Eth 2.0 can be delayed to 2024...

[adaseb]

Yes this is either a bull trap or we are all going to get short squeezed. Looking at the daily and weekly we are at major major resistance.

If these levels are engulfed then I am fairly sure $880 was the bottom due to the strength of this move. I think when we got 9.1% CPI last week and markets finished the week above that report, it suggests that many are thinking the worst is over.

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[Metroid]

Everything is done for, the plan was executed successfully, pump, steal money then dump, wait the sheeps to sell their coins they bought for 50x at 40x loss, then wait 2 - 3 years, start another scam pump, rinse and repeat. This dump phase will be like the pump phase, 2 stages, first btc went to 65k then crashed to 30k, then pumped to 69k then crashed to 17.5k as it stands, there is one more huge dump to come and this dump is called "I see and I cant believe" btc from 1300 down to 100 usd in 2013, then 21k to 3k in 2018, now likely 69k down to 6k - 9.6k.

[FP91G]

How is your mood?
Everything seems to be moving towards its end.
https://hackmd.io/@benjaminion/BkxQTpqpi9
At the end of the month, the developers will tell the latest announcements about the start of the Goerli Merge and the merge may be completed earlier than planned.
To what values will the price of the coin rise before falling?

[sp_]

At the end of the month, the developers will tell the latest announcements about the start of the Goerli Merge and the merge may be completed earlier than planned.

D.Day on the 19 september for Ethereum. But gpu mining is saved, you just have to run the Team Black Miner and the profit will be the same...
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The name of our coin is not yet decided, but it could be called The Sentient Coin. Because it is running a smarter and more secure Smart Network and need your hashing power..

[philipma1957]

The name of our coin is not yet decided, but it could be called The Sentient Coin. Because it is running a smarter and more secure Smart Network and need your hashing power..

well fingers crossed that it works well.


hmm I wonder if VB will attempt to fuck with you by delaying the pos move of eth for 2-3 months.

That would be interesting development to see.

also if eth does switch to pos in sept at say 2k coin price and tanks like a mofo to 800 people will be out for v.b

I will support mining over pos that is for sure.

[bitquad]

At the end of the month, the developers will tell the latest announcements about the start of the Goerli Merge and the merge may be completed earlier than planned.

D.Day on the 19 september for Ethereum. But gpu mining is saved, you just have to run the Team Black Miner and the profit will be the same...
--

The name of our coin is not yet decided, but it could be called The Sentient Coin. Because it is running a smarter and more secure Smart Network and need your hashing power..

LOL

[FP91G]

Vitalik Buterin's speech at the Conference in Paris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGjFTzRTH3Q&t=102s

[jseph1234]

Then Ethereum should be ready to lose its 2nd rank on coinmarketcap because its getting way too long and the more delays the more better ETH killer will be made, maybe, just maybe an ETH killer will become a reality this time around.

After Ethereum's planned brutal attack on POW it will lose it's 2nd rank anyway.

Don't believe this guy. I just DYOR on F2Pool and Ethermine the TWO Largest Ethereum Miners in the World and they BOTH are supporting Eth 2.0 Merge with POS Staking and have come out in support of it.  https://f2pool.io/mining/insights/20210225-staying-on-the-bright-side-of-history-eip-1559/

Ethermine.org POS Staking  https://ethpool.org/ 

Also His Team Black Miner is just a miner for Ethereum and Ethereum Classic so maybe he is supporting mining ETC AFTER   The Merge


DYOR

[a1 Hashrate LLC2022]

Then Ethereum should be ready to lose its 2nd rank on coinmarketcap because its getting way too long and the more delays the more better ETH killer will be made, maybe, just maybe an ETH killer will become a reality this time around.

After Ethereum's planned brutal attack on POW it will lose it's 2nd rank anyway.

Don't believe this guy. I just DYOR on F2Pool and Ethermine the TWO Largest Ethereum Miners in the World and they BOTH are supporting Eth 2.0 Merge with POS Staking and have come out in support of it.  https://f2pool.io/mining/insights/20210225-staying-on-the-bright-side-of-history-eip-1559/

Ethermine.org POS Staking  https://ethpool.org/  

Also His Team Black Miner is just a miner for Ethereum and Ethereum Classic so maybe he is supporting mining ETC AFTER   The Merge


DYOR

all the info fron your f2 pool link dates to 2021

so if they are in favor why did they not do a single article in 2022.


the link from ethpool.org does say they are taking in staking and paying 4.25%

so it means they are hedging just in case it does go pos.

so your research is at least suspect.

