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June 25, 2022, 02:51:55 PM
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So get ready with KYC, especially if you win a lot of money because the casino will ask you. It is less comfortable for us if the casino asks KYC because we want to withdraw the money but cannot do anything and are forced to obey the casino's request. If the casino is a trusted casino and has a reputation, we can believe it but it will depend on our comfort in sending our documents.

Is that the case?

I have seen it mentioned many times in the forum but I have not checked if it is so, since I mainly play poker on fiat sites and I have only tried the odd crypto casino with pennies.

I suppose that the argument that the casinos will give will be a matter of security, but there are those who could see bad intentions in:

1) You lose a lot of money: I do not ask for KYC.
2) You play a lot and win $20; I do not ask you for KYC.
3) You play, win and request a withdrawal: I ask you for KYC.

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June 25, 2022, 04:12:51 PM
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risk of kyc on crypto casinos ?
"risk" has a connotation of probability, that is, there is a margin for yes or no, this is obvious, but your 100% has to be on some side of the yes or no, there can be no doubts.

So the question is, How sure are you that either of the 2 answers will occur... yes(!?) or no(!?).

Look for casinos that offer the closest possibility to that 100%, everything else is doubt, and if your doubts make you be in a kyc that you do not want, that is easy; next casino.

The Kyc is a nuisance, without a doubt, we are on "crypto mode" to avoid having to submit documentation, but it is something that for whatever reason is not 100% secure, although there are casinos that are, but I like the margin of 99.99% that small probability of 0.01% is latent, so starting to win starts with things like being clear about where you deposit.


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June 25, 2022, 06:30:39 PM
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ps: if you are a winning player (i know its rare or impossible) or won a big jackpot on any crypto casino, i would like some tips if you can,i can pay for your time,my telegram is @ ellieljonzz
So you know and understand what is the situation then , so accept the fact that there are no casino that we can mention in which will never ask for KYC in all time, because for sure in one thing or another they will ask you  still.
So get ready with KYC, especially if you win a lot of money because the casino will ask you. It is less comfortable for us if the casino asks KYC because we want to withdraw the money but cannot do anything and are forced to obey the casino's request. If the casino is a trusted casino and has a reputation, we can believe it but it will depend on our comfort in sending our documents.
Yup, we can't do much about it as casinos are also forced by the authorities to request KYC especially if ever we won big amounts. Also, they are also making sure that the winner is not some random under age kid who accessed their site and if we are not hiding something then KYC is not something that we can be afraid of, that's if the casino is reputable and already trusted.

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June 25, 2022, 06:35:51 PM
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So get ready with KYC, especially if you win a lot of money because the casino will ask you. It is less comfortable for us if the casino asks KYC because we want to withdraw the money but cannot do anything and are forced to obey the casino's request. If the casino is a trusted casino and has a reputation, we can believe it but it will depend on our comfort in sending our documents.

Is that the case?

I have seen it mentioned many times in the forum but I have not checked if it is so, since I mainly play poker on fiat sites and I have only tried the odd crypto casino with pennies.

I suppose that the argument that the casinos will give will be a matter of security, but there are those who could see bad intentions in:

1) You lose a lot of money: I do not ask for KYC.
2) You play a lot and win $20; I do not ask you for KYC.
3) You play, win and request a withdrawal: I ask you for KYC.
This is what happens often and makes more sense for the OP to pay attention to. You have explained it in a simple and uncomplicated way. The fact is that when we only bet small and make small profits, there is no need to worry about KYC. Because the withdrawal limit is still under KYC requirements. Therefore, I further limit the bets in each casino so as not to exceed the maximum limit for further verification.

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June 25, 2022, 06:52:45 PM
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ps: if you are a winning player (i know its rare or impossible) or won a big jackpot on any crypto casino, i would like some tips if you can,i can pay for your time,my telegram is @ ellieljonzz
So you know and understand what is the situation then , so accept the fact that there are no casino that we can mention in which will never ask for KYC in all time, because for sure in one thing or another they will ask you  still.
So get ready with KYC, especially if you win a lot of money because the casino will ask you. It is less comfortable for us if the casino asks KYC because we want to withdraw the money but cannot do anything and are forced to obey the casino's request. If the casino is a trusted casino and has a reputation, we can believe it but it will depend on our comfort in sending our documents.
Yup, we can't do much about it as casinos are also forced by the authorities to request KYC especially if ever we won big amounts. Also, they are also making sure that the winner is not some random under age kid who accessed their site and if we are not hiding something then KYC is not something that we can be afraid of, that's if the casino is reputable and already trusted.
Not all the times if they  do ask out for some verification do pertains about verifying about the age of a certain big winner which some of them are just trying to get hold and trying not to give out such win which is

really something very shady to be done by some casinos thats why its really always be that ideal on sticking with reputable and known casinos so that you would really make yourself a little bit confident whenever you

do play on a certain site and do knows that you are dealing with the right place and in case there are people who do make up some big wins including you then you dont have any doubts that you would really get paid.
KYC could neither be asked or not but most of casinos now doesnt really ask and pay out directly unless if you are dealing with fiat casinos.

