Stake and primedice are the worst gambling sites

[dragonmega]

Before everyone responds to the thread.

Opened the @OP account and see the negative trust, @OP has been tag by doing a clown activity (Spamming a casino business, even there has no proof at all). So, he attacking not only "Stake" but also other casino without any single proof or his activity playing in the casino.

Best advice for people, not really take serious the thread.

Says the guy using a gambling site as profile picture  

Wheres your proof to refutate OP allegations?

I am wearing a stake signature so I expect you to attack me, but why are you making it a point to answer everyone instead of the OP? Are you an alt of the OP? I'm just curious, it's not illegal if you are.

It also makes me think that maybe this is an alt account of OP. Op using a new account and is taking his support with it because secondly there are no people here to speak for him.

Op Registered his Account (May 20, 2016) and dragonmega Registered his Account (June 21, 2016) The time difference between the two is only one month. Op created this thread today On the other hand dragonmega started post from today where he/she Registered his account 6 year ago from today. This is really something to think about

So, just gather information to subsidize your accusations. Go talk to a administrador.

Differently from Stake, this forum archieve tangible informations, so you have the ways to confirm that.

[dragonmega]

Why are people hyping these useless sites when these sh*t things they do are obvious.

Maybe they're putting money at stake here for them to be known? We are free to speculate on that but we can't get individuals rights to play there just because you don't like it. Maybe people doesn't see what you see on Stake and PD on what are worst on you and for them it's not, we all have different perspective.

If these people know and fine with having no loss back, let them be, it's their choice. You do your own research and it's for them to be aware on it or do the same as you do, you can't control them or these casinos may control some individuals. That's the fact.

*Almost perfect.

Just lmk ask, for being known by who? Stake? A website which the only goal is to take all your money? xD

Just a note: almost all high rollers have "private profiles". I havent never seen a race winner with public profile and/or statistics.

So you're saying that to all online casinos, since they are profitable as always since they're taking money to users? So you're not attacking Stake here but all casinos? Provide me a casino site that doesn't have the goal to take a money or profits, literally they're at loss.

What's your claim that because they're having private profiles for race winner, that it's all just fake? You ever thought that those race winners are huge whales that doesn't want their names to be known? Fine, you're on your echo chamber, you wouldn't trust any statements from others. 👋

I would not have any problems with "big whales" on stake if they where transparent about where the money is going.

I dont want to know a name or anything like that, i just want to know that i'm not being robbed. How they will do it? Only god can tell. Otherwise they can just sonegate taxes all the way saying "whales" won big amounts in their site.

And i dont agree with fucking taxes, its just a example of how a site like that would contribute negatively to society.

Ofc all sites operate for profit, but enterprises have transparency, you can sue them if you want, and they will you show you proof. Stake will not.

Even in a libertarian society this kind of act would not be supported, this would be repressed until transparency would take place (or not, its just supositions). Dont take my comment as salty, please, i'm just trying to build an argument. If we people accept this kind of acting, everything will be acceptable in the future.

If you accept this kind of act, you can be the next one. Remember that.

Yes, that's the point. Stake will not show proof unless there's some way others may do it or they will at their own volition, that's the end of the argument. My comment wasn't that salty too, you can take it as more neutral, I'm not attacking nor defending them.

If you're not happy that they aren't that transparent, you can still find other casinos that still do or your preferred one. I'm not accepting anything to be honest, I'm just into facts that this has been raised by other users in the past, not just for Stake and PD but on other  online casinos that still exists today.

Thats supporting shady operations, buddy.

The only moment that they will be transparent about their business is when people dont accept to use it otherwise. Thats the point of my posts, i think people deserve to know how the service that they are or expect to use act normally.

And thats also how that things can start to change. Its not because they are at the top they cant be criticized.

[Wiwo]

Calling out a casino for using a fake bot on their casino and tempering with the game outcome as good as calling an exchange for using fake trading volume, is a criminal offense, and to say stake and primedice are involved in this practice is not good of empty accusations most especially when you don't present any evidence to back up your claims.

