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June 21, 2022, 11:36:12 PM
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If this is a simulation bot regarding with the dice i guess it is better to show up which language you use to come up with this at the same is some sort of code to think if this is a reliable or not having a piece of an image without context does give a huge vague to the community.

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June 21, 2022, 11:40:24 PM
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Just look at this screenshot and you know what I mean.
But why not move this thread to the gambling discussion section?

Some know what you mean, and the rest don't care about what you have to offer. But I think people should not be easily fooled by what is considered tempting. If one wants to gamble and earn multiples of profit, all you have to do is visit a casino and play as you wish. Gambling is personal which does not need to tie the offer of another party in your finances at the casino.

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June 21, 2022, 11:59:03 PM
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Too good to be true. You have to remember that we can simulate everything mate but you will never be able to have the same result in actual gaming.

I know you are trying to make an algorithm that can beat the house edge however, it's not possible in the long run. That's why it's called house-edge in the first place. If your tool is effective for you, it's best to just keep it to yourself.

The community is also not encouraging the use of random bots, scripts, algorithms, systems, and applications by anyone, anybody.
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June 22, 2022, 12:20:37 AM
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Theories and assumptions are nice on paper until they are proven to be working. I'm not saying that things like this couldn't happen, but in a real world scenario this is very far from happening unless you have extreme luck on your side. I can create a program, run biased algorithms, and let it print nice numbers too and post a screenshot of it in the forum to entice people to try it.

Why not use your script/bot for yourself in a real casino and let us see the results? Maybe you'll find a prospective buyer too.

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June 22, 2022, 02:36:45 AM
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Why not use your script/bot for yourself in a real casino and let us see the results? Maybe you'll find a prospective buyer too.
Mostly who built scripts/bots choose to sell them instead of using permanently for themselves because they know there is no guarantee that they will always get a win or the percentage of win is greater than the loss. And more than that the seller knows that many casinos do not allow the use of bots in casinos if it is detected it will harm the user's account so for him selling it is more profitable.

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June 22, 2022, 03:36:18 AM
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1. You want to borrow $17,987,638.71 from someone in this forum?
2. You want to sell your strategy/script?

I know what you mean is I pointed above and it's just a calculation, there's no guarantee. If your strategy/script do 100% work, you can try it yourself with smaller amount and you can multiply your money again and again to become rich. If you can become rich from your strategy, why need to sell your strategy/script? Critical thinking guys...
Besides simple common sense dictates that there must be something wrong with the simulation instead of this being a successful example of a new strategy being born, after all if it was as simple as doing a simulation to beat a casino then something should be wrong with the casino itself, and in that case another player should have found that mistake long ago and make a lot of money, so the script probably has a flaw somewhere and the OP has not realized it yet.

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Sorry for my late response because I was so busy outsise while the forum does not view good on my smartphone.

The bot I used was Seuntjie. I do not mean to sell anything nor borrwo money. I was just so excited with this simulation result. I previously posted a script and a novel strategy named DeepSum on our forum. Everything is just for fun, not for money. I am a university professor from Vietnam and I am not a gambler but ta this game very challenging and interesting entertainment.

The reason why I got a super profit this time is because I increase the base bet proportional to the balabce size. So it magnify by a geometric progression. I decreased the risk by reducing the profit rate. But by geometric progression, when it survives long enough the long run, an amazingly impossivle result came out.

10.000.000 bets equal running on Primedice for 10 months. Only simulation can do this.

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10.000.000 bets equal running on Primedice for 10 months. Only simulation can do this.
This is the critical point here. Simulation doesn't necessarily imply real world observations which is why you shouldn't completely trust simulation data no matter how reliable it may seem.

There are proven ways to beat the house in the short-term and long-term practically, but they all have a catch(Card counting, Arbitrage betting, Roulette wheel bias etc).

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June 22, 2022, 12:26:39 PM
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Sorry for my late response because I was so busy outsise while the forum does not view good on my smartphone.

The bot I used was Seuntjie. I do not mean to sell anything nor borrwo money. I was just so excited with this simulation result. I previously posted a script and a novel strategy named DeepSum on our forum. Everything is just for fun, not for money. I am a university professor from Vietnam and I am not a gambler but ta this game very challenging and interesting entertainment.

In that case, it would have been better to include this post in your previous topic, where you published the script for your "novel" strategy, instead of creating a new topic with almost no information included. One would expect a university professor to know how to use an online forum effectively, right?

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10.000.000 bets equal running on Primedice for 10 months. Only simulation can do this.


Simulations are unrealistic, you're a professor you should know better if you posted something like this you should also post your own opinion not asking for others opinion, so people doubted you for posting they thought you are on something bad like selling script or borrowing money, people did not see the point of you posting this, because you are not telling us anything, very unlikely for a professor, you left us all speculating without giving your own reason for posting this.

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Just look at this screenshot and you know what I mean.



Statistics is something of really cool because it shows to you that something that is really easy will ruin you in the long term, and something of impossible can become possible in rare case. Simulator act only for maths low

but doesn't predicts also human behavior (you would continue a negative series of 15 bets?), so this stats doesn't work so good, don't think about it and play with your method, this is the best thing for you, and it will be

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10.000.000 bets equal running on Primedice for 10 months. Only simulation can do this.


