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June 15, 2022, 12:25:10 PM
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So here's another case of "shoot first, ask questions later" My two page post called " Is trading volume an important metric? " Just got deleted by moderators. It had about 15 replies, most of which were highly informative. But just about 2 hours ago, I posted something the moderators didn't like, and boom ! whole thread is gone. WTF !! What is this ? No freedom of speech ? So this is pretty much another Reddit ? Okay.
And FYI, the offending comment was about an Altcoin that had gone several million percent in one day, and no, it's not me trying to pump a new scam coin or anything, this really did happen, I took screenshots and have proof. I won't name that project because the moderators really pissed me off here, so now you go and find what this project's name is.

So Moderators:

Next time something sounds unbelievable make sure you check your sources first, and don't rush to conclusions and delete the thread because it might just be true, as in this case.
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June 15, 2022, 12:30:25 PM
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So here's another case of "shoot first, ask questions later" My two page post called " Is trading volume an important metric? " Just got deleted by moderators. It had about 15 replies, most of which were highly informative. But just about 2 hours ago, I posted something the moderators didn't like, and boom ! whole thread is gone. WTF !! What is this ? No freedom of speech ? So this is pretty much another Reddit ? Okay.
And FYI, the offending comment was about an Altcoin that had gone several million percent in one day, and no, it's not me trying to pump a new scam coin or anything, this really did happen, I took screenshots and have proof. I won't name that project because the moderators really pissed me off here, so now you go and find what this project's name is.

So Moderators:

Next time something sounds unbelievable make sure you check your sources first, and don't rush to conclusions and delete the thread because it might just be true, as in this case.

Next time you open you mouth you make sure you know what you're talking about.
Your topic is not removed. Your topic was probably related to altcoins, since I can see it under Altcoin Discussions. Probably it was moved there.
This is your topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5402578.0

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June 15, 2022, 12:33:17 PM
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So here's another case of "shoot first, ask questions later" My two page post called " Is trading volume an important metric? " Just got deleted by moderators. It had about 15 replies, most of which were highly informative. But just about 2 hours ago, I posted something the moderators didn't like, and boom ! whole thread is gone. WTF !! What is this ? No freedom of speech ? So this is pretty much another Reddit ? Okay.
And FYI, the offending comment was about an Altcoin that had gone several million percent in one day, and no, it's not me trying to pump a new scam coin or anything, this really did happen, I took screenshots and have proof. I won't name that project because the moderators really pissed me off here, so now you go and find what this project's name is.

So Moderators:

Next time something sounds unbelievable make sure you check your sources first, and don't rush to conclusions and delete the thread because it might just be true, as in this case.

OP, it's okay, don't panic. Your post has been moved to another section because it appears the original location did not match where it was posted.
For the future, before creating and accusing moderators of injustice, look at the history of your messages.
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June 15, 2022, 12:35:20 PM
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But just about 2 hours ago, I posted something the moderators didn't like, and boom ! whole thread is gone.
Not your whole thread is gone or deleted. It was just moved to another board. You should know the forum has different boards, child boards and threads must be in a relevant board or child board.

Maybe you were panic and did not know how to check your past topics. You can find them with

Read the Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ. Many things to read but first, for your current concern, let's take a look at board description as I quoted.
Guidelines for threads

Some boards which are obvious were left out of the list


Section: Bitcoin

Bitcoin Discussion - "General discussion about the Bitcoin ecosystem that doesn't fit better elsewhere. News, the Bitcoin community, innovations, the general environment, etc. Discussion of specific Bitcoin-related services usually belongs in other sections."

Legal (child board of Bitcoin Discussion) - Discussion about laws regarding Bitcoin, it's companies (in general), "court cases, complaints, regulatory actions, etc."

Press (child board of Bitcoin Discussion) - Articles about Bitcoin with links with the appropriate title format.

Meetups (child board of Bitcoin Discussion)- Bitcoin related meetups, conferences, discussion and announcements of such events.

Development & Technical Discussion - "Technical discussion about Satoshi's Bitcoin client and the Bitcoin network in general. No third-party sites/clients, bug reports that do not require much discussion (use github), or support requests. "

Wallet software (child board of Development & Technical Discussion) and it's child boards - Discussions, technical support about other clients such as Electrum, Armory, a variety of hardware wallets, etc.

