(AndySt) The next abuser of stake campaign?

[Igebotz]

I've compiled a list of 20+ gambling board shitposters who add nothing to the discussion; I've reported the majority of these posts, but I don't think it's enough! Will a negative neutral tag with a strong message suffice?

I don't think negative tag solve the problem and maybe it's not the best way to give it to spammers given the trust system isn't meant to tag spammers.

Oh, I just reread my previous post; I was supposed to say a neutral tag with a "strong message," but I made a mistake! I've always maintained that the negative tag is not appropriate for spammers.

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[AndySt]

Dear friends! I am very pleased that my humble person has attracted attention, which means I am popular, and it is very unpleasant that I have attracted attention in this context.
I will reveal some secrets of my kitchen, for a very long time I marked those posts to which I will answer and leave my detailed comment with the word "Yes", but after one user gently hinted that it was quite ugly and confusing to some forum users, I immediately stopped this practice and no longer do this. It is very strange to me that now it has been dragged into the light of God and they are trying to use it against me. The maximum that I allow myself to do now, so as not to get confused and forget where I should leave my comment, I leave an empty post, which I IMMEDIATELY then fill with text. Also, I don't see anything wrong with editing my posts, by the way, not the next day, but for a maximum of an hour or two, because I am VERY scrupulous about the quality of my posts and try to thoroughly reveal my thought. The next day may be due to the usual time of publication of my posts around midnight on the forum version, which is convenient for me. If this is allowed by the rules of the forum and is convenient for me, then why shouldn't I do it? Therefore, I do not scribble in ten or twenty posts for one short sentence just to fit into the minimum, as some forum members do here, and my posts are quite capacious and I protect my creative self from emotional and verbal burnout. Everyone has their own ideas about how to write on the forum, so I have this idea about it. If you have complaints about the quality of my posts, that's one thing, but when it comes to purely technical issues, my heart is filled with pain because of the injustice of such a situation. I hope for an objective attitude towards me, and not to the witch hunt.

[Solosanz]

I will reveal some secrets of my kitchen, for a very long time I marked those posts to which I will answer and leave my detailed comment with the word "Yes", but after one user gently hinted that it was quite ugly and confusing to some forum users, I immediately stopped this practice and no longer do this.

You should realize that after that user hinted me to not doing such strategy, you shouldn't do that anymore in any similar practice! there's no much difference replying word "Yes" and quoting without wrote anything.

Also, I don't see anything wrong with editing my posts, by the way, not the next day, but for a maximum of an hour or two

There's nothing wrong for editing post, but in this case you're did suspicious and it's worth to discuss.
Maximum of a hour or two, how old you're? can you count how long it is from 11 PM to 12 AM? it's really a maximum of two hours as you mentioned above?

If this is allowed by the rules of the forum and is convenient for me, then why shouldn't I do it?

I never said it's against forum rules, but this is about a rules of your campaign and the decision is depend on Caroll who're the manager of your campaign.

Everyone has their own ideas about how to write on the forum, so I have this idea about it.

This is an idea cheat how to make your post counted on the previous day since you're active on the next day, which is you're failed to meet the minimum 5 days since you're active only for 4 days/week.

[AndySt]

Solosanz: You should realize that after that user hinted me to not doing such strategy, you shouldn't do that anymore in any similar practice! there's no much difference replying word "Yes" and quoting without wrote anything.

I: For me personally, this is a very big difference, because those who know me will understand that I will answer something soon. And those who do not know, they should take it calmly, because there is nothing to read in the message yet. And formally, if the moderator has not deleted it, then I can edit this post.

Solosanz: Maximum of a hour or two, how old you're? can you count how long it is from 11 PM to 12 AM? it's really a maximum of two hours as you mentioned above?


I: Well, if you don't understand, then I'll explain it to you in a 24-hour format. How much time will pass between 23-29 of this day and 00-24 of the next day?

Solosanz: I never said it's against forum rules, but this is about a rules of your campaign and the decision is depend on Caroll who're the manager of your campaign.

I: It's really up to Carroll to decide, but not for you and not for me, and there's no reason at all to call me a abuser and start a separate topic in the forum for this.

