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June 27, 2022, 08:12:29 PM
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But for what McGregor lacks in height he makes up in experience and skill. Both McGregor and Mayweather are 1.73 meters tall and Floyd obviously fought Logan Paul who is 1.88 so I can still see this happening in the future. Nobody will care about the difference in height/weight when there's a shitload of money on the line. If Jake wins this I guarantee you Connor will probably start sniffing around for this fight.

Yup Its all about making money. This is a win-win for everyone, the audiences also are seeing two celebrities fighting on the stage. Although Tommy isn't as good as his brother, he is still popular. Along with Jake Paul who had created his name being a social media influencer to his exhibition fights, there is a shitload of money to make.

Jake is willing to give millions to someone popular to fight with him but of course its his Most Valuable Promotions that will organize the event.


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June 27, 2022, 08:39:15 PM
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Yup Its all about making money. This is a win-win for everyone, the audiences also are seeing two celebrities fighting on the stage. Although Tommy isn't as good as his brother, he is still popular. Along with Jake Paul who had created his name being a social media influencer to his exhibition fights, there is a shitload of money to make.

Jake is willing to give millions to someone popular to fight with him but of course its his Most Valuable Promotions that will organize the event.

It is somewhat being billed as the first real fight between Jake Paul and an actual boxer.  Being honest, I have no idea what to expect.  Jake has surprised everyone with every fight, so maybe he'll keep that momentum going.  All the pros seem to think he doesn't have a chance, but we're used to hearing that by now.  I am surprised Jake is willing to put up so much money on a bet with Tommy's brother, but maybe that's just talk.  This fight has been in discussion for a long time and it seems like Tommy is over his rib injury and ready to go at it.  I'm sort of hoping we see another Jake Paul KO so the legend can continue.

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June 28, 2022, 04:07:54 PM
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“Tommy Fury's fight with Jake Paul could go up in smoke ... after TNT claims he was denied entry into the United States ahead of their scheduled press conference in New York.

Just when it seemed like the bout was FINALLY going to happen, Tommy shared the crappy news on his Instagram on Tuesday ... saying his team showed up at Heathrow Airport to hop over the pond ... but they were shut down.

"As soon as I entered the airport, I was pulled to one side and told by a Homeland Security officer that my ESTA had been denied and that I wasn't able to travel to the USA for a reason I apparently know," Tommy said in a video. “ - https://www.tmz.com/2022/06/28/tommy-fury-denied-entry-into-united-states-fight-jake-paul-jeopardy/

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June 29, 2022, 11:31:06 AM
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Interesting breaking news ..
“Tommy Fury's fight with Jake Paul could go up in smoke ... after TNT claims he was denied entry into the United States ahead of their scheduled press conference in New York.

Just when it seemed like the bout was FINALLY going to happen, Tommy shared the crappy news on his Instagram on Tuesday ... saying his team showed up at Heathrow Airport to hop over the pond ... but they were shut down.

"As soon as I entered the airport, I was pulled to one side and told by a Homeland Security officer that my ESTA had been denied and that I wasn't able to travel to the USA for a reason I apparently know," Tommy said in a video. “ - https://www.tmz.com/2022/06/28/tommy-fury-denied-entry-into-united-states-fight-jake-paul-jeopardy/

Uggh. I'm going to be so annoyed if this fight doesn't happen. Hopefully Tommy can get his VISA sorted out in time. At least there's plenty of time to try get approval and this was only for a promo event. It seems a bit unfair to not let him in based purely on the fact that he's the brother of Tyson who has links to Kinahan. I'm sure the US taxman will be losing a lot in revenue if the Fury's don't fight there anymore. Tyson will probably just fight out of the UK or Abu Dhabi in the future. Jake might have to find a new opponent though as I can't see him making the fight in the UK given he's already booked Madison Square Gardens.

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June 29, 2022, 02:08:38 PM
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Jake might have to find a new opponent though as I can't see him making the fight in the UK given he's already booked Madison Square Gardens.

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Either they try to hype with news, or did not come to an agreement about payment. Otherwise if they really wanted to fight each other, they would have done it long time ago. I think this visa issues is artificial and main problem is $$$.

Have you heard that his brother, Logan Paul was complaining, that he wasnt paid fully for his fight against Mayweather? Could this be a soil for a second fight? Unfinished business Cheesy

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June 29, 2022, 04:51:26 PM
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Jake might have to find a new opponent though as I can't see him making the fight in the UK given he's already booked Madison Square Gardens.

Tyron Woodley is always open for an offer and fake tattoo Cheesy

Either they try to hype with news, or did not come to an agreement about payment. Otherwise if they really wanted to fight each other, they would have done it long time ago. I think this visa issues is artificial and main problem is $$$.

