Royse777, Bitlucy and long story in brief

[yahoo62278]

Dear bitcointalk friends, colleague, competitors (sorry if this sounds bad but it is an unfold truth!)
I really find it stressful when a few are thinking what things I have to hide, why not I bring everything in public?

Yes, I have many reasons to conduct private. If this is not possible then limit it to a circle at least. It is very important for me not to publicize the blockchain transactions which will easily lead to the online services I use or the wallets I use frequently which even could take back to the main storage I have. Isn't all risky for me?

I didn't want other bitcointalk users to be in trouble who were as helpless as me in this situation. The faces a few of you already showed me, makes me think that sharing them even in private with some of you would be riskier for me, forget about being them in public. If I really need to black out or censor some sections then what is the point to share it at all.

Dear Yahoo and JollyGood, maybe privacy does not mean much to you but it matters for me. Looking at how you conduct your business, the theory and strategy you are applying to justify the case, it's not very good for someone to share private info to you, at-least not me.

It's dirty when you pretend to be a friend to benefit your business.

Sorry, I wanted to digest all blames on me but some of you were taking the opportunity to overdo it.

Let's start with blockchain transactions. I could care less about any address you might have had money sent to or sent from. Sounds like an excuse to me, but the blockchain is public, not private just in case you weren't aware. Regardless I have never asked for an address I don't believe. I'm also not asking for your home address( another thing I do not care to know).

What is being asked for is you to prove you are not the owner of the casino(which most of us do not believe you are), prove via conversations with this mystery person whom you are so good of friends with that you are innocent. I don't see any reason why you wouldn't want to prove that.

BTW I'm using no strategy here. 1 company contacted me due to your rep for a 1 week campaign. Don't get yourself in a mess and companies wouldn't wanna stop associating with you. I did not cause your mess so don't try to blame me for your mistakes.

You called yourself a partner, people lost money, I think you are lucky you aren't painted red by 50 users at this point. Most of us are trying to give you a chance to clear your name, but IMO you are letting anger get the best of you and not solving much of anything.

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[AB de Royse777]

What is being asked for is you to prove you are not the owner of the casino(which most of us do not believe you are), prove via conversations with this mystery person whom you are so good of friends with that you are innocent. I don't see any reason why you wouldn't want to prove that.

At least ask some of the users who worked with the owner. Even some of them already told in public that it was not me. I don't understand how you missed it if you are so much involved in the case or al least you feel you are.

Most of us are trying to give you a chance to clear your name, but IMO you are letting anger get the best of you and not solving much of anything.

Please don't. I am not asking for it to have your sympathy. Haven't you done your part yet?

Let's start with blockchain transactions. I could care less about any address you might have had money sent to or sent from. Sounds like an excuse to me, but the blockchain is public, not private just in case you weren't aware. Regardless I have never asked for an address I don't believe. I'm also not asking for your home address( another thing I do not care to know).

Don't lecture me blockchain. I know very well how it works. When I connect an address known to me which I don't want in public then I don't. The moment I tell an address is mine know to everyone that it's mine.

[NotATether]

Out of curiosity, how much of the decision to pull the plug on the project was down to there being dwindling finances?

I'd say 50%. Owner was going to launch with a reserve of just $10K in USDT, it was all he could muster. I was also going to contribute about $2K to the bankroll until my finances were hit with a really bad and completely unrelated scam last October [which I have since recovered from]. I was also managing $300/month worth of servers arranged in a K8s cluster that was supposed to host the backend.

This corresponded to a quite ugly (at the time) drop of the BTC price, and with the slow progress being made, it simply did not make sense to continue throwing bankroll money at infrastructure, and that's when I decided to pull the plug - at first by delaying the launch, as I genuinely thought the markets would recover. They did not, as we can all see, and actually since I withdrew they've gotten even worse.

And although I wasn't paid for my work - which is something I specifically negotiated with him to avoid straining the finances, and that I'd get a large share of the casino revenue - the owner ultimately could not pay for additional developers to save the project. Everyone was basically going to get a share of the revenue at launch, so no salaries bogging down the bankroll here. I get the impression that the owner was not wealthy (he told me this project was specifically to generate some wealth for him).

Well, I have to say from what I recall you seem very talented in your code related tips, advice, comments and contributions in the forum therefore how much of the project not proceeding was simply a side effect because you were no longer a part of it? I would not be surprised if you were carrying the bulk of the workload which resulted in you being the main catalyst therefore that probably played a massive part.

