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June 30, 2022, 09:40:39 PM
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I will rather not risk my information through KYC and if a casino is a KYC complains I will simply walk away from it and just try to lay my hands on some other casino that will not request verification. Am not free with KYC and that is because I believe crypto casinos should be privacy oriented.

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June 30, 2022, 10:08:52 PM
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From one point of view, there is no risk here. Again lately if we see the number of data thefts increasing day by day. Now there are many scammers who steal people's information from KYC verification and sell them.
This is a bit contradictory! First you say there is no risk then you acknowledge that there are many scammers and thiefs targeting users'p personal information!
My concern is that there are many people who still don't realize how valuable their personal information are and how scammers and fraudsters can use them in their scam schemes.


The best thing is to check not only the legitimacy of the site and even the track record of the owner. It also helps knowing what are the KYC third party platforms and their reputation. If I own a casino, I would not like to risk the reputation of my site nor the possible legal actions that could take place if my system is hacked. For that, there are a number of thrid party specialised companies with the right security.

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June 30, 2022, 10:37:16 PM
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From one point of view, there is no risk here. Again lately if we see the number of data thefts increasing day by day. Now there are many scammers who steal people's information from KYC verification and sell them.
This is a bit contradictory! First you say there is no risk then you acknowledge that there are many scammers and thiefs targeting users'p personal information!
My concern is that there are many people who still don't realize how valuable their personal information are and how scammers and fraudsters can use them in their scam schemes.


The best thing is to check not only the legitimacy of the site and even the track record of the owner. It also helps knowing what are the KYC third party platforms and their reputation. If I own a casino, I would not like to risk the reputation of my site nor the possible legal actions that could take place if my system is hacked. For that, there are a number of thrid party specialised companies with the right security.

It doesn't have to be a hack, it could be an inside job. The bigger the book, the more likely that the player list will be stolen and sold. A license or the reputation of a book doesn't make any difference. No one wants to buy a small player list but a big one is valuable.

Ledger was breached and one million email addresses and other personal information were leaked. If Ledger can be hacked, all sportsbooks can be hacked.

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June 30, 2022, 11:19:35 PM
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I will rather not risk my information through KYC and if a casino is a KYC complains I will simply walk away from it and just try to lay my hands on some other casino that will not request verification. Am not free with KYC and that is because I believe crypto casinos should be privacy oriented.

Everyone expects the privacy of crypto casinos to be different from other casinos, but many times casinos take a hard line on kyc to meet the conditions of their licenses. You will find many casinos that do not make kyc mandatory, but you also need to be aware of their reputation in advance. Because after you deposit the money, if they lock your fund and ask you to give your personal information to kyc. Then you will be in the same situation as before. So it is important to research about the reputation of the casino before making a deposit, the subject of kyc is later.

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July 01, 2022, 07:08:57 PM
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I have a question that has been giving me a lot of headache, what exactly is this casino license for? because in 90% of cases where people are complaining about having seen their accounts frozen by the casinos they have nothing to complain about, even though they know that the casino where they will have their accounts frozen has a license in curacao, that's why I keep asking myself these questions What are licenses for?
You ask a very good important question, casino license is for the casino to attract and gain the trust of gamblers because casino owners have to work in certain compliance with laws, regulations, and transparency stated by their master license holder who literally work as a casino SEC.

About frozen accounts, it's something i can not answer because we have a situation where casinos have every reason to freeze the account of users cheating or breaking the casino rules and regulations. However, we have a situation where the casino is abusing its power.


and about KYC I also can't understand how this KYC works only on the client side and doesn't work on the casino owners side
KYC also work on the casino owners side either because the casino could obtain a license they need to visit the local gambling regulator in the country where they want to operate a legal casino although some casino looking for someone to help them do this online when the problem occurs its the person that represents the casino that will be in problem.


example: how is it possible for the client to KYC in an anonymous casino?
I believe only casinos thats not licensed can be called anonymous casinos and that is the reason most gamblers always believe in a licensed casinos.

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July 01, 2022, 07:44:22 PM
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I will rather not risk my information through KYC and if a casino is a KYC complains I will simply walk away from it and just try to lay my hands on some other casino that will not request verification. Am not free with KYC and that is because I believe crypto casinos should be privacy oriented.

Everyone expects the privacy of crypto casinos to be different from other casinos, but many times casinos take a hard line on kyc to meet the conditions of their licenses. You will find many casinos that do not make kyc mandatory, but you also need to be aware of their reputation in advance. Because after you deposit the money, if they lock your fund and ask you to give your personal information to kyc. Then you will be in the same situation as before. So it is important to research about the reputation of the casino before making a deposit, the subject of kyc is later.

If @RILWAN is indeed determined to play to a non-KYC casino then it's much better to deposit small amounts so that there won't be a big problem to look the other way if incase the casino will lock the funds and asks KYC to retrieve/withdraw the said funds. Unfortunately, we really can't do something about these things these days because they are just following the law in exchange for their license, that's is also why it's important to find a trusted and reputable casino if ever things like these will happen and the fund is quite big enough to surrender.