[Stunna]

 I don't really understand the point of this thread or how this is productive.

It's fine that you don't like our websites, but you have no proof of any wrongdoing and have been posting this about every gambling site here for the past 6-7 years.

Welcome back to bitcointalk!

[Jawhead999]

Everyone should stop feeding this troll, he will call every casino is scam as been stated on his trust feedback. There's no reason why we should trust his words, more over he didn't bring any proof with his accusations. Previously there's an user attacking bitsler and recommending stake for high roller due to their worthy bonus, now stake got attack  from this user and complaining they're using fake provably fair.

1. Claims that every bitcoin gambling site is a scam and "rigged" - which is stupid if you know how provably fair works. Therefor I wouldn't trust his judgment at all.

2. More importantly he is trying to blackmail the gambling sites that he calls a scam - see reference ( https://i.imgur.com/ToT8Llb.png )

I would not trust him for anything.

[RichGang]

Everyone should stop feeding this troll, he will call every casino is scam as been stated on his trust feedback. There's no reason why we should trust his words, more over he didn't bring any proof with his accusations. Previously there's an user attacking bitsler and recommending stake for high roller due to their worthy bonus, now stake got attack  from this user and complaining they're using fake provably fair.

1. Claims that every bitcoin gambling site is a scam and "rigged" - which is stupid if you know how provably fair works. Therefor I wouldn't trust his judgment at all.

2. More importantly he is trying to blackmail the gambling sites that he calls a scam - see reference ( https://i.imgur.com/ToT8Llb.png )

I would not trust him for anything.

the scammer you quoted is Dean Nolan of betking he scammed people of millions of dollars,.I pointed it out and numbskulls like u supported him. So fuck that feedback. I still stand on what I Said. The high rollers on stake are fake

[RichGang]

I don't really understand the point of this thread or how this is productive.

It's fine that you don't like our websites, but you have no proof of any wrongdoing and have been posting this about every gambling site here for the past 6-7 years.

Welcome back to bitcointalk!

I don't post about all gambling sites , I post about shitty and shady ones. I have played on wolf , bc game etc and I said nothing ill about them. Your site is shaddy the high rollers are fake, no loss backs etc etc. I don't know why people play there .
I posted about betkng and it turned out he was a scammer just as I said

[dothebeats]

Been playing in PrimeDice for years. I understand that the lack of 'generous' bonuses may not be enticing to a lot of people, but that doesn't mean that this platform is scamming you just because it doesn't give you handouts for losing your money. You need to provide evidence of the fake leaderboards and high rollers. Some of those high rollers in PD I've managed to get a hold of, and even shared actual proofs of their deposits and withdrawals. Idk where you're coming from, but it seems that you only want attention, or to tarnish the reputation these platforms made for themselves over the years. There were some issues here and there, but they managed to fix those and still operate today.

[Maslate]

Based on your personal experience they maybe are the worst, but the majority believe that stake is a good gambling site. In fact, they are a multi-million dollar company that can afford to have partnerships in major sports.

This one for example.
https://stake.com/sponsorships/inoue

[Pandu Geddon]

Based on your personal experience they maybe are the worst, but the majority believe that stake is a good gambling site.

maybe the OP has experience of losing quite a lot of money when playing gambling. I guess it hit him hard on the head and made him cry for the win and get rich quickly.

Why are people hyping these useless sites when these sh*t things they do are obvious.

@RichGang, you're just telling a story. If you don't want to be harmed in a gambling game, then don't enter a gambling site. if you are not mentally strong, it will only make you depressed.

[Shamm]

OP I think you are wrong cause based on my research stake is one of the best gambling sites, their services still good and okay and on your situation maybe you loss a lot and that's the reason why you are making this thread. OP you should remember that in the gambling world sometimes win sometimes loss we can not predict so we should gamble what wee are afford to loss. OP if you loss the. It's normal thing don't panic it's okay.

