I could be wrong but what if?

[DVlog]

I was just exploring the bounty campaign spreadsheet of Kleks Academy managed by a bounty detective. One unusual pattern got my attention. Looks at the screenshot below. All the username pattern looks the same. Their entry submission timing is also weird. It looks like one group was working together or all those ids belong to one person. I haven't looked at their trust score and didn't further investigate. If anyone wants can investigate these ids. Here is the spreadsheet link. Those are from the article section.

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[Stalker22]

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It looks like one group was working together or all those ids belong to one person.

I think you are on to something here. I checked a few usernames from the spreadsheet, it seems that all of them created their forum accounts on the same day, either May 7 or May 16. And judging by their bounty campaign applications, that can not be a coincidence.

It would be helpful if you could gather all the UIDs that follow this pattern and publish it so we can tag them all.

[acroman08]

not sure if this could become valid evidence, but try checking their transactions to see who they have transacted with and if all of them transacted with the same address where they send all the coins they get from the bounty campaign, then they are most likely the same person or part of a bounty hunter group.

[YOSHIE]

Regardless of their team/friends/relatives or Alt account, if you have any doubts about them or cheated in the campaign, you can report it to the Bounty/campaign manager, and valid evidence.


But from the data I see 9 accounts above that you suspect, I can prove by the address they use and their Alt account is connected.

You can see below.

Forum Username: DahliaTalita
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3473761
Telegram Username: @DahliaTalita
BSC Address: 0x75cda3834A4e2090dDd5984fBd97dcAa9E665A55

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Bitcointalk Username: Farhan Halim
BitcoinTalk Profile URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3241663
Telegram Username: @DahliaTalita
Binance Smart Chain Wallet Address: 0x75cda3834A4e2090dDd5984fBd97dcAa9E665A55

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Bitcointalk Username: lolalalilulu
BitcoinTalk Profile URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2757413
Telegram Username: @lolalalilulu
Binance Smart Chain Wallet Address: 0x75cda3834A4e2090dDd5984fBd97dcAa9E665A55

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Forum Username: DuratuAnnasihah
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3473767
Telegram Username: @DuratuAnnasihah
BSC Address: 0x25f5a23004110fb5db9bb7645550b87b0f3e9565

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Bitcointalk Username: Jeffrey Menzel
BitcoinTalk Profile URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3241668
Telegram Username: @DuratuAnnasihah
Binance Smart Chain Wallet Address: 0x25f5a23004110fb5db9bb7645550b87b0f3e9565

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#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum Username: DzamiraRiyyaShadiqah
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3477019
Telegram Username: @DzamiraRiyyaShadiqah
Participated Campaigns: Article
BSC Address: 0x519d48bad1f1490de5fc4a7db723a646284834d5

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Bitcointalk Username: Rendy Verdian
BitcoinTalk Profile URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3241671
Telegram Username: @DzamiraRiyyaShadiqah
Binance Smart Chain Wallet Address: 0x519d48bad1f1490de5fc4a7db723a646284834d5

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Forum Username: DzakiyahTalitaSakhi
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3477018
Telegram Username: @DzakiyahTalitaSakhi34
Telegram
BEP20 Wallet Address: 0x115dd934fd2d54b290967a3b7ff2ad174243d2b6

[ Archive ]

Bitcointalk Username: Delly Dwi Sukri
BitcoinTalk Profile URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3241676
Telegram Username: @DzakiyahTalitaSakhi34
Binance Smart Chain Wallet Address: 0x115dd934fd2d54b290967a3b7ff2ad174243d2b6

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Forum Username: DirayaFitriani
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3477015
Telegram Username: @DirayaFitriani
BSC Address: 0xf5c3b37c005E0AdD82E42534fccb78c29a9F1B28

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Bitcointalk Username: Rahman Andre Krisdianto
BitcoinTalk Profile URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3241683
Telegram Username: @DirayaFitriani
Binance Smart Chain Wallet Address: 0xf5c3b37c005E0AdD82E42534fccb78c29a9F1B28