Sure, I was the main driving force of the project, but I was also the last one to leave it (not including the owner). I'm not Superman - there's only so much that I can do by myself. So that's why the project became crippled when developers suddenly started disappearing.

I hope in the near future your skills will be put to good use in a different project where your talents will be showcased to their maximum potential.

Thank you, I appreciate it.

The Michael Jordan quote about failure is relevant here. (And also for Royse as well.)


Anyway, Royse, I think that it is sufficient to publish excepts of your Telegram convos with the owner (screenshots are sufficient - no photo attachments, blockchain transactions, personal info etc - your username can be blacked out for privacy) to silence the critics here. That's what I'd do if people started accusing me about my gig. Of course, I also had blockchain transactions in the convo (I was not too close & comfortable with him - our business was strictly professional). Besides, trolls could claim that the blockchain transactions do not prove anything.

[LoyceV]

What is being asked for is you to prove you are not the owner of the casino

I wouldn't know how I can prove I'm not the owner of Bitlucy, so that's pretty much impossible for Royse777 too.

Most of us are trying to give you a chance to clear your name, but IMO you are letting anger get the best of you and not solving much of anything.

I concur. I think it's better to respond a bit more often here, even if it's just to say trolls like bislom (who's now on my Ignore list) are wrong.

[yahoo62278]

What is being asked for is you to prove you are not the owner of the casino(which most of us do not believe you are), prove via conversations with this mystery person whom you are so good of friends with that you are innocent. I don't see any reason why you wouldn't want to prove that.

At least ask some of the users who worked with the owner. Even some of them already told in public that it was not me. I don't understand how you missed it if you are so much involved in the case or al least you feel you are.

Most of us are trying to give you a chance to clear your name, but IMO you are letting anger get the best of you and not solving much of anything.

Please don't. I am not asking for it to have your sympathy. Haven't you done your part yet?

Let's start with blockchain transactions. I could care less about any address you might have had money sent to or sent from. Sounds like an excuse to me, but the blockchain is public, not private just in case you weren't aware. Regardless I have never asked for an address I don't believe. I'm also not asking for your home address( another thing I do not care to know).

Don't lecture me blockchain. I know very well how it works. When I connect an address known to me which I don't want in public then I don't. The moment I tell an address is mine know to everyone that it's mine.

I will not respond here again, it looks like you just want to get smug with me. Good luck with your ventures on the forum, make better decisions!!!!

[AnotherAlt]

What is being asked for is you to prove you are not the owner of the casino(which most of us do not believe you are), prove via conversations with this mystery person whom you are so good of friends with that you are innocent. I don't see any reason why you wouldn't want to prove that.

At least ask some of the users who worked with the owner. Even some of them already told in public that it was not me. I don't understand how you missed it if you are so much involved in the case or al least you feel you are.

What is being asked for is you to prove you are not the owner of the casino

I wouldn't know how I can prove I'm not the owner of Bitlucy, so that's pretty much impossible for Royse777 too.

I guess I can help a little bit.
@Royse777, I want to be anonymous in this forum. After this post, Only you, bitlucy owner, and another guy from this forum will know who am I. Please don't reveal me.

@yahoo62278 I was referred by a guy from this forum to Royse777. Bitlucy was looking for a Support Agent and I was looking for a job.
Since there is a question raised about Royse777 being the owner of Bitlucy or not, I can confirm that it doesn't look to me that he is the owner.
I was looking for a full conversation with Bitlucy owner and Royse777. But, I figured out either Royse777 or Bitlucy Owner Deleted the group and cleared the conversation. So I am unable to submit the full conversation. But, at that time, I took three screenshots to give to my current employer. That's all I have right now. After reading the conversation, You may decide something.




One From Personal Chat With Royse

[NotATether]

I guess I can help a little bit.
@Royse777, I want to be anonymous in this forum. After this post, Only you, bitlucy owner, and another guy from this forum will know who am I. Please don't reveal me.

