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June 10, 2022, 11:54:49 AM
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When you type in a correct/valid number, it'll show you the rates beneath the number [not sure if it was added recently].
I just tested this and I can confirm that you are right, but rates are a bit higher than I expected for calls in Europe, maybe because server and everything else is based in United States.

This is actually the way my old service worked, and I think this is OK as long as it is clearly stated. Either that, or I could add meta mask support, which will give a more anonymous signup. I have thought about both of these options, which one do you think I should prioritise?
I don't want to use anything like this that is connected with metamask wallet, so temporary sign-up would be just fine.
Maybe you can create something like Chipmixer website is using with their Session Token that is used to restore last session.
I don't have anything against normal sign-up registration as long as I don't have to use email addresses or real phone numbers.

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June 10, 2022, 12:12:48 PM
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2) You need to have a 'test call' option.
It seems that it already has that option [you just have to dial "801" and it doesn't require having an account].

Missed that with it not being on the 1st page / main page. My bad.
Did a test and it did work, going to try it at a location behind a sonicwall and see if it functions. Some services do work others do not. We have never been able to figure out why and neither has sonicwall. Never cared that much since what they need to use works, but it's been my test to see how other services handle oddball configurations.

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June 11, 2022, 05:14:52 AM
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I just tested this and I can confirm that you are right, but rates are a bit higher than I expected for calls in Europe, maybe because server and everything else is based in United States.
Well it is mainly because the operator I use for the trunking of the calls is an American company. This in combination with the EU roaming regulations from 2016 which makes calls within EU cheap, which in turn made the telcos charge more from calls from outside the EU. The solution would be to use a European company to trunk the calls, and there is no reason why I can't have several and chose the one that is cheaper for each call. I have a European one too, but I haven't been able to get my PBX software to work with that one yet. I will investigate this, to my defence I'll say that I think configuring VoIP servers and getting stuff to interoperate is way more complicated than it should be... Smiley

I don't want to use anything like this that is connected with metamask wallet, so temporary sign-up would be just fine.
Maybe you can create something like Chipmixer website is using with their Session Token that is used to restore last session.
Alright! Temporary signup it will be... The session token is also a good idea.

I don't have anything against normal sign-up registration as long as I don't have to use email addresses or real phone numbers.
Hm, but if the signup doesn't use email or phone number, what would you be using? You mean signup with username and password (but no email)?
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June 30, 2022, 10:00:07 PM
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1. Pay some bitcoin to an address (or in this day and age, why not lightning network).
2. Cal any international phone number using WebRTC directly from your browser.

This is something absolutely new to me, and I think its a great idea, this is absolutely a unique concept and the fact that the calls are untraceable makes it even more amazing, But then, there has to be way to really verify that the calls are truly untraceable since if anybody is going to be trying this out, that would be one of the major reasons.

This also is my idea on further development of this project.
1. I think its worth giving it a try, it is an idea that i think would go places if its properly developed, you can have it as a side project which you work on on your spare time.
2. You should also have this on your roadmap, to develop the project into a simple mobile and desktop app simply for convenience, not everybody would want to keep visiting the website any time the need for this service arises, so having a mobile and desktop app will really help in encouraging people to use this service.

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January 27, 2023, 07:29:54 AM
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Well, now that we have determined that the aim of the project are not to make the phone call untraceable... but rather to make the payment for the call untraceable, we need to dive into that.  Wink

You need to educate the users on the correct methods to have pseudo anonymity for their transactions with Bitcoin... or this whole idea will be useless. (People should not re-use Bitcoin addresses or make payments via Exchanges or 3rd party wallets etc... so these things needs to be added as a "How to" guide on your site.)

Good luck with your project... it has some legal advantages.  Wink

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January 08, 2024, 07:08:38 AM
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If it's cheaper than any other options out there to call someone internationally then yes I think that it should be created and I think that this is a really good thing for many reasons especially for those that are trying to go off the grid but still have some phone calls to make, they're going to be your no. 1 customer. You're creating a service that provides privacy to someone so I think that this is always a good idea here in the forum.

The concept of global untraceable calls might sound enticing, but it's crucial to tread cautiously. Privacy matters, but with evolving tech, absolute anonymity can be tricky. Services claiming full invisibility might not always deliver.
Of course everyone should be careful but in this kind of service, it's the people that's responsible on how good it would be used and not the service itself, look at the Internet and the World Wide Web, it's creators didn't wish for all this gore and porn and everything deplorable online, it's the people that's using it that's created them, totally agree with your concern about false advertising though, I'm sure that it's a difficult thing to do but for me, we just have to trust them as a business, all it takes is just one time for them to prove that they're lying and you can just not use their service anymore but that thing only applies to some services, some services you really need that they're telling the truth.



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