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September 24, 2022, 10:33:10 AM
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Lately, My personal opinion on Metaverses as an industry and business model has changed and switched negatively
Honestly, it has changed negatively for the majority.

After all of those prices of the NFTs to drop a lot and the others have been using NFTs as a gateway for their scamming activities, it has made really a big negative impact to the community.

Not saying that all of them are scams but in the near future, I guess we'll see a better environment than of these for casinos.



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September 24, 2022, 01:26:30 PM
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In the future i think its not so far fetch after all to play and travel around the world while at home. the way its been described by Cyrus will actually work best for metaverse casinos than what Zuckerberg have in mind.  i think this is where we can chat on the poker table and make bluffs.

That's good news, I don't really like what Mark Zuckerberg is trying to do withe the metaverse. All the promotions I see make me wonder why the visuals are so outdated and what's the real point of. I am trying to stay as much as possible away from Meta products and will not join the Zuckerberg metaverse. It's great that there is now competition and I hope the Chinese version is more successful. Metaverse casinos seem like the next big step in gambling world. Visiting physical casinos was always a very social experience, drinking with friends, gambling with money while interacting with strangers, witness crazy winnings bt the most random people. It would be nice if all those things could also be experienced in the online gambling community.
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September 24, 2022, 05:57:30 PM
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I think this is a dubious alternative to reality. I can watch cartoons or be in AR/VR at any time, but this is not a substitute for reality. A picture or a pretty video of food is no substitute for a real dinner, and a picture of a girl is no substitute for a girl (I think you know what I mean) haha. When technology reaches the level to make a subtle replacement for these things, then all this will become relevant, but not before.

I get your point, but the technology is already there for us to have a glimpse of some place we haven't been to before and be 'in' there virtually. Actual physical experience will always top AR/VR experience, but for those who don't have the luxury and time to actually go to some place, this can somewhat be a good substitute. Rich people that don't have much time to visit a casino can opt to use a VR casino if they want to. The experience would be entirely different, but at the least it fulfill his/her gambling itch somewhat.

You are right about the visual experience, it can be at least some kind of substitute for the actual physical presence. But if we talk about the casino, what is the point of using these technologies if the main goal of a gambler is to enjoy the game itself and not its visualization? Visiting a real casino is also associated with demonstrating one's status, but this cannot be done using VR technologies, which means that there is only one goal - gambling. And gambling is perfectly accessible without these unnecessary complications.
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September 24, 2022, 07:05:13 PM
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Lately, My personal opinion on Metaverses as an industry and business model has changed and switched negatively
Honestly, it has changed negatively for the majority.

After all of those prices of the NFTs to drop a lot and the others have been using NFTs as a gateway for their scamming activities, it has made really a big negative impact to the community.

Not saying that all of them are scams but in the near future, I guess we'll see a better environment than of these casinos.

I have high expectations for NFTs before not until I've seen projects that I have invested in failed and turned into a rug pull. Many scammers have used NFTs to fool their investors and to gain money. I think NFTs still need more developments and improvements for projects to last longer in the future. We'll see it when the market goes back to normal and when NFTs rise again.
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September 24, 2022, 08:18:10 PM
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In the future i think its not so far fetch after all to play and travel around the world while at home. the way its been described by Cyrus will actually work best for metaverse casinos than what Zuckerberg have in mind.
The Chinese can do a great job with tech undoubtedly and make improvements to someone's technology, and now that they have had an extra funding at a time Zuckerberg is facing economical downturns on his investment in the metaverse, they are definitely in line to better Zuckerberg's idea. Also the competition about the metaverse space is healthy and good as we are certain that when the metaverse is fully operational, we will be getting the best. Meta Casinos will be a new evolution to gambling.
I think you are right because the Chinese have what it take with there population and market to take the metaverse game to the next level looking at the big support from Alibaba and other great companies. I will really hope on this and look forward on how this plan is going to work well since it supported the original goal of Mark Zuckerberg of taking the metaverse to the next work. I have also seen interesting metaverse games that really makes sense with lots of usage and features that will keep making the metaverse a eyeing and lucrative venture.