Simple math

1 mh earns  0.0228 usd

ethpool.org

has 259.5 th that is 5,926,600 usd earned each day

and the pool only has 23 million staked or 4 days of

 mining.

so 4/60 = 1/15  if we turn in 2 months
4/365 = 1/90 if we turn in a year.

support looks very very very slim to me,


not I am philipma1957 alt I quoted then deleted my philipma1957 post.

So once again the amounts staked are tiny compared to mining earnings

If  you have 23 dollars  STAKED and it earn 4% in a year it is only 23.92 assuming eth does not crash in price

AND CAN EARN 23 IN 4 days you would rather be earning the 23 in 4 days

vs 92 cents in a year.

btw us I bond are paying 9% from now til october

only a madman would dump 32 eth need to stake when they can buy 20k in an i bond and get 9% for the next 3 months and I am sure the bonds will pay at least 5 % from oct to may as inflation is not going to drop much in the next few months.

the miners on ethpool will desert eth in droves once moron mr vb turns it into pos

[sp_]

LOL

The problem with todays POW is that the work performed is not used to anything. What you need is a coin that can combine machine learning / AI POW into a blockchain. The 19 september will be the end of Ethereum mining, but a new beginning with the intelligent POW.

[swogerino]

I don't know if this is a true news but I saw at investing.com that were listing an article at cointelegraph if I am not mistaken that the Eth 2.0 is just one test merge away but the final implementation will only be made in late 2023,meaning that mining Ethereum will continue for at least 1.5 more years approximately.

I think people that bought cards during these last couple of months at a discount compared to the really expensive prices before made relatively a good deal.I was waiting for the prices to go down further but unfortunately it seems like this is not the right choice based on the above news.

[nesrain]

Eth 2.0 and the merge are two different things

[sp_]

Eth 2.0 and the merge are two different things

The difficulty bomb is set to explode in september, but it could be extended.. The POS founds are not released until 2024..

for noobs; The difficulty bomb will end the POW mining of ethereum, and not the Merge

[swogerino]

Eth 2.0 and the merge are two different things

The difficulty bomb is set to explode in september, but it could be extended.. The POS founds are not released until 2024..

for noobs; The difficulty bomb will end the POW mining of ethereum, and not the Merge

Yes but once this difficulty bomb is dropped basically all of us miners are out and it is the end of Ethereum mining,we don't really care much what will happen to Ethereum after that,that is why I always have opted to receive my mining payouts in Bitcoin or other crypto as I know if the difficulty bomb is dropped then the life and price of Ethereum can only be miserable.I don't know any PoS coin who has had a huge success like for example Ethereum is having in PoW from 2016 when it first came out.Stupid move by Butekin and co.

[adaseb]

I have a feeling that if we get some arbirtage opportunies in Sept with people longing ETH (before fork) and shorting Sept futures, it can give us a hint of a possible value for ETH-POW fork pretty much.

Similar to what happened with that OMG last year. We had people longing OMG on spot markets and they shorted the perps/futures just to get the free airdrop. I am thinking we see something with ETH as we get closer and closer to the date.

[swogerino]

I have a feeling that if we get some arbirtage opportunies in Sept with people longing ETH (before fork) and shorting Sept futures, it can give us a hint of a possible value for ETH-POW fork pretty much.

Similar to what happened with that OMG last year. We had people longing OMG on spot markets and they shorted the perps/futures just to get the free airdrop. I am thinking we see something with ETH as we get closer and closer to the date.

Maybe this spark will happen and bold people will take profit from such opportunity,personally though I am extremely confident that after the difficulty bomb is dropped the way for Ethereum price will only be south.

Sure it may not be this way in the first weeks after the difficulty bomb is dropped but soon after that time,until the market absorbs fully this news,Ethereum will have a lot of difficulty in keeping the price at the levels we see it right now.As I said I find it really difficult for PoS coin to do better than a PoW one.

[philipma1957]

I have a feeling that if we get some arbirtage opportunies in Sept with people longing ETH (before fork) and shorting Sept futures, it can give us a hint of a possible value for ETH-POW fork pretty much.

Similar to what happened with that OMG last year. We had people longing OMG on spot markets and they shorted the perps/futures just to get the free airdrop. I am thinking we see something with ETH as we get closer and closer to the date.

Maybe this spark will happen and bold people will take profit from such opportunity,personally though I am extremely confident that after the difficulty bomb is dropped the way for Ethereum price will only be south.

