Japanese man gambled away a huge Covid-19 relief funds mistakenly sent to him

[madnessteat]

We all see this situation differently, but I really feel sorry for the guy. The idea is that he was hurt because of someone else's mistake. Yes, he's also partly to blame for spending someone else's money, but if it wasn't for the transfer, he wouldn't be in trouble. I sincerely wish him to sort out these problems as soon as possible and get back to a normal life without these crazy debts and jail.

[Fatunad]

We all see this situation differently, but I really feel sorry for the guy. The idea is that he was hurt because of someone else's mistake. Yes, he's also partly to blame for spending someone else's money, but if it wasn't for the transfer, he wouldn't be in trouble. I sincerely wish him to sort out these problems as soon as possible and get back to a normal life without these crazy debts and jail.

You wont really be making yourself to put into trouble if you hadnt just make use of those funds which isnt yours.Its not really that ethical of been using those funds which is understandable that it was just an accident and it is really just right that you wont really be spending those funds which it isnt yours because if you dont expect something like that where big money comes into your account then its just normal
that you would be thinking that it is someone else money and is it right really right for you to gambler those funds just because they had mistakenly sent it out into your account?
Of course not and now you would really be experiencing the consequences of the actions that you had made out.

[Davidvictorson]

now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?

Totally his fault. And it was very irresponsible of the man. The government should send him to rehab for 1 year to get some professional help. He obviously needs it. Maybe he was thinking he would double the money and then return the original amount before anyone even notices it was a mistake. That was a very wrong move.

[LUCKMCFLY]

This is a case where I am inclined because the man was not to blame, well he was to blame for betting and losing what he lost, but I am in favor of something, if a person receives money, that money is already of that person, the error was on the part of the person who sent it, when the money enters a person's bank account, I see it as entering private property, no one has the right to enter without the full consent of the person who owns it,

luckily it doesn't work that way. I am sure each country has laws that protect people, companies, banks, etc... from mistakenly sending money to the wrong person. although I see your point, it would still most likely be illegal to use the money that has been mistakenly sent to your bank account. sure we can blame the sender for the error but you'd also be blamed if you withdraw and used that money knowing that the money is intended to be sent to you.

different opinion for sure, but the amount is not something that can easily let go and the purpose is also important.

You both have your own shared opinion and there's no wrong with how you take the responsibilities of both sender and the receiver,
they both have the mistake but the big concern is the way the receiver did with the money. Losing that huge amount into gambling is
something that he's really being blamed.

Yes, we both have a different opinion, I say this because making these kinds of mistakes, at least in the country where I come from, it is very difficult to get reimbursed, however, there are people who make transfers and make mistakes in that sense, so why As long as the issuer asks for the return, the bank will not do it, but looking at it from a more ethical point of view, when the receiver realizes that it is money that belongs to another person, the duty is to return it without putting obstacles, this when verify that the money is legally from that person in question, because otherwise it would be taken as theft and it is not the idea, but in case it is in the name of a government, for example my country that is quite corrupt is different, because there are many people who would not return it if they know it is from the government. Also, for people who steal, things don't work out, just as it comes quickly, it goes quickly, that's like a divine law, that's how ill-gotten money is.

[madnessteat]

We all see this situation differently, but I really feel sorry for the guy. The idea is that he was hurt because of someone else's mistake. Yes, he's also partly to blame for spending someone else's money, but if it wasn't for the transfer, he wouldn't be in trouble. I sincerely wish him to sort out these problems as soon as possible and get back to a normal life without these crazy debts and jail.

You wont really be making yourself to put into trouble if you hadnt just make use of those funds which isnt yours.Its not really that ethical of been using those funds which is understandable that it was just an accident and it is really just right that you wont really be spending those funds which it isnt yours because if you dont expect something like that where big money comes into your account then its just normal
that you would be thinking that it is someone else money and is it right really right for you to gambler those funds just because they had mistakenly sent it out into your account?
Of course not and now you would really be experiencing the consequences of the actions that you had made out.

It seems to me that this guy was unfamiliar with the law and didn't understand the consequences of spending money that was deposited into his account by mistake. This played havoc with him. Of course, such funds should not be spent, because after the bank deals with the problem of a wrong transfer, it will write off these funds. But I still feel sorry for the guy because he could not resist the temptation and began to spend these funds.

