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I don't mind about woman or transgender or about man. It is ridicolous to discriminate a category only for its sex. So, If in a team plays a transgender, I don't mind and always put my bet if I want to do that. This thing
to put a label on every sort of thing is becoming ridicolous, considering that we're in 2022. Instead, to only thing that I'm not in agree is to put my bet on match fixed, it isn't ethical and reasonable for me to do this.
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June 23, 2022, 11:05:17 AM |
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What would be my take for not betting on a transgender sports event that is futured on a bookie?
The truth is, I don't support the transgender shit and a man with female induced hormones and systems doesn't really make him a female, that's a man right there and the same goes for female to male swap. It's going to introduce some bias into the events or sports, given that the male is sure tobhave some advantage and that puts the gambler at an advantage. If you recall from the Olympic mixed gender sports event, the male did good when mixed with the female and the same would play out in a transgender sport should they dare to mix them. The only reason I wing bet is to discourage the transgender practice else, it's it's cool way to make some wins.
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June 23, 2022, 11:23:02 AM |
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If the world is going down the road of gender reassignment and self-identification, I think transgender people should compete in a separate category of athletes because transgender women will be stronger and tougher than normal women anyway, so I think it's a kind of cheating in sports. I welcome fair competition and I wouldn't want my bet to lose because any of the athletes take advantage of the transgender advantage.
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June 23, 2022, 11:39:05 AM |
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What is the point in having separate games for just 0.1% of the population? In Olympics we have separate events for males and females because both these groups are almost equal in population. So it doesn't make any sense to have separate competition for trans athletes. In that case why we are having a separate Games for handicapped athletes (Paralympics)? Why can't we include that also in the Olympic Games. I would rather limit the Olympic Games to male and female competitions. Trans athletes can compete in men's section.
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June 23, 2022, 11:42:44 AM |
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I wonder what they mean when they said "open category". does this mean anyone can join in that category? meaning man, woman, trans, etc...? "FINA will always welcome every athlete. The creation of an open category will mean that everybody has the opportunity to compete at an elite level," I don't know but bookies will probably open a different line for the events exclusive for them. Would you bet if they do?
I don't mind, I don't really see anything wrong if betting on a sport that has a category exclusively for transgender. but I wonder if there are enough transgender athletes to build a market for it in the sports betting industry.
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June 23, 2022, 12:05:08 PM |
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it's not fair and it's not good for the general welfare of the sports, we don't want to come where the majority of athletes are transgender because sports organizations will have an edge in fielding transgender, even if science thinks they have a valid findings that transgender has no edge over a true woman still the psychological edge is always there.
I agree that they should have their own events they have a place in the sporting events but they should compete with their kinds for the sake of fairness and integrity of the sports community.
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It wouldn't be unfair to real women because they have to compete with transgender people. But if it is transgender who competes with other transgender people, it can be fair because they are the same. Maybe in the future, there will be more events for transgender because they may ask for or make a policy that they are the same as men and women. But for bookies, I don't know much about it because until now, transgender matches have not been very popular in many countries, and only certain countries allow it.
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June 23, 2022, 01:43:33 PM |
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It wouldn't be unfair to real women because they have to compete with transgender people. But if it is transgender who competes with other transgender people, it can be fair because they are the same. Maybe in the future, there will be more events for transgender because they may ask for or make a policy that they are the same as men and women. But for bookies, I don't know much about it because until now, transgender matches have not been very popular in many countries, and only certain countries allow it.
Well I don't think there's many transgender out there and the reason they're transgender isn't for sport, but they want to make his looks like female/man and that's for money purpose or popularity. I think transgender do have extra treatment for his body, so they're not really free like the real gender.
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June 23, 2022, 01:57:26 PM |
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I have nothing against transgender in fact I admire these people for being true to themselves and achieving their freedom to be themselves but we are talking about sports, I believe natural women should go against natural women and I'm fully supporting events exclusively for them in fact we should encourage events that will make them excels because they too have contribution to sports, and we must not discriminate them.
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June 23, 2022, 02:18:39 PM |
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I think it will just be a matter of time before other sports organization will follow after them. Will there be a good market for this? I don't know but bookies will probably open a different line for the events exclusive for them. Would you bet if they do?
I do not think that there will be no significance if the game involves a transgender or not- what matters is that the game is competitive and is available to all for betting. There have been some discussions about allowing transgender people to participate to their respective sexes. Since a transgender person also involves the change of hormones and physical physique, there will be naturally some sort of gender bias in their participation to the events. Though this may be the case, I doubt that it would be of such significance to warrant this kind of prohibition.
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June 23, 2022, 02:55:46 PM |
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It will be in favor of the transgender we cannot stop thinking that the participant was once a man and he retains some train of being a man and that's a huge disadvantage for the transgender even if science proves otherwise, I will bet if I really want to make money, but I doubt if you are going to really make money from betting because the majority will still bet for the transgender, we all know gamblers bet for athletes with a slight advantage over the others.