[ryzaadit]

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Did you see the other feedback.

In the front face, you are telling them a scam but behind the desk you pm and blackmailing them to pay you 0.2 BTC otherwise you keep spamming the scam. That's the most hypocrite tactics I ever seen~LOL

That's one of the proof, you are using a spamming "scam" tactics and then will try to blackmailing them ~LOL. BetKing is a scam, yes nothing doubt but what you did by blackmailing them while you telling everybody they are scammer in front of your face make you just like the same with them ~LOL.

[Mahdirakib]

Stake team is moderating their bonuses. A lot of gamblers aren't satisfied with those changes, but still the bonuses are worth there. Do you have any complain against their game? If you think that the games are manipulated then show the proof. I have seen your several posts in Primedice ANN thread. You were always complaining against Primedice services without any valid reason.

1. They do not give you loss back.

Both Primedice and Stake give lossback, but they don't mention it as lossback. If you have VIP host then you will receive extra amount from reload for your weekly losses.

[fiulpro]

The thing is, what you are saying must be backed by evidence and if it's not then it's not going to be taken seriously at all, therefore I do realize that you might not have good experience with these sites but personally for me stake never had any problems for sure and at the same time you can always go on their thread and see if people were having some similar issues as well, I have not used prime dice that often so I cannot say anything about them but I do think it would be beneficial for both you and as the site itself to exchange the thoughts, discuss the probelms publicly. You also have spam thread to post regarding any problems there.

[panjul07]

I think this OP needs to have a debate against one user in this forum namely "badlcukasalways" IIRC.
badluckasalways is fanatic supporter of Stake and spread hates against other casino and say that Stake is the best casino ever.
It would be nice to see a debate between hater and supporter
I'm trying to be always neutral when there is a case like this, at least I will always say based my own experience in the casino.
This kind of disappointment will always exist because no site can fulfill all their players want, players has their own preferences, favorite things, etc and we (as players) cant force the casino to give what is wanted by all players.

[MrcMrc]

I think this will be an unbelievable thing to most members of this forum, as both casinos have a high reputation here and to large extent can not use bots of the sites.
Let's wait to see what evidence the ops will present to us next.

[OgNasty]

I still don't know why people are making stake and pd look like the best dice sites when they are actually the worst.
1. They do not give you loss back.

2. The top high rollers are fake meaning you will never win first place Or the fake lotteries.

Why are people hyping these useless sites when these sh*t things they do are obvious.

I'm not sure how good of a take this is.  If you're mad at every casino that doesn't give you back your losses I have some real hard news that you might want to hear...  Casinos are in the business of taking your money, not refunding it if you lose...

High rollers aren't easy to be.  Most of them have too much money and gamble for the rush.  Regular people might see their activity and think it might be fake, but some people just have too much money.  It's really that simple.  I don't see any reason why Stake would need to fake volumes when they have people streaming multimillion dollar gambling sessions...

[MrcMrc]

This user already has a reputation for making accusations against many casinos which is why I will not be taking this attack at stake seriously.  But coming to think of it of what gain will it be for a user to decide just to attack others businesses such as casino that requires alot of trust.

[nakamura12]

Maype op is paid to do this which is to give a Gambling site a bad name. A gambling site like casinos are not scam just because you gambled there and lose. Gambling is always like that where you won't win all the time since it is base on luck and no matter what strategy you use you always lose. You can say that those two gambling sites are worst because they didn't have much bonuses or loss back as you have said then so be it since it's your opinion. Take note, I don't side with the said gambling sites or being paid because I am just here to say my opinion.

[Doell]

Give loss back ? there is a daily and weekly bonus depending on your VIP level, if you want Loss back, then my answer that is no casino provides a guarantee of any give loss back  .
You can't accuse if there isn't some kind of evidence to substantiate your statement, the wagering competition is clearly fair, you can't measure the big gamblers who are active at there. Rare for a big gambler to show up their name, privacy concerns too.