Sure it may not be this way in the first weeks after the difficulty bomb is dropped but soon after that time,until the market absorbs fully this news,Ethereum will have a lot of difficulty in keeping the price at the levels we see it right now.As I said I find it really difficult for PoS coin to do better than a PoW one.

here is what kills them.

today there is about 1 ph of hash which is 1000 th which is 1,000,000 gh which is 1,000,000,000 mh

1,000,000,000 x 0.023 usd = 23,000,000 a day income generated minus costs to make it about 6,000,000 so 17 million a day which goes poof for miners

and 6 million a day which goes poof for power companies all vanishes.

Not to mention mobos
psus.
gpus.
ssds.
usb sticks.

all goes poof.  so the 23 million a day churning day after day acts like 40 million a day or more all burnt.


what comes back

lets see. 15 million coins at 1700 = 25,500,000,000 earns 4.5% in a year = 1,147,500,000 in earnings /365 = 3,143,835

so you drop the unchurned number from 23 million a day to 3 million a day

andddd the 23 million now is working and churning as I type.

the staked 3 million a day stays frozen with no access for over a year.

I smell a huge fucking disaster the best ever in the world of crypto it should be wonderful to see. it happen.

Or maybe just maybe ETH blinks and delays to Jan or Feb 2023

[FP91G]

Do you really think mining won't end this year?
An important testnet on the Goerli blockchain is coming soon. If everything goes well, then in September the promise of the developers to complete the mining may take place.But you correctly said that the supply of new coins will be stopped.

[kensaii]

I have a feeling that if we get some arbirtage opportunies in Sept with people longing ETH (before fork) and shorting Sept futures, it can give us a hint of a possible value for ETH-POW fork pretty much.

Similar to what happened with that OMG last year. We had people longing OMG on spot markets and they shorted the perps/futures just to get the free airdrop. I am thinking we see something with ETH as we get closer and closer to the date.

Maybe this spark will happen and bold people will take profit from such opportunity,personally though I am extremely confident that after the difficulty bomb is dropped the way for Ethereum price will only be south.

Sure it may not be this way in the first weeks after the difficulty bomb is dropped but soon after that time,until the market absorbs fully this news,Ethereum will have a lot of difficulty in keeping the price at the levels we see it right now.As I said I find it really difficult for PoS coin to do better than a PoW one.

here is what kills them.

today there is about 1 ph of hash which is 1000 th which is 1,000,000 gh which is 1,000,000,000 mh

1,000,000,000 x 0.023 usd = 23,000,000 a day income generated minus costs to make it about 6,000,000 so 17 million a day which goes poof for miners

and 6 million a day which goes poof for power companies all vanishes.

Not to mention mobos
psus.
gpus.
ssds.
usb sticks.

all goes poof.  so the 23 million a day churning day after day acts like 40 million a day or more all burnt.


what comes back

lets see. 15 million coins at 1700 = 25,500,000,000 earns 4.5% in a year = 1,147,500,000 in earnings /365 = 3,143,835

so you drop the unchurned number from 23 million a day to 3 million a day

andddd the 23 million now is working and churning as I type.

the staked 3 million a day stays frozen with no access for over a year.

I smell a huge fucking disaster the best ever in the world of crypto it should be wonderful to see. it happen.

Or maybe just maybe ETH blinks and delays to Jan or Feb 2023

Funny cause with your math, it seems like ETH will be harder to get/mine with the PoS. Even with the recovery from the bear market recently, ETH show they performed far better than any cryptos, from $800 low to reaching $1600, +100%. All thanks to the news that ETH will soon switch to PoS. I remember all the PoW miners fud with their talk about how when ETH comes close to the PoS merge, ETH price will drop, lol.
The game will soon be over the ETH PoW miners and they keep crying about 'my loss in all of my investment at GPUs, Mobo,...' Want to play a safe game in cryptos? 100% guaranteed of ROI and profit after that? The line keeps going up forever just by buying this GPU and mining, taking profit and repeat?
Why it was so hard to get the ETH PoW miners to understand ETH isn't just existed for your guys, the miners? That your guys goal ain't align with the majority of ETH holders anymore.

[JayDDee]

I remember all the PoW miners fud with their talk about how when ETH comes close to the PoS merge, ETH price will drop, lol.

Miners certainly have a different "perspective" than investors. It's the investers that matter, we're just the unskilled labour
in the equation.

From an investment point of view the issue seems to be the reduced circulation caused by the POS lockup. Comparing it to the fixed income
market, capital raised by bonds stays in circulation.