[Boxing]: Ryan Garcia vs Javier Fortuna - July 16

[goaldigger]

And what if Fortuna derails all the plans of Golden Boy on Ryan? That's going to hurt for them and then they are going to be criticized more and by the time he faces those big names, maybe the hype is no longer there for the kid.

There would be a big shake out if Fortuna upset Ryan Garcia it's a big humiliation, he is the guy who keeps talking that he wants this guy and will knock him out but fighting fighters like Fortuna, who I think is not on Ryan Garcia's level

I wonder why Garcia decline Cruz in the first place and choose Fortuna instead, well something is happening here that we don’t know but for sure Garcia will be on a good position here since he will not choose a fighter if he think he can’t beat him. Garcia is young and talented, he will go for more fights most probably but to remain the good hype, he must won against Fortuna or else this can be the start of his falling career.

Most probably his promoter sees that he is not ready yet for that big fight. This 2nd fight is going to be his 2nd tune-up fight, and after this then maybe they can talk about the deal for the big fight. I still believe in Garcia, one of my favorite boxers and I know he will be able to win in his upcoming big fights.

His team will always go for what's the best for their boxer and with this changes, most probably Garcia is trying to be trained on other boxer and he should not lose on this match because it can affect his career if ever he loss to Fortuna. I'm not familiar with Fortuna though he already have 3 losses on his record while Garcia is still clean technically, Garcia is on a big advantage here and maybe this is the reason why his team choses to fight other boxer instead. A month of preparation is already good for this two boxer, let's see if this will push through or we might see another changes with their schedule.

[stadus]

^ That will be great if he is going to be match against Isaac Cruz. I think anyone in the division is going to be a mismatch nightmare for the Pitbull and then he was power too, so he is really a danger that's why Ryan's handler is not yet ready to match him with Cruz. And they could reason that this is supposed to happen before and now that they are just obliging perhaps because of their contract with Fortuna's camp to give him a fight against Ryan. So we will see after in this fight if Garcia is ready for the big stage and fight the other champions.

Yes, it would be a great challenge for Ryan Garcia to straighten his path once and for all and that is if his camps accepted the order of WBC but as I said in my early posts, they cannot afford to see Garcia being defeated by Pitbull because they're looking forward to see bigger fights against Kambosos Jr. or Tank Davis. Let's see if Garcia can correct his mistakes and if he will improve more from the Tagoe fight.

I agree, maybe after the Tagoe fight, Dela Hoya see that something is still not right for Ryan. And that is why he is afraid to have him face one Isaac Cruz at this point.

For sure Ryan is one the watch for the Kambosos Jr vs Haney this weekend. I haven't heard from him on who he thinks is going to win. Fortuna is good, but I don't think he is with the same breath with Garcia. But Ryan should proved this in the ring and knock out Fortuna so send the message to all 135 lbs champion.

Not maybe mate, it was evident that Garcia still lacks something and he is still not in his usual performance where he is so confident. Even Ryan Garcia himself admitted that he wasn't satisfied with his performance from that fight and he said that he will work on his jab more and have some improvement. I want Garcia to face Pitbull but unfortunately, this is not the time for that fight in the Golden Boy's eyes.

Not only into co-fellow boxers/promoters have seen that stuff but in overall we fans does really able to notice that where there's lacking when it comes to his jab.This isnt the usual that we do see
those swift and precised jabs that could really knock out or give out some heavy blow to opponent which is something that we havent seen on Tagoe vs fight but still its a win which matter the most
but there are lots of people who arent that contented or get convinced that it was a good performance from Garcia but well there are still lots of time to make out some adjustments
and its good that he realized those lacking things which is great.

Well, most of the fans are also not convinced on his performance and that includes me. I remember that there's two things that got me disappointed from that fight, first was that I assumed and expected that Emmanuel Tagoe would push Ryan Garcia to his limits and give him a challenging fight but when Tagoe tasted a good punch from the latter in the early rounds, he then suddenly goes for a survival mode. 2nd, I expected that Ryan Garcia would be back to his usual rhythm as he have rested good from the fight from Campbell and that he would somehow knockout Tagoe.

