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The man is entirely at fault and why? Using the money that mistakenly sent to your bank account is the same like stole money from others. The sender was also making a mistake but in front of the law the japanese guy can be arrested. As far as i know that guy already arrested by the police.
If he was sending back that money and he will not be sued by officials. Just wanna know how many years being sued to takaguchi. There's no new update about this news anymore.
What about the fault from those who processed the payments? Both the sides need to be punished IMO. Law can't be one sided. The guy probably didn't knew that he was spending money that didn't belonged to him. I am not sure how this legal battle will turn out in the court. If the payment was made mistakenly, then the individual should have been contacted immediately and informed about it. In this case, it was not done. Therefore I am not sure whether the bank can escape legal responsibility. This time they will try hard to win the trophy (same with Portugal as well, since this is the last world cup for Cristiano Ronaldo).
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June 29, 2022, 05:45:34 AM |
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just as the title states, a man in Japan mistakenly sent 46.3m yen to his bank account which was supposed to be shared among 436 people in their town. the article says that the man gambled away the money by withdrawing 600k yen daily for two weeks and gambles it in online casinos and when the authority finally contacted him the money has already been gambled and gone. initially the man refuse to pay back the money that was mistakenly sent to him but after some time he decided to pay it back bit by bit. the town is also suing him for this incident. you can read the full story here https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61490436now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible? The month who sent the money mistakenly is the one responsible for it not the others. Though, H e really needs to pay for it. Although its a large amount of money(Yen). The man also obviously the man was guilty of sending money in the wrong place. We don't know the real reason for it. Anyway, it doesn't matter to me.
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June 29, 2022, 08:03:16 AM |
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At least I still believe that there are honest people who want to return money that doesn't belong to them rather than using it for their own pleasure. Our hearts can feel it if it is not appropriate. We should try to be responsible for whatever we do and not do anything wrong to avoid creating problems in the future. If we can do that, I believe we can overcome the temptations that will come to us.
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June 29, 2022, 08:35:44 AM |
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just as the title states, a man in Japan mistakenly sent 46.3m yen to his bank account which was supposed to be shared among 436 people in their town. the article says that the man gambled away the money by withdrawing 600k yen daily for two weeks and gambles it in online casinos and when the authority finally contacted him the money has already been gambled and gone. initially the man refuse to pay back the money that was mistakenly sent to him but after some time he decided to pay it back bit by bit. the town is also suing him for this incident. you can read the full story here https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61490436now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?In my opinion, this is his fault entirely, and no one else should be responsible. Money sent to him by mistake is like someone forgot his wallet full of money at your place. Would you start gambling it away? So, I disagree with those saying, if the money wasn't sent to him there would be no problem. All of us make mistakes, but life would be much easier if others were helping us to correct it, instead of taking advantage of it.
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June 29, 2022, 10:11:00 AM |
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The man is entirely at fault and why? Using the money that mistakenly sent to your bank account is the same like stole money from others. The sender was also making a mistake but in front of the law the japanese guy can be arrested. As far as i know that guy already arrested by the police.
If he was sending back that money and he will not be sued by officials. Just wanna know how many years being sued to takaguchi. There's no new update about this news anymore.
No additional update after the arrest and the willingness of the convicted gambler to pay the amount, I'm more on the side what happen to the sender if he also being arrested or he just escape and the law accept it as a honest mistake, not sure though if he's part of the possible crime or it's just the person/gambler who spent the money that will alone suffer from the government law.
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June 29, 2022, 06:04:15 PM |
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just as the title states, a man in Japan mistakenly sent 46.3m yen to his bank account which was supposed to be shared among 436 people in their town. the article says that the man gambled away the money by withdrawing 600k yen daily for two weeks and gambles it in online casinos and when the authority finally contacted him the money has already been gambled and gone. initially the man refuse to pay back the money that was mistakenly sent to him but after some time he decided to pay it back bit by bit. the town is also suing him for this incident. you can read the full story here https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61490436now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?In my opinion, this is his fault entirely, and no one else should be responsible. Money sent to him by mistake is like someone forgot his wallet full of money at your place. Would you start gambling it away? So, I disagree with those saying, if the money wasn't sent to him there would be no problem. All of us make mistakes, but life would be much easier if others were helping us to correct it, instead of taking advantage of it. In the case of the person sending that money to his account that was just a mistake, it would be interesting to know why the mistake happened but I do not think heavy consequences should come to that person, however in the case of the gambler that squandered that money without a doubt he committed a crime and he needs to pay for it, not only by repaying the money that he claimed as his own when he knew that was not the case but by spending some time in jail.