Mining - Discussion about Bitcoin mining in general (discussions that don't fit in its child boards).

Mining support (child board of Mining) - Problems with mining (rig stopped/doesn't start, miner not hashing), "getting started" guides.

Pools (child board of Mining) - Discussion about Bitcoin mining pools, announcements of such pools. Multipools with Bitcoin as a possible mining cryptocurrency are welcome.

Mining software (miners) (child board of Mining) - Discussion, announcements of Bitcoin mining software.

Hardware (child board of Mining) - Discussion about Bitcoin mining hardware, new hardware announcements. No trades.

Mining speculation (child board of Mining) - Speculation about mining hardware (will this rig break even, when, etc.), difficulty (predictions about it rising/falling), profitability (is this rig profitable, should I mine with such price of electricity, etc.), etc.

Bitcoin Technical Support - Problems, issues with the Satoshi's Bitcoin client (bitcoin-qt, bitcoind). Issues with other clients should go to the Alternative clients board.

Project Development - Organization of Bitcoin and related projects (sites, software not yet developed/in development), bounty campaigns, advertising etc. No hiring here although "looking for partners" threads should be here.

Section: Economy

Economics - Discussion about economics in general: this includes both Bitcoin and fiat.

Speculation (child board of Economics) - Speculations about Bitcoin's price, predictions.

Marketplace - Business / trading with Bitcoin related threads that don't fit into other sections.

Goods (child board of Marketplace) - Trades of physical goods on-forum for Bitcoin. If you are selling goods on another site (e.g. have an online store), it doesn't belong here.

Collectibles (child board of Goods) - Trades of physical collectible items ("Including physical Bitcoin coins" as the board's subtext states). If you are selling these collectibles on another site (e.g. have an online store), it doesn't belong here.

Digital goods (child board of Goods) - Trades of digital goods on-forum for Bitcoin (except for invites and accounts). If you are selling goods on another site (e.g. have an online store), it doesn't belong here.

Invites & Accounts (child board of Digital goods) - Trades of site invites and accounts. If you are selling accounts on another site (e.g. have an online store), it doesn't belong here.

Computer hardware (child board of Goods) - Trades of mining hardware on-forum for Bitcoin. If you are selling goods on another site (e.g. have an online store), it doesn't belong here.

Services (child board of Goods) - Services provided/demanded on-forum for Bitcoin. If you are providing/demanding services on another site (e.g. have a hosting site), it doesn't belong here.

Currency exchange (child board of Marketplace) -  Buying/selling bitcoins using other fiat currencies.

Gambling (child board of Marketplace) - "Gambling and all "investments" that are so risky they might as well be gambling (HYIPs, pyramid schemes, etc.)"

Games and rounds (child board of Gambling) - "Spreadsheet games, forum-based games, and discussion of individual rounds/games on other sites." All Bitcoin giveaways, raffles, contests also go here.

Investor-based Games (child board of Gambling) - "Games where the main factor is whether or not new "investors" join the game. Also any Bitcoin-denominated investment product with an APY far above the reasonable market rate. " That includes ponzis, HYIP and other "invest and get tons of cash tomorrow" type sites.

Gambling discussion (child board of Gambling) - "Discussion of sports games and other gambling-related topics which are separate from games and services themselves. ".

Lending (child board of Marketplace) - "Lend BTC or get loans of BTC." This includes loans to individuals and loans to companies.

Long-term offers (child board of Lending) - "Long-term offers to lend BTC or receive loans of BTC, including deposit accounts. "

Securities (child board of Marketplace) - "This section is for topics about individual Bitcoin bonds, stocks, etc."

Auctions (child board of Marketplace) - "Auctions may optionally be placed in this section. Topics and replies in this section can't be modified or deleted. "

Service Announcements (child board of Marketplace) - "New services and significant information about existing services. Do not create excessive "announcements" just to advertise your service." All Bitcoin service website announcements should go here.

Micro Earnings (child board of Service Announcements) - "Faucets, rotators, web based games, and other services that are primarily based on ads and/or micropayments." That includes a lot of websites that payout either dust or near dust amounts of Bitcoin.