He better admit to himself that he ain't that impressive on the said fight against Tagoe, and now he's calling Tank Davis? Is he really serious? He and his team was even afraid to take the fight against Pitbull, how much more if it's Kambosos or Davis. lol

[robelneo]

He better admit to himself that he ain't that impressive on the said fight against Tagoe, and now he's calling Tank Davis? Is he really serious? He and his team was even afraid to take the fight against Pitbull, how much more if it's Kambosos or Davis. lol

I agree he is not convincing in his last fight against Tagoe, boxers are assessed based on their last fight and how they perform, Ryan can not have a performance like that and call out big names, this is the reason why his promoters opted for him to fight Fortuna, all he has to do is to knock out Fortuna show class and domination then he can call out the likes of Tank or Haney, but right now he should shut up train hard so he can give us a good fight where we can be impressed.

[stadus]

He better admit to himself that he ain't that impressive on the said fight against Tagoe, and now he's calling Tank Davis? Is he really serious? He and his team was even afraid to take the fight against Pitbull, how much more if it's Kambosos or Davis. lol

I agree he is not convincing in his last fight against Tagoe, boxers are assessed based on their last fight and how they perform, Ryan can not have a performance like that and call out big names, this is the reason why his promoters opted for him to fight Fortuna, all he has to do is to knock out Fortuna show class and domination then he can call out the likes of Tank or Haney, but right now he should shut up train hard so he can give us a good fight where we can be impressed.

He should win this fight and we might see a Garcia vs Tank, that would be an interesting fight as he got some height and a good reach that could catch Haney even though Haney is not so aggressive and just play smart boxing like what he did to Kambasos. I love boxers who are aggressive, and although Haney is good, I might put my bet on Garcia to beat him.

[Fredomago]

He better admit to himself that he ain't that impressive on the said fight against Tagoe, and now he's calling Tank Davis? Is he really serious? He and his team was even afraid to take the fight against Pitbull, how much more if it's Kambosos or Davis. lol

I agree he is not convincing in his last fight against Tagoe, boxers are assessed based on their last fight and how they perform, Ryan can not have a performance like that and call out big names, this is the reason why his promoters opted for him to fight Fortuna, all he has to do is to knock out Fortuna show class and domination then he can call out the likes of Tank or Haney, but right now he should shut up train hard so he can give us a good fight where we can be impressed.

What an early hype for him calling someone who already proven their position now in this sport, like what you both said his last fight is not that impressive, fans may still back him up but he needs to bring something to catch more attentions, he should be focusing with his hard trainings to condition, and put some aggressiveness against Fortuna.

He should do the talk once he made his statement about his upcoming fight. It will surely bring the attention of those

fighters he wanted to fight next..

[Baofeng]

He better admit to himself that he ain't that impressive on the said fight against Tagoe, and now he's calling Tank Davis? Is he really serious? He and his team was even afraid to take the fight against Pitbull, how much more if it's Kambosos or Davis. lol

I agree he is not convincing in his last fight against Tagoe, boxers are assessed based on their last fight and how they perform, Ryan can not have a performance like that and call out big names, this is the reason why his promoters opted for him to fight Fortuna, all he has to do is to knock out Fortuna show class and domination then he can call out the likes of Tank or Haney, but right now he should shut up train hard so he can give us a good fight where we can be impressed.

Yes, but Ryan still wants to fight Tank Davis, hehehe, he went as far as talking to Leonard Ellerbe in the Davis vs Romero fight and saying f***ed Golden Boy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYHtTvOYAmg

But then again, we will have to wait for him to hurdle Fortuna first. He should do the talking inside the ring because I must admit the hype on Ryan is gone now. We have Davis and Haney as the top dog in this division. And we all know that Golden Boy doesn't want him to get closer with those names right now because he is not ready yet. Boxing is not just about who can punch hard, there are also some psychological aspects that Ryan doesn't have as of the moment. Or we can say that he is still immature with all his social media antics.

[Theones]

He better admit to himself that he ain't that impressive on the said fight against Tagoe, and now he's calling Tank Davis? Is he really serious? He and his team was even afraid to take the fight against Pitbull, how much more if it's Kambosos or Davis. lol

I agree he is not convincing in his last fight against Tagoe, boxers are assessed based on their last fight and how they perform, Ryan can not have a performance like that and call out big names, this is the reason why his promoters opted for him to fight Fortuna, all he has to do is to knock out Fortuna show class and domination then he can call out the likes of Tank or Haney, but right now he should shut up train hard so he can give us a good fight where we can be impressed.