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September 26, 2022, 10:27:08 AM
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Honestly, it has changed negatively for the majority.

After all of those prices of the NFTs to drop a lot and the others have been using NFTs as a gateway for their scamming activities, it has made really a big negative impact to the community.

Not saying that all of them are scams but in the near future, I guess we'll see a better environment than of these casinos.

I have high expectations for NFTs before not until I've seen projects that I have invested in failed and turned into a rug pull. Many scammers have used NFTs to fool their investors and to gain money. I think NFTs still need more developments and improvements for projects to last longer in the future. We'll see it when the market goes back to normal and when NFTs rise again.
Well, I think that many have that expectation for NFTs before during the bull run. Many think that it's a disruptive new trend and market that's here to stay together even if the bear market comes.

But, it turned out that it's not.

Majority if not most of them, are already have lost their value and track. Those that are enthusiastic about it before have already changed what they think about it.



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September 26, 2022, 07:40:26 PM
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if this is not created by Chinese, do you think there will be more hype on this development?
Hype or not depends on marketing to promote this metaverse to the community, when management and developers want to provide full support by means of a very large promotion then it will become hype and have a chance to become even bigger, but if there is no good marketing strategy then this circulation of metaverse will disappear like the others.
Metaverse gained a lot of hype when people first learned about it but as time goes by, I guess people still coming back to its traditional way wherein they get more thrilled and excitement. Although metaverse keeps on advancing us, but I don’t see it’s for long term as it may be temporarily hyped and may eventually end up as nothing in the future.

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September 26, 2022, 07:56:00 PM
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I think being able to sit around a poker table, chat and bluff, or even play one-armed bandit in the virtual reality of the metaverse is only a small possibility of such a grand project. With time, when technology will be even more perfect than now you will be able to travel around the world and visit any casino in any part of the world. Cheesy Or at least buy clothes at the mall flirting with the saleswomen. It all looks futuristic now, but I think it will be 10-20 years before such things are realised.

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September 27, 2022, 11:01:29 PM
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Metaverse is going to be big for gambling but it will take some time before it becomes popular. It can be compared to virtual reality. How many people you know who use VR setup at least once a week? Probably not many.  

I have high expectations for NFTs before not until I've seen projects that I have invested in failed and turned into a rug pull. Many scammers have used NFTs to fool their investors and to gain money. I think NFTs still need more developments and improvements for projects to last longer in the future. We'll see it when the market goes back to normal and when NFTs rise again.

They failed not because NFTs as the idea are bad but because most of these projects were overhyped and their value came from people scamming others by insider trading and inflating prices.
Most altcoins fail but it doesn't mean cryptocurrency is bad. NFTs will get their use but it's going to take years and those won't be the same NFTs people were hyped for now like those monkeys and penguins they were collecting.

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September 27, 2022, 11:15:15 PM
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In the future i think its not so far fetch after all to play and travel around the world while at home. the way its been described by Cyrus will actually work best for metaverse casinos than what Zuckerberg have in mind.  i think this is where we can chat on the poker table and make bluffs.
We can still do it, get all the players on a zoom call and virtual table lol

Anyways, online gambling is already massive. Even in developing and poor nations. You can already sit on a live table and watch its stream. I don't think metaverse will ad anything major to the current experience.

In a way, you can already call online gambling a metaverse of its own.

And alibaba and facebook aren't going to allow gambling to bloom anytime soon in their metaverse. They will be looking for a healthy growth focused on positive interests. Gambling is a very negative activity. It will be censored to hell in the initial stages of upcoming metaverses.


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just saw this video published today by Cyrus Janssen.  although he isn't providing link to what he is actually talking about. I did some googling which i found these:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-29/alibaba-makes-metaverse-bet-in-china-s-magic-leap-rival
https://www.alibabacloud.com/solutions/metaverse

i didn't know how AR differs to VR. Alibaba will be creating the worlds shopping center where you can use the headset and just literally going to experience this metaverse.