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Forum Username: EiliyahNajwaRaihanah
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3477024
Telegram Username: @EiliyahNajwaRaihanah
BSC Address: 0x2d78c6d1c1eeac16d75d9b59aa6250209595153d

[ Archive ]

Bitcointalk Username: Dicky Arief Rahman
BitcoinTalk Profile URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3241685
Telegram Username: @EiliyahNajwaRaihanah
Binance Smart Chain Wallet Address: 0x2d78c6d1c1eeac16d75d9b59aa6250209595153d

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Forum Username: ErinaSyifaMuthmainnah
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3477030
Telegram Username: @ErinaSyifaMuthmainnah
BEP20 Wallet Address: 0x72653D3CDd27746C177fc6Bc335d1a19E7945c71

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Bitcointalk Username: Tisya Amallya Putri
BitcoinTalk Profile URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3248186
Telegram Username: @ErinaSyifaMuthmainnah
Binance Smart Chain Wallet Address: 0x72653D3CDd27746C177fc6Bc335d1a19E7945c71

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Forum Username: ElizaRifdatulAnam
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3477026
Telegram Username: @ElizaRifdatulAnam
BSC Address: 0xc2f62371c14bf05849ee29c91164f26a800d1dd1

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Bitcointalk Username: Alya Annastasya
BitcoinTalk Profile URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3248187
Telegram Username: @ElizaRifdatulAnam
Binance Smart Chain Wallet Address: 0xc2f62371c14bf05849ee29c91164f26a800d1dd1

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Forum Username: EshalMumtazaSyarifah
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3477031
Telegram Username: @EshalMumtazaSyarifah
BEP20 Wallet Address: 0x9d97fa4e1488b686f89c2626751165e319c5c9e8

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Bitcointalk Username: Natalya Mammadova
BitcoinTalk Profile URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3248189
Telegram Username: @EshalMumtazaSyarifah
Binance Smart Chain Wallet Address: 0x9d97fa4e1488b686f89c2626751165e319c5c9e8

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OP, if you have time, try checking the Alt linked above, whether they cheated in the campaign / Bounty or not, if you find it, you can report it to the manager.

[_BlackStar]

not sure if this could become valid evidence, but try checking their transactions to see who they have transacted with and if all of them transacted with the same address where they send all the coins they get from the bounty campaign, then they are most likely the same person or part of a bounty hunter group.

That's very suspicious and I think it looks like all those accounts are being controlled by one person or group of people to cheat the campaign. Usually wallet and social media connections between accounts will prove everything. The OP may need to do more checks on all those accounts and report them to the campaign manager.

[Coyster]

That's very suspicious and I think it looks like all those accounts are being controlled by one person or group of people to cheat the campaign.

Isn't that what most bounty hunters do in bounty campaigns, not that i bother too much about that since they are more often than not newbies with no merits, and they really do not have anything to lose with their accounts, if they are caught cheating and tagged, they will still continue with the account most times because some of the bounty managers do not care, OR they would just create another account and continue till they are caught again.

The only problem i have with bounty hunters is when they post their spam outside of the bounty section, as long as it is in there, i really do not care. OP can try and find out more about all this and if they were actually cheating, and report to the manager, if he is a manager who is strict with the rules, then they will be removed and some users might tag them, but sooner or later they will create another account or join another campaign with another manager who does not check negative feedbacks and the rest. I guess that is why LoyceV thinks ignoring them is somewhat the best option here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5399966.0

[The Cryptovator]

It's pretty sure accounts are controlled by a group of people or accounts farmer. Alt account is allowed, so you need to find where are they abusing campaigns rule. If you found then notify the manager and post it here with solid evidence. I am not much focusing on bounty campaigns because 95% are just scam hunters lol. So it's likely a waste of time.

[Stalker22]

It's pretty sure accounts are controlled by a group of people or accounts farmer. Alt account is allowed, so you need to find where are they abusing campaigns rule. If you found then notify the manager and post it here with solid evidence. I am not much focusing on bounty campaigns because 95% are just scam hunters lol. So it's likely a waste of time.

