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July 02, 2022, 08:54:15 AM
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4-   CLEAN the trading boys, and for me this its one of the most important things.
And when i said this im not saying you cant trade, but i refered to the boys who want to make money in short times and takes with they the childish way of thinking and also all the tricks of the traders. One of the worst its the “stop loss”. Because that tool produces a cascade in the Price, clearly affecting us when we are holding.
You made some points which I personally understand, but some other points, I don't really understand, like the one I quoted above, Now let's break it down.
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CLEAN the trading boys, and for me this its one of the most important things.
OK......Am listening.
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And when i said this im not saying you cant trade
OK, then what are you saying?, make me understand cus am kind of lost here.
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but i refered to the boys who want to make money in short times
What is the essence of trading in the place? Is it not to make some quick money? And besides, there are professional traders, who trading is their job, it's through trading they earn money for livelihood, why do you want to take food out of their mouth?
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and takes with they the childish way of thinking and also all the tricks of the traders.
LOL, everything in this life requires you apply some kind of trick to succeed, right?, just like you don't buy Bitcoin or any other altcoin carelessly, you first strategize, analyze the market, do some research, monitor the price movements first, wait for a good entry point before finally buying(doing this also is a trick), so also it is with trading, just like you are investing to make profit, so also a trader is trading to make profit, just as you employ tricks in order to buy at the best price that will guarantee you profit in the future, so also a trader need to employ tricks to be able to profit from the market at that moment.
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One of the worst its the “stop loss”. Because that tool produces a cascade in the Price, clearly affecting us when we are holding.
It's a lie and a misconception on your path, stop loss is not the reason why asset prices fall.
For example, you set a stop loss at a lower price from what the market price is, if your stop loss is triggered, it means the price of the asset in question was already falling and it hit your stop loss on its way down.
Hey, I feel you and I really understand what you are saying. I understand too that many people always talk about HODL which I believe in and practice most of the time but we cannot really rule out trading for those that know-how. Looking and the market even in this bear status, we cannot say people shouldn't trade because there have been some good opportunities for traders to have made good profits, and for those that know hao to, that's their thing to do.
Whether OP calls it tricks or what most others will refer to as strategies, it is required for you to be able to even call yourself a trader cos you need to understand the "TRICKS" of trading, without it, you are just gambling. I imagine a day that everyone that bought some crypto assets takes them off the exchanges to their private wallet and there is no single sell order in any exchange, as in no traders, what will that look like  Huh Just thinking out loud.


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July 02, 2022, 10:37:37 AM
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What's very positive about this bear market is, the narrative isn't "Bitcoin is dead". The current narrative is, "how low will Bitcoin crash, so I can Buy the DIP, HODL".
I agree on this narrative. Before, wheneve we hit a bear market, there were those negativity spreader and they're telling that bitcoin was dead and it will never recover.

Because they truly ever understood the "Honey Badger", and what underlying value it's bringing to this world, and what it's real underlying nature is. We haven't seen the full power of Bitcoin's capabilities, which can break down political strongholds. The attacker and the defender would be required to HODL Bitcoin.

That make sense, the full potential of bitcoin hasn't been seen yet.


Let's blame the lack of education, or the lack of honest people who are in the position to truly educate us the plebs. Too many are the people who focus more in the financials/economics of Bitcoin, and not enough focus on the technical/development/technological side, which can give us wider path in understanding what this technology is. It's obviously more than "just money".

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July 02, 2022, 12:02:04 PM
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I have to say that the best thing we could do right now would be having a bit of a fun in the crypto world when it is low, so you could be happy when it is higher again. You are right about the scam part though, there are so many people who end up losing their money in scams that they can't really see the reality of how awesome crypto could become.

I have even seen people who lose their money in scams, or in Luna most recently for example and then claim that ALL crypto is a big scam and everyone should stay away from it. Never truly understood why would bitcoin be a scam for example, if you lost money on Luna? Like what is their connection aside from being coins.

The scams not gonna stop at all. You would ROFL if I tell you they are bravely launching LUNA 2.0 and most surprising thing is peeps are ready to buy it even after the previous scam. They are portraying whole thing into commotions and grabbing peeps attention for being sorry. That’s ridiculous anyways.

