Jake Paul v Hasim Rahman Jr / Amanda Serrano V Brenda Carabaja co-main event Aug

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@TopTort777. However, Jake might only repeat the problem because another fight versus Woodley will not sell enough tickets and payperviews to pay for the expenses of the event. Also, when this event was announced, the original opponent was supposed to be Tommy Fury. That was the fight that everyone wanted to see because the opponent was the brother of Tyson Fury.

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LOL. Another opponent change. Why not Jake decides to gain 10lbs and fight ? This is getting similar to Jakes previous fight, when in few days before the fight big name opponent got changed to Woodley. I find it strange that there are such problems to fight an opponent. American is full with great boxer, active or retired, numerous media stars that wants to earn and get famous (even via beating). I think that Jake will fight Woodley again

Good point! Now that gets me curious why wouldn't he make a move to make the fight happen because Jake Paul is also a natural heavyweight boxer like Hasim Rahman, they first agreed to a 200 lb. fight and then 205 lbs. fight but Rahman's camp said that they couldn't meet it and decides to meet in a 215 lbs.
Too much controversy in these Paul brothers and now this is the 2nd time that Jake's fight has cancelled just a week before the event. I'm curious if who will be that back-up because I know that there will be someone like what happened before.

[TopTort777]

@TopTort777. However, Jake might only repeat the problem because another fight versus Woodley will not sell enough tickets and payperviews to pay for the expenses of the event. Also, when this event was announced, the original opponent was supposed to be Tommy Fury. That was the fight that everyone wanted to see because the opponent was the brother of Tyson Fury.

If it is not Woodley, then there are a queue of formed UFC fighters that wants to get a juicy check from a boxing match. Just find a retired UFC guy who was a champion (does not matter if he hasnt defended his title and immediately lost it), announced it from every speaker and here are your huge PPV sales. This formula always work.

If Jake has big balls and a lot of money, he could offer Francis Ngannou to have a fight. It will be huge. And Francis always talks that UFC pays him to little.

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@TopTort777. However, Jake might only repeat the problem because another fight versus Woodley will not sell enough tickets and payperviews to pay for the expenses of the event. Also, when this event was announced, the original opponent was supposed to be Tommy Fury. That was the fight that everyone wanted to see because the opponent was the brother of Tyson Fury.

If it is not Woodley, then there are a queue of formed UFC fighters that wants to get a juicy check from a boxing match. Just find a retired UFC guy who was a champion (does not matter if he hasnt defended his title and immediately lost it), announced it from every speaker and here are your huge PPV sales. This formula always work.

If Jake has big balls and a lot of money, he could offer Francis Ngannou to have a fight. It will be huge. And Francis always talks that UFC pays him to little.

He could offer Ngannou, yes, but I think Jake won't be that dumb to scathe his flawless record because Ngannou could still be a dangerous opponent even if it is a ring.

But this cancellation might also be the chance to pave a way for Paul Jake to fight Anderson Silva after the latter calls out Jake last May, if that will happen then for sure there will be a lot of fans and people who would want to watch that fight.

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LOL. Another opponent change. Why not Jake decides to gain 10lbs and fight ? This is getting similar to Jakes previous fight, when in few days before the fight big name opponent got changed to Woodley. I find it strange that there are such problems to fight an opponent. American is full with great boxer, active or retired, numerous media stars that wants to earn and get famous (even via beating). I think that Jake will fight Woodley again

Good point! Now that gets me curious why wouldn't he make a move to make the fight happen because Jake Paul is also a natural heavyweight boxer like Hasim Rahman, they first agreed to a 200 lb. fight and then 205 lbs. fight but Rahman's camp said that they couldn't meet it and decides to meet in a 215 lbs.
Too much controversy in these Paul brothers and now this is the 2nd time that Jake's fight has cancelled just a week before the event. I'm curious if who will be that back-up because I know that there will be someone like what happened before.

They may look for another easy replacement, just to get some money from this exhibition fight.
As we can see, the Paul brothers are still gaining riches from this kind of fight.
And they won't stop up until the tickets are not selling anymore.
But it is his luck, that many are still buying his fights and still getting the interest of the promoters.

[bbc.reporter]

@TopTort777. However, Jake might only repeat the problem because another fight versus Woodley will not sell enough tickets and payperviews to pay for the expenses of the event. Also, when this event was announced, the original opponent was supposed to be Tommy Fury. That was the fight that everyone wanted to see because the opponent was the brother of Tyson Fury.

