[POLL] Shutting down the Global Economy to fight covid a good idea?

[OgNasty]

Now that economies are opening back up and trying to return to normal with insane inflation levels, the vaccine was found to be 1% effective, the latest variant found to be non-lethal with a stronger immune response than the vaccine, and the bill for all of this is in at around $12,500,000,000,000, was shutting down the global economy to fight the flu a good idea?  Do you feel like you were safer as a result of the policies put in place?  Do you think this is how we should handle virus outbreaks in the future?  Do you think we are better off as a species now as a result of these actions?  Do you think the government's inability to get everyone vaccinated is part of the reason behind this push to destroy the second amendment?

[Z-tight]

It depends on how we look at it OG, at the time it looked like a good idea, you know the outbreak was severe at the beginning with millions of cases in a short time, so why i said it looked like a good idea at the time is that governments needed time to decide on the action to take, and to stop the spread while they dialogue on what to do, they had to impose lockdowns.

The government knew the action will lead to inflation, but lockdown was something they had to impose then, and worry about what will come later. Are we better off now as a result of those policies? I do not think so, in hindsight the negative effects of lockdowns seem extremely worse than what was being avoided. If i think we should handle virus outbreaks in the future similarly, i would say no to that, the government ought to be more proactive next time, policies that will turn out to be more of a "hinderance than a help" should not be made.

[Gyfts]

Do you feel like you were safer as a result of the policies put in place?

No. Anyone who was already infected with the virus should have been free to live their lives. Even if they weren't infected -- risk remained low for the vast majority of people. Doesn't warrant the government forcing you to stay within your home.

Do you think this is how we should handle virus outbreaks in the future?

Like monkeypox? CDC are already recommending masking for a disease that primarily effects homosexual men having close sexual contact. Wearing a mask during sex might be their next recommendation.

Do you think we are better off as a species now as a result of these actions?

Nope. The amount of deaths related to reduced economic activity (depression driven suicides, famines, etc.) outpace the deaths related to COVID.

Do you think the government's inability to get everyone vaccinated is part of the reason behind this push to destroy the second amendment?

Probably not, but possibly. The gun grabbing is a simple issue. Use dead children, drag their lifeless and still warm bodies across the stage and fully display them for the world to see. Then, use emotional appeal to call any gun supporters heartless bigots who enjoy seeing children get slaughtered. And this has world-wide appeal, in fact. Canada has announced gun restrictions for a shooting that happened in the U.S., not even within their borders. It's not part of a larger conspiracy theory, just people that don't understand gun-death related statistics and find guns to be scary.

[BADecker]

If we can shut down the global economy, the medical will go along with it... because nobody can afford it as it is.

Then we won't have any more Covid problems, because Covid is so weak that it can be cured with Ivermectin, vitamin C + zinc, and vitamin D... all ver the counter stuff that isn't dangerous like the vaxx.

[Cnut237]

Now that economies are opening back up and trying to return to normal with insane inflation levels, the vaccine was found to be 1% effective, the latest variant found to be non-lethal with a stronger immune response than the vaccine, and the bill for all of this is in at around $12,500,000,000,000, was shutting down the global economy to fight the flu a good idea?  Do you feel like you were safer as a result of the policies put in place?  Do you think this is how we should handle virus outbreaks in the future?  Do you think we are better off as a species now as a result of these actions?  Do you think the government's inability to get everyone vaccinated is part of the reason behind this push to destroy the second amendment?

I'm not sure where the 1% effective data comes from, please can you provide a source? Everything I've found suggests it is hugely effective.

As for whether governments could have handled this better, certainly. In my own country (the UK), it was perfectly evident as soon as outbreaks started in Italy and Spain that it would make its way over here. The biggest mistake the government made was to keep the borders open too long... if you wait until something is a problem, then it's too late to achieve the best outcome. You need to close borders beforehand. That way the internal economy at least can continue.


https://xkcd.com/2278/

[BADecker]

Well, of course it's a good idea... for those who want to reduce the population and take over the world. Here is what they are finding in the blood clots of the people who have died from taking the vaxx.

Note that I have suggested long ago that if we could get nano-machines into the body, tiny machines that could flow together and become RF devices, we might be able to take over the bodies of people that had these devices in them.

Loads of microscope magnified pictures in the article.


EXCLUSIVE: Shocking microscopy photos of blood clots extracted from those who “suddenly died” – crystalline structures, nanowires, chalky particles and fibrous structures

EXCLUSIVE: Today we are publishing a series of lab microscopy photos of bizarre clots which are now being routinely found in adults who “suddenly died,” usually in a number of months following covid vaccinations.