The only escape route is Bitcoin. Its the real answer if wanna have safe heaven of investments. Literally our money is hard earned and it hurts when we loose it just like that. So be careful and witness the change from bear to bull soon.
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July 02, 2022, 12:35:33 PM
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If the price continues to rise then there is no chance for anyone who wants to invest bitcoin, when the bearmarket then this makes new users interested in investment and old users will continue to buy because they know the price will be normal again.
I hope people can use this moment to buy bitcoins and hold them until the price soars. But I also hope they don't buy using the all-in strategy because it's risky. It would be nice if they could split the money across multiple purchase orders to get bitcoins at a low price. This bear market position confuses people who want to enter the market because the price still fluctuates rapidly and makes them hesitate.

I hope that even new investors would see that the market is now opening an opportunity to for everyone to buy while the prices still aren't striking too high. When the market recovers, we might regret that we miss this opportunity to buy. Others might see this crash as a negative thing without noticing its positive impact.

Market is giving an opportunity to everyone, to be honest, this is a time where a seasoned investor and a beginner are almost the same as all have a chance to buy crypto with a Cheap price. The only difference is the mindset, old investors are always yearning for the bear season, and the more it falls, the more opportunities it offers. Newbies panic and panic sell because they think the market is going to collapse.

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July 02, 2022, 02:41:50 PM
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I honestly feel the same, many speculate that the next bull market will be in 2025 when the next bitcoin halving is scheduled but for me because of the mass adoption that happened during and after the pandemic
the rise of the NFT, and metaverse. I really expect that the bear season will not last long as expected but I also assume that the market will be very volatile and manipulated and the Bull season might be a short season as well.
But as long as the market goes up and down as it should be then it would be a healthy market.

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July 02, 2022, 07:29:26 PM
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Bitcoin, bnb, ethereum are coins that have greater potential than other coins.
Maybe some coins that are not well known can increase in highly but I think that's because a pump is coming to the coin.
But only the coins that have the potential to really increase and it's still a mystery which coin will increase first.
Be wary of enticing offers from one or more projects that say their coins will increase because, in reality, the coin can not do that.
The thing is, outside of those three, there will be "some" coins that will go higher than those, but there will be 95%+ that will go higher less or not go up at all. Which means that, if you pick these three then you are guaranteed a certain amount of return, but if you pick anything that is outside of these three, then you are rolling the dice and hoping that you would get lucky. Could you? Well the possibility is there and what you invest into could end up being something profitable for you.

But that is not going to be guaranteed thing, and you could end up losing it all. Why would you prefer to do something that would risk it all? Isn't it better to invest into something that is much more decent for you?

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July 02, 2022, 08:44:39 PM
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I have to say that the best thing we could do right now would be having a bit of a fun in the crypto world when it is low, so you could be happy when it is higher again. You are right about the scam part though, there are so many people who end up losing their money in scams that they can't really see the reality of how awesome crypto could become.
Indeed that is a pretty good thing but it looks like this will only happen to a few people who already understand the performance of Crypto because of the fact that currently a lot of people are still stuck and not feeling happy right now.
It would be better if they still have reserve funds there so that those who are stuck can add to their load while waiting for the bulls to occur.
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July 03, 2022, 12:22:20 PM
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This is also what I feel with the current market condition. Self-proclaimed trading expert/gurus aren't active anymore. The hype of play-to-earn is gone and new braindead games have stopped showing so those who invested on hype thinking they could make them a millionaire in short amount of time learned their lesson. PFP NFTs hype is also gone, there are many pfps created during bull season that is made only to milk the investors. People that are still here now in this bear market are the true believers of crypto. They should know that this is the perfect opportunity for them to become a millionaire for the next bull run.
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This is also what I feel with the current market condition. Self-proclaimed trading expert/gurus aren't active anymore. The hype of play-to-earn is gone and new braindead games have stopped showing so those who invested on hype thinking they could make them a millionaire in short amount of time learned their lesson. PFP NFTs hype is also gone, there are many pfps created during bull season that is made only to milk the investors. People that are still here now in this bear market are the true believers of crypto. They should know that this is the perfect opportunity for them to become a millionaire for the next bull run.
Those supposed trading experts were only interested in getting the viwes for the Youtube earnings or in promoting useless coins to anyone that will listen to them, now that the hype is gone their market has gotten so small that it is not profitable for them to create more content at this time, it is because of this we need to always be incredibly careful about those experts, since if they were as good as they claim then they will not need to promote themselves in that way and they will be able to live out of their trading and investment profits.
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This is also what I feel with the current market condition. Self-proclaimed trading expert/gurus aren't active anymore. The hype of play-to-earn is gone and new braindead games have stopped showing so those who invested on hype thinking they could make them a millionaire in short amount of time learned their lesson. PFP NFTs hype is also gone, there are many pfps created during bull season that is made only to milk the investors. People that are still here now in this bear market are the true believers of crypto. They should know that this is the perfect opportunity for them to become a millionaire for the next bull run.