Service Discussion (child board of Marketplace) - "Comments and questions about specific Bitcoin services or about all Bitcoin services." This includes discussion of Bitcoin sites (both specific and in general), discussion about technical problems of such sites (API doesn't work, etc.).

Web Wallets (child board of Service Discussion) - "Discussion about online wallets.". This includes client-side Javascript based wallets like Blockchain.info, as well as exchange accounts that double as a wallet like Coinbase.

Exchanges (child board of Service Discussion) - "Discussion about specific exchanges, Bitcoin ATMs, and Bitcoin debit cards. ". Emphasis on Bitcoin - discussions about altcoin issues on exchanges don't belong here.

Trading Discussion -  "Discussion about doing business with Bitcoin. Best trading practices, delivery methods etc.". Specific site, exchange discussions don't go here. If you are having problems conducting a trade, need to know the best way to ship a miner to a certain place then this is the place to do it.

Section: Other

Politics & Society - Discussion about politics, recent event in the world - both related and unrelated to Bitcoin.

Beginners & Help - All primitive questions (to pros like us Cool) like "what are ASICS", "who is satoshi" and "what is mining" should stay here.

Off-topic - "Other topics that might be of interest to bitcoiners"

Serious discussion - "More serious discussion. No advertising of any kind. No junk posts. ". Unlike in most other main section boards, altcoin talk here is OK. You must be a Jr Member to post in this board. Posts in this board do not increase your post count.

Ivory Tower (child board of Serious discussion) - "Even more serious discussion. [Full] Members and above only. No advertising of any kind. No junk posts.". Same as Serious discussion in terms of altcoin content. Posts in this board do not increase your post count nor do they count towards your activity.

Section: Alternate cryptocurrencies

Altcoin Discussion - "Discussion of cryptocurrencies other than Bitcoin. Note that discussion of how these currencies *relate to* Bitcoin may fit in other categories. ". Generic coin discussion threads or discussion about altcoin prices do not belong here.

Announcements (Altcoins) - Altcoin announcements, generic (usually announcement like) coin discussion threads.

Tokens (Altcoins) (child board of Announcements (Altcoins)) - Altcoin token (an altcoin entity / thing that relies on another altcoin's infrastructure to function) announcements, generic (usually announcement like) token discussion threads.

Mining (Altcoins) - Altcoin mining discussion. This includes discussion of PoW mining, PoS staking as well as other mining-like activity (e.g. dedicated devices, software, troubleshooting etc.).

Pools (Altcoins) (child board of Mining (Altcoins)) - Discussion and announcements of altcoin mining pools.

Marketplace (Altcoins) -  On-forum sale of goods and services either altcoin related or sold for altcoins.

Bounties (Altcoins) (child board of Marketplace (Altcoins)) -  "Altcoin bounties and ad campaigns". Bounties, advertisement campaigns, announcement of external giveaways (that do NOT require posting on Bitcointalk) and other similar threads belong here. Discussions about such campaigns / services do not belong here.

Service Announcements (Altcoins) (child board of Marketplace (Altcoins)) - Announcement of external services that are directly related to or accept altcoins.

Service Discussion (Altcoins) (child board of Marketplace (Altcoins)) - Discussion of altcoin services (both external and on-forum). This includes discussions about bounties.

Speculation (Altcoins) - Discussion about altcoin prices. This includes discussion about portfolios ("what altcoins are you holding?"), price predictions ("is coin X going to reach 10$ next week?" or "why is this coin's price so low?") and general speculation ("are the altcoin markets crashing?").

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June 15, 2022, 01:07:53 PM
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So here's another case of "shoot first, ask questions later" My two page post called " Is trading volume an important metric? " Just got deleted by moderators. It had about 15 replies, most of which were highly informative. But just about 2 hours ago, I posted something the moderators didn't like, and boom ! whole thread is gone. WTF !! What is this ? No freedom of speech ? So this is pretty much another Reddit ? Okay.
And FYI, the offending comment was about an Altcoin that had gone several million percent in one day, and no, it's not me trying to pump a new scam coin or anything, this really did happen, I took screenshots and have proof. I won't name that project because the moderators really pissed me off here, so now you go and find what this project's name is.

