea is empowering, Knight says.
“Anytime someone is saying you have to accept your conditions of oppression and slavery and pray to an unseen god — that kind of god is just being used to keep people down and to keep people from looking to themselves as a solution to their problems,” he notes. “If there is a problem, no one will fix it for you, except yourself.”
Five Percenters don’t consider themselves Muslim, but their name comes from the Nation of Islam’s belief that 5 percent of humanity are “poor righteous teachers” who exist to enlighten the masses about the truth of existence.
Members will sometimes refer to themselves as “scientists” to drive home the search for truth. And they face a tall task, because under their belief system, 10 percent of the world’s population controls the other 85 percent by spreading the belief in a “mystery God.”
To show followers the way, members must learn the Supreme Mathematics and Supreme Alphabet — powerful tools to decipher the meaning of the universe. In both, each letter and number represents a concept, for example, 1 is knowledge, 2 is wisdom, while A is Allah and B is be, or born. The number 7 on Jay Z’s pendant stands for God.
Caucasians, meanwhile, don’t enjoy an exalted status in the narrative of the Five Percenters.
“The first lesson I learned from the Five Percent was simple: F–k white people. Seriously. White people are devils,” Knight, 36, who is white and converted to ­Islam as a teenager, once wrote.
He insisted the movement has been welcoming and that he views the controversial sentiment as a statement about power rather than biology.
“For me, it is about who is marked as privileged in the power relations of this society,” he says.
Some followers take exception to those who transform their flag into a fashion accessory.
“Jay Z is not an active member — no one has vouched for him” Saladin Allah, a representative of the group’s upstate region, told The Post. “It was always understood that you don’t wear the ­regalia if you don’t totally subscribe to the life.”

http://nypost.com/2014/04/06/jay-zs-medallion-bears-logo-of-five-percent-radical-group/



Jay-Z Embraces Five-Percent Nation, Addresses Illuminati and Questions Other Religions


Jay-Z appears to have embraced the beliefs of the Five-Percent Nation, which is an American organization that holds to the thought that 5 percent of the Earth has the ability to enlighten the rest.

[...]
Jay-Z goes on to illustrate how he is like a God to the entertainment world and his fans are his congregation. "I confess, God in the flesh, live among the serpents turn arenas into churches."

Five-Percent members frequently refer to themselves as God according to their doctrine.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/jay-z-embraces-five-percent-nation-addresses-illuminati-and-questions-other-religions-99848/

[dank]

Illuminati = power and knowledge concentration for a few Ultra Elites above religious beliefs, above any form of morals, any State Laws. forever.

That's the propaganda that the church and the government at the time were spreading about Illuminati, but absolutely not what they were for, historically. Illuminati comes from the word "to illuminate," and their goals were specifically to illuminate minds in regards to "dark," mind-closing things like religion, bigotry, and government subjugation. Of course, as governments and those in power have often demonstrated (and 2004 presidential elections and Fox News continues to demonstrate), the way you destroy a thing that is trying to bring down your power is by incessantly claiming that the thing is exactly the opposite of what it is. The Illuminati were exactly the opposite of power-hungry shadow government.

Then why don't they approach me and help manifest the music festival?  We can illuminate the entire world through mass meditation.

[Wilikon]

Illuminati = power and knowledge concentration for a few Ultra Elites above religious beliefs, above any form of morals, any State Laws. forever.

That's the propaganda that the church and the government at the time were spreading about Illuminati, but absolutely not what they were for, historically. Illuminati comes from the word "to illuminate," and their goals were specifically to illuminate minds in regards to "dark," mind-closing things like religion, bigotry, and government subjugation. Of course, as governments and those in power have often demonstrated (and 2004 presidential elections and Fox News continues to demonstrate), the way you destroy a thing that is trying to bring down your power is by incessantly claiming that the thing is exactly the opposite of what it is. The Illuminati were exactly the opposite of power-hungry shadow government.

Then why don't they approach me and help manifest the music festival?  We can illuminate the entire world through mass meditation.

Simply because the first and most beautiful of God's angel was named after the light... The Angel of Light... And those people chose their name, not to be a beacon for humanity but instead to honor their true master, the lightbearer.





Anyway nothing says they exist.

[counter]

I find the topic tends to be more of a distraction these days.  I like the idea of a healthy discussion but it never really seems to work out that way.

[ahmedjadoon]

I think Illuminati are known as Bilderberg Group these days.Am I wrong?

[niothor]

I think Illuminati are known as Bilderberg Group these days.Am I wrong?

Every damn time somebody needs a conspiracy theory it has to throw in the Illuminati . Just because the name is kind'f cool.
But really , nobody has a real clue if what who when those guys are .

[ahmedjadoon]

I think Illuminati are known as Bilderberg Group these days.Am I wrong?

Every damn time somebody needs a conspiracy theory it has to throw in the Illuminati . Just because the name is kind'f cool.
But really , nobody has a real clue if what who when those guys are .

Check out there official website http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/index.php
They have secret meetings each year and powerful individuals attend.

[Wilikon]

I think Illuminati are known as Bilderberg Group these days.Am I wrong?

The illuminati are whatever you want them to be. I love science fiction and UFOs for example. I could say The illuminati are many generations of a race who's first mission is to keep their interest first and center, above the "natives" I.e. us. You cannot prove they exist so they can be anything. You can believe any group will act for their own interest for sure and be defined as evil or good. You need to have strong evidences they exist.

Wearing a funny looking mask while having orgies on a island is not proof you belong to the illuminati...

[Rassah]

I think Illuminati are known as Bilderberg Group these days.Am I wrong?

Yes, you are wrong. One is a group of anti-theist anarchists, the other is just a group of billionaires who like to go to conferences where they can hang out with like-minded people. If money was Star Wars or Dungeons and Dragons, Bilderberg Group meets would be the equivalent of nerd conventions, where people who can't relate to anyone else in their real life, go to meet like-minded souls.
I suspect bitcoin millionaires will eventually end up going to those meetings as well.