Solosanz: This is an idea cheat how to make your post counted on the previous day since you're active on the next day, which is you're failed to meet the minimum 5 days since you're active only for 4 days/week.

I: I know this really cheater idea perfectly well, but I practically don't use it, because YESTERDAY's message, edited TOMORROW, still remains YESTERDAY's message

[Solosanz]

I: For me personally, this is a very big difference, because those who know me will understand that I will answer something soon. And formally, if the moderator has not deleted it, then I can edit this post.

If your post doesn't got deleted, it doesn't mean you're correct to use that's strategy. Moderators isn't active 24/7 and not all users will want to report a bad post either they're lazy or have personal reason etc.

I: Well, if you don't understand, then I'll explain it to you in a 24-hour format. How much time will pass between 23-29 of this day and 00-24 of the next day?

Alright I'm wrong about this, you're correct about 1-2 hours.

I: It's really up to Carroll to decide, but not for you and not for me, and there's no reason at all to call me a abuser and start a separate topic in the forum for this.

I'm only suspect you're abusing the campaign rules and I'm not even said to kick your from the campaign, all the decision will be on Caroll.

I: I know this really cheater idea perfectly well, but I practically don't use it, because YESTERDAY's message, edited TOMORROW, still remains YESTERDAY's message

Actually that's what I'm saying, you wanted your post will remain yesterday post while you're active and can post in the next day, if you not make "reserved post", all your post should be counted on the next day.

Look this, example of the June/13 where you posted on date 13, 12, 10, 9, 8 it should be count +1 of each day, so you're posted on date 14, 13, 11, 10, 9. The cycle is only from June 7-June 13 and you're only active for 4 days.

Here I will show it based on his latest 10 weeks:
June/13 = He posted on date June 13, 12, 10, 9, 8 (32 posts, spread for 5 days)
June/6 = He posted on date June 6,5, May 31 (25 posts, spread for 3 days)
May/30 = He posted on May 30, 29, 27, 26, 25 (26 posts, spread for 5 days)
May/23 = He posted on May 23, 22, 20, 19, 18 (27 posts, spread for 5 days)
May/16 = He posted on May 16, 15, 13, 12, 11 (29 posts, spread for 5 days)
May/09 = He posted on May 9, 8, 6, 5, 4 (28 posts, spread for 5 days)
May/02 = He posted on May 2, 1, April 30, 29, 28, 27 (28 posts, spread for 6 days)
April/25 = He posted on April 25, 24, 23, 22, 21, 20 (27 posts,  spread for 6 days)
April/18 = He posted on April 18, 17, 15, 14, 13 (27 posts, spread for 5 days)
April/11 = He posted on April 11, 10, 8, 7, 6 (27 posts, spread for 5 days)

[AndySt]

Solosanz: If your post doesn't got deleted, it doesn't mean you're correct to use that's strategy. Moderators isn't active 24/7 and not all users will want to report a bad post either they're lazy or have personal reason etc.

I: I repeat once again, it won't hurt anyone if such a message hangs empty for a little while, except for those who like to pay attention to it instead of reading the messages themselves, because I will edit it quickly.

Solosanz: Alright I'm wrong about this, you're correct about 1-2 hours.

I:Thank God that we at least agreed with each other on something.


Solosanz: Actually that's what I'm saying, you wanted your post will remain yesterday post while you're active and can post in the next day, if you not make "reserved post", all your post should be counted on the next day.
Look this, example of the June/13 where you posted on date 13, 12, 10, 9, 8 it should be count +1 of each day, so you're posted on date 14, 13, 11, 10, 9. The cycle is only from June 7-June 13 and you're only active for 4 days.

I: I have already participated in many campaigns, but none of them had a mandatory condition for participation 5 or 6 or 7 consecutive days a week and the participants themselves could decide when they could skip a day. And I hope that this will not happen. The requirements always included the minimum number of messages, the minimum message volume and how many days a week a person should write messages.

To be honest, I have a strong feeling that this situation has arisen due to a misunderstanding and I am happy to bring all explanations. Unfortunately, I was told about these claims only a few hours ago, so I just physically could not answer and explain something.