If it is not Woodley, then there are a queue of formed UFC fighters that wants to get a juicy check from a boxing match. Just find a retired UFC guy who was a champion (does not matter if he hasnt defended his title and immediately lost it), announced it from every speaker and here are your huge PPV sales. This formula always work.

If Jake has big balls and a lot of money, he could offer Francis Ngannou to have a fight. It will be huge. And Francis always talks that UFC pays him to little.

I very much agree and I have a big name UFC fighter for this. El Cucuy Tony Ferguson hehehe. He has no more skills, no more chin, however, his name might be known by many boxing fans. I am quite certain they want to see him knocked out again hehehe.

Also, Jake Paul is a businessman. If you notice, everyone he challenges have been knocked out or have no real skill in boxing or they are former MMA fighters who have become old and weak. Jake will certainly never offer Francis Ngannou anything unless Jake wants to be dead hehehehe.

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If Jake has big balls and a lot of money, he could offer Francis Ngannou to have a fight. It will be huge. And Francis always talks that UFC pays him to little.

It is not about the balls of Jake Paul, if he wants to fight anyone contracted to the UFC, he needs to get the permission of Dana White to participate in that event which is highly unlikely because in face value itself it is a big mismatch. Jake Paul is not that big compared to Francis Ngannou and weight division is for a reason  .

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Also, Jake Paul is a businessman. If you notice, everyone he challenges have been knocked out or have no real skill in boxing or they are former MMA fighters who have become old and weak. Jake will certainly never offer Francis Ngannou anything unless Jake wants to be dead hehehehe.

That is not true, i believed in this narrative earlier but when Tommy Fury and Hasim Rahman Jr two of the so called legit boxers never made it to the scale citing injury and that too Tommy Fury two times and Hasim Rahman who was not willing to cut down from 215 pounds to 205 pounds even with a week left even though Jake Paul allowed to cut down to 210 pounds, he was not willing to cut any weight, bunch of pussies who are scared to even fight a youtuber even after agreeing to fight have no rights to mock him to be frank.

Now i understand why he was signing MMA fighters to fight, if they sign the contract they will come to fight as Chael Sonnen said in his podcast but boxers would challenge and then back out for no reason that could be disclosed. The damage Jake Paul had to compensate by cancelling the event is huge as he had to shell out around a million dollars compensating the undercard and other booking charges including the arena and broadcast partners is huge.

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@TopTort777. However, Jake might only repeat the problem because another fight versus Woodley will not sell enough tickets and payperviews to pay for the expenses of the event. Also, when this event was announced, the original opponent was supposed to be Tommy Fury. That was the fight that everyone wanted to see because the opponent was the brother of Tyson Fury.

If it is not Woodley, then there are a queue of formed UFC fighters that wants to get a juicy check from a boxing match. Just find a retired UFC guy who was a champion (does not matter if he hasnt defended his title and immediately lost it), announced it from every speaker and here are your huge PPV sales. This formula always work.

If Jake has big balls and a lot of money, he could offer Francis Ngannou to have a fight. It will be huge. And Francis always talks that UFC pays him to little.

Come on now, don't be silly. Francis is about as big of a heavyweight as you can get and one of the hardest punches in the world and Jake is still a cruiserweight. Jake would be insane to even entertain fights like this and he's not that stupid. No commission would even sanction that fight but it wouldn't happen anyway.

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If Jake has big balls and a lot of money, he could offer Francis Ngannou to have a fight. It will be huge. And Francis always talks that UFC pays him to little.

It is not about the balls of Jake Paul, if he wants to fight anyone contracted to the UFC, he needs to get the permission of Dana White to participate in that event which is highly unlikely because in face value itself it is a big mismatch. Jake Paul is not that big compared to Francis Ngannou and weight division is for a reason  .

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Also, Jake Paul is a businessman. If you notice, everyone he challenges have been knocked out or have no real skill in boxing or they are former MMA fighters who have become old and weak. Jake will certainly never offer Francis Ngannou anything unless Jake wants to be dead hehehehe.

That is not true, i believed in this narrative earlier but when Tommy Fury and Hasim Rahman Jr two of the so called legit boxers never made it to the scale citing injury and that too Tommy Fury two times and Hasim Rahman who was not willing to cut down from 215 pounds to 205 pounds even with a week left even though Jake Paul allowed to cut down to 210 pounds, he was not willing to cut any weight, bunch of pussies who are scared to even fight a youtuber even after agreeing to fight have no rights to mock him to be frank.

Rahman obviously didn't have any intention to fight at the weight he signed on to do but Tommy had legitimate reasons for why he couldn't fight. I doubt he would have signed on for a second fight if he had no intention of competing. If he pulls out of a third fight for whatever reason then I might find it a bit suspicious but he can't travel to the US right now unless he gets his VISA sorted out so it will have to be in the UK or another neutral country.

