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just as the title states, a man in Japan mistakenly sent 46.3m yen to his bank account which was supposed to be shared among 436 people in their town. the article says that the man gambled away the money by withdrawing 600k yen daily for two weeks and gambles it in online casinos and when the authority finally contacted him the money has already been gambled and gone. initially the man refuse to pay back the money that was mistakenly sent to him but after some time he decided to pay it back bit by bit. the town is also suing him for this incident. you can read the full story here https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61490436now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?
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June 14, 2022, 10:43:04 PM |
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According to the link, the man was mistakenly sent the money, not that the man mistakenly sent the money to his bank account. That money is huge and the man should be blamed. He spent it so much on gambling which is another reason to blame him. All I think is that he may want to play smart, knowing authority will still come for the money, but just use it to fastly take a chance and use part of it to gamble continuously and losing it. That money is very huge for the man not to be blamed, he should be blamed.
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June 14, 2022, 10:44:04 PM |
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Yes, the man is entirely at fault, if you receive many that are not yours in your bank account the legal thing to do is to call the attention of the banks so that the mistake can be corrected not to withdraw the money that is not legally yours and gamble it away. The man did not act responsibly and has gotten himself indebted by his action I think the man also should be observed as he seems to have a gambling disorder from the way he acted. In my country, such an act attracts jail terms because that is a criminal act.
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June 14, 2022, 10:45:19 PM |
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~snip~ now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?
^ A man must wait for it who is the sender and must investigate where the fund comes from, it probably may be called, dishonesty on his side. Though that is not a man's responsibility because it was sent mystically but once the fund was not yours you should not spend it or better to wait for someone who looks to it. He has no right to gamble or spend it and that is right, paying back should be the best decision because that is his fault.
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June 14, 2022, 10:57:30 PM |
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^ A man must wait for it who is the sender and must investigate where the fund comes from, it probably may be called, dishonesty on his side. Though that is not a man's responsibility because it was sent mystically but once the fund was not yours you should not spend it or better to wait for someone who looks to it. He has no right to gamble or spend it and that is right, paying back should be the best decision because that is his fault.
I do not know how he received the money, maybe something referencing what the payment is meant for was there along with the payment, but even if it was there, the person is still to be blamed because he should know that a whole 46.3 million yen would not be for a single person as covid-19 relief. He should have reported it to his bank manager or authority. In my country, if he had reported it to the bank manager or authority, he would have been rewarded with some amount of money, some organizations would have even rewarded him for his honesty and he would have been offered jobs in higher organizations. The reward may not be up to 10 fold of the money, but his reputation would have been 10 times more.
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June 14, 2022, 11:15:52 PM |
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now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?
Bank or the sender of those funds would also be accountable for such mistake but its really just too dumb for a certain person who do received funds accidentally and make use of it to gamble even if its not his money. Both parties does have mistakes but the ones which are greater is the man who do spent out those funds without any permission or not totally his money. Its a relief funds should really be used by those people on need and you are really that too numb if you do waste up those money for your own leisure which is something inhuman.
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June 14, 2022, 11:24:01 PM |
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now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?
I believe that Japanese people are one of the most respected and most disciplined people in the world. I think we've just seen the entire effect of being addicte to gambling. The man who mistakenly sent him money was at fault but even it was mistakenly sent to him, he should haven't touched the funds and do whatever he wants from it. He's aware of the consequences of the actions he has made and also, maybe he's itching to gamble and after seeing that money on his bank account, it has ticked him to gamble no matter what happens and soon if he wins, he'll just return the money. But, the unexpected has happened and he lost all of it, now, with the consequences that he understood before doing that action, he has to pay it.
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June 14, 2022, 11:32:36 PM |
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Just confuse here, why that man didn't hit the bank alarm system because of the sudden change of activity on his bank account? As per reading the article, the man was able to withdraw 600,000 yen every day for about two weeks without a problem. Too smooth and the bank wasn't notified of the unusual activity of the bank account involved. now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?
The fact that the man should not use an amount that clearly he knows that not meant for him is already a liable case. In the first place, why used the money that he knows he didn't own.
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June 14, 2022, 11:36:54 PM |
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just as the title states, a man in Japan mistakenly sent 46.3m yen to his bank account which was supposed to be shared among 436 people in their town.
No one will believe in that story. How come he can be mistaken about it where in the first place, he knows it was supposed to be shared among 436. If we are to elaborate on the story, the man has an access to relief funds that are worth 46.3M Yen. Instead of sharing it with 4365 people, it's impossible that he didn't know that his account was the one to receive the funds. And what's worst? He knows that it was a mistake but still used it to gamble. It's a form of corruption already and this man should be sued.
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June 15, 2022, 12:16:42 AM |
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now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?
He has fault to spending money that isn't for him. But the article is lacking information, is the man have authority to receive the fund? Because the way he spent it is something like a lottery that he won receiving on his bank account, only if he literally doesnt know he should receive it. If not, the authorities mistakenly sent it to him is at fault too and should be fires on his post.