It clearly shows that even those so called gurus did not predict this thing to happen or should I say they did not expect that market could be this so low. I stop my subscription to a trading signal expert in telegram because he is too optimistic, that's why I made my own call and been doing trading until now even though we're experiencing bear market. I still do believe that market will recover sooner or later.
Having mentors or gurus or something those people whom you do need to follow which im not really interested at all in the first place on where i do mostly ignore and would stick into my own analysis and stuffs.

We are all speculators on here and there's no such thing about precise predictor on the market because if they are really that good then they wont really be looking for people who would follow or subscribe into them
and if we do just make use of our own common sense then its not really that something realistic or ideal and not really worth at all.

Being optimistic isnt really that bad but you shouldnt really come into a point that it is not really that realistic to happen specially on high price predictions in a short time
which some people do really say so.

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July 05, 2022, 03:07:57 AM
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I have to say that the best thing we could do right now would be having a bit of a fun in the crypto world when it is low, so you could be happy when it is higher again. You are right about the scam part though, there are so many people who end up losing their money in scams that they can't really see the reality of how awesome crypto could become.

I have even seen people who lose their money in scams, or in Luna most recently for example and then claim that ALL crypto is a big scam and everyone should stay away from it. Never truly understood why would bitcoin be a scam for example, if you lost money on Luna? Like what is their connection aside from being coins.

It's indeed a good opportunity to buy and go shopping in crypto while it is in low price point. Like what they say, buy low and sell high. Not the other way around so that you may gain profit as time pass by. It's nice to utilize the bearish market while we can. Most especially if someone is into the long term results. While crypto has been beneficial to most of us, some claim it is a nightmare. This is because of the scams and schemes.

During this 21st century, unfortunately, many people still get scammed and fall victim into made up scheme intended to obtain money in an easy way such as promising the victims in getting huge payout in exchange for a certain amount of money. Most of the time, this scheme offer the victims to let them lend money and they'll return it twice or even 10x the amount they lend. So if the victim lends 10,000, the scammer will say he'll grow the money tenfolds and give it after a certain period of time, example after 15 days.

Despite this being too good to be true, some people still believe this shit without even asking someone for advice or even researching just because they were promised a massive amount. I guess awareness could prevent this from happening, but it's still the responsibility of a person to countercheck and think twice before making a decision. Hence, we can prevent the misconception that cryptocurrency being a scam and could do nothing good in someone's life.
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July 05, 2022, 04:34:39 AM
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Yooo my man, you are absolutely right. I saw mostly on youtube that most YouTubers are promoting meme coins. sadly there are 10000+ followers who follow these coins and wasting millions of dollars. But no one can guarantee these coins and these coins will be survive till the bull market. The best example is Luna and UST. Everyone think that Luna will be cross 200$ line when in next bull market. But what happened now  Cheesy
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Yooo my man, you are absolutely right. I saw mostly on youtube that most YouTubers are promoting meme coins. sadly there are 10000+ followers who follow these coins and wasting millions of dollars. But no one can guarantee these coins and these coins will be survive till the bull market. The best example is Luna and UST. Everyone think that Luna will be cross 200$ line when in next bull market. But what happened now  Cheesy
Those youtubers are promoting those coins because they know well those coins can only go up in price based on hype, when it comes to meme coins there is nothing behind the coin and not only that no effort is even made to make it seem as if there will ever be anything behind the coin, so when you have a coin in which their fundamentals indicates it should have no value then another method to give it value should be found, and hyping it to death is the method the developers of such coins have elected to do this.
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July 09, 2022, 01:01:45 AM
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Bearmarket is a good opportunity for anyone from Newbies to Whales to buy, profit opportunities can be easy if we buy when the bearmarket, the important thing after buying is to be patient and hold according to plan, if patiently waiting then we will profit.
That's true and that's why sometimes we see lots of people suggesting to take the opportunity to buy,
also a great time to buy top coins and it's perfect for holding them long term,
the most important thing is to stay patient and wait for the right moment to sell it
I think it is good to take advantage of the beaish market for many things, under which it can be to make purchases in a large way, at this time it is not possible to know with clarity if the market will continue to fall, for this reason we must be warned, if there is another fall in BTC it becomes a unique moment to buy, but if later the price drops a little more it is also an infallible option to buy, it is like buying intelligently managing our available money, of course for me it is much better to buy BTC than some altcoin, because the altocoins the behavior is more focused towards the drop in a brutal way in each dip of BTC.