What an early hype for him calling someone who already proven their position now in this sport, like what you both said his last fight is not that impressive, fans may still back him up but he needs to bring something to catch more attentions, he should be focusing with his hard trainings to condition, and put some aggressiveness against Fortuna.

He should do the talk once he made his statement about his upcoming fight. It will surely bring the attention of those

fighters he wanted to fight next..

I am going to support Ryan - I like his speed and his punching technique.
Unfortunate for him that he is struggling with mental health - I think he is talented and smart - he can focus on his fitness and can live his dreams

[Distinctin]

He better admit to himself that he ain't that impressive on the said fight against Tagoe, and now he's calling Tank Davis? Is he really serious? He and his team was even afraid to take the fight against Pitbull, how much more if it's Kambosos or Davis. lol

I agree he is not convincing in his last fight against Tagoe, boxers are assessed based on their last fight and how they perform, Ryan can not have a performance like that and call out big names, this is the reason why his promoters opted for him to fight Fortuna, all he has to do is to knock out Fortuna show class and domination then he can call out the likes of Tank or Haney, but right now he should shut up train hard so he can give us a good fight where we can be impressed.

What an early hype for him calling someone who already proven their position now in this sport, like what you both said his last fight is not that impressive, fans may still back him up but he needs to bring something to catch more attentions, he should be focusing with his hard trainings to condition, and put some aggressiveness against Fortuna.

He should do the talk once he made his statement about his upcoming fight. It will surely bring the attention of those

fighters he wanted to fight next..

I am going to support Ryan - I like his speed and his punching technique.
Unfortunate for him that he is struggling with mental health - I think he is talented and smart - he can focus on his fitness and can live his dreams

If against Fortuna then I will also side with Ryan Garcia, the kid just needs some push to get him straight so that we can see him again fighting comfortably in the ring and his usual knockout punch. The thing is that he's more vocal these days even his actions doesn't speak well for him, he's challenging major players in the industry even though he's still struggling to get this rhythm back.

[stadus]

He better admit to himself that he ain't that impressive on the said fight against Tagoe, and now he's calling Tank Davis? Is he really serious? He and his team was even afraid to take the fight against Pitbull, how much more if it's Kambosos or Davis. lol

I agree he is not convincing in his last fight against Tagoe, boxers are assessed based on their last fight and how they perform, Ryan can not have a performance like that and call out big names, this is the reason why his promoters opted for him to fight Fortuna, all he has to do is to knock out Fortuna show class and domination then he can call out the likes of Tank or Haney, but right now he should shut up train hard so he can give us a good fight where we can be impressed.

Yes, but Ryan still wants to fight Tank Davis, hehehe, he went as far as talking to Leonard Ellerbe in the Davis vs Romero fight and saying f***ed Golden Boy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYHtTvOYAmg

But then again, we will have to wait for him to hurdle Fortuna first. He should do the talking inside the ring because I must admit the hype on Ryan is gone now. We have Davis and Haney as the top dog in this division. And we all know that Golden Boy doesn't want him to get closer with those names right now because he is not ready yet. Boxing is not just about who can punch hard, there are also some psychological aspects that Ryan doesn't have as of the moment. Or we can say that he is still immature with all his social media antics.

Ryan Garcia's time will come and he should be patient for the time being because he himself know that he is still not his usual condition, after those issues he got, he still needs to prove the fans and people that he is back. He have a shot now to prove himself again and that is defeating Javier Fortuna with an impressive ending, but if his performance was still the same as he fought Tagoe back, I'm afraid he will just add another easy win to Gervonta Davis and give a stain in his own record.

[Fredomago]

Ryan Garcia's time will come and he should be patient for the time being because he himself know that he is still not his usual condition, after those issues he got, he still needs to prove the fans and people that he is back. He have a shot now to prove himself again and that is defeating Javier Fortuna with an impressive ending, but if his performance was still the same as he fought Tagoe back, I'm afraid he will just add another easy win to Gervonta Davis and give a stain in his own record.