Simulations are unrealistic, you're a professor you should know better if you posted something like this you should also post your own opinion not asking for others opinion, so people doubted you for posting they thought you are on something bad like selling script or borrowing money, people did not see the point of you posting this, because you are not telling us anything, very unlikely for a professor, you left us all speculating without giving your own reason for posting this.

One of the signs that it is unrealistic is the only 22 losing streak in a 10,000,000 bet.  Many dice players got more than that in just thousands of bets.  So with a real dice game, I think it will be more than 22 losing streaks.


The reason why I got a super profit this time is because I increase the base bet proportional to the balabce size. So it magnify by a geometric progression. I decreased the risk by reducing the profit rate. But by geometric progression, when it survives long enough the long run, an amazingly impossivle result came out.

Is this some kind of martingale strategy? Since you stated the bolded part, so I got to think that you are doing a martingale method on that simulation.

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Simulations are unrealistic, you're a professor you should know better if you posted something like this you should also post your own opinion not asking for others opinion, so people doubted you for posting they thought you are on something bad like selling script or borrowing money, people did not see the point of you posting this, because you are not telling us anything, very unlikely for a professor, you left us all speculating without giving your own reason for posting this.

I totally agree, with simulations, we can get the result we want with the right seed, as an example let me show you how I get a x330,000 in less than 6k bets:


While OP sends its balance to x1000 in 10,000,000 bets, I send it to x3240 in 6000 bets. So, simulations don't work to predict how the rolls will come. It helps us to get an idea of what could happen if we have the right luck.

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from these simulation you can get one of "infinite" possible scenario. probably you can win but probably you can lose!
both option are the same. I am a bit skeptical because there is house edge to be counted ! It's mathematical that in the long runs casino has the advantage to win even with the best strategy. With OP simulation there is a "larger" wallet + infinte bets.
I don't know if this is really possible in a real life setting Roll Eyes

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I previously posted a script and a novel strategy named DeepSum on our forum.
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OP, is this the topic you are talking about: Deepsum: a Novel Algorithm for Bitcoin Dice Roulette ?
I noticed you posted that topic almost two years ago. What prompted you to publish this screenshot now? Doesn't that prove your script doesn't work? Because if the script worked, I doubt you would still be a university professor today.  Grin

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from these simulation you can get one of "infinite" possible scenario. probably you can win but probably you can lose!
both option are the same. I am a bit skeptical because there is house edge to be counted ! It's mathematical that in the long runs casino has the advantage to win even with the best strategy. With OP simulation there is a "larger" wallet + infinte bets.
I don't know if this is really possible in a real life setting Roll Eyes

The house edge will always play out its edge over the gambler, this simulation is very debatable because it's only a probability, it can happen and it will not play out, I have not used a stimulation before but all I know is a simulation without a house edge s not realistic, although there is one example that shows simulation helped him win gambling is still a luck-based game even if you have a larger wallet to try to beat the house.

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from these simulation you can get one of "infinite" possible scenario. probably you can win but probably you can lose!
both option are the same. I am a bit skeptical because there is house edge to be counted ! It's mathematical that in the long runs casino has the advantage to win even with the best strategy. With OP simulation there is a "larger" wallet + infinte bets.
I don't know if this is really possible in a real life setting Roll Eyes
It's the truth about gambling. It's typically characterised by luck and that is some high stake probability. No algorithm or simulation can assure you of a win. The both might have put a lot of constraints in check and determine all possible ways it could turn but somehow, you could end up loosing even up to a 100 triers. That's to tell you that, not every consideration would be met and you don't control the system.
Gambling is supposed to be a fair play game and should you be expecting the house to go fair with you, you as well have to understand that, there is no short cut to making predictions or having an edge over the house. Play, while staking what you could afford to loose and be hopeful.

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June 22, 2022, 11:10:02 PM
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That's just a visual and there's no guarantee that someone you want to try it will have exact numbers as projected, if that's what you mean to say from that screenshot.
So, simulations don't work to predict how the rolls will come. It helps us to get an idea of what could happen if we have the right luck.
Exactly, it's just a projection with numbers on how much you could get and what will be the possible result for those numbers but in actual, they're all going to change and not accurate as the one you've projected.

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June 23, 2022, 03:48:19 AM
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10.000.000 bets equal running on Primedice for 10 months. Only simulation can do this.

It is just a simulation that can be used for possible happen in a particular bet but it doesn't mean there's a higher chance it will happen. Also with the algorithm use with this there's a huge chance that will get a good outcome with the game but again it is gambling can be unpredictable and luck it is just an idea to use for having an insight into the possible game like the demo mode.

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June 23, 2022, 03:54:31 AM
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Dice bots don’t work. I know what you are trying to say. You think you found the way to make infinite money. The truth is just you were lucky. This sequence/algo you use won’t make you money every time you use it. You will lose sometimes too and in the long run you’ll lose everything because of the house edge. It is just maths.

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