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June 29, 2022, 10:53:48 PM |
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At least I still believe that there are honest people who want to return money that doesn't belong to them rather than using it for their own pleasure. Our hearts can feel it if it is not appropriate. Well, the world still has a lot of good and bad people so whichever you believe, you're right. We should try to be responsible for whatever we do and not do anything wrong to avoid creating problems in the future. If we can do that, I believe we can overcome the temptations that will come to us.
The temptation was there and the guy just did what he feel will satisfy him. Now, that he did it. He just need to accept and do the necessary setback of what he decided to do. If it's related to money, there will be those people that can't stop their urge on not touching it especially if they've got something to do that needs money.
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June 29, 2022, 10:57:04 PM |
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just as the title states, a man in Japan mistakenly sent 46.3m yen to his bank account which was supposed to be shared among 436 people in their town. the article says that the man gambled away the money by withdrawing 600k yen daily for two weeks and gambles it in online casinos and when the authority finally contacted him the money has already been gambled and gone. initially the man refuse to pay back the money that was mistakenly sent to him but after some time he decided to pay it back bit by bit. the town is also suing him for this incident. you can read the full story here https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61490436now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?In my opinion, this is his fault entirely, and no one else should be responsible. Money sent to him by mistake is like someone forgot his wallet full of money at your place. Would you start gambling it away? So, I disagree with those saying, if the money wasn't sent to him there would be no problem. All of us make mistakes, but life would be much easier if others were helping us to correct it, instead of taking advantage of it. In the case of the person sending that money to his account that was just a mistake, it would be interesting to know why the mistake happened but I do not think heavy consequences should come to that person, however in the case of the gambler that squandered that money without a doubt he committed a crime and he needs to pay for it, not only by repaying the money that he claimed as his own when he knew that was not the case but by spending some time in jail. You would pay the price on what you had committed since its not your money that you had spent which its really understandable that you would need to pay on what you had used even its an accident on where those funds do sent into your account.There might be some argumentation but it wont really be that much effective if we do talk about on legal process. You dont have the rights on spending up money which isnt yours considering that banks could make out reversible transactions then you could always have those kind of complaints and clarifications if you do see that your account does have big fund on it and boggling on where those funds came from.
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June 30, 2022, 04:34:39 AM |
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The world will surely have many good and bad people because it has become human nature. We can only choose to be good people or bad people. And if we choose to be good people, then we must do good things and vice versa. snip
Money is indeed the world's temptation that can undermine people's belief and trust in being a good person and that person has done it. But then, he had accepted it and had already decided to pay back what he had gambled before. This is a lesson for us not to use money that doesn't belong to us.
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June 30, 2022, 04:36:13 AM |
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The man is entirely at fault and why? Using the money that mistakenly sent to your bank account is the same like stole money from others. The sender was also making a mistake but in front of the law the japanese guy can be arrested. As far as i know that guy already arrested by the police.
If he was sending back that money and he will not be sued by officials. Just wanna know how many years being sued to takaguchi. There's no new update about this news anymore.
What about the fault from those who processed the payments? Both the sides need to be punished IMO. Law can't be one sided. The guy probably didn't knew that he was spending money that didn't belonged to him. I am not sure how this legal battle will turn out in the court. If the payment was made mistakenly, then the individual should have been contacted immediately and informed about it. In this case, it was not done. Therefore I am not sure whether the bank can escape legal responsibility. This time they will try hard to win the trophy (same with Portugal as well, since this is the last world cup for Cristiano Ronaldo). If the guys does not aware with this sending of funds to him i guess it is not his fault because there's no consciousness of it and the human errors is in the person who sent the funds but we cannot deny that the gambling makes a wrong decision too because it is easier today to trace a transaction with the banks still i guess the burden is in the side of the gambler because he use those funds to play in gambling.
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June 30, 2022, 07:19:46 AM |
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The man is entirely at fault and why? Using the money that mistakenly sent to your bank account is the same like stole money from others. The sender was also making a mistake but in front of the law the japanese guy can be arrested. As far as i know that guy already arrested by the police.