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June 25, 2022, 07:03:04 PM
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Not all the times if they  do ask out for some verification do pertains about verifying about the age of a certain big winner which some of them are just trying to get hold and trying not to give out such win which is

 That's right,
 so if it is about age they let so childs under the age of majority put money by playing until they win ??

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June 25, 2022, 07:42:00 PM
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Not all the times if they  do ask out for some verification do pertains about verifying about the age of a certain big winner which some of them are just trying to get hold and trying not to give out such win which is

 That's right,
 so if it is about age they let so childs under the age of majority put money by playing until they win ??
They do just love to play safe as we can say. Cheesy

They do let those kids deposit until the last drop of their money and wont really be having any complaints yet they do know that it would really be still on their advantage but on the time that some kids do able to make

some big hits then this is where common modus or something that counters which could result into denying into those payments.Well, we do have terms and conditions but they should have applied it from the start
on not to let any of those minors to hang around and just waiting for them to win and declining their withdrawal.

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June 25, 2022, 07:49:09 PM
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Not all the times if they  do ask out for some verification do pertains about verifying about the age of a certain big winner which some of them are just trying to get hold and trying not to give out such win which is

 That's right,
 so if it is about age they let so childs under the age of majority put money by playing until they win ??
Age play a major role for casino to demand for KYC from a player, most of the regulatory compliance casinos must comply with the under-age gambling prohibition law that state that one must be above 🔞 to gamble. But aside from that money laundering is another factor that motivates casino sites to demand KYC. So if one is not ready to face all this kyc demand you have to limit yourself to playing only in casinos that do not demand identity verification.
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Thanks for the replies guys,so about stake or any other casino that has those kind of "kyc triggers" is there a specif value that make them ask for kyc ? above $10k or something like that ?
Could you explain us in which circumstances Stake has asked you a KYC please? Because I don't think it's honest to say we don't ask any KYC to play at our casino and then asking one once the player has sent funds there or has made some winnings. If they just care about that when their players don't lose their funds it's a scam.

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June 25, 2022, 09:55:54 PM
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Age play a major role for casino to demand for KYC from a player, most of the regulatory compliance casinos must comply with the under-age gambling prohibition law that state that one must be above 🔞 to gamble. But aside from that money laundering is another factor that motivates casino sites to demand KYC. So if one is not ready to face all this kyc demand you have to limit yourself to playing only in casinos that do not demand identity verification.
This may be one of their season for asking LKYC in certain platfor,m especially in the gambling plpatform. We know how children are now easier access gambling platform and they have been usual with this term. Although we as parents must pay attention to our kids in accessing any platform, we cannot get it 24 hours. There is still a chance for kids to join inc certain ng ambling platforms. which is why KYC may be needed. Moreover, it also relates to the restriction of countries, the platform may not risk itself to accept users that come from restricted countries because this will really break the rules and TOS of the company.
However on the other hand, can they hold and save our data very safely? the answer will be not. this will be still risky to put our data on the platform. but once again we sometimes have no idea to do KYC if we want to gambling in certain platforms.
There is always pros and cons about this, weakness and strength

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June 25, 2022, 10:03:02 PM
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Looking for more crypto casino options,used to play on stake but had kyc asked over,is there any that has absolutely 0% chance of that being asked ?
There is no guarantee that you will never be asked to comply KYC on an online casino even if there is no mandatory policies regarding registration, or withdrawal because every regulated casinos has their terms and rules where you can see people and residence from certain countries are not allowed to play there so if someone is winning a huge money then they have all the rights to ask about you didn't violate any of their rules to win the bet(s).

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Age play a major role for casino to demand for KYC from a player, most of the regulatory compliance casinos must comply with the under-age gambling prohibition law that state that one must be above 🔞 to gamble. But aside from that money laundering is another factor that motivates casino sites to demand KYC. So if one is not ready to face all this kyc demand you have to limit yourself to playing only in casinos that do not demand identity verification.
This may be one of their season for asking LKYC in certain platfor,m especially in the gambling plpatform. We know how children are now easier access gambling platform and they have been usual with this term. Although we as parents must pay attention to our kids in accessing any platform, we cannot get it 24 hours. There is still a chance for kids to join inc certain ng ambling platforms. which is why KYC may be needed.

 If the problem is about age, then they should ask for verification upon registration to establish effective restrictions for childs,, If a child need to provide KYC verification to can do profit from some decent winnings, then he can just tell everything to his parents (or ask someone else) for they complete KYC in his place!


 The question is more about AMF restrictions, the casino can't provide importants amounts without keeping tracks to show to the authorities.


