The EU economy is going down the drain...and the EU with it

[gweb1996]

The EU economy is going down the drain...


Why ? I am trying to start a start up and no matter what i do ,there is always a EU regulation that is fu...king up the plan .

Let's say you want to produce simple packaged wheat flour ...

1.You got to read a bunch of EU laws + national laws + local laws that will drive you crazy and you still need a few lawyers to send you on the right path .... This is EU tax 1
2.You got to set up shop and read  a bunch of EU laws + national laws + local laws  and pay some rent,fees,taxes for things that has 0 use  .... This is EU tax 2
3.You want to produce ? you read  a bunch of EU laws + national laws + local laws pay a lab to analyze your product ,pay fees,taxes for things that has 0 use  .... This is EU tax 3
4. Almost forgot about environment tasks ...lets not forget the save Ukraine,LGBT,imigrants and environment tax...
Beside the other normal stuff...that biz pay or do ...The EU is a birocratic nightmare for small start ups .

The EU will brake up very soon ...

[davis196]

Do you think that the American bureaucracy is better? Or the Chinese, Japanese or Russian?
AFAIK, the national legislation of the EU members is synchronized with the European rules and regulations, so there's no need to for a small business owner to check out both the national and the EU laws. I can't stand the European bureaucrats, but this isn't a reason for the EU to collapse. Is the EU guilty for many countries having their own shitty local and national laws and regulations? I don't think so.
Are you facing difficulties with your own small business?

[Moneyprism]

it is true that in the current situation many countries are experiencing difficulties in their economy, and that cannot be separated from developed countries like Europe .. but with the increasingly complex problems in the EU, I don't think this will be the reason the EU will break up .. because different than before, the EU is now more solid and its members have felt a very good impact with this organization

[gweb1996]

Do you think that the American bureaucracy is better? Or the Chinese, Japanese or Russian?
AFAIK, the national legislation of the EU members is synchronized with the European rules and regulations, so there's no need to for a small business owner to check out both the national and the EU laws. I can't stand the European bureaucrats, but this isn't a reason for the EU to collapse. Is the EU guilty for many countries having their own shitty local and national laws and regulations? I don't think so.
Are you facing difficulties with your own small business?

Your not looking in the right direction look at India , Pakistan etc ...

If i do what the indians do in this video in Europe i get shut down the next day for sure ... Here is the catch , i  got to respect all the EU laws , pay the EU etc ...the indian dude makes a company  in EU ,he imports his product without tariff,import tax etc same as Ukraine,Moldavia,Georgia etc etc ,they can label their product how ever they want ...they don't care ... then you see in the Supermarket 1 kg fish  "Made in EU"  at "4  EUR" and another kg fish "Made in EU" "4.5 EUR"...guess how the EU fu..cked ? the EU producer ...

If the EU producer can't sell say good bye to your job as it will go bankrupt...no matter what EU funds gives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rId67Bq1yIk

[Flexystar]

I don’t think this any different from legislation’s around the world. You have to pay to every government whether it’s state or national. The tax slots might be different throughout the world for every commodity but it’s nothing like it’s zero in one country and hundred in other country. Whether it’s USA, EU or Asia or any other continent the respective government will define such tax regulations because that’s what helps improve the nation and boost the development. That does not make the EU go down the sink, that makes its development and yes stress is on us as tax payer but we benefit too.

[bitgolden]

I have to say, it is not really shocking that Europe is not doing well, but at the same time we can't say that other nations are doing magnificently well neither. We are talking about how EU is doing terrible right now like that is not a global problem, it is not just an EU problem.

Sure, they are known to come out of these things usually without harm, and that is something I would have expected them to do again, but at this point I doubt that it would be similar at all, it would be smarter to let them be instead. Maybe in a few years, they would be doing much better, who knows? This is why it would be smarter to just wait and see how they are doing.

[kryptqnick]

If it's hard starting a business in the EU due to legal things, it doesn't automatically mean that the EU economy is going down the drain (or, if it is, it's not necessarily due to difficulties with business). Perhaps what's hard about it to you is that you try to do it yourself and many probably hire a professional to do it for them (or to give them advice, at least). Also, I might be wrong but I thought taxes were quite different in various countries within the EU, and the amount of resources various EU countries spend on Ukraine, migrants and tolerance are certainly very different.

[palle11]

I think one of the reasons that small businesses are finding it difficult could be the issue of tax levy. The Europe economy is based on taxation and this is a big challenge that makes an individual find it difficult for entrepreneurship but nevertheless the government takes care of rural amenities. Europe however knows how to do bailout for each other in the case of economic crisis but that is still not the case.

[naira]

The funny thing is that you are talking about one fish in the vast ocean.

The description of the problem The law you embed does not mean that the EU is failing in running its economy. Talking micro business and you seem to understand the overall context of how the production system of one product with other goods.

Based on your complaint it may be better for you to take the funding provided by the EU government. You can see several ways and categories of anyone who can get funding below:

The EU has several different funding programmes that you may be able to apply for, depending on the nature of your business or project. There are two different types:  direct funding and indirect funding.

Direct funding
The allocation of direct funding capital is managed by the European Institutions. There are two types of funding available: grants and contracts. You can apply for grants and contracts managed by the European Commission on the Funding and Tenders portal.

Grants
Grants are given to specific projects that relate to EU policies, usually following a public announcement known as a call for proposals.

Who is eligible?
You may apply for a grant if you run a business or a related organisation (business associations, business support providers, consultants, etc.) that runs projects that further the interests of the EU, or if you contribute to the implementation of an EU programme or policy.

Contracts
Contracts are issued by EU institutions to buy services, goods or works that they need for their operations – such as studies, training, conference organisation or IT equipment.

Indirect funding
Indirect funding is managed by national and regional authorities and comprises nearly 80% of the EU budget, mainly through 5 big funds that come under the umbrella of the European Structural and Investment Funds.

The funds are:

European Regional Development Fund – regional and urban development
European Social Fund – social inclusion and good governance
Cohesion Fund – economic convergence by less-developed regions
European Agricultural Fund for Rural Development
European Maritime and Fisheries Fund

source : EU funding programmes

If in the end, you keep complaining about this and that, it means that the problem lies with you who do not like a state policy to carry out economic growth.

[Coyster]

I am not from Europe, but i understand the problem to be a near universal one, small businesses (microeconomics) always struggle to get going at the beginning, either due to lack of funding/tax laws, etc, but it does not mean you can't still run your business in the midst of all this challenges. In fact, starting a business is always difficult, weathering the initial storm is what determines the level of success in the long run.

Having said that, maybe you could move/relocate your business to areas that have less stringent laws/problems that directly affect your business, you could also seek funding/loans to get you started, and to solve some of the problems you are currently facing; mind you also that all of those laws have and serve a purpose, it might be a pain in the ass for you, but it does, you should seek professional advice and take a decison whether to go on with your business plan/idea or not.