[Solosanz]

I: I have already participated in many campaigns, but none of them had a mandatory condition for participation 5 or 6 or 7 consecutive days a week and the participants themselves could decide when they could skip a day. And I hope that this will not happen. The requirements always included the minimum number of messages, the minimum message volume and how many days a week a person should write messages.

You're correct almost campaign doesn't have mandatory condition to be active at least for 5 days/week, but if you don't like or didn't sure can be active at least 5 days/week, why you joined this campaign then? You're free to join any campaign that you like or not.

Any participants need to read the whole rules, understand it and obliged to follow all the campaign rules. The campaign managers didn't need to follow your rules since they don't have to.

[AndySt]

You're correct almost campaign doesn't have mandatory condition to be active at least for 5 days/week, but if you don't like or didn't sure can be active at least 5 days/week, why you joined this campaign then? You're free to join any campaign that you like or not. Any participants need to read the whole rules, understand it and obliged to follow all the campaign rules. The campaign managers didn't need to follow your rules since they don't have to.

I always try to follow the rule 5 days a week, the only thing a week ago I suffered a lot with a tooth, I have bleeding from there. Now it seems to have healed, but I still signed up for a dental surgeon on Monday to remove a tooth. You have incorrect calculations, last time it was 8,9,10,12,13 that was counted. On Tuesday morning, a table appears where everything is taken into account until 23.59 Monday. If we were told to do things differently, then I would comply with these requirements. Therefore, I usually try not to write messages on Tuesday so that there are no misunderstandings about counting.

[FatFork]

@AndySt, whatever your reason, this is not the right way to use the forum. I suggest you stop doing that.

There is nothing wrong with editing your posts for grammar or spelling errors, or adding new information where necessary, but it is completely unacceptable to start writing your posts a few hours after you've reserved your spot in the thread. No matter whether Carollzinha tolerates it or not, this goes against what is considered good forum practice, and I'm pretty sure forum management wouldn't allow us to do that. Can you imagine what the forum would look like if everyone started behaving like that?

[AndySt]

@AndySt, whatever your reason, this is not the right way to use the forum. I suggest you stop doing that.

There is nothing wrong with editing your posts for grammar or spelling errors, or adding new information where necessary, but it is completely unacceptable to start writing your posts a few hours after you've reserved your spot in the thread. No matter whether Carollzinha tolerates it or not, this goes against what is considered good forum practice, and I'm pretty sure forum management wouldn't allow us to do that. Can you imagine what the forum would look like if everyone started behaving like that?

As for empty messages, it's not even a few hours, but a question of a maximum of 10-15 minutes. I can actually edit the message itself within a few hours. If it really was a matter of a few hours, the moderators and administrators would have banned me a long time ago, and the number of "well-wishers" on the forum is off the scale, who would point this out, so I am surprised and saddened that such a big storm broke out because of the observation of one person and all sorts of omissions and misunderstandings. The situation is not worth a damn.

[LTU_btc]

Dear friends! I am very pleased that my humble person has attracted attention, which means I am popular, and it is very unpleasant that I have attracted attention in this context..

So, you're pleased or it's very unpleasant?

As for empty messages, it's not even a few hours, but a question of a maximum of 10-15 minutes. I can actually edit the message itself within a few hours. If it really was a matter of a few hours, the moderators and administrators would have banned me a long time ago, and the number of "well-wishers" on the forum is off the scale, who would point this out, so I am surprised and saddened that such a big storm broke out because of the observation of one person and all sorts of omissions and misunderstandings. The situation is not worth a damn.

It doesn't goes against forum rules, so, you won't get banned. It's just not right way to post when you're in signature campaign. If it's just 10-15 minutes, I don't see issue. But if it's question of few hours, there is issue already. If you're posting in active thread, it's likely that your post will not get much visibility, especially if topic will go to next page. It is not for signature campaigns is paying money for us.
Wouldn't be better to use bookmarks on your browser to mark threads to reply later? Personally I often find interesting topics to reply, but I completely don't have time at that moment. So, I simply leave that topic open on one of my browser tabs and I return to it when I have time

[JeromeTash]

As for empty messages, it's not even a few hours, but a question of a maximum of 10-15 minutes. I can actually edit the message itself within a few hours. If it really was a matter of a few hours, the moderators and administrators would have banned me a long time ago, and the number of "well-wishers" on the forum is off the scale, who would point this out, so I am surprised and saddened that such a big storm broke out because of the observation of one person and all sorts of omissions and misunderstandings. The situation is not worth a damn.