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June 23, 2022, 03:05:59 PM |
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I have nothing against transgender in fact I admire these people for being true to themselves and achieving their freedom to be themselves but we are talking about sports, I believe natural women should go against natural women and I'm fully supporting events exclusively for them in fact we should encourage events that will make them excels because they too have contribution to sports, and we must not discriminate them.
Its a fact that discrimination exist everywhere even this 2022 either race, occupation, gender, age and looks is the worse kind of it. There is no denying to this but I think the transgender community has to understand that it discrimination always exist. If the sports org and competing women doesnt protest, then its good. If there is, I guess accepting it is just the way it is. But I would certainly bet on the transgender if allowed to participate.
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June 23, 2022, 03:19:57 PM |
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Obviously the transgender "women" are going to have a massive biological advantage in any physically demanding sports against the biological, real women. So why would I not take the free cake and bet on them? Of course I would. I am sure that there are people so fundamentally woke they would rather lose money than acknowledge reality but I do not belong to that specific group of people. Nor would I ever wish to belong to them. People's lives in the west have become so comfortable and boring that they are actively seeking problems. And when they do not find them, they make problems up. Problems which never existed and should have never existed.
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June 23, 2022, 03:26:04 PM |
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It will be in favor of the transgender we cannot stop thinking that the participant was once a man and he retains some train of being a man and that's a huge disadvantage for the transgender even if science proves otherwise, I will bet if I really want to make money, but I doubt if you are going to really make money from betting because the majority will still bet for the transgender, we all know gamblers bet for athletes with a slight advantage over the others.
Transgenders strength has an edge over women because they were naturally born as men. I think that won't be a fair sport if they will fight against each other. I'm not against transgender or even discriminating against them but they could create their community in sports gambling without harming women. Some women might also feel uncomfortable fighting against transgenders.
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June 23, 2022, 03:33:30 PM |
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It would be wonderful if they had their own specific sport category. However, if they are given this option, I believe there are fewer of them here. Another issue is that some transgender people dislike being labeled as such, making it difficult for them to reveal their gender when playing sports, even if they are interested in doing so.
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I think not ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Transgender events are a bit new and it would be hard for betters to get player information since we can expect that players are new to the eyes of the people. That way the better confidence are a bit low. I'm sure that the hype within that kind of events is high especially on their own community but we can expect it to go down after some weeks and people might lose interest since people are more interested in more skilled or famous athletes that are playing the same game.
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June 23, 2022, 06:46:35 PM |
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I doubt that such a possibility ever existed, since it is unlikely that bookmakers are so stupid as not to understand that a man who calls himself a woman is much stronger than real women. In fact, you can bet on anything (even transgender competitions among themselves), the only question is whether it is profitable or not. I do not see any arguments in favor of the fact that it will be more profitable than betting on regular competitions.
This will be profitable in my opinion, if in case, you are very familiar with those athletes. If you know their strengths and their performance level, I do think that's your advantage if you do bet on them. I don't see anything wrong betting on their events. I treat it as just another regular sporting events. It is up to you how you will see them as athletes. But should not look them differently, in my opinion. In order for the bet to be profitable, you need to not only know the sporting event you are betting on well, but you need to know it better than bookmakers and find the moment when they make a mistake. If such a market appears, then it will probably fit such an algorithm of actions, since this market will be scanty and difficult to predict.
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June 23, 2022, 07:17:59 PM |
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- Would you bet if they do?
No, the exact reason I wouldn't bet anything when don't know the team of each player. Actually I was quite surprised to hear that there are sports with special players like them, sorry but to be honest I prefer women's or men's sports, because there are already competitions in any league regarding this. Because Transgender is still new, so its strength is still in doubt, haven't seen any betting market that makes this event too.
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June 23, 2022, 08:31:50 PM |
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If they are making the transgender only event,sure there will be a market for them,but will it be popular? Looking at the respond of the people,i think it will take quite a long time for it to be recognized.Will i bet for this kind of event? If there are many people who participate,why not?
I'm not against transgender or something in related which answering the question if I do make some bets? Of course if I could see and know their past games or statistics because that what matter the most where games you do know and the players involved and their history and other related facts.Doesnt matter on what's the gender as long it do suits your interest and preferred sports and knowledge then thats what really counts. That is right, we shouldn't be against on those types of gender because that will be discrimination and they will feel hurt if they know it. They are also a person that is created by god which should be treated normally or equally as what we treat the others. Seeing their past games would not be possible if this is going to be the first time they will create such category but that shouldn't discourage you from betting. You can still place a bet based on your instincts and you can use smaller amounts only for the first time. The response or the interest of the people right now for this category is low but that is because they are not being advertised and the focus are always on the common genders.
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Zackgeno96
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June 23, 2022, 08:59:26 PM |
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In fact, technically it shouldn't matter. The odds you see at the bookmakers are based on facts. So whether you bet on a man, woman or transgender that has no influence. Of course, a transgender man to woman is stronger because of the testosterone that the body produces. But then the chances of winning the event are higher, so the odds will be lower. We have already seen a case of a transgender person in the past, but I do believe that all kinds of tests and examinations have been carried out by doctors and before to check the testosterone level.
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