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June 15, 2022, 12:37:26 AM |
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From what I see is that the government gave them these money as sort of stimulus package to ease COVID lockdown. And this man a 24-year-old wit nothing to worry in life received these money. He must have thought the money comes from heaven so spent it. With lawyers, he can get a way with it.
However for clean conscience, he is at fault because obviously it isn't his money he knows that for sure but still spend it. The bank also didn't ask where the funds are from. If this is how Japan banks works, its heaven for Bitcoiners.
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June 15, 2022, 12:46:06 AM |
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now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?
Obviously, yes. His act was intentional and he still risks it in gambling despite knowing that those funds should not be used there. Why there should be other responsible for this wherein the case is already clear from the start. That man even is even arrogant that he doesn't want to return the money even the town officials seek help from his mother but have no success at all. That kind of person should face the consequences of what he did. Good thing that authorities didn't withdraw their lawsuit despite the man showing agreement that he will return the money bit by bit. That's not how it works.
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June 15, 2022, 01:11:22 AM |
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just as the title states, a man in Japan mistakenly sent 46.3m yen to his bank account which was supposed to be shared among 436 people in their town. the article says that the man gambled away the money by withdrawing 600k yen daily for two weeks and gambles it in online casinos and when the authority finally contacted him the money has already been gambled and gone. initially the man refuse to pay back the money that was mistakenly sent to him but after some time he decided to pay it back bit by bit. the town is also suing him for this incident. you can read the full story here https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61490436now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible? Are they definitely sure that he gambled it away? Maybe he was just secretly pocketing the money while saying he was gambling it? The man definitely should not have kept quiet about mysterious money from unknown sources but legally, its the fault of the person who sent him that in the first place. How do you screw up sending the right people the money? We are not talking about a few hundreds dollars worth of yen. Maybe it was "planned incompetence" and now criminals shared the money?
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June 15, 2022, 01:18:43 AM |
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Hmm, legally I don't actually think he did anything wrong cause afaik there isn't any kind of law that, well, tells you to return back something you got accidentally or not. If I'm wrong then feel free to correct me though. Morally, what he did was really wrong. I mean if it was a few bucks then maybe, yeah I guess I'd take it (don't call me on that), but if it was THAT big of an amount? Heck, I'd think something was wrong and try to contact the bank to ask who sent it or what the actual hell happened.
I have to say whoever sent the funds should also be accountable though.
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actually both are guilty. it's just that the sender is not careful when sending covid 19 aid money. money senders must be more careful when they want to send large amounts of money, if something goes wrong, it's the sender. and the man when receiving large amounts of money without knowing who the sender was should not use the money, and asked the bank to check who the sender was. if after checking by the bank the man doesn't know the sender of the money should not use the money and ask the bank to hold it. but i guess the man is a gambling addict so he didn't think long when he received the money. all he thinks about is getting money to gamble again
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June 15, 2022, 03:44:15 AM |
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Well! I see the man should report it to authority when he received that money and not waste it every day. Too bad, he has nothing to do in the future that's why the first he saw that huge amount of money, all in his head is to win more. I just can't understand these lunatics when they have the money, they ask for more money than they already have no matter how much is it. Of course, the one to blame is the man because he knows it is not his money and he will be tracked after a few days if he won't return it back. the good thing was, that he didn't use it all and there's some money left for the Covid-19 patients.
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June 15, 2022, 04:20:23 AM |
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I see a couple of things to comment here.
To begin with, there are those who believe that if you get money in your account by mistake, you have the right to spend it. False. You have to pay it back.
The man in the story has all the appearance of being a problem gambler, and the saddest thing is that he spent what was originally intended for low-income households, but you can see at the end of the news that the authorities have sent them the money back without waiting for the man in the story to return it.
At least the story has had a happy ending, now the man has to pay back the money.
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June 15, 2022, 04:24:38 AM |
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Are they definitely sure that he gambled it away? Maybe he was just secretly pocketing the money while saying he was gambling it?
Agree. If that's the case, telling the authorities that "I gambled it away" at an overseas online casino is a clever way of expressing, "I hid the money in my pocket so that the authorities will have a hard time dealing with the casino in giving my account details since they don't give a shit." Since the article states that it is an overseas casino, it is clear that it is not legally permitted to operate in Japan, making cooperation with them a waste of time.
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June 15, 2022, 05:02:13 AM |
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How the hell they didn't realise this for two weeks and did the banks don't investigate any further when these large sums of money are received in one's account? Although the man is at fault for gambling this big amount which was supposed to help the people suffering in his town due to pandemic but the government should also be responsible in these matters like should have been asked that whether funds were distributed or not and why they were sent to his only account? But the man is at fault but don't know how will he repay this amount.
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June 15, 2022, 05:11:40 AM |
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It's not yours in the first place, then why you should gamble that money? And I heard countless stories like this and it didn't end well with the person because this is like stealing. I know that it's the bank's fault or whoever it is, but the fact that it is not your money and for sure you know that. And then totally gamble it? This man should be jail for years and pay it.
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