Have you heard that his brother, Logan Paul was complaining, that he wasnt paid fully for his fight against Mayweather? Could this be a soil for a second fight? Unfinished business Cheesy

It's not about money it's just visa issues. Jake said all Tommy has to do is go the American embassy in the UK and he should be able to sort it. He should be able to make a case that he's only connected to this by name. Barring him from the States over his brothers connections seems very harsh.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CfZWZqYFsq1/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Neither Jake or Logan are going to fight Mayweather is he hasn't paid Logan for the first fight.

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How hard it is to create a VISA to America? I've been there once, but passes procedure half year before, when I was booking vacation, hotels and etc. For a more famous person, maybe with some connections, is it possible to create a VISA in one month? From UFC experience, fighters come to the US one or two weeks before the fight to pass acclimatization process and jet lag.

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I can't help, but think this is to build the fight a little more? I wouldn't have thought a professional boxer, and especially on this sort of stage wouldn't be able to get a visa. I know there's been speculation with the Fury family, and who they associate effecting their entry status, but I wasn't aware that extended to Tommy.

At first I was hearing that Tommy didn't want to fight, because his dad couldn't enter the US. However, we all knew that. He hasn't been able to enter the US for as long as I can remember. I believe it was related to a eye gouging incident, and therefore a criminal conviction. Now, we're hearing that Tommy is struggling to get one.

I just feel it's a marketing scheme rather than any truth behind it.

It is somewhat being billed as the first real fight between Jake Paul and an actual boxer.  Being honest, I have no idea what to expect.  Jake has surprised everyone with every fight, so maybe he'll keep that momentum going.
To me, I actually think this is the only fight, and perhaps the Youtube boxing events before it, where Jake probably wouldn't surprise all that many people by winning. Tommy certainly isn't anything special when it comes to boxing, obviously a professional, and therefore somewhat decent, but his career hasn't exactly taken anyone off guard. Especially, considering the calibre of his opponents, and the performances he has put in against them.
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How hard it is to create a VISA to America? I've been there once, but passes procedure half year before, when I was booking vacation, hotels and etc. For a more famous person, maybe with some connections, is it possible to create a VISA in one month? From UFC experience, fighters come to the US one or two weeks before the fight to pass acclimatization process and jet lag.

It's relatively easy. If you're from one of the countries that has a visa waiver program which the UK does you just have to fill out a form a month or so before you go and it's valid for about six months or something. However, working visas I think require an embassy visit.

I can't help, but think this is to build the fight a little more? I wouldn't have thought a professional boxer, and especially on this sort of stage wouldn't be able to get a visa. I know there's been speculation with the Fury family, and who they associate effecting their entry status, but I wasn't aware that extended to Tommy.

I'm not so sure about that. Tommy had a visa and was in the states only a month or so ago. The US just revoked it for reasons that haven't been made public but people are assuming it's because of Tyson connections to Kinehan. Tyson was also denied entry and has had his visa revoked in June.

He should be able to get it sorted out at the embassy according to Jake, though maybe the US are playing hard ball and want cooperation on info on Kinehan from the Furys. Would they have banned Tyson if he had a fight on? I'm not so sure. Hopefully Tommy can get it sorted. Maybe the fight will have to take place in the UK if not but Jake will almost certainly just fight someone else in August instead. I wonder if he has a backup in place?

At first I was hearing that Tommy didn't want to fight, because his dad couldn't enter the US. However, we all knew that. He hasn't been able to enter the US for as long as I can remember. I believe it was related to a eye gouging incident, and therefore a criminal conviction. Now, we're hearing that Tommy is struggling to get one.

It looks like his whole team isn't allowed, including Tyson, so he'd basically be alone over there according to his dad: https://www.insider.com/boxing-champ-tyson-fury-reportedly-banned-from-flying-into-us-2022-6

I can understand Tommy's frustrations if that's true. It would be a huge disadvantage to not have any family members or his regular coaches there. I think Tommy really wants this fight so I doubt he's going to turn it down unless there's something literally stopping him from doing it. And yeah, his dad is banned due to serving serious jail time for blinding someone in a fight. Anyone who's done prison time can't get in. If you have a criminal record you need to get special permission from the US embassy but they deal with them on a case by case basis.

It is somewhat being billed as the first real fight between Jake Paul and an actual boxer.  Being honest, I have no idea what to expect.  Jake has surprised everyone with every fight, so maybe he'll keep that momentum going.
To me, I actually think this is the only fight, and perhaps the Youtube boxing events before it, where Jake probably wouldn't surprise all that many people by winning. Tommy certainly isn't anything special when it comes to boxing, obviously a professional, and therefore somewhat decent, but his career hasn't exactly taken anyone off guard. Especially, considering the calibre of his opponents, and the performances he has put in against them.

