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As we all know the BTC narrative is that it is protection against inflationary FIAT currencies worldwide. Granted since it's inception inflation has not been spiraling out of control but it sure is now!
It is puzzling to me that the bulls are not stepping in scooping up more BTC at this price. Is it because no one wants to go first? I would have thought there would be some coordination between a few of them it will start the mother of all bull cycles but it seems no one is prepared to get the ball rolling.
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We assumed that if there will be a time when the economy would be experiencing a good level of inflation then more and more people and institutions would be getting BTC as their hedge or protection from the ill-effects of inflationary pressures...but right now when inflation is very much on our faces how come BTC is so sluggish? Frankly speaking, am confused too and I want to know the real scope in here. Can it be because investors are looking for the possibility that BTC will further go down in value...may even going down below the $20K threshold? Or maybe we are just so assumptive with this idea...?
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June 10, 2022, 03:42:23 PM |
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I would have thought there would be some coordination between a few of them it will start the mother of all bull cycles but it seems no one is prepared to get the ball rolling.
Should bear market cycles wait for confirmation to drop in price? the value of the entire Bitcoin market is already high, and of course, there is no need for confirmation from everyone to be on standby to decide the market. Bitcoins are held individually demand and supply in the market are based on relatively unpredictable cycles. What do you mean there should be some coordination? could the popes form a group and drop the price together?
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June 10, 2022, 04:12:29 PM |
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"What do you mean there should be some coordination? could the popes form a group and drop the price together?"
What I was getting at is I am sure alot of the really big whales talk to each other. I should have probably said "there could be some coordination"
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June 10, 2022, 04:21:55 PM |
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It is puzzling to me that the bulls are not stepping in scooping up more BTC at this price. Is it because no one wants to go first? I would have thought there would be some coordination between a few of them it will start the mother of all bull cycles but it seems no one is prepared to get the ball rolling.
The problem is that you are not seeing the whole picture. There is a war happening in Russia/Ukraine, which generates a lot of fear and bear market all over the world. Additionally, FED is raising interest rates, which takes money away from risk assets (such as btc and stock market). The timing is not good for the bulls to trigger a bull run. Investing and holding is about patience.
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June 10, 2022, 04:52:39 PM |
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It is puzzling to me that the bulls are not stepping in scooping up more BTC at this price. Is it because no one wants to go first? I would have thought there would be some coordination between a few of them it will start the mother of all bull cycles but it seems no one is prepared to get the ball rolling. Do you know these whales yourself? I can answer that for you that you dont. This is because bulls and whales are only terms created by those observing the market. If you look into the charts you may not get the complete picture. Often there is a selling vs buying pressure difference that is close to zero and the market remains stagnant but the daily trading volume rises. Only if this balance gets toppled to once side do we see the bull/bear move. This is more like being in the sidelines which the actual wrestling is happening in the ring and therefore is easy to comment but to not know the fact. A number of reasons are behind the current bear market. Unless there is a resolution of those or starting of new positive news, a bigger move is difficult to start. Just in case you are getting tired of the bearish trend, take a break from the market, it often helps instead of complaining.
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June 10, 2022, 05:00:44 PM |
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Whales, big bosses, richie's whatever you call them, they are they because of their on going strategies to build the empire. They don't care if the two countries are at war somewhere at the corner of earth. All they care is to maintain their wealth and how to expand it further. So on scale of 1 to 10, they gate 11 points as to be involved with the current opportunity takers. If anything is getting bought in the bearish market then its going into the whales wallet.
They know the importance of buying at bearish, they have the capabilities to do so because they have the ready funds to risk. They are taking risks, because they make money from their money. They don't look for congested timelines but bigger scale, two to three years of planning altogether. Definitely the bulls will take advantage. Inflation is for poors and middle classes, not the riches.
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June 10, 2022, 05:20:16 PM |
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"What do you mean there should be some coordination? could the popes form a group and drop the price together?"
What I was getting at is I am sure alot of the really big whales talk to each other. I should have probably said "there could be some coordination"
Even if we call them whales this does not mean they are an uniform group with the exact same goals, besides whales are experts at taking advantage of the market sentiment, right now such sentiment is bearish so they are not going to waste their time trying to force it into a bullish state, you can be sure the whales are buying like crazy but they are doing this while being hidden from public view, only when the circumstances are right and they have filled their bags they will reveal what they have been doing.
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What I was getting at is I am sure alot of the really big whales talk to each other. I should have probably said "there could be some coordination" No, they probably won't coordinate on this, while I'm sure they also want an advantage in the end. You cannot expect two large institutions that have held large amounts of bitcoin to coordinate with each other to hold bitcoins forever without spending them in a bull market. They also aim to make a profit but may exit gradually when the target is reached. The rules of the game are the same, so trust the community and never think that only whales can help you with this.
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June 10, 2022, 05:51:18 PM |
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As we all know the BTC narrative is that it is protection against inflationary FIAT currencies worldwide. Granted since it's inception inflation has not been spiraling out of control but it sure is now!
It is puzzling to me that the bulls are not stepping in scooping up more BTC at this price. Is it because no one wants to go first? I would have thought there would be some coordination between a few of them it will start the mother of all bull cycles but it seems no one is prepared to get the ball rolling.
Maybe yes, i was just reading a post today some time back which stated that how market fell after the recent inflation report from Fed. But it's equally ironic to think that people might use bitcoin as a hedge against inflation. Why would you want to risk 30-40% of your capital just to beat 7-8% of inflation each year? Doesn't makes any sense at all to me atleast, if someone wants to actually invest in bitcoin only then he will bring his money in not to beat 6-7% inflation.