In the future i think its not so far fetch after all to play and travel around the world while at home. the way its been described by Cyrus will actually work best for metaverse casinos than what Zuckerberg have in mind.  i think this is where we can chat on the poker table and make bluffs.

As far as I know, virtual reality, augmented reality, and metaverse are different things.

Virtual reality replaces completely the things you see in your surrounding using some sort of tool such as virtual glasses or vr box to show the newly set and readily made place or reality. Meanwhile, augmented reality just adds on the view you are seeing. AR adds some elements or objects on your line of sight and it is usually done with the usage of smartphone camera such as the game which trended before Pokemon Go.

Now, metaverse is a completely different thing. While it relates to virtual reality since it features a virtual realm as well, it differs in set up. Metaverse from the word itself is a multitude of universes. It is comprised of different virtual realities. It is interconnected and you can do many things inside it. It does not limit you from becoming entertained only, but you can do various things such as modifying the reality you are staying in and creating one too. You can enjoy while having the possibility of generating income too such as in planned metaverse casinos which is a plus for those who want to explore something new even they are just inside the comfort of their homes.

Metaverse is slowly being developed and I know for sure that many games and even for shopping or strolling purposes will come out of this idea. Given that there are already plans about making a meta shopping, it's possible it will be used for other things as well that will bring satisfaction and convenience to the users.
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It will be like Mobile phones which were not very common back in the 90s and then suddenly become very cheap because technology is adopted.
Alibaba producing VR equipment will make the adoption of Meta down our doorstep and the more it will be fast since we all are just used to the internet already.

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It will be like Mobile phones which were not very common back in the 90s and then suddenly become very cheap because technology is adopted.
Alibaba producing VR equipment will make the adoption of Meta down our doorstep and the more it will be fast since we all are just used to the internet already.

The downside is that generations will all gonna be couch potatoes just sitting all day long eating chips.

There is a crucial difference with the wave of availability and popularity we lived with the smartphones (specially with those that ran Android) and it was the fact the OS of those products: Android is/was open source, any company could make their own phones and these would be able to communicate and use the same apps that the phones mass produced by other companies and competitors had.

In the case of the Metaverse, I highly doubt Facebook/Meta will release their source code or even make a deal with foreign companies so their metaverse works on Chines VR sets (Since meta wants to make money off the sale of their own sets), in this scenario, there is no sign of compatibility as there is with smartphones.

Nobody would buy three VR sets in other to get in three different metaverses made by three different companies, the same way nobody would buy three phones in the imaginary scenario IPhones only could communicate with other Apple products, Galaxies only with other Sansumg phones and so on.


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Adaptation to the metaverse will accelerate with the investment made by Alibaba. Not everything happens at once and adaptation will take time. Metaverse will be useful for casinos. You get the feeling of repeating the same thing after a while in online casinos but meta casinos will always keep you alive and the desire to play will never end. If the metaverse is not used correctly the damage it will cause will be great. Adapting social life to hours spent in front of the screen will condemn us to loneliness.

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It will be like Mobile phones which were not very common back in the 90s and then suddenly become very cheap because technology is adopted.
Alibaba producing VR equipment will make the adoption of Meta down our doorstep and the more it will be fast since we all are just used to the internet already.

The downside is that generations will all gonna be couch potatoes just sitting all day long eating chips.

There is a crucial difference with the wave of availability and popularity we lived with the smartphones (specially with those that ran Android) and it was the fact the OS of those products: Android is/was open source, any company could make their own phones and these would be able to communicate and use the same apps that the phones mass produced by other companies and competitors had.

In the case of the Metaverse, I highly doubt Facebook/Meta will release their source code or even make a deal with foreign companies so their metaverse works on Chines VR sets (Since meta wants to make money off the sale of their own sets), in this scenario, there is no sign of compatibility as there is with smartphones.

Nobody would buy three VR sets in other to get in three different metaverses made by three different companies, the same way nobody would buy three phones in the imaginary scenario IPhones only could communicate with other Apple products, Galaxies only with other Sansumg phones and so on.