That's what makes this fight to appealing to me. It's probably the first big challenge for both of them. Jake can win it for sure and to me both fighters are quite evenly matched, though Tommy has been fighting practically his own life whereas Jake is a relative newcomer. Tommy has only really fought bums and journeymen though and Jake has only fought youtubers and ex-MMA fighters who were on their way out and people have been clamouring for him to prove himself and fight a 'proper' boxer so here it is. Tommy is the perfect step up. He might not be the best boxer but he's still unbeaten and the biggest draw is that Fury name. Anything other than a KO by Fury is going to be an embarrassment for him. If Tommy losses it could even end his career. Nobody is going to take him seriously if he can't even beat a 'youtuber'. His family have practically said they'd disown him if he lost and that's a huge weight to bare. They've both said he should quit if he can't beat Jake and he might have to as that will follow him around his whole life.

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I'm surprised Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury have been listed on bookies and Paul become an underdog in this fight with 2.11x odds while Fury become favorited with 1.68x odds. No doubt, I would bet for Jake Paul no matter what, I know how good he's to make a huge money from boxing even he can't box or have poor skills. I will be cautious if Paul will cherry pick non boxer to fight with him and the odds is really heavy favorited on him. He might bet his opponent and lose on purpose to earn huge money on the casino lol.

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I'm surprised Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury have been listed on bookies and Paul become an underdog in this fight with 2.11x odds while Fury become favorited with 1.68x odds. No doubt, I would bet for Jake Paul no matter what, I know how good he's to make a huge money from boxing even he can't box or have poor skills. I will be cautious if Paul will cherry pick non boxer to fight with him and the odds is really heavy favorited on him. He might bet his opponent and lose on purpose to earn huge money on the casino lol.

You think the bookies are making a mistake in the odds?
 It rarely happen, they know the health and capacity of the fighters before the weighin. I'm sure theybhave the reason for looking Furry have the best chance.

But Pauls are motivated to the fights they are into and with his $1M bet against Tyson, he's gonna give his best to run for the money.
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You think the bookies are making a mistake in the odds?
 It rarely happen, they know the health and capacity of the fighters before the weighin. I'm sure theybhave the reason for looking Furry have the best chance.

But Pauls are motivated to the fights they are into and with his $1M bet against Tyson, he's gonna give his best to run for the money.
Yep, it should be Paul become the favorite in this match like the previous fight he become favorite.

I'm not sure why many bettors think Tommy Fury is the biggest test for Paul because if we watch previous Tommy Furry's fights, he looks awful and no have many differences with Paul. But as we know Paul is making money in boxing and Fury's record is nothing considered if he get huge paycheck from Paul. But yeah, it's good to see if Paul become an underdog since IMO Paul have bigger chance to win here and I will got juicy odds for betting him.

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I can't believe that Tommy Fury backed out of yet another fight with Jake Paul.  This has got to be embarrassing for his family at this point.  Jake is tweeting that he's once again going to take a last minute fight against someone else.  It's starting to seem like this is his strategy to be honest.  I guess we'll find out tomorrow who he's going to be fighting in a couple of weeks.  Hopefully it's another real boxer so we can stop hearing about how Jake is taking on easy fights for his record.  A KO is always nice as well.  Smiley

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I just don’t think the Fury vs Paul fight is ever going to happen. I think Tommy Fury is looking for every excuse in the book which is odd considering he has literally zero pedigree, you would expect he’d just take the big pay day that comes with the Paul circus & do everything possible to make that fight happen.

I have heard that Hasim Rahman Jr will definitely be Paul’s next opponent though.

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/5712382/jake-paul-hasim-rahman-jr-tommy-fury/

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I just don’t think the Fury vs Paul fight is ever going to happen. I think Tommy Fury is looking for every excuse in the book which is odd considering he has literally zero pedigree, you would expect he’d just take the big pay day that comes with the Paul circus & do everything possible to make that fight happen.

I have heard that Hasim Rahman Jr will definitely be Paul’s next opponent though.

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/5712382/jake-paul-hasim-rahman-jr-tommy-fury/

if there's a will, there's a way. so this visa prob of tommy fury may have been sorted out already if he is willing to fight jake paul at all cost. don't know if tommy will ever fight jake paul. or maybe, he wants to create more hype and possibly higher payday. we don't exactly know his reasons.
with rahman jr, the odds may now be in favour with jake paul. because with tommy, paul is the underdog, and the bookies are still listing their fight. they will change it soon.