These clots are often referred to as “blood clots” but they are nothing at all like normal clots, and they consist of far more than mere blood cells. Unlike normal clots which are gelatinous, almost jelly-like, these so-called “clots” contain extremely large, complex, repeating structural elements (all shown below) that are clearly being constructed in the blood of the victims who died from these clots.

All of these clots were extracted from patients within a few hours of their death. These are not the result of post-mortem blood stasis. These are structures found in blood vessels and arteries. They are not congealed blood.

We wish to publicly thank Dr. Jane Ruby for connecting us to the embalmer (Richard Hirschman) who provided these clots. (Telegram channel T.ME/DRJANERUBY) Without the persistence of Dr. Ruby, you would not be seeing this report. Dr. Ruby is frequently featured on the Stew Peters Show (StewPeters.TV) and will also be my featured guest Monday on the Infowars.com broadcast.

Here’s a vial of these raw clots, washed of blood and preserved, before staining:

These structures exhibit the following shocking properties:

•     They are tough, fibrous and resilient, showing material properties similar to small rubber bands.
•     They consist of many strands of small, fibrous strands.
•     These fibrous strands (see the very last photo set below) show repeating patterns of scale-like engineering, as if the body has been programmed to build another life form inside the blood vessels.
•     There are strange crystalline-like structures found on these clots, exhibiting transparency and resistance to normal gram staining techniques.
•     Below, you will find one example of a structure that appears to resemble a silicon-like biocircuitry or microchip-like structure. We don’t yet know what it is.
•     One of the photo sets below reveals what appears to be a biocircuitry wire which clearly shows repeating patterns and nano-scale interface structures that are assembled in a specific geometry for an unknown purpose.

Context for the photos you are about to see:

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[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Do you think the government's inability to get everyone vaccinated is part of the reason behind this push to destroy the second amendment?

That amount is huge and its sad to also here that its still not enough to cover up for the Covid-19 vaccines. But if the world economy should shut down just for the fight of this highly deadly virus it should please shut down, because of what benefit will be it if human being shut down instead of the economy. who will the economy be for then. because  i still haven't forgotten what i passed through in 2020 during the lockdown period here. it was a total mess and i hope not to see that again. So if am to choose between economy and the human race, i rather go for human race.
But i pray such never happens in my generation.

[Hamza2424]

Trying my best to answer all questions from my own perspective.

was shutting down the global economy to fight the flu a good idea?  

Not at all Complete Shut down destroyed the Middle and Poor Class Counties and now inflation is all-time High and we are bearing it in my own country people are Struggling for the 2 Time Meal.

Do you think the government's inability to get everyone vaccinated is part of the reason behind this push to destroy the second amendment?

Yes. Obviously, there were many other options as well but they choose to Destroy us.

Do you feel like you were safer as a result of the policies put in place?

At this point, I think temporary Safty is the reason for which I'm going to pay for the next 5 years.

Do you think this is how we should handle virus outbreaks in the future?  Do you think we are better off as a species now as a result of these actions?  

Not at all COVID-19 gave a lesson that whatever progress you will do to stand against the Nature a small slap of nature in the form of any disease you cant survive (Where was all the technology for 2 years).

Do you think we are better off as a species now as a result of these actions?

Not Sure...

[Moneyprism]

if we really shut down the global economy there will be many problems that will arise, which will have an impact on those of the lower middle class ... it's better to leave it like this,, the economy is running as usual and activities can run like there is no covid

[BCwinning]

I voted no, in hindsight I feel it's safe to say it was a terrible idea. Unless you like the supply snafu and shortages..

[tvbcof]

A more adequate question:

Was the deployment of 'covid' as implemented the best method of shutting down the global economy and facilitating follow-on 'great reset' objectives?

[TheNineClub]

I would go with yes, it was a good idea. Or I should say it was the best idea we had at the moment when combating something we haven't come across since WWI (pandemic). Leaving everything as is and pretending this was just a "flu" is a childish way of adressing an issue. Was it the best solution. Probably not, but we can learn from it an come up with better solutions in the future. It sure beats the alternative, bury our heads in the sand just because we don't wan't our way of life disrupted. And I wouldn't say that the full economy was shut down, that's just false and not true.

[BADecker]

The reason why shutting down the global economy to fight Covid is a good thing, doesn't have anything to do with Covid, the disease.

In the first year of Covid, 2020, in the US, of the, say, 500,000 people that supposedly died from Covid, 94% really died from comorbidities. Look it up. They were mostly people that had some disease like cancer, heart disease, diabetes, other terminal disease, who really died from doctors treating them in the wrong way, because they were4 (are still) ignorant about Covid.

And the 6% that didn't have one of these comorbid diseases, died from the doctors treating them the wrong way as well.

