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June 30, 2022, 06:36:36 PM
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Sometimes we will learn ways to see more clearly after our failures, which is good for the OP, but I think many people will find it difficult to see that when they are still immersed in their dreams. The dream of profit or loss has not ended. A perfect strategy is not something everyone can implement, and it is also recognized from the forerunners. Only when we really experience everything, will we have a more complete view of finding opportunities in the future. in this market as well as in life.
This is a problem because sometimes our expectations are too high which makes us unable to wake up and are still in the shadows of fantasies that don't stop, even though when we are aware of our capacity and don't have too high expectations, this is clearly a good thing to do.
But in fact, almost everyone has done this, even me when I first entered crypto, obviously my expectations were very high and thought it was easy to get big money, but my expectations like this were slowly broken by the fact that it didn't fit and the process didn't work as easy as imagined.

The problem with wrong overview with this kind of industry, thinking that it's easy to work on not realizing that due to volatility the market can quickly burned your investment, you will only realized things when you already suffered from that kind of losses but the good catch is when you learned it the hard way, you always have the chance to improve and enhance your opportunities,

giving you enough time to work on with your previous mistake and avoid doing things again and again.

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June 30, 2022, 07:32:08 PM
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Sometimes we will learn ways to see more clearly after our failures, which is good for the OP, but I think many people will find it difficult to see that when they are still immersed in their dreams. The dream of profit or loss has not ended. A perfect strategy is not something everyone can implement, and it is also recognized from the forerunners. Only when we really experience everything, will we have a more complete view of finding opportunities in the future. in this market as well as in life.
This is a problem because sometimes our expectations are too high which makes us unable to wake up and are still in the shadows of fantasies that don't stop, even though when we are aware of our capacity and don't have too high expectations, this is clearly a good thing to do.
But in fact, almost everyone has done this, even me when I first entered crypto, obviously my expectations were very high and thought it was easy to get big money, but my expectations like this were slowly broken by the fact that it didn't fit and the process didn't work as easy as imagined.

The problem with wrong overview with this kind of industry, thinking that it's easy to work on not realizing that due to volatility the market can quickly burned your investment, you will only realized things when you already suffered from that kind of losses but the good catch is when you learned it the hard way, you always have the chance to improve and enhance your opportunities,

giving you enough time to work on with your previous mistake and avoid doing things again and again.
Once you do gain experience then this is where you do make yourself improve or be better which means that you would really be already aware on what are the things that could happen in the market.Some might

quit entirely or directly on the time they had experienced unfortunate events but there are people who do pursue and continue despite of those errors which i could say that a must have behavior since
we are dealing with an unpredictable market which its understandable that learning would be needed or something crucial for you to mind off.

You cant learn if you wont be experiencing losses or mistakes or errors which i could say that its just normal because there's no such thing about being a perfect investor.

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June 30, 2022, 07:52:09 PM
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The problem with wrong overview with this kind of industry, thinking that it's easy to work on not realizing that due to volatility the market can quickly burned your investment, you will only realized things when you already suffered from that kind of losses but the good catch is when you learned it the hard way, you always have the chance to improve and enhance your opportunities,

giving you enough time to work on with your previous mistake and avoid doing things again and again.
Once you do gain experience then this is where you do make yourself improve or be better which means that you would really be already aware on what are the things that could happen in the market.Some might

quit entirely or directly on the time they had experienced unfortunate events but there are people who do pursue and continue despite of those errors which i could say that a must have behavior since
we are dealing with an unpredictable market which its understandable that learning would be needed or something crucial for you to mind off.

You cant learn if you wont be experiencing losses or mistakes or errors which i could say that its just normal because there's no such thing about being a perfect investor.

Of course, I got a lot of things from a bad initial step due to a lack of knowledge. You are right, many people still have curiosity but do not want to build their trade or investment, even better, they fall into the same hole. I definitely don't want that to happen. As much as possible, we should take important points from each process and failure makes us more mature in making decisions.

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June 30, 2022, 08:42:50 PM
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That is one of the basic of any investment you can win and you can loose .We are usually dealing with probability any thing can happen at any time one should only invest what he can afford to loose to stay on the safer side always.