[0verseer]

We all see this situation differently, but I really feel sorry for the guy. The idea is that he was hurt because of someone else's mistake. Yes, he's also partly to blame for spending someone else's money, but if it wasn't for the transfer, he wouldn't be in trouble. I sincerely wish him to sort out these problems as soon as possible and get back to a normal life without these crazy debts and jail.

You wont really be making yourself to put into trouble if you hadnt just make use of those funds which isnt yours.Its not really that ethical of been using those funds which is understandable that it was just an accident and it is really just right that you wont really be spending those funds which it isnt yours because if you dont expect something like that where big money comes into your account then its just normal
that you would be thinking that it is someone else money and is it right really right for you to gambler those funds just because they had mistakenly sent it out into your account?
Of course not and now you would really be experiencing the consequences of the actions that you had made out.

It seems to me that this guy was unfamiliar with the law and didn't understand the consequences of spending money that was deposited into his account by mistake. This played havoc with him. Of course, such funds should not be spent, because after the bank deals with the problem of a wrong transfer, it will write off these funds. But I still feel sorry for the guy because he could not resist the temptation and began to spend these funds.

Nah, from the news report, he actually knew the consequences but didn't really care. He knew that money was sent to him mistakenly but refused to communicate with the town office right after April 8 when it was sent mistakenly to him. He keep misuse it to gamble away since it was like he was on loans of 46.3 million yen and any winning will be his. Tho, seems like there were restrictions on the amount of deposit per day on the site he was gambling so he has to make a deposit every day. He was gambling from April 8 to 19 till running out of 46.3 million yen. Only then, at 21 April, town office is able to get into contact with the guy. Here, are some tiny bits I got over the internet for this case:

Between April 8 and 19, Taguchi had moved around 46.33 million yen out of his bank account. Some of the money had been used for debit transactions.
After they finally caught up with him on 21 April, the man informed them that the money was gone from his account and that “It cannot be undone any more. I will not run. I will pay for my crime.”

This also raises some questions: If he ever won anything from that 46.33 million yen? Or losing all of it on a bad luck streak?

[Silberman]

Receiving such a huge amount of money which is unexpected is too alarming. He should double-check it in the first place or question it but it's his fault for using it to gamble intentionally.
He really meant to spend it and he might actually have an idea that it was sent to him by mistake so he gambled it right away.

Mistakes like that happen all the time, it is very common to see stories of people receiving millions of dollars into their accounts out of nowhere, and most of the time what you see is that the people inform of the error and then it is corrected quickly by the bank without any issue, the difference is that this person saw that amount of money in his account and did not asked any questions and immediately assumed that money to be his, and now he is paying the consequences of such a dumb mistake.

That happens in the FIAT world because I have not read any story yet that says somebody by mistake received millions of dollars in crypto.That is just another flaw that is put to spotlight from the banking system compared to the decentralized nature of crypto.In crypto errors do not happen because everyone is in charge of his own money by real while keeping money in the bank,means that third parties are keeping your money and they are prone to errors and unauthorized access.

This makes me think why many people see crypto scary when in fact we should be scared from the banking slavery system.

The average person hates taking responsibility for their actions and their lives, those which have been in this market for a long time know they are 100% responsible for their money and as such they take all the precautions necessary to protect it, but other people do not want to do this, which is why even if they come to the market with the idea to make money with their investments they prefer to keep their coins at exchanges or other online wallets, defeating the purpose of holding bitcoin on the first place.

[Maslate]

That is also possible, right? But I don't think he forgot the risks entailed with it and now he should be jailed for the money that was spent in gambling activities. He should just ask the bank directly about the money that was mistakenly sent to his account rather than just throwing his life because of what the did. It's also unfortunate for that bank teller who made the mistake and I believe he/she was already jobless now.

I'm sure he knows that risk and due to his gambling problem he take that risk and gamble all the money till he losses everything,

In terms of the teller, Not sure if he/she should be sanctions since he just processing the transfer and it's the senders mistake

both sides are the liable with this and not the bank, my personal take though. Bank serves as medium for transaction and

tellers are just processing the request between sender and receiver.

So who should be blamed in the bank's side? I'm pretty sure that they are looking in their side who would take the blame so that the bank won't be heavily blamed and it will result in a human error. About the man who gambled the funds, I'm sure he's now getting dumped in the prison and who knows that man is already living in hell because the government is putting pressure on the warden (some instances these will happen).