If he was sending back that money and he will not be sued by officials. Just wanna know how many years being sued to takaguchi. There's no new update about this news anymore.
What about the fault from those who processed the payments? Both the sides need to be punished IMO. Law can't be one sided. The guy probably didn't knew that he was spending money that didn't belonged to him. I am not sure how this legal battle will turn out in the court. If the payment was made mistakenly, then the individual should have been contacted immediately and informed about it. In this case, it was not done. Therefore I am not sure whether the bank can escape legal responsibility. This time they will try hard to win the trophy (same with Portugal as well, since this is the last world cup for Cristiano Ronaldo). The party who has been processing the payment is not making any mistake since the guy must aware if that funds were coming from the somewhere that they didn't know about. The sender can be checked easily through his mobile banking of something else. it doesn't make sense if he didn't aware about that funds.The bank is not making the fault in this case. The man is entirely at fault and why? Using the money that mistakenly sent to your bank account is the same like stole money from others. The sender was also making a mistake but in front of the law the japanese guy can be arrested. As far as i know that guy already arrested by the police.
If he was sending back that money and he will not be sued by officials. Just wanna know how many years being sued to takaguchi. There's no new update about this news anymore.
No additional update after the arrest and the willingness of the convicted gambler to pay the amount, I'm more on the side what happen to the sender if he also being arrested or he just escape and the law accept it as a honest mistake, not sure though if he's part of the possible crime or it's just the person/gambler who spent the money that will alone suffer from the government law. What he has done can be called as a crime. The law didn't even care what happened with the money but the law is only know if he was using money that didn't actually owned by him. I read some news in the past and some article were saying it takaguchi already arrested.
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What he has done can be called as a crime. The law didn't even care what happened with the money but the law is only know if he was using money that didn't actually owned by him.
I read some news in the past and some article were saying it takaguchi already arrested.
It is almost a steal the money that he does not own and the worst is that man uses the money to gamble and lose it. He did a mistake and need to fix it by returning the money to the bank. But I wonder why the bank employee is not mentioning it as he also did the mistake of sending the money to the wrong account number. But we learned from this case not to use the money that does not belong to us.
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What he has done can be called as a crime. The law didn't even care what happened with the money but the law is only know if he was using money that didn't actually owned by him.
I read some news in the past and some article were saying it takaguchi already arrested.
It is almost a steal the money that he does not own and the worst is that man uses the money to gamble and lose it. He did a mistake and need to fix it by returning the money to the bank. But I wonder why the bank employee is not mentioning it as he also did the mistake of sending the money to the wrong account number. But we learned from this case not to use the money that does not belong to us. Its still considered stealing but not on the sense on completely to be like that since it wasnt been forced but rather it had been gained accidentally but on that ethicality of things then its just understandable that you would really be giving it back since its not yours which you dont know if those funds is used on something more beneficial or something that could help out or even with just some personal money then its not really that right on spending on it.If your mentality is somewhat been greedy then you would definitely be doing that same on what that man did. But of course every action would be having corresponding outcome or results whether positive or negative but this one is obviously negative.Dont expect that you would be ending up on having no headache once they had been able to traced out and asking for the money to be given back.
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Money is indeed the world's temptation that can undermine people's belief and trust in being a good person and that person has done it. But then, he had accepted it and had already decided to pay back what he had gambled before. This is a lesson for us not to use money that doesn't belong to us.
It's always been a norm that don't use whatever isn't yours or if it doesn't belong to you. It's a shame if you've been using something like money that don't belong to you and you have left with nothing. As the case of OP, well, there could some other mistakes that might happen in the future and it will depend on them if they'll do the same thing but hopefully, they'll not touch any of it for them to be free from any trouble.
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July 01, 2022, 02:02:39 AM |
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What about the fault from those who processed the payments? Both the sides need to be punished IMO. Law can't be one sided. The guy probably didn't knew that he was spending money that didn't belonged to him. I am not sure how this legal battle will turn out in the court. If the payment was made mistakenly, then the individual should have been contacted immediately and informed about it. In this case, it was not done. Therefore I am not sure whether the bank can escape legal responsibility. This time they will try hard to win the trophy (same with Portugal as well, since this is the last world cup for Cristiano Ronaldo).