The reason there is a storm is that what you have been doing is unethical. It's a form of "cheating" on their side of people you are advertising. I have noticed such quotes by you while trying to reply me before. I almost reported you, but I thought maybe you changed, but according to this report it seems you didn't.

Let me ask, maybe I am missing something. Why do you make empty quotes, especially towards the deadline?
Why not just reply at once?

[AndySt]

So, you're pleased or it's very unpleasant?

It was a bit sarcastic. What does it say? Bad popularity, there is still popularity. With the right mind, everything can be converted into a positive side for yourself And to be honest, of course it's unpleasant and this is not what I'm aiming for.

It doesn't goes against forum rules, so, you won't get banned. It's just not right way to post when you're in signature campaign. If it's just 10-15 minutes, I don't see issue. But if it's question of few hours, there is issue already. If you're posting in active thread, it's likely that your post will not get much visibility, especially if topic will go to next page. It is not for signature campaigns is paying money for us.
Wouldn't be better to use bookmarks on your browser to mark threads to reply later? Personally I often find interesting topics to reply, but I completely don't have time at that moment. So, I simply leave that topic open on one of my browser tabs and I return to it when I have time

I understand all this perfectly well, so I try not to abuse it and, in principle, I cannot have empty messages for several hours, so I was very upset that some of the forum members are trying to inflate the scandal from this without fully understanding. My interests are multifaceted and I have a lot of bookmarks on various issues of interest to me and I think it is unreasonable for myself to bookmark for a maximum of a few dozen minutes and I am guided by the list of my published messages in my profile.

The reason there is a storm is that what you have been doing is unethical. It's a form of "cheating" on their side of people you are advertising. I have noticed such quotes by you while trying to reply me before. I also reported you, but I thought maybe you changed, but according to this report it seems you didn't. Let me ask, maybe I am missing something. Why do you make empty quotes, especially towards the deadline?
Why not just reply at once?

It's not that it's closer to the deadline, because I try to write on the forum regularly and there are no big problems for me if the messages move forward a day. It's just that it's more convenient for me to navigate my messages and where I'm going to reply. I have a certain window in time for writing messages and I'm trying to conveniently adjust everything for this window.

[Carollzinha]

After reading all your comments & checking it carefully, Andy's journey in Stake Campaign has come to an end.

I would like to thanks everyone for your feedbacks and thanks, once again, Solosanz for all his effort in helping this forum to be a good place for everyone, no matter if they belong to any campaign or if they are just regular members. Thanks again for being so prestative in keeping this community a healthy place for everyone.

And I know some of you may have doubt about our team dropping Andy negative trust on forum and for that I would like to say that Andy was, almost always, in our top 5 best posters, even when he was not getting the prize, and it means that his quality is really good (I, personally, enjoy reading most all his posts) so a negative trust will not be dropped as it could harm his chances to get into another campaign and maybe even having him to leave the forum.. and it would be a pitty if the community would lose such a good poster. From our side the best thing we can do is to wish him the best of luck in any campaign he is gonna join & hope he can understand that this behavior is really not a good thing when you are inside a campaign.

As for our campaign, we are designating someone only to take care of these edited posts from now on. Hopefully such a thing will not happen again but, in case it does, it would be nice to count with you guys to keep sending your reports & we can work together to keep this forum as a good place for everyone.



Best Regards,
Carollzinha

[AndySt]

Carollzinha, thank you so much for your good words about me, I'm really pleased, but it was sad to read it! It is with regret, but with humility and dignity that I accept your decision. I wish you good luck and all the best in your activities!
As for Solosanz, I can't say anything about this and nothing good, unlike you, because building her name on the destruction of someone else's name in my opinion is not the best activity, but as they say, may God be the judge for Solosanz

[_BlackStar]

As for Solosanz, I can't say anything about this and nothing good, unlike you, because building her name on the destruction of someone else's name in my opinion is not the best activity, but as they say, may God be the judge for Solosanz

As @Carrollzinha said, you are a quality poster who is recognized as a top 5 poster as long as you join the Stake campaign. Everyone doesn't seem to be against you here, but simply telling the manager about the odd behavior you're experiencing right now isn't a good thing to hold on to.