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June 10, 2022, 06:32:59 PM |
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You cannot predict their moves maybe they are waiting for people to panic and sell, when the price is stable for a while they would eventually try and see how it might make things weird for people, people eventually will try and move to some other markets and trade their coins and the price will go down low even further and with the fed news, Russian problems, market inflation it's all getting a bit too risky and therefore they might not be trying to peg their money on bitcoins or any other volatile currency at the moment, but again we are seeing ups and downs in a day which can be excellent for interday trading, therefore don't give up and hold your coins ! It would be worth it.
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June 10, 2022, 07:22:45 PM |
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If the price is right for you, just buy, hold and wait, one thing I've come to discover is that we don't usually experience bullish trend of the market when every one is expecting it, it comes when every one least expect it, in 2017, it came when investors least expected, it also happened in 2020/2021, the bull market came when investors least expected. Right now, alot of investors are eagerly waiting in anticipation for the return of the green candles, am of the opinion that it wont happen now, so you if have the money to invest, and this price is good for you , then just buy, hold and wait patiently, it will payoff on the long run.
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June 10, 2022, 07:34:02 PM |
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The price is potentially being suppressed by whales at the current time. They will allow us to fly up when the time is right. They are eating all the cheap coins up. No significant epic green candles & ath until after the next block reward halving.
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June 10, 2022, 07:40:27 PM |
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It could be that the bulls are waiting for the market to calm down. Its either they know the price could still dive near $25k or just wait til there is a real trend of the market. The market is still in bear, it back to where it was after the capitulation last week. It does look bullish last week but its dragged down again.
After ETH upgrade, the bulls doesn't even care which billions are taken in and out of the whole crypto market every hour.
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June 10, 2022, 08:15:25 PM |
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When bad times hit, cash proves itself to be King. Weak men acted in fear and the bad times are coming. Yellen can say there's plenty of reason to be optimistic just like she said there wouldn't be inflation. Don't be fooled though. Governments are the ones orchestrating this coming recession. They are going to bring pain on the people until the people realize they need dollars and have to continue working for them. Small businesses are in the process of being destroyed and the government won't stop until there are calls for universal income. If you still don't get it, the government wants tax receipt stability. The sheep all need to grow wool at the same rate so they can be easily sheered. Get in line or get prepared.
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June 10, 2022, 08:38:13 PM |
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We assumed that if there will be a time when the economy would be experiencing a good level of inflation then more and more people and institutions would be getting BTC as their hedge or protection from the ill-effects of inflationary pressures...but right now when inflation is very much on our faces how come BTC is so sluggish? Frankly speaking, am confused too and I want to know the real scope in here. Can it be because investors are looking for the possibility that BTC will further go down in value...may even going down below the $20K threshold? Or maybe we are just so assumptive with this idea...?
Want to about of investor's having interest on the market of cryptocurrency going down, any investor will like the condition of bitcoin going down every time because they want to make profit and their profit reply for the bearish season as opportunity to buy many coins they want to buy and keep for when the bitcoin will get rise, so let us not talk of inflation because some people inflation for cryptocurrency world favor them and some people too get lost
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What I was getting at is I am sure alot of the really big whales talk to each other. I should have probably said "there could be some coordination"
It is definitely true that the whales can manipulate the market, but bitcoin marketcap of over $500 billion should be hard to manipulate, unlike altcoins with low marketcap. What I just think about this which I believe it is more accurate is that there is time for bull market and there is also time for bear market. You can see that from each 4 years after bitcoin halves. After bitcoin halves, it would be followed by bull market for many months to the extent all-time-high is reached. After, bear market followed. Taken 2016/2017 bull market that corresponds to the bull market of 2021/2022, 2018 was bear market which is corresponding to what is happening in 2022. People are following period to buy and sell bitcoin massively which may become what is happening without whales involved.
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June 11, 2022, 01:36:59 PM |
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Things are getting more uncertain these days. There's conflict somewhere which could escalate further. The prices of goods and services are rising to all new levels. Fiat currencies are continuously devalued. The pandemic is still present. Production costs rise. Supply chains disrupted. People need more money today than ever.
Still, it's just a matter of time before the bull run that we've all been waiting for will happen. For now, just keep your patience and HODL. Buy more if you have some extra savings. This is buying season. There will come a time in the near future when we'll look back to this day and wish we've bought more. In these trying times, the call to take refuge in Bitcoin is strong.
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June 11, 2022, 02:33:49 PM |
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It is puzzling to me that the bulls are not stepping in scooping up more BTC at this price.
Don't be surprised and confused by it, zoom out the charts and look from 2018-2020 and then 2020-2022. We're far from the first three years that I've mentioned. We just came from a bull run and it's not going to be there forever. So what we're having right now is all about the market's correction which is necessary. Is it because no one wants to go first? I would have thought there would be some coordination between a few of them it will start the mother of all bull cycles but it seems no one is prepared to get the ball rolling.
It's better for you to look forward to or after the 2024 halving.
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The price is potentially being suppressed by whales at the current time. They will allow us to fly up when the time is right. They are eating all the cheap coins up. No significant epic green candles & ath until after the next block reward halving.
well the simple thing is that whales are still enjoying this bear market and continue to add to their load. buy all cheap coins. Manipulation continues to make prices go down. When the timing is right and all the fundamentals are supportive, then a bull market will come. Waiting for the whale to finish loading it would be better. We as small traders must also be prepared, don't waste this opportunity.
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