So Moderators:

Next time something sounds unbelievable make sure you check your sources first, and don't rush to conclusions and delete the thread because it might just be true, as in this case.

Before complaining better check first your post history if the thread you created is deleted or not because from their you can find out if that one move to another section. If your thread deleted you can receive a message in your inbox about that situation. Also post your created thread on the right board so that it will not moved by moderators as well as you will help them minimize their work loads.

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June 15, 2022, 01:52:50 PM
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If your thread deleted you can receive a message in your inbox about that situation.
As far as I know, you don't receive any message if your thread is deleted. You receive message regarding the post deletion only if your reply is deleted.

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June 15, 2022, 02:42:41 PM
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If your thread deleted you can receive a message in your inbox about that situation.
As far as I know, you don't receive any message if your thread is deleted. You receive message regarding the post deletion only if your reply is deleted.
you are right that mate and OP don't panic before you complain take break and do some research or find where's your topic goes to. What other talking about is that your topic has not been deleted but moved to the section or board where your topic is fit. For example your topic is all about altcoins Then you posted it here in B and H  so there's a big chance that your topic will be moved to the altcoin section where it's fit.
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FYI

I just double checked the "See replies to your posts" feature ( as I had done prior to posting this thread ) and the other thread is STILL not there. My thread " Is Celsius in trouble ? " that one is there, nice and clear. So it's not my fault this site can not update properly.
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June 15, 2022, 02:56:38 PM
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I just double checked the "See replies to your posts" feature ( as I had done prior to posting this thread ) and the other thread is STILL not there. My thread " Is Celsius in trouble ? " that one is there, nice and clear. So it's not my fault this site can not update properly.

Show new replies to your posts just shows a list of threads where you posted (OP or not) that have new replies that you have not read yet. If your thread DOES NOT have new replies it WILL NOT show up there.

Your account is almost 1 year old and asking dumb questions like these ? SMF must be harder than crypto analysis !  Roll Eyes

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FYI

I just double checked the "See replies to your posts" feature ( as I had done prior to posting this thread ) and the other thread is STILL not there. My thread " Is Celsius in trouble ? " that one is there, nice and clear. So it's not my fault this site can not update properly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3395903;sa=showPosts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=3395903;sa=showPosts

You are too prejudiced. I showed you the link to watch the story. But as I understand it, you lost all your open topics? The site, that is, the forum tries to be very friendly to users, so try and behave yourself as well.
Just go to your story and find all your lost topics there. They are alright.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5402574.msg60356812#msg60356812


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OP, before making angry rant, please check thing because your thread wasn't deleted, just moved to another board. Now you just did "Shoot first, ask questions later". And mods probably were right by moving your topic to altcoin board. It wasn't related to Bitcoin at all.
P.S. What is "two page post"? Your posts consist 3 sentences, not 2 pages. But it have 2 (now 3) pages of replies.
P.S.2 Number of replies to your topic isn't sign of quality. Actually, more replies topic get, more likely it will turn into spam megathread.

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June 15, 2022, 08:36:41 PM
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FYI

I just double checked the "See replies to your posts" feature ( as I had done prior to posting this thread ) and the other thread is STILL not there. My thread " Is Celsius in trouble ? " that one is there, nice and clear. So it's not my fault this site can not update properly.

FYI, It's definitely your fault.

1. You ignore the forum rules, by making topics in the wrong boards.
2. Instead of asking, you started ranting and accusing moderators for no reason.
3. If you do not know how to find your posts and threads, use the proper forum software features: Go to your profile summary, and at the bottom of the page you will see two options:
4. It would be common courtesy to at the very least thank those who helped you and to admit your own mistake after being pointed out, but you continue your offensive rant like a full-fledged troll. It's never too early to start learning manners.
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So here's another case of "shoot first, ask questions later" My two page post called " Is trading volume an important metric? " Just got deleted by moderators. It had about 15 replies, most of which were highly informative. But just about 2 hours ago, I posted something the moderators didn't like, and boom ! whole thread is gone. WTF !! What is this ? No freedom of speech ? So this is pretty much another Reddit ? Okay.
And FYI, the offending comment was about an Altcoin that had gone several million percent in one day, and no, it's not me trying to pump a new scam coin or anything, this really did happen, I took screenshots and have proof. I won't name that project because the moderators really pissed me off here, so now you go and find what this project's name is.

