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March 27, 2014, 11:39:54 PM
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IT´S OFFICIAL CHINA BANNED BITCOIN!
IT WAS A NICE EXPERIMENT WHILE IT LASTED!
GOODBYE

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http://epaper.yicai.com:81/site1/html/2014-03/28/content_206827.htm

央行禁止银行为
比特币交易提供服务

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  去年年底,央行曾接连出招防范比特币风险,而最新的消息显示,监管的车轮仍在向前。  

  知情人士告诉《第一财经日报》,近日,央行已经下发文件要求银行和第三方支付机构关闭多家境内比特币平台的交易账户。

  上述知情人士还透露,不久前,央行还曾召集过会议商讨如何进一步加强防范比特币的风险,会上曾提到过禁止商业银行为比特币交易提供服务。

  “如果文件真有其事,公司的银行账户可能就会被封掉,我们也只能走一步算一步了。如果用户信任我们,也许会采取个人账户汇款的方式。”比特币中国副总裁凌亢在接受《第一财经日报》采访时说。

  不过,也有业内人士怀疑这样的政策是否真的具有可实施性。火币网联合创始人杜均对《第一财经日报》说:“维持现在的状态,银行的流水都是可以查到的,我们的账户也都是实名制的,如果监管机构要我们履行反洗钱义务,我们都是可以把数据、流水拉出看的。但如果把公司的银行账户关掉,那所有的交易不都转到地下了吗?这样监管的难度就更高了。而且现在距离最后期限已经只剩20天了,我们还没有收到消息,这样对用户会不会太不公平?”

  杜均的担忧不无道理,一些业内人士也表示这次文件的下发路径有些蹊跷,不少跟此类业务相关的机构和人士均表示未收到上述文件。

  “我们的网站目前运行正常,没有收到相关消息。”比特币交易网站OKCoin创始人徐明星在接受《第一财经日报》采访时说。据OKCoin交易网站上人民币充值的提示,该网站目前有银行卡汇款和点卡充值两种方式。银行卡汇款既可以通过网银的“汇款”功能直接实现也可以去银行柜台办理汇款业务,共有13家大型银行在OKCoin可办理汇款的银行之列,收款人则是北京乐酷达网络科技有限公司,汇款经过人工确认后人民币将充值到个人账户。

  而OKCoin的点卡充值则是通过第三方支付向一个名为Coin265的游戏点卡充值平台充值购买点数,相应的点数则可在站内购买包括比特币在内的各类虚拟货币,点卡充值的好处则在于即时到账。目前OKCoin网站规定,银行卡汇款仅支持1000元以上汇款,1000元以下汇款则需要使用点卡充值。为其提供第三方支付业务的机构则包括汇潮支付有限公司等。

  去年年底,央行曾约谈十余家第三方支付公司相关负责人,明确要求其不得给比特币、莱特币(LTC)等交易网站提供支付与清算业务;并且规定对于已经发生业务的支付机构应解除合作,存量款最迟在春节前完成提现,不得发生新的支付业务。在此背景之下,不少比特币交易网站都开始寻求新的充值方式,用类似点卡充值的形式“搭桥”接入,既规避了第三方支付与比特币的直接接触,又能够实现快速充值。

  “实际上,这种连接比特币交易网站和充值页面的‘桥’就只做一件事情,就是卖点卡。并没有什么其他实际的业务。”某家比特币交易网站的负责人告诉《第一财经日报》,他所在的交易网站也采用了同样的方式,而不管通过第三方支付购买的是所谓的游戏点数还是游戏币,都是换汤不换药,最终的目的都是购买比特币或者其他虚拟货币。

  至于“封锁”银行汇款充值途径会否成为比特币交易的障碍,业内人士则表示,首先要看政策执行的力度,其次则要看比特币交易平台是否还能想出类似“搭桥”的应对招数。不过相关消息显然已经开始影响到了比特币的价格,截至昨晚9时记者发稿时,BTCC上的比特币价格已下跌近10%至每个3300元。

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March 27, 2014, 11:41:10 PM
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This is dangerous game.

If true and the US embraces bitcoin, then...

China could have taken the lead.

Just think about it politically.
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March 27, 2014, 11:41:13 PM
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March 27, 2014, 11:41:38 PM
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Exiting

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March 27, 2014, 11:41:58 PM
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Time to buy.
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March 27, 2014, 11:42:39 PM
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Is this legit?  Did china just ban bitcoin?
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March 27, 2014, 11:44:24 PM
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Is this legit?  Did china just ban bitcoin?

They have 2 weeks left to get their money out. After that all bank accounts will be closed. No more trading!

Chinese coins might hit the Western market, if there is any bid depth left until then....

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March 27, 2014, 11:46:18 PM
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Is this legit?  Did china just ban bitcoin?

They have 2 weeks left to get their money out. After that all bank accounts will be closed. No more trading!

Chinese coins might hit the Western market, if there is any bid depth left until then....

Oh alright thanks
I remember reading the april 15th article a few weeks ago
thanks for clarification fonz
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March 27, 2014, 11:46:34 PM
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Time to buy.

Time to buy very very carefully.

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March 27, 2014, 11:47:23 PM
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Once again 'fud' turned out to be true... just like with that Gox document denial.


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March 27, 2014, 11:50:57 PM
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HOLY SH$T

HOL¥ SHIT

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March 27, 2014, 11:51:08 PM
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If the Chinese government doesn't like something you know two things:

1) Its good for the people in general
2) It jeopardizes their position of power.

This is why I believe in Bitcoin. If the PRBC hates something, I personally love it. My morals dictate that I have to.

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March 27, 2014, 11:55:23 PM
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As of ~2 hours ago the Chinese BTC exchanges know nothing about this (officially)
These are unverified rumors and FUD.  source = The CEO's of the exchanges

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March 27, 2014, 11:59:59 PM
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Is this legit?  Did china just ban bitcoin?

They have 2 weeks left to get their money out. After that all bank accounts will be closed. No more trading!

Chinese coins might hit the Western market, if there is any bid depth left until then....
I'll believe it when I see it, China "bans" Bitcoin every other week. They're trying to give Chinese citizens the competitive edge before the price really takes off.
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March 28, 2014, 12:02:28 AM
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So fonzie can finally get his cheap coins and then I hope he stops trolling.
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March 28, 2014, 12:06:22 AM
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What was the price of bitcoin before China got involved?  Undecided

<$200

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March 28, 2014, 12:08:10 AM
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What was the price of bitcoin before China got involved?  Undecided

135 was the pre-China craze resistance price. And around 200 USD Chinese volumes really took off. So, somewhere between 135-200 USD seems to be the non-China pumped price.


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March 28, 2014, 12:09:52 AM
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While I doubt this is true and/or fully accurate, if major country's start to ban bitcoin for real then that means bitcoin is succeeding.

No one said taking the bankers down would be easy folks.
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March 28, 2014, 12:12:07 AM
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First they ignore you,
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March 28, 2014, 12:13:06 AM
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What does this mean? Chinese can't sell their btc anymore in China but for example on Bitstamp? How does this work with the fiat from the UK(Bitstamp) to China?

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