He has this momentum and winning more fights with amazing outcomes will bring more fans back to him, from that part he will soon receive recognitions from promoters and those people behind this sport, Garcia needs to work more he still young and still at his prime, if he makes his way smooth, the next thing to happen is to challenge another title holder and snatch that chance to win a fight..

This fight is another ticket for him to bring his name on top, step-by-step process slowly, but if he will keep on winning, there's no other thing but to be victorious again.

[virasisog]

Ryan Garcia's time will come and he should be patient for the time being because he himself know that he is still not his usual condition, after those issues he got, he still needs to prove the fans and people that he is back. He have a shot now to prove himself again and that is defeating Javier Fortuna with an impressive ending, but if his performance was still the same as he fought Tagoe back, I'm afraid he will just add another easy win to Gervonta Davis and give a stain in his own record.

He has this momentum and winning more fights with amazing outcomes will bring more fans back to him, from that part he will soon receive recognitions from promoters and those people behind this sport, Garcia needs to work more he still young and still at his prime, if he makes his way smooth, the next thing to happen is to challenge another title holder and snatch that chance to win a fight..

This fight is another ticket for him to bring his name on top, step-by-step process slowly, but if he will keep on winning, there's no other thing but to be victorious again.

I could feel that he will prove himself more in this fight. He's in the process of creating a big name in the industry and he shouldn't miss this chance to be victorious again. His previous matches were too challenging so I guess his losses will give him all the eagerness to be victorious this time. Ryan is young and could build up a strong name in the industry but he should show up his stamina in every fight.

[LUCKMCFLY]

My question is..... What excuse is Ryan Garcia going to come up to withdraw from this fight? We know he used "mental issues" and a "wrist injury" as an excuse... so there are not a lot else he can use for this fight.

I hope, if he decides to fight.. that he will be well prepared, because Javier Fortuna has got an explosive left paw and he swing like crazy, so if one or two of those swings goes home, Garcia is going to be in trouble.   

I am looking forward to this fight.... and my bet will go towards Javier Fortuna. 

Mental problems were the reason for Garcia to cancel the fight earlier, some media said that Garcia had a problem with severe anxiety disorders, but fortunately now the fight has officially been set july 19, indeed Fortune is a strong boxer but his long absence from boxing has certainly made his performance decline a bit now, besides the age factor might make me more confident that Garcia will win the fight by knockout in the third round, so far I have seen that Garcia is a boxer who is confident enough to face any opponent and certainly his fast and aggressive fighting style will certainly make his opponents cornered.

Well I just hope he hasn't used that as an excuse not to fight, because mental problems and mental health in athletes is a topic that is very fashionable, especially for women, but taking into account Fortuna's hunger to win It's incredible, and given that this whole scenario has developed like this, logic says that the best thing is to bet on Fortuna, because in the case of Ryan I don't know how well prepared he is to face this challenge, he has also been very out of shape, I don't know how demanding his training is at the moment, but the fight is close, and the odds point to Fortuna winning, of course this can change, suddenly we have an upset and Ryan gets a knockout, anything is possible.

[tippytoes]

My question is..... What excuse is Ryan Garcia going to come up to withdraw from this fight? We know he used "mental issues" and a "wrist injury" as an excuse... so there are not a lot else he can use for this fight.

I hope, if he decides to fight.. that he will be well prepared, because Javier Fortuna has got an explosive left paw and he swing like crazy, so if one or two of those swings goes home, Garcia is going to be in trouble.   

I am looking forward to this fight.... and my bet will go towards Javier Fortuna. 

Mental problems were the reason for Garcia to cancel the fight earlier, some media said that Garcia had a problem with severe anxiety disorders, but fortunately now the fight has officially been set july 19, indeed Fortune is a strong boxer but his long absence from boxing has certainly made his performance decline a bit now, besides the age factor might make me more confident that Garcia will win the fight by knockout in the third round, so far I have seen that Garcia is a boxer who is confident enough to face any opponent and certainly his fast and aggressive fighting style will certainly make his opponents cornered.

Well I just hope he hasn't used that as an excuse not to fight, because mental problems and mental health in athletes is a topic that is very fashionable, especially for women, but taking into account Fortuna's hunger to win It's incredible, and given that this whole scenario has developed like this, logic says that the best thing is to bet on Fortuna, because in the case of Ryan I don't know how well prepared he is to face this challenge, he has also been very out of shape, I don't know how demanding his training is at the moment, but the fight is close, and the odds point to Fortuna winning, of course this can change, suddenly we have an upset and Ryan gets a knockout, anything is possible.