@yahoo62278 I was referred by a guy from this forum to Royse777. Bitlucy was looking for a Support Agent and I was looking for a job.
Since there is a question raised about Royse777 being the owner of Bitlucy or not, I can confirm that it doesn't look to me that he is the owner.
I was looking for a full conversation with Bitlucy owner and Royse777. But, I figured out either Royse777 or Bitlucy Owner Deleted the group and cleared the conversation. So I am unable to submit the full conversation. But, at that time, I took three screenshots to give to my current employer. That's all I have right now. After reading the conversation, You may decide something.


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One From Personal Chat With Royse

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Good, so this should mop all the skeptism about Royse not being the Bitlucy owner under the rug. Now can we all move on from this Shakespearean drama?

[bislom]

Royse the clown is still really believe his own lies? Notather only showed us now that he is an aky of royse or just a friend.

Royse told that he invested 3.2K from his own pocket. But wait, he did not know the guy well? He just send him a message and Royse decided to invest 3.2K to somebody with a website that he does not even know in real life? LOOOOOOOOL 

[dkbit98]

It's dirty when you pretend to be a friend to benefit your business.

He never pretended to be a friend and you don't know what happened with him taking over some of your campaigns, but I guess I could also ask him to prove how he got this latest job  
However, Royse I think you don't need to reply like this with counter attacks, it's much better to prove you are not owner with few telegram conversation screenshots.
One image speaks better than thousand words, and I have to say that you could handle this much better.

I think that JollyGood and Yahoo62278 are being a bit overzealous, especially Yahoo62278 who gave Royse a negative feedback just because he was not happy with answer he got from Royse.
Yahoo should read better what was written in this topic before, because I said that me and several of DT members read some of his private conversation, that is showing he is not the owner of Bitlucy, so no need to keep insisting so hard on that.
I have no idea why he keeps pushing so hard and it's not like his history of campaigns is perfect, or was it ok to promote Yobit and similar stuff

yahoo62278

2022-07-03

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User that got involved with a scam casino and is not looking to clear their name. Blames competitors for them losing business that are really only looking out for the forum users

Guys, we don't need manager wars in forum  

[NotATether]

Royse the clown is still really believe his own lies? Notather only showed us now that he is an aky of royse or just a friend.

I did not show anything. All the evidence was posted here by @AnotherAlt.

[AnotherAlt]

Royse the clown is still really believe his own lies? Notather only showed us now that he is an aky of royse or just a friend.

I did not show anything. All the evidence was posted here by @AnotherAlt.

I think it's better to respond a bit more often here, even if it's just to say trolls like bislom (who's now on my Ignore list) are wrong.

It's Better not to respond to those trolls like this guy. LoyceV already put him on the ignoring list. You better follow LoyceV.
I know after this post, This troll will say I am also a friend of Royse777 or some of you.
But, I want to tell. I know Royse777 as a good campaign manager but never worked with Royse777 before.
I am still afraid because Royse777 is not my friend and I can get exposed by Royse anytime. I am just trying to tell the truth here.
I hope Royse will help me stay anonymous. Else, I have to quit this forum.

[AB de Royse777]

Guys, we don't need manager wars in forum  

History of JollyGood matches very well for the side he took in this case too. JollyGood is out of question for me. A hundred dollar per week for few weeks was not going to change anything for me so there were no manager issue from me. But yahoo taken his notes on this.

I really do not understand yahoo's crying. Stretching anything is fine but it seems he will not be satisfied no matter how far the situation is stretched. Did he feel bad because I did not give him attention that why did I not share him whatever I shared with few users?
1st you were not in mind like there are many others.
2nd I wanted to share with the people who were already involved in the conversation and have good judgemental power.
3rd you did not achieve a level of trust that needed from you, sorry.
4th you did not ask nicely.

Question of me being the same guy as Bitlucy?
1. This does not make sense. The campaign manager is a liar? Yahoo even merited the post. Okay considering he did not read the post.
2. dkbit98 is confirming.
3. A confirmation here.
4. Another user confirmed somewhere.
5. Another one here.
6. He could ask the designer I mentioned in the OP.

It seems he does not want to accept anything at all.

I will not respond here again, it looks like you just want to get smug with me. Good luck with your ventures on the forum, make better decisions!!!!

Ta-ta!
Your good luck sounds go to hell to me but thank you.
However, right now it's not clear who is to get smug with who, not at least after the tag you left which sounds retaliatory. Getting suggestion or advice of making better decision from you really does not make much meaning for me considering the history you have to protect your employer in the past. Are you asking the card you played, I should have played similar card? Sorry I do not play dirty. I like to play real as much as humanly possible.