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July 01, 2022, 04:36:44 AM
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The problem with wrong overview with this kind of industry, thinking that it's easy to work on not realizing that due to volatility the market can quickly burned your investment, you will only realized things when you already suffered from that kind of losses but the good catch is when you learned it the hard way, you always have the chance to improve and enhance your opportunities,

giving you enough time to work on with your previous mistake and avoid doing things again and again.
But indeed this can be a good lesson. A person will understand more and be more careful when something he has has disappeared.
I have also been in a situation where I thought that here was something instant and easy but when the reality was different and I lost money in an instant then the mindset about crypto clearly had to change and this is what happens now when I lose. at least I can change and learn everything that is needed without getting carried away by emotions in the face of a downturn in crypto.
As many others have said, experience is a great teacher that is true but only for people who are willing to learn from mistakes.

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July 01, 2022, 07:55:22 AM
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Whatever happens to the market then we must be able to take lessons, and usually we will learn more if we lose, this is of course to make us always be active following the latest trends and developments, and to be a winner it takes sacrifice and learning without ever stopping .

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July 01, 2022, 08:19:49 AM
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we also can not only depend on the theory that is taught when we are in the learning stage, be it at school or college, because still theory will not work properly if it is not accompanied by good application and of course experience too. take effect.

you're right, that's why many go with the word that says experience is the perfect teacher, and is one of the easiest ways to knowledge acquisition, no matter how rich and educated a child is, he can never have the live experience of a grown up adult.
Teaching about theory is very good but theory alone is not enough to live life and when in Crypto learning theory is also very important, therefore many people say it is important to continue to study in terms of momentum, market movement candles etc. But Theory alone will not have much effect because as said before because Theory sometimes will not run perfectly and sometimes there are some situations where we have to do things outside of Theory and here is the experience that determines.
We cannot be completely sure of either Theory and Experience because it is best to do both in balance.

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we also can not only depend on the theory that is taught when we are in the learning stage, be it at school or college, because still theory will not work properly if it is not accompanied by good application and of course experience too. take effect.

you're right, that's why many go with the word that says experience is the perfect teacher, and is one of the easiest ways to knowledge acquisition, no matter how rich and educated a child is, he can never have the live experience of a grown up adult.
Teaching about theory is very good but theory alone is not enough to live life and when in Crypto learning theory is also very important, therefore many people say it is important to continue to study in terms of momentum, market movement candles etc. But Theory alone will not have much effect because as said before because Theory sometimes will not run perfectly and sometimes there are some situations where we have to do things outside of Theory and here is the experience that determines.
We cannot be completely sure of either Theory and Experience because it is best to do both in balance.

True, not just in any investing, the from the start that we went to school and learn things, it's all theory and until we go out and practice it, we will never know.

I guess that's one part and parcel of life, we need to experience everything before we know how to react to it. And talking about crypto, those who have seen the lows or bearish cycle in 2018 should have learn their lessons already and know what to do right now. We keep preaching on others to invest, because that's what we should have done in 2018, but instead we didn't so we don't want to make the same mistakes again this bear market 2022.

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Whatever happens to the market then we must be able to take lessons, and usually we will learn more if we lose, this is of course to make us always be active following the latest trends and developments, and to be a winner it takes sacrifice and learning without ever stopping .
Try to suggest what special lessons that can be learned by everyone when conditions are like now apart from persevering and being patient because these two things are supposed to be done. Sacrifice is another thing that everyone does voluntarily, but if a loss or losing in a trade is considered a sacrifice, for me it is not worth it because it happens by itself and not voluntarily.