Presently, most of the Covid deaths by far are from vaxx induced Covid... which, btw, the doctors still are treating the wrong way.

But here is the reason why shutting down the global economy is good, especially in the States. It's because the people still believe and trust the doctors! The people haven't waked up. So, if we get the economy to shut down, the doctors will be out of business, because the patients will all die from starvation if nothing else.

It seems to be the only way to get rid of the corrupt medical.

[Cnut237]

In the first year of Covid, 2020, in the US, of the, say, 500,000 people that supposedly died from Covid, 94% really died from comorbidities. Look it up. They were mostly people that had some disease like cancer, heart disease, diabetes, other terminal disease, who really died from doctors treating them in the wrong way, because they were4 (are still) ignorant about Covid.

You need to understand what a comorbidity is. Look it up. It's not surprising that people with a pre-existing condition are more susceptible to death from Covid, and no-one would challenge that. But look at excess death figures (from any reason). There wasn't a sudden pandemic of cancer, heart disease etc that just happened to occur at the exact same time as the Covid outbreak.

Presently, most of the Covid deaths by far are from vaxx induced Covid...

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[Plaguedeath]

We're a human that need foods to survive, though we can fasting for few days, but it's not good for your health.

If global economy will shut down, many people doesn't have money and can't feed their themself.

Which cases are more dangerous? suffered from starving or covid?

[coolcoinz]

Governments overreacted and showed that they have no idea what to do in case of emergency. There was actually very little deaths compared to the measures they took to prevent them like full lockdowns in China where people were starving and couldn't go out to get food, despite being healthy. They were blindly putting people in house arrests when a few sick popped out in the area.
All countries that did these lockdowns are now suffering from first signs of stagflation. On top of that we got that idiot Putin murdering people and destroying food to starve Ukraine. He couldn't have chosen a worse moment.

[OgNasty]

I would go with yes, it was a good idea. Or I should say it was the best idea we had at the moment when combating something we haven't come across since WWI (pandemic). Leaving everything as is and pretending this was just a "flu" is a childish way of adressing an issue. Was it the best solution. Probably not, but we can learn from it an come up with better solutions in the future. It sure beats the alternative, bury our heads in the sand just because we don't wan't our way of life disrupted. And I wouldn't say that the full economy was shut down, that's just false and not true.

I don't believe that going about lives normally and warning people there was a bad strain of flu going around would have been a childish way to address the issue.  Quite the opposite actually.  Now that we've seen the inflationary result of our actions, the uselessness of the vaccine (1% effective after 1 week), and how lockdowns simply didn't work (the countries that did nothing recovered fastest), it is shocking to me that anyone could come to the conclusion that we did the right thing.  Especially when it's been acknowledged by Bill Gates himself that contracting the virus naturally led to a stronger immune resistance going forward.  I stand by my decision to do nothing and end up with the strongest immunity possible.

[Cnut237]

the uselessness of the vaccine (1% effective after 1 week)

I'm not sure where you get the '1% effective' data from, please could you provide a link? And I'd add that no-one has suggested that the vaccine becomes fully effective within a week, anyway. Data on vaccine efficacy can be found from many reputable sources, here's one example: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccine-effectiveness

The vaccines are safe and effective. I don't think there's any reasonable doubt about this anymore.

it's been acknowledged by Bill Gates himself that contracting the virus naturally led to a stronger immune resistance going forward.  I stand by my decision to do nothing and end up with the strongest immunity possible.

Contracting the virus does confer a strong immune response, yes. But the point of the vaccines is that you get the immunity without having to catch the virus. Given that contracting the virus comes with a decent percentage chance of serious illness, long-term health effects, or even death... I'd argue that taking the vaccine is the more prudent approach.

Even if you're young and healthy, and in a very low-risk group, it's still better to take the vaccine rather than contracting the virus and potentially passing it on to more vulnerable people. This is why vaccination against a contagious disease is more a social responsibility issue than an individual liberty issue.

[tvbcof]

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Even if you're young and healthy, and in a very low-risk group, it's still better to take the vaccine rather than contracting the virus and potentially passing it on to more vulnerable people. This is why vaccination against a contagious disease is more a social responsibility issue than an individual liberty issue.

e.g., the 'vaccinated' who now have a form of AIDS which makes them more vulnerable to everything.

[Cnut237]

e.g., the 'vaccinated' who now have a form of AIDS which makes them more vulnerable to everything.

If you make a ridiculous claim, without any evidence to support it, then it's unlikely that people will believe you. Please gather some evidence.

I do, of course, understand that any evidence that you may present will be carefully selected and divested of context in order to further a narrative that is at odds with reality, so here's a cherry-picker to assist you in your efforts. I've made the image quite small, because I'm not expecting you to gather much.