That is right. It is likely that all accounts are made exclusively for farming campaigns. Just look at the timestamps of their POA posts, just a few seconds difference between participants in each group.
There is at least one campaign in which they cheated or tried to cheat, Kleks Academy, as they are all in the spreadsheet. The campaign policy clearly prohibits the use of alt accounts:

6. Using multiple accounts, cheating and spamming are not allowed. You will be disqualified from the bounty program
immediately and all your accounts will be banned permanently.

Although the campaign is now over, I think the negative tags are still justified in this case.

[DVlog]

6. Using multiple accounts, cheating and spamming are not allowed. You will be disqualified from the bounty program
immediately and all your accounts will be banned permanently.

Although the campaign is now over, I think the negative tags are still justified in this case.

I can see they didn't verify the work yet so neg trust would do the work. But I do not have time to gather evidence to show BM. If some of you have time then do further investigation and report it. YOSHIE did catch some accounts he mentioned already but the rest of the account still needs to be checked.

[mindrust]

I think you are onto something. I was talking about this few days ago. Who knows how many others are doing the same thing... This one is one of the dumber ones because he didn't really tried to cover his tracks. I believe there are more sophisticated ones lurking around but it is probably impossible to detect them.

This is not an "if" question imo, this is a multi accounter/bounty cheater.

[DVlog]

I think you are onto something. I was talking about this few days ago. Who knows how many others are doing the same thing... This one is one of the dumber ones because he didn't really tried to cover his tracks. I believe there are more sophisticated ones lurking around but it is probably impossible to detect them.

This is not an "if" question imo, this is a multi accounter/bounty cheater.

They will surely make mistakes and leave a clue behind in the future. When someone is managing 10 to 20 accounts and the same amount of social media accounts at the same time there is a high chance some track will be left behind unintentionally. But the problem is red tag is not demotivating them to create a new one.



Update:

Some bunch of ALT farmers. All of their username patterns is the same. All are brand-new and all of them are joining the Article campaign. So suddenly some newbie becomes a professional blog writer!!! I think they are using rephrasing tools to copy other's work and post of as their own. All the BM should use manual approval for joining article campaign for new members.

[Lucius]

There is no doubt that these are alt farms, but for me personally there is a much bigger problem in the campaign manager who had to notice what was happening in front of his nose - unless he himself is involved. Judging by his trust summary, it doesn't surprise me that things like this happen.

[Rikafip]

There is no doubt that these are alt farms, but for me personally there is a much bigger problem in the campaign manager who had to notice what was happening in front of his nose - unless he himself is involved.

The thing is, its not in altcoin bounty managers interest to notice altcoin farms operating in their campaigns because if they remove those, there won't be more than couple of dozens of genuine users doing them and how will they sell their service to potential clients then? They need numbers, and the only way to get that is to allow army of newbie accounts to join.

There is a simple solution to remove farms (or atleast majority of them)- introduce Jr Member as minimum requirement but that won't happen of course due before mentioned reason.

[Pandu Geddon]

There is a simple solution to remove farms (or atleast majority of them)- introduce Jr Member as minimum requirement but that won't happen of course due before mentioned reason.

You're right most Altcoin bounty managers don't think much about the account farms in their campaigns. but of course, some still care.

I agree with the minimum JR Member rules that the bounty manager may adopt. or at least for some campaigns like Signature, Article, or Video. while Newbie accounts can be on social media with a minimum of activities that have been achieved.

the problem is, is it possible that the bounty manager is willing to apply such rules? at the risk of client satisfaction that may be disrupted.

[yahoo62278]

There is a simple solution to remove farms (or atleast majority of them)- introduce Jr Member as minimum requirement but that won't happen of course due before mentioned reason.

You're right most Altcoin bounty managers don't think much about the account farms in their campaigns. but of course, some still care.

I agree with the minimum JR Member rules that the bounty manager may adopt. or at least for some campaigns like Signature, Article, or Video. while Newbie accounts can be on social media with a minimum of activities that have been achieved.

the problem is, is it possible that the bounty manager is willing to apply such rules? at the risk of client satisfaction that may be disrupted.

Honestly it doesn't matter if the rank rule is applied or not. Merit can be bought. So, managers apply the jr member rule and then there will be 500 new jr members the next week. Even if they don't buy the merit, users can start meriting their alts. They may even make a post that gets them 1 merit.