If the mod handles the report in the first 1-5 minutes when the report is done, then I'm sure many of your posts have been deleted before because you were just quoting without adding anything to the post and that's spam. Obviously that's ridiculous, but luckily you got away with it and the mod may not have handled those reports from other users. So this should be a good lesson for you in the future so that this kind of behavior will not happen again.

[AndySt]

As @Carrollzinha said, you are a quality poster who is recognized as a top 5 poster as long as you join the Stake campaign. Everyone doesn't seem to be against you here, but simply telling the manager about the odd behavior you're experiencing right now isn't a good thing to hold on to.
If the mod handles the report in the first 1-5 minutes when the report is done, then I'm sure many of your posts have been deleted before because you were just quoting without adding anything to the post and that's spam. Obviously that's ridiculous, but luckily you got away with it and the mod may not have handled those reports from other users. So this should be a good lesson for you in the future so that this kind of behavior will not happen again.

_BlackStar, thank you for your kind words! I just perfectly see when my message is deleted and then a message about it appears in my profile. So, for a year and a half of participation in this campaign, I had only TWO times when I did not have time to edit and add text to my EMPTY messages were deleted by the forum moderator as spam. I repeat once again that I tried not to abuse it and within 10-15 minutes I quickly edited this empty message and entered the text there. Therefore, I now have an emptiness in my soul and a feeling of monstrous injustice from what was done to me. But I say again, may God be the judge for Solosanz, who did this to me.

[Solosanz]

I repeat once again that I tried not to abuse it and within 10-15 minutes I quickly edited this empty message and entered the text there. Therefore, I now have an emptiness in my soul and a feeling of monstrous injustice from what was done to me. But I say again, may God be the judge for Solosanz, who did this to me.

The problem is you're posted on the midnight and want your post to be counted on the previous day.

You're like saying I'm a wrong person here, it's wrong for me to tell everyone about a truth? before I create this thread, why you not tell to Caroll or create reputation thread about your strategy?

If my report is wrong, you wouldn't be kicked. If my report is wrong, many users will give opposite opinion or blame me in this thread.

Learn and correct your mistake, pathetic.

[AndySt]

The problem is you're posted on the midnight and want your post to be counted on the previous day.

There was no problem until you created this problem out of the blue.  In any case, if the messages go to the next day before midnight, there's nothing wrong with that, but for me personally it's very inconvenient, because then you need to break my whole technique of posting messages.

You're like saying I'm a wrong person here, it's wrong for me to tell everyone about a truth? before I create this thread, why you not tell to Caroll or create reputation thread about your strategy?

Because I don't want to attract too much attention to my person on such an occasion and in such a way.

If my report is wrong, you wouldn't be kicked. If my report is wrong, many users will give opposite opinion or blame me in this thread.

The campaign also does not want to attract attention to itself in this way and it is easier to stop cooperating with the person who allowed attracting attention to himself in an undesirable light. And yes, sometimes a person like you is useful to identify real violators, the most important thing is that you think about the consequences of your actions.

Learn and correct your mistake, pathetic.

Once again, may God be your judge in your activities.

[FatFork]

The problem is you're posted on the midnight and want your post to be counted on the previous day.

There was no problem until you created this problem out of the blue.  In any case, if the messages go to the next day before midnight, there's nothing wrong with that, but for me personally it's very inconvenient, because then you need to break my whole technique of posting messages.

We know very well about your "technique". You forget that all messages are archived almost instantly on external sites, and that the forum indicates the date when the message was last edited. From what I can tell, you started using this technique of posting empty posts or posts with just one word, "Yes" or "No", around July last year. So you had a nice run for almost a year. It's a wonder no one has noticed this before.

As I told you before, this is not the right way to use the forum. And, this forum would be a real mess if everyone started posting with this "technique".

Once again, may God be your judge in your activities.

This is your wrongdoing and you alone are responsible for it. Leave God out of this.