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July 01, 2022, 08:21:46 PM
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Some users hate KYC because they want to prevent their personal information from different kinds of people or sites. And also nowadays many tricks have been detected which is the use of other personal information to scam other people so other gamblers did not want KYC. but KYC is defended from the casino or site itself because some sites or casino strictly implemented KYC in order to play with them .
Indeed, in this case there are some advantages and disadvantages of doing KYC there but for now it is clear that many people don't like this kind of thing, regardless of what KYC is one thing that seems to be the most avoided especially for gamblers who put a little money there and I also do the same thing because I still don't think it's worth it to provide personal data when gambling with a small amount that I do.
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July 01, 2022, 09:15:50 PM
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Looking for more crypto casino options,used to play on stake but had kyc asked over,is there any that has absolutely 0% chance of that being asked ?

You have to consider that dealing with online betting sites which is a centralized platform involves you doing kyc, I will advise you go for casino platforms that do require kyc verification, dealing with platform that doesn't require kyc is like risking your funds, because there is a chance that you could win huge amount of money and they may demand you provide your kyc ,So take note of that because by that time your funds is already locked up.

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July 01, 2022, 09:48:58 PM
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One of the major disadvantages of KYC is the fact that your data may be compromised or get licked or sold on the dark web and used to commit crimes, but aside from this the most agreed way to reduce crime and underage, gambling is through KYC and if the casino has strong security the users are good to go even with KYC in place.

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July 01, 2022, 09:54:14 PM
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Looking for more crypto casino options,used to play on stake but had kyc asked over,is there any that has absolutely 0% chance of that being asked ?

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The only sites I know with 0 chances to ask KYC are not big unfortunately. But AFAIK Freebitcoin never ask any KYC even to its biggest high rollers. They are even working on a full non-custodial and decentralized casino, it should be released in the coming months. Besides that, Nitrogen doesn't ask any KYC too AFAIK, Yobit provides a dice game and few other games while they never ask KYC.

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July 01, 2022, 10:12:00 PM
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Looking for more crypto casino options,used to play on stake but had kyc asked over,is there any that has absolutely 0% chance of that being asked ?

You have to consider that dealing with online betting sites which is a centralized platform involves you doing kyc, I will advise you go for casino platforms that do require kyc verification, dealing with platform that doesn't require kyc is like risking your funds, because there is a chance that you could win huge amount of money and they may demand you provide your kyc ,So take note of that because by that time your funds is already locked up.

This kind of situation is one of the best thing in gambling or sites if we talk about high bettors because if you win an big amount of money from gambling then the sites ask about your self / personal information in order to withdraw your money so you must comply and pass their kyc. But not all casino doing this some of them they are letting you withdraw your money without asking to much information about yourself.

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July 01, 2022, 10:43:55 PM
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I will rather not risk my information through KYC and if a casino is a KYC complains I will simply walk away from it and just try to lay my hands on some other casino that will not request verification. Am not free with KYC and that is because I believe crypto casinos should be privacy oriented.

Everyone expects the privacy of crypto casinos to be different from other casinos, but many times casinos take a hard line on kyc to meet the conditions of their licenses. You will find many casinos that do not make kyc mandatory, but you also need to be aware of their reputation in advance. Because after you deposit the money, if they lock your fund and ask you to give your personal information to kyc. Then you will be in the same situation as before. So it is important to research about the reputation of the casino before making a deposit, the subject of kyc is later.

If @RILWAN is indeed determined to play to a non-KYC casino then it's much better to deposit small amounts so that there won't be a big problem to look the other way if incase the casino will lock the funds and asks KYC to retrieve/withdraw the said funds. Unfortunately, we really can't do something about these things these days because they are just following the law in exchange for their license, that's is also why it's important to find a trusted and reputable casino if ever things like these will happen and the fund is quite big enough to surrender.

Yeah. Listening to the interests of the players, some casinos try to take advantage of the fact that kyc is not mandatory in their casinos. And gamblers deposit in that casino without verification, but the problem starts when they go to withdraw the winning money. They lock the account with various excuses and force the customer to complete the kyc. So you should deposit in any casino after researching everything. Because there are many casinos in the market in which kyc is not mandatory but they are providing good service to their customers.

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July 01, 2022, 11:20:11 PM
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One of the major disadvantages of KYC is the fact that your data may be compromised or get licked or sold on the dark web and used to commit crimes, but aside from this the most agreed way to reduce crime and underage, gambling is through KYC and if the casino has strong security the users are good to go even with KYC in place.
What you are saying is true, but I think you should look for a reputable casino so you don't have to worry if the casino sells on the dark web. By playing at that casino, your data is completely guarded by the casino and will ensure that customer data is in a safe place. But yes, KYC is a way to limit minors from playing gambling, especially if the casino does verification online because minors will get caught if they want to cheat the casino using an adult identity.