So Moderators:

Next time something sounds unbelievable make sure you check your sources first, and don't rush to conclusions and delete the thread because it might just be true, as in this case.


I'm surprised the moderator didn't delete this post. Look at what you are posting!  You have a problem with a moderator. Instead of sending him a PM, you open another post. You just validated the moderators action against you. Anyway, I'm sure have other topics to discuss so I suggest you archive this one.   Shocked Shocked  Shocked
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June 15, 2022, 09:23:57 PM
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As far as I know, you don't receive any message if your thread is deleted. You receive message regarding the post deletion only if your reply is deleted.
I don't if I got you wrong here.

I have never had my OP deleted, so I don't know what happens.

If I started my post (OP) and it got several replies and then got deleted by mods, as per your statement, does this mean I won't receive any single notification in my email about the deletion?

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FYI

I just double checked the "See replies to your posts" feature ( as I had done prior to posting this thread ) and the other thread is STILL not there. My thread " Is Celsius in trouble ? " that one is there, nice and clear. So it's not my fault this site can not update properly.
perhaps you should have followed your own advice "Next time something sounds unbelievable make sure you check your sources first, and don't rush to conclusions". you know you could have easily checked your profile and then click "Show the last topics started by this person" to see whether your post is still there or if it has been deleted.

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June 15, 2022, 10:12:14 PM
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If I started my post (OP) and it got several replies and then got deleted by mods, as per your statement, does this mean I won't receive any single notification in my email about the deletion?
You wouldn't receive any message.
When a thread is deleted, it's actually moved to trashcan and you wouldn't be any notification for that.

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Len Saldua, you were obviously in a hurry and came to the wrong conclusions.
Other members of the forum have already explained to you in great detail what actually happened and why.
Since you have already received an answer to your question, I suggest you lock this topic and continue writing in your topic that you started.
Next time be more careful and don't rush to conclusions, ok?

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Len Saldua, you were obviously in a hurry and came to the wrong conclusions.
Other members of the forum have already explained to you in great detail what actually happened and why.
Since you have already received an answer to your question, I suggest you lock this topic and continue writing in your topic that you started.
Next time be more careful and don't rush to conclusions, ok?


Len Saldua please listen to Daniel.

You don't need "to open closed wounds on your body". Just lock this topic and create a suitable one. Bitcoin talk users are aware of your claim and I'm sure no moderator is taunting you. My comments (for instance) has been deleted multiple times and I never went on a personal vendetta on any moderator. They are simply doing their job. It's not easy for them to check post and read line by line just to make sure users adhered to rules. Please...
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It's funny how you are complaining about the admins shooting first and asking questions later when you just fired at all the admins and asked questions after emptying your magazine. Both of your low-value, no-effort threads are still there. They are in the Altcoin Discussion board.

You seem to lack knowledge of how some of the forum features work like the "See replies to your posts" feature. But apparently, the admins are at fault for that as well. After being proven wrong, can you admit you made a mistake by shooting at the admins and asking them questions later? Or is this a quiet admission of guilt?

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June 18, 2022, 07:39:09 PM
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So Moderators:

Next time something sounds unbelievable make sure you check your sources first, and don't rush to conclusions and delete the thread because it might just be true, as in this case.
I'm surprised the moderator didn't delete this post.
Deleting the post (as you would've wanted) will mean deleting this thread and making the OP think the worst of it. It would also cast the moderators in bad light. That would simply mean that someone is trying hard to stifle free speech here. People have a right to air their views and be expectedly heard. The only nag in this is that OP was hasty in their conclusion as it brought them to the wrong action of falsely accusing mods. As has been explained to the OP that their thread wasn't deleted but moved to the appropriate section of the forum, it would be expected now that this thread be locked as it has served its usefulness to the fullest.

OP, kindly lock this thread or ask the mods to do so.

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