[LUCKMCFLY]

He enjoyed using the money disregarding what will be the consequences of it. That guy should learn his lesson.

Indeed. Its a huge amount accidentally sent to his bank account, he's aware its not his money but still use it to gamble as if its his own. Instead of coordinating to the bank he gambled it away.

Now, even he return the money, it doesnt mean he's a good guy. Its his responsibility and he should face the consequence of his action.

I don't know whether to call that act irresponsible, because by playing such a huge amount of money it means that he was very aware of it, he may have shown and killed his ances for the game, but now he has to face other consequences, this wants to say that his act of irresponsibility was a gesture of immaturity, but that he will finally be able to pay and that makes him a person who is responsible for his actions, it could hardly be judged, because he is covering up the bad with an act of total responsibility, because very well You can claim that you do not have the money or the ability to pay, and you can claim that the money was in your account.

That is also possible, right? But I don't think he forgot the risks entailed with it and now he should be jailed for the money that was spent in gambling activities. He should just ask the bank directly about the money that was mistakenly sent to his account rather than just throwing his life because of what the did. It's also unfortunate for that bank teller who made the mistake and I believe he/she was already jobless now.

I'm sure he knows that risk and due to his gambling problem he take that risk and gamble all the money till he losses everything,

In terms of the teller, Not sure if he/she should be sanctions since he just processing the transfer and it's the senders mistake

both sides are the liable with this and not the bank, my personal take though. Bank serves as medium for transaction and

tellers are just processing the request between sender and receiver.

So who should be blamed in the bank's side? I'm pretty sure that they are looking in their side who would take the blame so that the bank won't be heavily blamed and it will result in a human error. About the man who gambled the funds, I'm sure he's now getting dumped in the prison and who knows that man is already living in hell because the government is putting pressure on the warden (some instances these will happen).

I wonder the same, who could judge something like that? I don't know what the laws in Japan will be like, but I imagine that they must be very rigid, but this case is very ambiguous, for my personal opinion I would say that no one is to blame, of course, there is some irresponsibility to play with so much money and bet it, I would have I did something else, maybe play but with more control and it would have multiplied, but not everything turns out the way you want.

[Peanutswar]

That is also possible, right? But I don't think he forgot the risks entailed with it and now he should be jailed for the money that was spent in gambling activities. He should just ask the bank directly about the money that was mistakenly sent to his account rather than just throwing his life because of what the did. It's also unfortunate for that bank teller who made the mistake and I believe he/she was already jobless now.

I'm sure he knows that risk and due to his gambling problem he take that risk and gamble all the money till he losses everything,

In terms of the teller, Not sure if he/she should be sanctions since he just processing the transfer and it's the senders mistake

both sides are the liable with this and not the bank, my personal take though. Bank serves as medium for transaction and

tellers are just processing the request between sender and receiver.

So who should be blamed in the bank's side? I'm pretty sure that they are looking in their side who would take the blame so that the bank won't be heavily blamed and it will result in a human error. About the man who gambled the funds, I'm sure he's now getting dumped in the prison and who knows that man is already living in hell because the government is putting pressure on the warden (some instances these will happen).

In this thing, the money cannot process without human confirmation and for sure it is already fired due to having this kind of mistake if this will become a large fund at the same time to the man who gambles there's still a case for him even though he is the one responsible for having the funds to lose but still he has an option to use the funds or to hold because it cames from unknown sources, also now transactions now easily trace with the bank because all of the give our KYC for the verification so they can easily trance it.

[Betwrong]

We all see this situation differently, but I really feel sorry for the guy. The idea is that he was hurt because of someone else's mistake. Yes, he's also partly to blame for spending someone else's money, but if it wasn't for the transfer, he wouldn't be in trouble. I sincerely wish him to sort out these problems as soon as possible and get back to a normal life without these crazy debts and jail.

You wont really be making yourself to put into trouble if you hadnt just make use of those funds which isnt yours.Its not really that ethical of been using those funds which is understandable that it was just an accident and it is really just right that you wont really be spending those funds which it isnt yours because if you dont expect something like that where big money comes into your account then its just normal
that you would be thinking that it is someone else money and is it right really right for you to gambler those funds just because they had mistakenly sent it out into your account?
Of course not and now you would really be experiencing the consequences of the actions that you had made out.

This is the essence of the problem. It doesn't matter whether he gambled it away or bought pornography or some shady stocks with the whole amount. He shouldn't be touching the money, in the first place.