They are not going to release source code, Alibaba will not need those codes. All VR sets will work on meta as long as they can connect to the internet. It's the same as phones or VR sets created by the Japanese or Germans, it can access to the internet or Meta of China.

If Meta is the future, these phone companies like Samsung and Apple will start producing VR sets also for businesses to grow.


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just saw this video published today by Cyrus Janssen.  although he isn't providing link to what he is actually talking about. I did some googling which i found these:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-29/alibaba-makes-metaverse-bet-in-china-s-magic-leap-rival
https://www.alibabacloud.com/solutions/metaverse

i didn't know how AR differs to VR. Alibaba will be creating the worlds shopping center where you can use the headset and just literally going to experience this metaverse.

In the future i think its not so far fetch after all to play and travel around the world while at home. the way its been described by Cyrus will actually work best for metaverse casinos than what Zuckerberg have in mind.  i think this is where we can chat on the poker table and make bluffs.
The video and the explanation on how this China's version of meta verse is awesome and very futuristic, it detailed what we all want in the future to be, a great explanation from the publisher he also mentioned that a lot of these meta verse products are going to be launch in 2023, just a few months to go, it's going to be exciting if what all those mentioned on that video becomes a real product, 2023 onwards is going to be a battle of the metaverse, I wonder what will be Zuckerberg's and other industrial world answers to China's version of the metaverse.

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I think Chinese businesses have nothing special to add some unique status to metaverse projects. Anyways most of metaverse projects right now are cheap copy of video games with some random Blockchain interaction/integration. Noone truly develops something to feel like whole new world. AliExpress may only copy Meta (Facebook) with it. I think Meta will create the most ambitious Metaverse project ever.
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October 02, 2022, 12:59:48 AM
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It will be like Mobile phones which were not very common back in the 90s and then suddenly become very cheap because technology is adopted.
Alibaba producing VR equipment will make the adoption of Meta down our doorstep and the more it will be fast since we all are just used to the internet already.

The downside is that generations will all gonna be couch potatoes just sitting all day long eating chips.
And that is exactly what it should worry us, our technology is advancing at such a speed that we are having problems adjusting our behaviors to use that technology in a responsible manner.

Without a doubt the metaverse is going to become incredibly successful, but we need to wonder what kind of cost this new technology is going to have in terms of our development as human beings? After all, we can see that smart phones are already having a huge effect on the development of people and it is to be expected that the metaverse has an even greater effect on them.
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October 02, 2022, 01:46:40 AM
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Metaverse is a Entertainment place by virtual reality . if gamble sites choice Metaverse technology and build a meta casinos then it will give a reality casinos experience and it will attract more gambles specially young people will attract much more on this. On the one hand this is a good thing on the other hand it will further spoil the youth

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October 02, 2022, 02:24:30 AM
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It will be like Mobile phones which were not very common back in the 90s and then suddenly become very cheap because technology is adopted.
Alibaba producing VR equipment will make the adoption of Meta down our doorstep and the more it will be fast since we all are just used to the internet already.

The downside is that generations will all gonna be couch potatoes just sitting all day long eating chips.
And that is exactly what it should worry us, our technology is advancing at such a speed that we are having problems adjusting our behaviors to use that technology in a responsible manner.

Without a doubt the metaverse is going to become incredibly successful, but we need to wonder what kind of cost this new technology is going to have in terms of our development as human beings? After all, we can see that smart phones are already having a huge effect on the development of people and it is to be expected that the metaverse has an even greater effect on them.

On the other hand, information spread fast and widely all over the world, and what the youth would do in reaction to the information they got with the technology was unimaginable 25 years ago. Today we are almost disconnected from nature. I visited a swimming class the other day, non of those kids had ever tried swimming in rivers but everyone started staring at their phones during class break.

With Metaverse like what Alibaba is doing, it's far more advance. I can compare this to the movie MUTE on Netflix, that's what might just happen I imagine seeing someone just standing using a Contact Lense on thier eyes as a device for the meta.


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