Ryan's promoter, Golden Boy, won't choose Fortuna if they are not seeing advantage to their boxer. Remember, Golden Boy is grooming Garcia so for now, it seems they are cherry picking their opponents. But Fortuna, is not to be considered as weak opponent. If he is well-prepared on this one, he can easily beat Garcia. Both should be in their training grounds to prepare for this fight.

[Yaunfitda]

Ryan Garcia's time will come and he should be patient for the time being because he himself know that he is still not his usual condition, after those issues he got, he still needs to prove the fans and people that he is back. He have a shot now to prove himself again and that is defeating Javier Fortuna with an impressive ending, but if his performance was still the same as he fought Tagoe back, I'm afraid he will just add another easy win to Gervonta Davis and give a stain in his own record.

He has this momentum and winning more fights with amazing outcomes will bring more fans back to him, from that part he will soon receive recognitions from promoters and those people behind this sport, Garcia needs to work more he still young and still at his prime, if he makes his way smooth, the next thing to happen is to challenge another title holder and snatch that chance to win a fight..

This fight is another ticket for him to bring his name on top, step-by-step process slowly, but if he will keep on winning, there's no other thing but to be victorious again.

I could feel that he will prove himself more in this fight. He's in the process of creating a big name in the industry and he shouldn't miss this chance to be victorious again. His previous matches were too challenging so I guess his losses will give him all the eagerness to be victorious this time. Ryan is young and could build up a strong name in the industry but he should show up his stamina in every fight.

Yes, that's why he requested an immediate match for this year because maybe he is not satisfied with his Tagoe performance and wanted to prove to everyone that he is one of the best in this division. And then seeing Tank and Haney winning? Ryan could be brewing inside and wanted to fight either of those two. But he has to overcome Fortuna first and gain back his confidence so that he will still be relevant and can be a good challenger for Tank Davis and Devin Haney.

[TravelMug]

My question is..... What excuse is Ryan Garcia going to come up to withdraw from this fight? We know he used "mental issues" and a "wrist injury" as an excuse... so there are not a lot else he can use for this fight.

I hope, if he decides to fight.. that he will be well prepared, because Javier Fortuna has got an explosive left paw and he swing like crazy, so if one or two of those swings goes home, Garcia is going to be in trouble.   

I am looking forward to this fight.... and my bet will go towards Javier Fortuna. 

Mental problems were the reason for Garcia to cancel the fight earlier, some media said that Garcia had a problem with severe anxiety disorders, but fortunately now the fight has officially been set july 19, indeed Fortune is a strong boxer but his long absence from boxing has certainly made his performance decline a bit now, besides the age factor might make me more confident that Garcia will win the fight by knockout in the third round, so far I have seen that Garcia is a boxer who is confident enough to face any opponent and certainly his fast and aggressive fighting style will certainly make his opponents cornered.

Well I just hope he hasn't used that as an excuse not to fight, because mental problems and mental health in athletes is a topic that is very fashionable, especially for women, but taking into account Fortuna's hunger to win It's incredible, and given that this whole scenario has developed like this, logic says that the best thing is to bet on Fortuna, because in the case of Ryan I don't know how well prepared he is to face this challenge, he has also been very out of shape, I don't know how demanding his training is at the moment, but the fight is close, and the odds point to Fortuna winning, of course this can change, suddenly we have an upset and Ryan gets a knockout, anything is possible.

Ryan's promoter, Golden Boy, won't choose Fortuna if they are not seeing advantage to their boxer. Remember, Golden Boy is grooming Garcia so for now, it seems they are cherry picking their opponents. But Fortuna, is not to be considered as weak opponent. If he is well-prepared on this one, he can easily beat Garcia. Both should be in their training grounds to prepare for this fight.

Yes, actually he was their first choice prior to Ryan taking a break. Maybe they really know that Ryan can beat this guy. And now that he is available again and they don't want to risk Ryan fighting a guy name Isaac Cruz for a title eliminator, they go on a safest route for their cash cow. So no matter what Ryan says, he is still under Golden Boy and will be protected.