What he was thinking was: "I'll win some extra through gambling and then will return the funds". Ethics aside, it's like borrowing money for gambling. No one should ever do that.

[Wakate]

This is the essence of the problem. It doesn't matter whether he gambled it away or bought pornography or some shady stocks with the whole amount. He shouldn't be touching the money, in the first place.

What he was thinking was: "I'll win some extra through gambling and then will return the funds". Ethics aside, it's like borrowing money for gambling. No one should ever do that.

Gambling is a spirit that intoxicate gamblers especially when their is enough fund to gamble with. Only himself knows how he lavish the money whether he spent part of it in hiring women to have fund with him or not. I am very sure that he did not spent all the fund on gamble even though the media does not carry it.

 He might have spent part of the fund with women not minding it the owner of the fund will come after him. Although he is not guilty because he never stole but he should have spent part of it not all.

[hahay]

This is the essence of the problem. It doesn't matter whether he gambled it away or bought pornography or some shady stocks with the whole amount. He shouldn't be touching the money, in the first place.

What he was thinking was: "I'll win some extra through gambling and then will return the funds". Ethics aside, it's like borrowing money for gambling. No one should ever do that.

Gambling is a spirit that intoxicate gamblers especially when their is enough fund to gamble with. Only himself knows how he lavish the money whether he spent part of it in hiring women to have fund with him or not. I am very sure that he did not spent all the fund on gamble even though the media does not carry it.

 He might have spent part of the fund with women not minding it the owner of the fund will come after him. Although he is not guilty because he never stole but he should have spent part of it not all.

But try to consider his responsibility, even though he has used his money and did not win in gambling, but he is willing to replace it. Unlike the case if he is unable and unwilling to replace him, then this person is clearly wrong. If you consider then basically this person has hit the jackpot without gambling, but he chose to use it for gambling which I think this person has no intention of getting the jackpot a second time but only used for fun. If he is poor he will not be able to replace the money that has been used because of the large amount, logically this person really does not need the money until it is finally used for gambling and not investing.

[Pamadar]

Yes, we both have a different opinion, I say this because making these kinds of mistakes, at least in the country where I come from, it is very difficult to get reimbursed, however, there are people who make transfers and make mistakes in that sense, so why As long as the issuer asks for the return, the bank will not do it, but looking at it from a more ethical point of view, when the receiver realizes that it is money that belongs to another person, the duty is to return it without putting obstacles, this when verify that the money is legally from that person in question, because otherwise it would be taken as theft and it is not the idea, but in case it is in the name of a government, for example my country that is quite corrupt is different, because there are many people who would not return it if they know it is from the government. Also, for people who steal, things don't work out, just as it comes quickly, it goes quickly, that's like a divine law, that's how ill-gotten money is.

Country like Japan who value more their morality, that kind of mistake can't be escape.

The government can easily detect the person who abused the money and he will be punished with the kind of crime he
made, though we already read that he's already been convicted, and he didn't deny his gambling problem, though I can
understand your point that there's a different culture that each country has and the people who's running the government.

[Zilon]

We all see this situation differently, but I really feel sorry for the guy. The idea is that he was hurt because of someone else's mistake. Yes, he's also partly to blame for spending someone else's money, but if it wasn't for the transfer, he wouldn't be in trouble. I sincerely wish him to sort out these problems as soon as possible and get back to a normal life without these crazy debts and jail.

You wont really be making yourself to put into trouble if you hadnt just make use of those funds which isnt yours.Its not really that ethical of been using those funds which is understandable that it was just an accident and it is really just right that you wont really be spending those funds which it isnt yours because if you dont expect something like that where big money comes into your account then its just normal
that you would be thinking that it is someone else money and is it right really right for you to gambler those funds just because they had mistakenly sent it out into your account?
Of course not and now you would really be experiencing the consequences of the actions that you had made out.

Of all the numerous ways he could have made some profit for himself he chose gambling which is a high probability option for a fund that was mistakenly sent to his account which shows high level of irresponsibility. If the story was that he invested in crypto and the market crashed it would have been considerable. At list chances are if the market turns bullish again he will make some profit both for himself and pay back without stress.

[mirakal]

That is also possible, right? But I don't think he forgot the risks entailed with it and now he should be jailed for the money that was spent in gambling activities. He should just ask the bank directly about the money that was mistakenly sent to his account rather than just throwing his life because of what the did. It's also unfortunate for that bank teller who made the mistake and I believe he/she was already jobless now.