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That is how literally our life works not just about investing on cryptocurrencies, stocks, etc. Mistake can't be a mistake if you learned something from it. You experience those in order to grow. I've been in this crypto space since 2016 and my experiences already taught me a lot how to endure during this bear season. I don't care anymore about the fuds going lately and not panicking if cryptos dumps again, this is just normal if you've been here for some years now.
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That is how literally our life works not just about investing on cryptocurrencies, stocks, etc. Mistake can't be a mistake if you learned something from it. You experience those in order to grow. I've been in this crypto space since 2016 and my experiences already taught me a lot how to endure during this bear season. I don't care anymore about the fuds going lately and not panicking if cryptos dumps again, this is just normal if you've been here for some years now.
No doubt you are a professional trader who already has a lot of experience,
you certainly already know very well how to respond in various market conditions,
when the bear market is indeed we need to stay calm and don't panic because it will make us unable to think clearly and it will give birth to wrong decisions

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No doubt you are a professional trader who already has a lot of experience,
you certainly already know very well how to respond in various market conditions,
when the bear market is indeed we need to stay calm and don't panic because it will make us unable to think clearly and it will give birth to wrong decisions
Generally this should be the case, but at this point I rarely enter the market except to monitor Bitcoin prices and during the downturn, I do not sell any assets I own except only make purchases using the past USDT I have held. And if only I could sell before the decline like now occurs, then at this time there are several kinds of coins that I can buy using USDT, but unfortunately I didn't have time to sell my assets before the decline occurred.

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That is one of the basic of any investment you can win and you can loose .We are usually dealing with probability any thing can happen at any time one should only invest what he can afford to loose to stay on the safer side always.

You want to be on the safer side? Just buy and stack only Bitcoin. Altcoins are a lot more riskier investment than Bitcoin.
Projects could fail, or it could be a scam, or some unfortunate breech that would destroy the project.
But don't get me wrong, I'm not saying not to invest on altcoin totally, I only want to emphasize that when you're investing into altcoin, you'll never be on the safer side. You need boost your risk appetite instead, even though you have invested what you can afford to lose.

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Sometimes we will learn ways to see more clearly after our failures, which is good for the OP, but I think many people will find it difficult to see that when they are still immersed in their dreams. The dream of profit or loss has not ended. A perfect strategy is not something everyone can implement, and it is also recognized from the forerunners. Only when we really experience everything, will we have a more complete view of finding opportunities in the future. in this market as well as in life.
Whether it's in investing or in life, failure is mother's success. Failure is not the end, but the lesson is a preparation for a new beginning. We will ignore all the advice of those who have gone before us until we stumble upon ourselves, then we will truly understand.

Successful people in the crypto market must have failed a lot and they have turned them into lessons for success. To achieve success like theirs, we will also have to face challenges like theirs, no one succeeds without experiencing failures.

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Both will always be side by side, we don't always have to win. In every new hype, new challenges will emerge that are more psychologically affecting to enter into it.
Basically it is a circle, most people call it a cycle but it is a circle basically. We get a bull run, we get a bear run, then we get a bull run, then bear then bull then bear. This goes on forever and will go on forever. The world can't make a profit forever, it is just not possible at all, and the world can't make a loss forever neither, it is impossible for people to get to a level where there is no money, it would create chaos.

So in the end, we are going to have to just live one bear and then one bull and repeat that circle forever. Right now we are in the bear run, or at least at the bottom of the bear run by the looks of it, then we will end up with a bull run for sure.

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Now I know how cash circulates into the crypto markets. I know fundamentals are the most important part of a project. I again could do mistakes in the next bull season but I will be more mature than to handle the situation. I do take some losses but the lesson it gave me would save a hell lot of money in the future.

Yes, when I entered crypto, it was 2017, so there is a massive bull run and thought of quitting my job to focus more on crypto trading. But then again, the bear market sets in and it's good that I didn't quit my job otherwise I don't have enough money to put in the table. So maybe that time I really FOMO and yeah, I was inexperienced because I never seen a bearish cycle. I'm more mature now and really saving for the future and still investing in this bearish trend because it's where the money can be made for the future.
People who only fall for FOMO are those who are less knowledgeable and are motivated by greed, so good thing you didn't fall for that. Although there are still inevitable losses no matter how we invest with caution, but the fact that we become mature to handle all the uncertainties in crypto, investing in crypto particularly in times of market crash will always risky but you'll know you'll win if you remain strong and persistent until the market turns into bullish.

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Now I know how cash circulates into the crypto markets. I know fundamentals are the most important part of a project. I again could do mistakes in the next bull season but I will be more mature than to handle the situation. I do take some losses but the lesson it gave me would save a hell lot of money in the future.