[TopTort777]

@TopTort777. However, Jake might only repeat the problem because another fight versus Woodley will not sell enough tickets and payperviews to pay for the expenses of the event. Also, when this event was announced, the original opponent was supposed to be Tommy Fury. That was the fight that everyone wanted to see because the opponent was the brother of Tyson Fury.

If it is not Woodley, then there are a queue of formed UFC fighters that wants to get a juicy check from a boxing match. Just find a retired UFC guy who was a champion (does not matter if he hasnt defended his title and immediately lost it), announced it from every speaker and here are your huge PPV sales. This formula always work.

If Jake has big balls and a lot of money, he could offer Francis Ngannou to have a fight. It will be huge. And Francis always talks that UFC pays him to little.

I very much agree and I have a big name UFC fighter for this. El Cucuy Tony Ferguson hehehe. He has no more skills, no more chin, however, his name might be known by many boxing fans. I am quite certain they want to see him knocked out again hehehe.

Also, Jake Paul is a businessman. If you notice, everyone he challenges have been knocked out or have no real skill in boxing or they are former MMA fighters who have become old and weak. Jake will certainly never offer Francis Ngannou anything unless Jake wants to be dead hehehehe.

Just my two cents - Jake would offer Francis Ngannou a fight, but their contract will have some tricky clauses. I still believe there was a clause of "no KO" in Jake vs Woodley first fight. Otherwise I dont know why dont he finish Jake, when Jake was on ropes. And I dont believe Ngannou would use 100% of his punching power in a fight. Why spend 100% of your strength in a punch, when 10% is enough and you can by TKO Ngannou wont just accept a fight against Jake, because he wants Fury and millions, then a million and millions of youtube views from a fight against Jake

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Honestly, there should be clauses put into the contract that if you miss weight, then you have to pay an amount agreed prior to the fight if it means you have to pull out. UFC basically does it in a way where the fighter gives up a rather large portion of their purse, and that at the very least discourages missing weight.

Basically, Jake had two fights lined up, which both were cancelled because of something he can't control. That's not on him, and I'm not sure why some of the media is bashing on Jake. He's done what he has been asked to do, and that's match up with two professional boxers, or real boxers.

[Baofeng]

Uggh. So annoying. I was looking forward to this fight and it was going to be shown for free on Dazn in the UK. I wonder what sort of financial hit Jake is taking on this? Pretty shitty and stupid of Hasim not have taken this fight seriously as he's going to lose the biggest paycheck of his career and now he looks like a coward who wanted to fight on his own terms and whatever weight he felt like.

I am quite certain that it will take some future financial hits for Jake Paul as a promoter. There might not be much other fighters who would be as excited to be in one of his cards. Those other boxers have also trained hard for August 6 and have also had their expenses paid for their training.

I have a feeling though that this fight is still going to happen and it might have to be push through, just maybe a couple of weeks.

Or maybe find a replacement fighter for Rahman?

But if they fight is totally scraped for good then sure, it will have a financial toll on Jake Paul.

Agreed. This will be rescheduled to a month where Jake Paul's MVP promotion can collect more money for tickets and payperviews more easily hehehe. The skeptical me speculates that with only 2 weeks before fight night, MVP promotions might not have enough sales to pay for the cost of the event. I also agree to find a replacement figher. This was supposed to be versus Tommy Fury. I reckon Jake should challenge another MMA fighter who has no more skills, no more chin but with a known name very much similar to Ben Askren and Tyron Woodley hehehehe. However, if Jake Paul was serious on his boxing, he should challenge the fighter who knocked out Rahman.

Still boils down to money here, I doubt that he will get someone that can defeat him. Yeah, a fighter with Woodley's caliber, ex-MMA no chin, but he can still promote. Not sure if he is serious of his boxing though, as I have said, it's all about the money, and if he get someone that will beat him, then his hype will go down. Just fine a replacement fighter move forward with the fight, make millions (maybe not like the Rahman fight), but still at last a decent amount so that his MVP promotions can still continue.