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July 06, 2022, 09:42:06 PM
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I just don’t think the Fury vs Paul fight is ever going to happen. I think Tommy Fury is looking for every excuse in the book which is odd considering he has literally zero pedigree, you would expect he’d just take the big pay day that comes with the Paul circus & do everything possible to make that fight happen.

I have heard that Hasim Rahman Jr will definitely be Paul’s next opponent though.

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/5712382/jake-paul-hasim-rahman-jr-tommy-fury/

Interesting.  I hadn't heard that but I guess we'll find out for sure tomorrow.  He's definitely going to take some heat for choosing the fight someone he spars with.  You might even say this is him giving one of his friends a payday if that's the case.  I don't think this is going to go a long way in convincing the world that Jake Paul is for real, but he's been training so he's got to fight someone.  It seems like the Jake Paul train is running out of steam.  Hard to believe with all the fighters talking smack about him that he has a hard time finding opponents.

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July 06, 2022, 10:30:45 PM
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I just don’t think the Fury vs Paul fight is ever going to happen. I think Tommy Fury is looking for every excuse in the book which is odd considering he has literally zero pedigree, you would expect he’d just take the big pay day that comes with the Paul circus & do everything possible to make that fight happen.

I have heard that Hasim Rahman Jr will definitely be Paul’s next opponent though.

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/5712382/jake-paul-hasim-rahman-jr-tommy-fury/

Even though Hasim Rahman Jr has a good record of 12 wins and 1 loss as a pro he did not live up to his father's name this is a cherry-picked for Jake Paul but at least he's now fighting a professional fighter, check on Rahman Jr. highlights on Youtube, not really good he is fighting patsies, Jake Paul will be favorite here, as his opponent is just banking on his father's name.
He is coming from a TKO loss against Morrison's son McKenzie too.

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July 07, 2022, 02:50:49 PM
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I just don’t think the Fury vs Paul fight is ever going to happen. I think Tommy Fury is looking for every excuse in the book which is odd considering he has literally zero pedigree, you would expect he’d just take the big pay day that comes with the Paul circus & do everything possible to make that fight happen.

I have heard that Hasim Rahman Jr will definitely be Paul’s next opponent though.

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/5712382/jake-paul-hasim-rahman-jr-tommy-fury/

I don't think he is. He had a cracked rib last time and proved it with x-rays and now the USA literally isn't allowing him in so there's not much he can do about it right now. I think Tommy really wants this fight as he's certainly been gunning for it on social media and it's likely the biggest payday he'll ever get and he probably sees it as an easy fight, though it is still very risky for him in my opinion. I'm hoping Tommy can get a Visa sorted and the fight will happen in the future or they'll just do it in the UK. Jake has offered him 500k to fight in the UK but Tommy Turned it down:

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Paul tweeted out his offer, saying: "I’m confident you are a scared little boy who doesn’t want to fight or understand business. I will pay you $500K to fight me in the UK. I will do it shortly after August 6. You accept?" Fury hit back with a post of his own, telling the YouTuber: "I wouldn’t get out of bed to fight you for $500k. Let me know when you’re ready to have a serious conversation."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/jake-paul-tommy-fury-fight-27421883

Can't really blame him when he was getting 2 million for the other fight but beggars can't be choosers in his position.

I just don’t think the Fury vs Paul fight is ever going to happen. I think Tommy Fury is looking for every excuse in the book which is odd considering he has literally zero pedigree, you would expect he’d just take the big pay day that comes with the Paul circus & do everything possible to make that fight happen.

I have heard that Hasim Rahman Jr will definitely be Paul’s next opponent though.

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/5712382/jake-paul-hasim-rahman-jr-tommy-fury/

Interesting.  I hadn't heard that but I guess we'll find out for sure tomorrow.  He's definitely going to take some heat for choosing the fight someone he spars with.  You might even say this is him giving one of his friends a payday if that's the case.  I don't think this is going to go a long way in convincing the world that Jake Paul is for real, but he's been training so he's got to fight someone.  It seems like the Jake Paul train is running out of steam.  Hard to believe with all the fighters talking smack about him that he has a hard time finding opponents.

Yeah, I'm thinking it's a bit of a safe bet as he will already know what he's up against, though his opponent doesn't exactly seem to be a pushover. I'm hoping Jake can keep his unbeaten record as I still want to see him go on to bigger and better things starting with the Tommy fight next if he can get that sorted.

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Anybody seen odds for the Jake Paul fight yet on a BTC sportsbook?

Thanks in advance.

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I found these odds that were released yesterday after the press conference.

Odds on Jake Paul

Sportsbet:   1.42   (w/ price boost)
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/paul-jake-vs-rahman-jr-hasim-62ce5e820be0f8aa540fcf6e

Stake:    1.41
https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/42819973-paul-jake-rahman-jr-hasim

I am picking JP to win

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