[aioc]

Ryan's promoter, Golden Boy, won't choose Fortuna if they are not seeing advantage to their boxer. Remember, Golden Boy is grooming Garcia so for now, it seems they are cherry picking their opponents. But Fortuna, is not to be considered as weak opponent. If he is well-prepared on this one, he can easily beat Garcia. Both should be in their training grounds to prepare for this fight.

Yes, actually he was their first choice prior to Ryan taking a break. Maybe they really know that Ryan can beat this guy. And now that he is available again and they don't want to risk Ryan fighting a guy name Isaac Cruz for a title eliminator, they go on a safest route for their cash cow. So no matter what Ryan says, he is still under Golden Boy and will be protected.

It adds reputation to any boxer's career if he beats a former champion, and Fortuna happens to be a two-time champion, but of course, Fortuna is not on the caliber of Haney and Gervonta Davis, if Jojo Diaz Jr. can beat him why not Ryan Garcia who is a much better fighter, but of course, there's a possibility of an upset, if upset happen this will make a huge disrupt on Ryan Garcia's career he is better off to be an Instagram king than a boxing champion.

[yazher]

I am going to support Ryan - I like his speed and his punching technique.
Unfortunate for him that he is struggling with mental health - I think he is talented and smart - he can focus on his fitness and can live his dreams

I like his confidence and boxing skills too, you cannot compare him to anyone because the guy is still young and have lots of room for improvement. After this fight, I hope he will have his time to shine against a worthy opponent as well. We also need to see him struggling in his practice to level up and beat his strong opponents. He needs to fight someone who is a threat to his current record so that he will gonna further stretch his kills to the max and upgrade his power and speed to outmatch his next opponents until he became an undisputed champion himself.

[erep]

He needs to fight someone who is a threat to his current record so that he will gonna further stretch his kills to the max and upgrade his power and speed to outmatch his next opponents until he became an undisputed champion himself.

Ryan Gracia undisputed championship record will be further improved if Ryan can win a KO from the boxing fight against Fortuna, Fortuna record is also very strong with a record 26 KO wins throughout his career. So Ryan must go through boxing matches without losing or drawing, because I believe he is optimistic that he can win that fight.

[stadus]

Ryan Garcia's time will come and he should be patient for the time being because he himself know that he is still not his usual condition, after those issues he got, he still needs to prove the fans and people that he is back. He have a shot now to prove himself again and that is defeating Javier Fortuna with an impressive ending, but if his performance was still the same as he fought Tagoe back, I'm afraid he will just add another easy win to Gervonta Davis and give a stain in his own record.

He has this momentum and winning more fights with amazing outcomes will bring more fans back to him, from that part he will soon receive recognitions from promoters and those people behind this sport, Garcia needs to work more he still young and still at his prime, if he makes his way smooth, the next thing to happen is to challenge another title holder and snatch that chance to win a fight..

This fight is another ticket for him to bring his name on top, step-by-step process slowly, but if he will keep on winning, there's no other thing but to be victorious again.

I agree with that! I really think that it's still too soon for him to face Tank Davis, given his condition and performance now, the latter won't have a hard time defeating him and worse is that Garcia's first lose is by a KO or TKO. He surely doesn't want that though that's why he needs to be more patient when chasing titles and having these kind of fights will help him to be more experienced. He's still young but his days are also running, it's just bad seeing him in his current state when he started really strong.

[bitzizzix]

He needs to fight someone who is a threat to his current record so that he will gonna further stretch his kills to the max and upgrade his power and speed to outmatch his next opponents until he became an undisputed champion himself.

Ryan Gracia undisputed championship record will be further improved if Ryan can win a KO from the boxing fight against Fortuna, Fortuna record is also very strong with a record 26 KO wins throughout his career. So Ryan must go through boxing matches without losing or drawing, because I believe he is optimistic that he can win that fight.

I also think so, Ryan Garcia must maintain his record as a boxer who always wins by knockout against his enemy.
Ryan Garcia is a great hitter and very fast, and at his young age he can stop some top boxers with his punching speed and I'm also optimistic he can beat Javier Fortuna by knockout.
but to say the greatest boxer of all time, I mean impossible, he just started his career but it is possible and depends.