Yes, when I entered crypto, it was 2017, so there is a massive bull run and thought of quitting my job to focus more on crypto trading. But then again, the bear market sets in and it's good that I didn't quit my job otherwise I don't have enough money to put in the table. So maybe that time I really FOMO and yeah, I was inexperienced because I never seen a bearish cycle. I'm more mature now and really saving for the future and still investing in this bearish trend because it's where the money can be made for the future.
People who only fall for FOMO are those who are less knowledgeable and are motivated by greed, so good thing you didn't fall for that. Although there are still inevitable losses no matter how we invest with caution, but the fact that we become mature to handle all the uncertainties in crypto, investing in crypto particularly in times of market crash will always risky but you'll know you'll win if you remain strong and persistent until the market turns into bullish.
As OP mentioned you win or learn - - likewise some people come in your life as a blessing and some as lesson. Some incidents are life changing. While the others are serious lessons.. So one should be careful in dealing with everything.

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That is one of the basic of any investment you can win and you can loose .We are usually dealing with probability any thing can happen at any time one should only invest what he can afford to loose to stay on the safer side always.

You want to be on the safer side? Just buy and stack only Bitcoin. Altcoins are a lot more riskier investment than Bitcoin.
Projects could fail, or it could be a scam, or some unfortunate breech that would destroy the project.
But don't get me wrong, I'm not saying not to invest on altcoin totally, I only want to emphasize that when you're investing into altcoin, you'll never be on the safer side. You need boost your risk appetite instead, even though you have invested what you can afford to lose.

If you're not ready to take a risk on investment then having the benefit is not worth deserving as well, the worst one could do is to assume investments made on altcoins as risk free, no any investor will like to loose his coins on just nothing that does not worth taking the risk and that's why most people play safe by investing only on bitcoin and avoiding other cryptocurrencies, having the mindset of either winning or loosing at first place doesn't mean everyone's can afford to manage running a loss.



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July 02, 2022, 10:55:52 PM
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Now I know how cash circulates into the crypto markets. I know fundamentals are the most important part of a project. I again could do mistakes in the next bull season but I will be more mature than to handle the situation. I do take some losses but the lesson it gave me would save a hell lot of money in the future.

Yes, when I entered crypto, it was 2017, so there is a massive bull run and thought of quitting my job to focus more on crypto trading. But then again, the bear market sets in and it's good that I didn't quit my job otherwise I don't have enough money to put in the table. So maybe that time I really FOMO and yeah, I was inexperienced because I never seen a bearish cycle. I'm more mature now and really saving for the future and still investing in this bearish trend because it's where the money can be made for the future.
People who only fall for FOMO are those who are less knowledgeable and are motivated by greed, so good thing you didn't fall for that. Although there are still inevitable losses no matter how we invest with caution, but the fact that we become mature to handle all the uncertainties in crypto, investing in crypto particularly in times of market crash will always risky but you'll know you'll win if you remain strong and persistent until the market turns into bullish.

I think everyone who goes into the crypto world must have been a FOMO, and in the end made us suffer losses. As long as we want to learn from
our mistakes, we should understand more about how to make a profit in the crypto world. Moreover, the crypto market is very volatile, this makes
it difficult for us to predict where the market will move. That's the importance of never giving up and never stop learning, moreover crypto trends
also change frequently. So really need patience in learning crypto, I even had to experience some losses, even to the point of losing large sums of
money to understand how the crypto world works. But if we never give up with all the failures that we experience, and keep trying to fix every
mistake we make. Then in the end success will come to us by itself.

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July 02, 2022, 11:11:14 PM
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1. Money management is very important. It is better to have some plan than no plan.
Definitely, money management is very crucial every time we are doing investment, moreover investing in cryptocurrency. This will include the target price to take profits, how much to buy, how much to sell, and how much profits to gain. This is to avoid being greedy and to make ourselves ready for the amount to lose.
And because of bad money management, too, I also experience the same big losses  Grin
And exactly, there must be plan A, Plan B, and Plan C at least.

2. Opportunity will come again and again so do not FOMO.
I do believe this as long as the coins that we are investing in are Bitcoin or top coins that will probably survive during this bearish. There are some coins that still have the opportunity to come back, but some other coins may be heading a difficult situation.

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