The party who has been processing the payment is not making any mistake since the guy must aware if that funds were coming from the somewhere that they didn't know about. The sender can be checked easily through his mobile banking of something else. it doesn't make sense if he didn't aware about that funds.The bank is not making the fault in this case. Well.. this is surprising. You are saying that the bank didn't made any mistake. Then why the funds were sent to the wrong account? And here in India, it is not possible to find out from which account we have received the money. Only the last 4 digits of the sender account will be visible to the recipient. I am sure that in Japan also, they are having a similar system. What the individual did was wrong. All I am saying that the guilty parties need to be punished without any exception, including the banking staff.
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July 01, 2022, 04:17:00 AM |
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What he has done can be called as a crime. The law didn't even care what happened with the money but the law is only know if he was using money that didn't actually owned by him.
I read some news in the past and some article were saying it takaguchi already arrested.
He deserves it since he use the money that isn't entitle for him and worse thing he did, he let it burned inside the gambling house, no one can escape that law especially in a country where honesty is being practice it's big crime inside Japan. He's already arrested and will serve his crime while trying to settle the amount that he abused to use.
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July 01, 2022, 06:04:30 AM |
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The important thing is that there are no more mistakes in sending money to the destination account so that no one will be tempted to use money that doesn't belong to them. But if later there is still an error sending money to someone else's account, hopefully the recipient of the money does not use money that does not belong to him but reports it to the bank concerned so that it will not trigger other problems.
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July 01, 2022, 06:36:35 AM |
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if he gets a severe punishment then I'm sure that person will really give up and will not repeat his stupidity again. other than that, hopefully, the media there spread the news about all of this so that other people don't do the same thing he did if they just got "wrong money sent" like this.
Well, if it's already watched on the media. Many will not do this mistake and that's for the both side, the gambler and the sender who mistakenly sent the money. They've got some moral values and issues that they're taking as pride. But it looks like not all of them are into it. Well the Japanese man had made a silly mistake to have spent all the relief fund on gambling without having remaining money he can pay back to the government. I can see that this is as a result of gambling addiction. He had been so addicted to gambling that is why he had to lavish all the relief fund on gambling without having any profit he can boast of. We need to be very careful when it comes to gambling activities cause things can go wrong anytime. Honestly the man deserve a jail term for having the boldness and audacity to spent and gamble with a money that supposed to look suspicious to him, to make matter worse he gambled with the whole money rather than gamble with the amount of money he afford to lose and can easily refund, or should have invested the money after his arrest so that he can easily refund or return the money, infact this is case of addicted chronic gambler, having lost such a huge amount of money daily he continued to gamble after streak of losses, IMO opinion the government officials should wade into the matter and find means of retrieving the money from the gambling site.
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July 01, 2022, 07:25:37 AM |
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The important thing is that there are no more mistakes in sending money to the destination account so that no one will be tempted to use money that doesn't belong to them. But if later there is still an error sending money to someone else's account, hopefully the recipient of the money does not use money that does not belong to him but reports it to the bank concerned so that it will not trigger other problems. When it has to do with fiat and bank transfer that go wrongly to accounts not made for, it can be traced and retrieved though after a while. Usually the banks have details of their customers (that is the difference with cryptocurrency) and they also have synergy with follow banks incase of those traces. Now if there is a wrong transfer made, the bank can send such information to the receiver after sometime to remit it and when this is not done then the bank can freeze the account and go after the person using the police and other legal means.
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July 01, 2022, 10:03:40 AM |
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Its still considered stealing but not on the sense on completely to be like that since it wasnt been forced but rather it had been gained accidentally but on that ethicality of things then its just understandable that you would really be giving it back since its not yours which you dont know if those funds is used on something more beneficial or something that could help out or even with just some personal money then its not really that right on spending on it. If your mentality is somewhat been greedy then you would definitely be doing that same on what that man did.
But of course every action would be having corresponding outcome or results whether positive or negative but this one is obviously negative.Dont expect that you would be ending up on having no headache once they had been able to traced out and asking for the money to be given back.
I can't understand why that person easily uses money that doesn't belong to him. He even uses it for gambling. I thought it would be fine if he could win some money but he lost the money instead and now he has to return it to the person who owns the money because the money will be distributed to other people again. Yes, it depends on our minds when we accidentally find something and take it secretly. But if we have no intention of using that much money, we will return it to the bank.
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