A solution has to go further then rank.

[Rikafip]

Honestly it doesn't matter if the rank rule is applied or not. Merit can be bought. So, managers apply the jr member rule and then there will be 500 new jr members the next week. Even if they don't buy the merit, users can start meriting their alts. They may even make a post that gets them 1 merit.

While introduction of rank requirement wouldn't stop altcoin farms entirely, I still think that it would make their life much harder. And I don't think that it would be so easy to buy merit at such a larger scale without any of the forum detectives figuring out what's going on.

They may even make a post that gets them 1 merit.

I've stumbled upon cases like that, bounty hunter writing a normal post just to get merit and then going back to his usual routine of spamming those reports in bounty section and it really sticks out like a sore thumb. 

A solution has to go further then rank.

What's your take on solution for altcoin farms abusing bounty campaigns?

[DVlog]

What's your take on solution for altcoin farms abusing bounty campaigns?

A special badge can be provided for bounty hunters. New members must pay 10$ to the forum to get that badge to join the campaign. Already existing members and users above full member will get that badge as an airdrop. It is easy to get member rank by buying merits but for full member rank, it won't be profitable. When an alt farmer gets red-flagged to 10 of his account he or she will think twice before doing the same because it will cost him money this time.

May be forum administrator won't do anything like this because they have little interest in the bounty thread and there could be many better proposals. But If forum administrator agree then we can open up a community opinion section to gather more idea about what we can do next to get rid of these alt farmers.

[Stalker22]

What's your take on solution for altcoin farms abusing bounty campaigns?

A special badge can be provided for bounty hunters. New members must pay 10$ to the forum to get that badge to join the campaign. Already existing members and users above full member will get that badge as an airdrop. It is easy to get member rank by buying merits but for full member rank, it won't be profitable. When an alt farmer gets red-flagged to 10 of his account he or she will think twice before doing the same because it will cost him money this time.
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How is this different from copper membership?  Why introduce something that, basically, provides the same functionality as an existing feature?
But the big question is, who will force bounty managers to accept only copper or Member and higher ranks?

[suzanne5223]

Honestly it doesn't matter if the rank rule is applied or not. Merit can be bought. So, managers apply the jr member rule and then there will be 500 new jr members the next week. Even if they don't buy the merit, users can start meriting their alts. They may even make a post that gets them 1 merit.

While introduction of rank requirement wouldn't stop altcoin farms entirely, I still think that it would make their life much harder. And I don't think that it would be so easy to buy merit at such a larger scale without any of the forum detectives figuring out what's going on.

Yes, but it still make it more difficult for some bounty spamming to participate in some bounty.

A solution has to go further then rank.

What's your take on solution for altcoin farms abusing bounty campaigns?

The only solution I could think of is, a bounty manager, hiring a special police team, or offering a special reward for an account farming detector who will do a thorough search on every participant of their bounty and also implement the only Jr or Member rank participation in their bounty.

A special badge can be provided for bounty hunters. New members must pay 10$ to the forum to get that badge to join the campaign.

This will never work.
1) This forum was said to be free as much as possible.
2) Bounty spammer will easily pay for the badge

[DVlog]

What's your take on solution for altcoin farms abusing bounty campaigns?

A special badge can be provided for bounty hunters. New members must pay 10$ to the forum to get that badge to join the campaign. Already existing members and users above full member will get that badge as an airdrop. It is easy to get member rank by buying merits but for full member rank, it won't be profitable. When an alt farmer gets red-flagged to 10 of his account he or she will think twice before doing the same because it will cost him money this time.
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How is this different from copper membership?  Why introduce something that, basically, provides the same functionality as an existing feature?
But the big question is, who will force bounty managers to accept only copper or Member and higher ranks?

Actually, the problem is bounty managers are looking for mass workers, not quality workers. If only quality work is accepted I can bet 80% of participants will leave this work after a few campaigns. Also recently some low-rank bounty manager appears who doesn't care about their reputation and ready to promote scam project if they got money for them. I also think we should leave that matters for now.