I hope Royse will help me stay anonymous.

Your secrets are safe with me as I sent PM earlier to assure you. I appreciate your courage. Thank you.
It was me who deleted the chat because that group was temporary to only have the group conversation between three of us. We conducted many recruiting and with all of them there were similar temporary groups which were deleted after successful or unsuccessful hire.

That's what I'd do if people started accusing me about my gig.

If you are privacy concerned then it's not easy for you to make everything public. I have given some reasons already. We make mistakes but the privacy is more important than the reputation I have. I hope you understand it.

[Maidak]

It seems now started personal attacking,, 

So, nowadays people can scam forum members without having any forum account, lol.

The person who wanted to spend ~$10K on Bitcointalk, without having any forum account or website, At a certain period claimed Bitcointalk is a hostile place and decided to cut all connections,, lol.

Curious mind wants to know if Lucy ^{[the mysterious guy]} is watching these fights !!

[Little Mouse]

Curious mind wants to know if Lucy ^{[the mysterious guy]} is watching these fights !!

If the guy is someone from bitcointalk and used Royse777's reputation by tricking him (which is the case here I think, Lucy used Royse777 reputation as face value), he is definitely watching all these. However, that's not the case here, that's not the purpose of this thread either.

[AnotherAlt]

So, nowadays people can scam forum members without having any forum account, lol.
The person who wanted to spend ~$10K on Bitcointalk, without having any forum account or website, At a certain period claimed Bitcointalk is a hostile place and decided to cut all connections,, lol.

Bitlucy has a forum account that was created by them a few weeks ago I think. Why do you think they don't have a website? As Royse said, The Lucy guy created the website and came back to Royse with the link.

Your secrets are safe with me as I sent PM earlier to assure you. I appreciate your courage. Thank you.
It was me who deleted the chat because that group was temporary to only have the group conversation between three of us. We conducted many recruiting and with all of them there were similar temporary groups which were deleted after successful or unsuccessful hire.

Thank you very much. TBH I didn't look for the group anymore when I saw there was a lot of drama happening on Bitcointalk. Thanks for the explanation.

[decodx]

Looks like something's gone wrong between some members in this thread. There has been a polarization, with some attacking on a personal level, which I think is wrong and not the topic of the discussion.
Royse, I understand your defensiveness, but I believe there are still some unanswered questions about your relationship with BitLucy owner and why you promoted his business so long despite its obvious red flags from the beginning. As dkbit98 pointed out, you don't need to reply like this with counterattacks, but rather with evidence and facts. This thread isn't about JollyGood, or yahoo62278, or any other member of this forum; rather, it's about your involvement in the BitLucy case, so there's really no point discussing their history. You did the same thing here when the accusations against the casino started piling up.

[coolcoinz]

He never pretended to be a friend and you don't know what happened with him taking over some of your campaigns, but I guess I could also ask him to prove how he got this latest job  

Unfortunately for Royse, he/she lost more than 1 campaign due to this.

It really looks like someone is making sure that businesses who hire Royse are well aware of his reputation and of his negative trust comments, which is why he's losing jobs.
I'm not taking sides here, just stating the facts.

Guys, we don't need manager wars in forum  

In business there's rarely any friends, only friends with benefits

[bislom]

Haha I am a troll. But this "troll" was right from the beginning. I already warned people how things will end up and royse777 and his site is a scam project.
AnotherAlt = Royse777 and LoyceV+Notether are probably Royse or a friend as well.
Time for Royse777 to stop the shit talk and pay the victims that he scammed

[rokuen]

Yeah. It is quite strange that some people sympathize with Royse777, who has been promoting scammers for months. It's like he's the victim not guys who trusted him. It was clear from the start that bitlucy would take any excuse not to pay but Royse777 was fine with all the red flags.

[Poker Player]

AnotherAlt = Royse777 and LoyceV+Notether are probably Royse or a friend as well.

You just blew what little credibility you had.

That you were right that the Bitlucy story was going to end badly is probably due to pure chance, like the monkey throwing darts and hitting the stock market. You probably can't see Royse777 because he tagged you for being a bounty cheather or member of 1xCrap on your other account, and everything you have said so far was wishful thinking, which in the case of Bitlucy, by chance has coincided with what has happened in the end.