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LOL. Another opponent change. Why not Jake decides to gain 10lbs and fight ? This is getting similar to Jakes previous fight, when in few days before the fight big name opponent got changed to Woodley. I find it strange that there are such problems to fight an opponent. American is full with great boxer, active or retired, numerous media stars that wants to earn and get famous (even via beating). I think that Jake will fight Woodley again

Good point! Now that gets me curious why wouldn't he make a move to make the fight happen because Jake Paul is also a natural heavyweight boxer like Hasim Rahman, they first agreed to a 200 lb. fight and then 205 lbs. fight but Rahman's camp said that they couldn't meet it and decides to meet in a 215 lbs.
Too much controversy in these Paul brothers and now this is the 2nd time that Jake's fight has cancelled just a week before the event. I'm curious if who will be that back-up because I know that there will be someone like what happened before.

They may look for another easy replacement, just to get some money from this exhibition fight.
As we can see, the Paul brothers are still gaining riches from this kind of fight.
And they won't stop up until the tickets are not selling anymore.
But it is his luck, that many are still buying his fights and still getting the interest of the promoters.

That will be the nearest case because the people have already purchased their tickets and PPV's, I have a theory although it is not that sure but I'm smelling that Jake Paul is always using a famous fighter as his first opponent to gain viewers that will be interested to buy the PPV's and tickets but in the end, there will be issues because the opponent suddenly cannot make it and he will eventually fight a back-up fighter where his chances in winning is much higher than the first proposed opponent.

There is also a chance that my theory is really wrong but I cannot see any reasonable thing that Hasim Rahman cannot make it because they both given an equal amount of time to prepare and to meet the weight needed. As for Rahman's case, he only reduced 1 lb. with a month of preparation, how is that possible? If their team knows that Rahman cannot make it, they shouldn't have agreed with the proposed weight.

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Honestly, there should be clauses put into the contract that if you miss weight, then you have to pay an amount agreed prior to the fight if it means you have to pull out. UFC basically does it in a way where the fighter gives up a rather large portion of their purse, and that at the very least discourages missing weight.

Basically, Jake had two fights lined up, which both were cancelled because of something he can't control. That's not on him, and I'm not sure why some of the media is bashing on Jake. He's done what he has been asked to do, and that's match up with two professional boxers, or real boxers.

I agree, they should write that in their contract so that a fighter has some reasons to go after in case the other opponent cannot make the said weight or had any issues that could make the fight gets cancelled because of it.

I pity Jake because he carried most of the things just to get the fight to sell out while Rahman is relaxed and just focus in his trainings but the unexpected happened because Rahman cannot make it, this will Jake's ticket to get be a legit pro-boxer but now it's fallen into pieces because the fight is already cancelled.

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If Jake has big balls and a lot of money, he could offer Francis Ngannou to have a fight. It will be huge. And Francis always talks that UFC pays him to little.

It is not about the balls of Jake Paul, if he wants to fight anyone contracted to the UFC, he needs to get the permission of Dana White to participate in that event which is highly unlikely because in face value itself it is a big mismatch. Jake Paul is not that big compared to Francis Ngannou and weight division is for a reason  .

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Also, Jake Paul is a businessman. If you notice, everyone he challenges have been knocked out or have no real skill in boxing or they are former MMA fighters who have become old and weak. Jake will certainly never offer Francis Ngannou anything unless Jake wants to be dead hehehehe.

That is not true, i believed in this narrative earlier but when Tommy Fury and Hasim Rahman Jr two of the so called legit boxers never made it to the scale citing injury and that too Tommy Fury two times and Hasim Rahman who was not willing to cut down from 215 pounds to 205 pounds even with a week left even though Jake Paul allowed to cut down to 210 pounds, he was not willing to cut any weight, bunch of pussies who are scared to even fight a youtuber even after agreeing to fight have no rights to mock him to be frank.

Now i understand why he was signing MMA fighters to fight, if they sign the contract they will come to fight as Chael Sonnen said in his podcast but boxers would challenge and then back out for no reason that could be disclosed. The damage Jake Paul had to compensate by cancelling the event is huge as he had to shell out around a million dollars compensating the undercard and other booking charges including the arena and broadcast partners is huge.

I am not quite certain why Jake Paul issued a challenge to Tommy Fury, however, it is very known in the boxing world that a boxer's chin will become weaker when the boxer is knocked out badly. Hasim Rahman was knocked out badly by James Kenzie Morrison only on April 29. This is only 3 months ago which will be very bad for Rahman because only a touch from Jake's glove will make him sleep in the ring hehehe. Also this weight cut from 215 to 205. This is 10 pounds! This will drain more water from his brain causing for him to have concussions very easily. Rahman knows this and he also knows why he was lucky to be chosen by Jake. This is why he cancelled.

As I have mentioned, Jake Paul is a businessman and a youtuber. He is doing this for the show, he not doing this to become a good boxer.