I'm sure he knows that risk and due to his gambling problem he take that risk and gamble all the money till he losses everything,

In terms of the teller, Not sure if he/she should be sanctions since he just processing the transfer and it's the senders mistake

both sides are the liable with this and not the bank, my personal take though. Bank serves as medium for transaction and

tellers are just processing the request between sender and receiver.

So who should be blamed in the bank's side? I'm pretty sure that they are looking in their side who would take the blame so that the bank won't be heavily blamed and it will result in a human error. About the man who gambled the funds, I'm sure he's now getting dumped in the prison and who knows that man is already living in hell because the government is putting pressure on the warden (some instances these will happen).

In this thing, the money cannot process without human confirmation and for sure it is already fired due to having this kind of mistake if this will become a large fund at the same time to the man who gambles there's still a case for him even though he is the one responsible for having the funds to lose but still he has an option to use the funds or to hold because it cames from unknown sources, also now transactions now easily trace with the bank because all of the give our KYC for the verification so they can easily trance it.

Yes, that's for sure! There would be someone in the bank who would take the blame and that's the person who made the mistake, that was the root of the problem why the funds have gone wasted and of course the receiving party will also take the blame because how can he possibly get to gamble all that money that it isn't his in the first place. I also don't think that he doesn't know the technology nowadays, if he gambled it then he should fly across another country so that he can be off the grid but he didn't.

[Distinctin]

We all see this situation differently, but I really feel sorry for the guy. The idea is that he was hurt because of someone else's mistake. Yes, he's also partly to blame for spending someone else's money, but if it wasn't for the transfer, he wouldn't be in trouble. I sincerely wish him to sort out these problems as soon as possible and get back to a normal life without these crazy debts and jail.

You wont really be making yourself to put into trouble if you hadnt just make use of those funds which isnt yours.Its not really that ethical of been using those funds which is understandable that it was just an accident and it is really just right that you wont really be spending those funds which it isnt yours because if you dont expect something like that where big money comes into your account then its just normal
that you would be thinking that it is someone else money and is it right really right for you to gambler those funds just because they had mistakenly sent it out into your account?
Of course not and now you would really be experiencing the consequences of the actions that you had made out.

Of all the numerous ways he could have made some profit for himself he chose gambling which is a high probability option for a fund that was mistakenly sent to his account which shows high level of irresponsibility. If the story was that he invested in crypto and the market crashed it would have been considerable. At list chances are if the market turns bullish again he will make some profit both for himself and pay back without stress.

What makes you think that the bank and the government will consider it? That fund was already allocated to help the people in that town and I don't think that they have the luxury to wait for the market to recover again before they can get some help because that said fund is needed to be distributed at the allocated time.
Whatever the reason is, it is still inappropriate to waste that allocated fund especially if it doesn't belong to him in the first place.

[Falconer]

now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?

In my country, if the bank makes a wrong transfer then whoever the beneficiary will be contacted by the bank to ask for the money back if the beneficiary has withdrawn it from his bank account. In some cases the bank can immediately withdraw the money back from the beneficiary's account, I've had this happen. But why didn't it happen to the person when the bank had the power to withdraw it sooner?

In the first case, the bank and its employees are guilty of sending to the wrong account. Second, the recipient may not use the money if it does not belong to him. In my opinion, the money should be returned, but in this case the bank must also understand the financial condition of the ill-fated man. But how stupid the man was, he just didn't know where to spend that much money to be of use to his life.

[Silberman]

This is the essence of the problem. It doesn't matter whether he gambled it away or bought pornography or some shady stocks with the whole amount. He shouldn't be touching the money, in the first place.

What he was thinking was: "I'll win some extra through gambling and then will return the funds". Ethics aside, it's like borrowing money for gambling. No one should ever do that.

This is most likely what passed through his mind, if he had spend that money in something like clothes or shoes then we could say that he was irresponsible by touching money that he knew did not belong to him, however most likely when he saw that money hitting his account he thought of it as an opportunity from which he could benefit and used that money as seed capital for his gambling activities so he could multiply that money, unfortunately for him it did not worked out and now he needs to give that money back.

[Masplanc]

The man should be blame for his mistakes,  the money was too much to think of using to play a bet,  someone who is reasonable would it is very risky to use such amount of money to play gamble,  it is under probability to predict to win the money back.