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July 01, 2022, 11:31:26 PM
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Looking for more crypto casino options,used to play on stake but had kyc asked over,is there any that has absolutely 0% chance of that being asked ?

You have to consider that dealing with online betting sites which is a centralized platform involves you doing kyc, I will advise you go for casino platforms that do require kyc verification, dealing with platform that doesn't require kyc is like risking your funds, because there is a chance that you could win huge amount of money and they may demand you provide your kyc ,So take note of that because by that time your funds is already locked up.
point of correction casino gambling platform that does not require a kyc verification because kyc verification is very necessary in any online platform, which any platform I'm gambling site on betting sites that is not the point for verification it is very known that that particular platform is not verified because there is every tendency that you can loss your funds used to place bet. So kyc verification is universal for any gambling website and none of them is exempted for kyc verification I hope you have to take note on this.
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July 01, 2022, 11:46:29 PM
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Aside from scam casinos, which will invoke identity procedures in order not to give gamblers their profits, even honest gambling sites are not in their interest to spend huge bonuses to gamblers without verifying their identities due to reasons mainly related to the legal legislation in the countries in which they launch their projects.
Identity verification procedures, although not recommended at all for users, may be useful to them if they use sites that disclose their activities to the relevant authorities.
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July 02, 2022, 12:37:12 AM
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Looking for more crypto casino options,used to play on stake but had kyc asked over,is there any that has absolutely 0% chance of that being asked ?

ps: if you are a winning player (i know its rare or impossible) or won a big jackpot on any crypto casino, i would like some tips if you can,i can pay for your time,my telegram is @ ellieljonzz
The only sites I know with 0 chances to ask KYC are not big unfortunately. But AFAIK Freebitcoin never ask any KYC even to its biggest high rollers. They are even working on a full non-custodial and decentralized casino, it should be released in the coming months. Besides that, Nitrogen doesn't ask any KYC too AFAIK, Yobit provides a dice game and few other games while they never ask KYC.
Nitrobetting, Betcoin, Playbetr, Freebitcoin are sites that never ask for KYC unless you use a VPN.

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July 02, 2022, 12:40:00 AM
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Aside from scam casinos, which will invoke identity procedures in order not to give gamblers their profits, even honest gambling sites are not in their interest to spend huge bonuses to gamblers without verifying their identities due to reasons mainly related to the legal legislation in the countries in which they launch their projects.
Identity verification procedures, although not recommended at all for users, may be useful to them if they use sites that disclose their activities to the relevant authorities.

If you don't use a VPN, then some of the books/casinos will give nice bonuses without KYC.

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July 02, 2022, 02:30:58 AM
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Looking for more crypto casino options,used to play on stake but had kyc asked over,is there any that has absolutely 0% chance of that being asked ?

ps: if you are a winning player (i know its rare or impossible) or won a big jackpot on any crypto casino, i would like some tips if you can,i can pay for your time,my telegram is @ ellieljonzz
The only sites I know with 0 chances to ask KYC are not big unfortunately. But AFAIK Freebitcoin never ask any KYC even to its biggest high rollers. They are even working on a full non-custodial and decentralized casino, it should be released in the coming months. Besides that, Nitrogen doesn't ask any KYC too AFAIK, Yobit provides a dice game and few other games while they never ask KYC.
Nitrobetting, Betcoin, Playbetr, Freebitcoin are sites that never ask for KYC unless you use a VPN.
I can only vouch for Playbetr and Freebitco,in in which yeah they are not asking for KYC or in any form .

Betcoin.ag and Nitrobetting is also familiar for me because they have been in this market for long as they also have their banner here before .


If you don't use a VPN, then some of the books/casinos will give nice bonuses without KYC.
Never that I use VPN in playing  and that is the reason also why i keep gaining good bonuses and good treatment from the site ,

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July 02, 2022, 01:05:43 PM
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Never that I use VPN in playing  and that is the reason also why i keep gaining good bonuses and good treatment from the site ,
Good for you, VPNs are only for people who like to protect their privacy and for those who want to change their location so they will not be subjected to the ban, but without knowing the risk that the gambling site might block their account and take their money. As long as your country does not prohibit gambling, there's no reason on using a VPN service.

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July 02, 2022, 01:16:52 PM
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Looking for more crypto casino options,used to play on stake but had kyc asked over,is there any that has absolutely 0% chance of that being asked ?

I am sorry for asking this question here, but I have to ask to know more in my glossary of terms. What is the full meaning of KYC and it function in casino games? I have been trying to know this term since I came to this board but no concrete explanation, some said, it means Know your customer (kyc) but I am not satisfied. I need  more on the term or acronym.

From my own initiative, there is no casino game that doesn't require kyc. Because kyc promote the casino game to the highest top and the more players you have the more popular your company becomes. All these sites they mentioned above I believe use kyc,  sites like:
Playbetr, Freebitco, Nitrobetting etc. The best way to find out his to look for reputation Casino Gambling and play.
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