[Baofeng]

Ok maybe this is a promotional stunt by Rahman,



https://twitter.com/DonaghCorby_/status/1555657996662964224

He has a mocked up weigh-in, we all know that the fight has been cancelled already, maybe he just wanted to prove that he can make the 205 lbs. Because in the video, he weighed 206.6 lbs. He just came in 1½ lbs off the supposedly agreed weight.

[bbc.reporter]

@Baofeng. He almost made the weight? This fight would have been a very clear knockout win for Jake Paul, I reckon hehehe. Jake Paul was very wise to demand 205 because he does not want to risk reducing the odds of his victory versus a real professional boxer.

In any case, to save Jake's reputation as a promoter, the next he should do is to have the fight against Tommy Fury organized this year because a victory versus Tyson Fury's brother would certainly increase Jake's popularity as a boxer, a promoter and a showman. I think as a showman, he is a genius following the footsteps of other genius showmen like Vince McMahon and Andy Kaufman.

[OgNasty]

Jake Paul is calling out Andrew Tate now after his last two opponents haven’t been able to find their way into the ring. I think Andrew Tate is one of the few people that is hated more than Jake Paul is. I’d love to see this fight and I’m not sure how well Andrew Tate can box, but given his ego I think there’s a decent shot of a fight like this happening and drawing an audience. The only thing is that I’m not sure Andrew Tate needs the money.

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@TopTort777. However, Jake might only repeat the problem because another fight versus Woodley will not sell enough tickets and payperviews to pay for the expenses of the event. Also, when this event was announced, the original opponent was supposed to be Tommy Fury. That was the fight that everyone wanted to see because the opponent was the brother of Tyson Fury.

If it is not Woodley, then there are a queue of formed UFC fighters that wants to get a juicy check from a boxing match. Just find a retired UFC guy who was a champion (does not matter if he hasnt defended his title and immediately lost it), announced it from every speaker and here are your huge PPV sales. This formula always work.

If Jake has big balls and a lot of money, he could offer Francis Ngannou to have a fight. It will be huge. And Francis always talks that UFC pays him to little.

I very much agree and I have a big name UFC fighter for this. El Cucuy Tony Ferguson hehehe. He has no more skills, no more chin, however, his name might be known by many boxing fans. I am quite certain they want to see him knocked out again hehehe.

Also, Jake Paul is a businessman. If you notice, everyone he challenges have been knocked out or have no real skill in boxing or they are former MMA fighters who have become old and weak. Jake will certainly never offer Francis Ngannou anything unless Jake wants to be dead hehehehe.

As long as Jake Paul is winning and his wins are coming from knockouts the money keeps coming in, yes he is indeed a good businessman no way he will fight fighters like Ngannou who is at the peak of his career, he'll always go for someone who is on a losing streak but still popular I hope someone recommended Derek Lewis he is in losing streak but still popular and dangerous, it could be an exciting fight and Lewis could bust Paul's career.

[Baofeng]

@Baofeng. He almost made the weight? This fight would have been a very clear knockout win for Jake Paul, I reckon hehehe. Jake Paul was very wise to demand 205 because he does not want to risk reducing the odds of his victory versus a real professional boxer.

Yep, almost 205 lbs, not sure what Rahman is trying to get here, but maybe he was trying to emphasize that maybe if we went over 205 lbs (the agreed weight), the excess weight could be subtracted to his purse, but I don't know.

In any case, to save Jake's reputation as a promoter, the next he should do is to have the fight against Tommy Fury organized this year because a victory versus Tyson Fury's brother would certainly increase Jake's popularity as a boxer, a promoter and a showman. I think as a showman, he is a genius following the footsteps of other genius showmen like Vince McMahon and Andy Kaufman.

He could, and that is the original plan in the first place, fight Tommy Fury. Anyhow, he could still be a good promoter, or shall we say he can make a lot of money by hyping all his fights in the future.

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@Baofeng. He almost made the weight? This fight would have been a very clear knockout win for Jake Paul, I reckon hehehe. Jake Paul was very wise to demand 205 because he does not want to risk reducing the odds of his victory versus a real professional boxer.

Yep, almost 205 lbs, not sure what Rahman is trying to get here, but maybe he was trying to emphasize that maybe if we went over 205 lbs (the agreed weight), the excess weight could be subtracted to his purse, but I don't know.

Whatever the case is, the fight has been cancelled due to some weight complications, and honestly, they could've found some way to make the fight if they truly want it to happen but Jake doesn't want to risk his pro record for a fight that his odds is quite lower. As you said, Jake was quite wise to just accept a 205 lb. fight and no higher than that because Rahman will embarrass him for sure in the ring.