 About this, and as providing personal informations can have many bad side effects.. Why not creating central services aggregated by the authorities where you register you informations at one single time, and they provide you with a kind of numeric ID that you can use then to complete verifications even without sharing your informations!
 

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June 25, 2022, 11:05:20 PM
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There is no guarantee that you will never be asked to comply KYC on an online casino even if there is no mandatory policies regarding registration, or withdrawal because every regulated casinos has their terms and rules where you can see people and residence from certain countries are not allowed to play there so if someone is winning a huge money then they have all the rights to ask about you didn't violate any of their rules to win the bet(s).
This is the truth these days. Before, we saw those casinos that were okay with no compliance prior to KYC. But today is different, everyone will be subject to it especially if you've got huge withdrawals and they'll have to ask you those certain information that they need to verify you as the genuine owner of that account and as well as them complying to their rules of operation. We'll never see today a casino that don't have the rules about questioning a user for kyc suddenly or the rights to ask the user a kyc.

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June 26, 2022, 03:13:16 AM
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Is that the case?

I have seen it mentioned many times in the forum but I have not checked if it is so, since I mainly play poker on fiat sites and I have only tried the odd crypto casino with pennies.

I suppose that the argument that the casinos will give will be a matter of security, but there are those who could see bad intentions in:

1) You lose a lot of money: I do not ask for KYC.
2) You play a lot and win $20; I do not ask you for KYC.
3) You play, win and request a withdrawal: I ask you for KYC.
Maybe that's the problem. Try to notice if someone wins a large amount and that person is not a long time ago or is an old member of the casino, the casino can ask for KYC. Frankly, I also haven't tried it, especially by using big money to gamble and win a lot of money because I'm too afraid to see a lot of losses. But I'm just trying to think that if I were a casino owner and there was a member who could win a lot of money, would I let that person withdraw the big winning money without me knowing who that person was?

If I were a casino owner, I would want to find out more about that person by asking for KYC. This is a gambling business where the casino wants to make a lot of money and not all owners will let their members withdraw huge amounts of money.

Yup, we can't do much about it as casinos are also forced by the authorities to request KYC especially if ever we won big amounts. Also, they are also making sure that the winner is not some random under age kid who accessed their site and if we are not hiding something then KYC is not something that we can be afraid of, that's if the casino is reputable and already trusted.
Of course. Casinos can do little against pressure from the authorities. Casinos will try to comply with the authorities' regulations and ensure everything is still under their control. That is why casinos implement KYC, which may apply to all casinos in the future if the authorities want to interfere in all fiat and crypto based casinos.
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June 26, 2022, 03:40:40 AM
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I suppose that the argument that the casinos will give will be a matter of security, but there are those who could see bad intentions in:

1) You lose a lot of money: I do not ask for KYC.
2) You play a lot and win $20; I do not ask you for KYC.
3) You play, win and request a withdrawal: I ask you for KYC.
All we hope is that they are only doing this for security mate but like what these 3 mentioned by you It is an obvious intention in their part to at least delay the withdrawal taken by the gambler simply by asking them to conduct KYC when it is obvious that most players go in their site because they are not asking for Verification or KYC when starting or luring players , but when the winning comes (specially when it is good enough wins?) then this obligation will be asked and if you deny the verification then you'll never get your funds.
this has been an issue from the beginning that's why many of us deny the fact that there are at least single casino site here that does not ask for KYC in any chance.

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June 26, 2022, 10:31:22 AM
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just admit that there are none of the following casino that will let you play full time without KYC presentation , yeah they will allow you short time or until you are losing but when you earn enough funds to be a literal winner then expect something changing and that is what will happen.

Gambling site are more brainy than us , we are not the one who must win but them .
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The casino has now reached a stage where no player can play full time without KYC. Because in a short time you can play without personal details. Many intelligent and big rich people gamble here on this website. And they are always involved in gambling which you will be surprised to see.
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The casino has now reached a stage where no player can play full time without KYC. Because in a short time you can play without personal details. Many intelligent and big rich people gamble here on this website. And they are always involved in gambling which you will be surprised to see.

Not all casinos though, there are still plenty of casinos that do not require a KYC, so if in case the current casino you are playing with starts to require you a KYC, then just leave the casino and transfer, easy as that.

We know the risk of submitting our personal information, especially if the gambling site is less trustworthy, so we should do the right thing.

Gambling is fun in crypto because of no KYC, KYC will just kill the fun.

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So you know and understand what is the situation then , so accept the fact that there are no casino that we can mention in which will never ask for KYC in all time, because for sure in one thing or another they will ask you  still.
So get ready with KYC, especially if you win a lot of money because the casino will ask you. It is less comfortable for us if the casino asks KYC because we want to withdraw the money but cannot do anything and are forced to obey the casino's request. If the casino is a trusted casino and has a reputation, we can believe it but it will depend on our comfort in sending our documents.


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As I have indicated before, 777coin.com seems still not requesting any information ..

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