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July 09, 2022, 01:13:27 AM
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i do agree we need this bear market for a bigger rally in the coming bull run but this bear market is not going to clean bad coins out of the listing. just look at how strong the Shib is and its on the top 20 including the doge which people are calling the first meme joke coin.

the market is just the market and there is a technology behind these tokens that are not going to disappoint the long term holders of these tokens.









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July 09, 2022, 06:31:24 AM
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WHY ITS SO POSITIVE THIS BEARMARKET.  Smiley
Not only you who think so, I have read some news about the bear market this year, everyone thinks it is positive, the factor that has a positive impact is none other than the increase in the price of Bitcoin yesterday which had occupied the $60k level.

From some of the sources I read, many think the crypto market is currently bottom, but elsewhere I see this as just the beginning, not getting to the point yet, For sure every crypto user has their own belief for the current bear market.


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July 09, 2022, 07:29:32 AM
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 If you propose to clean the shitcoins, be ready to do it at every bull market. Because that is when all the shitcoins enters the market and we feel like they are flourishing. But we shouldn't bother much because a period like this (bear market) will always come to do the cleaning.

About cleaning the boys trader who believes in quick fortune in trading, I do  not see that as a problem. It is their individual risk they are taking.  Meanwhile, the stop loss of a thing is a two edged tool. I think the killer edge has hit me more than the saviour edge.

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July 09, 2022, 10:13:23 AM
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From some of the sources I read, many think the crypto market is currently bottom, but elsewhere I see this as just the beginning, not getting to the point yet, For sure every crypto user has their own belief for the current bear market.

This is what I sense too. Let's remember that bear market after 2017's ATH lasted for more than a year and it only started to recover by mid 2020. Bear market has just started so there is a high chance that we will dump more. Despite the recovery from the past few days, I don't think this will continue going up like a market reversal. Since most of us know how this market moves, I'm pretty sure that accumulating as much as possible is the best thing to do.
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This is also what I feel with the current market condition. Self-proclaimed trading expert/gurus aren't active anymore. The hype of play-to-earn is gone and new braindead games have stopped showing so those who invested on hype thinking they could make them a millionaire in short amount of time learned their lesson. PFP NFTs hype is also gone, there are many pfps created during bull season that is made only to milk the investors. People that are still here now in this bear market are the true believers of crypto. They should know that this is the perfect opportunity for them to become a millionaire for the next bull run.

It clearly shows that even those so called gurus did not predict this thing to happen or should I say they did not expect that market could be this so low. I stop my subscription to a trading signal expert in telegram because he is too optimistic, that's why I made my own call and been doing trading until now even though we're experiencing bear market. I still do believe that market will recover sooner or later.

Well, who says they are accurate and reliable. They are just only using their experience in financial field to make whatever they say seems relevant and has a higher chance for their speculations to happen. But the truth is, they are just like us who are also speculating what we think the next market movement base on the past and present data.

Market recovery might take quite a while. Remember the 2018 bear market? It currently has similarities in terms of how Btc gradually fall. Fortunately, those who missed the last bullrun will get another chance to ride this year.

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July 09, 2022, 09:12:04 PM
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i do agree we need this bear market for a bigger rally in the coming bull run but this bear market is not going to clean bad coins out of the listing. just look at how strong the Shib is and its on the top 20 including the doge which people are calling the first meme joke coin.
Indeed. Crypto market needs a bearish season to make a balance. If there is a bullish season, there should be a bearish season. This makes a lot of investors join crypto investment, people know that bearish-bullish gives them a chance to gain significant profits. If there is no bearish-bullish, I doubt we will have many investors. Anyway, this bearish isn't aimed for removing all bad coins or shit coins. They will always exist in crypto world. Meme coins like SHIB and Doge which have no fundamentals are examples that they will stay in crypto market. Even they still can be a part of top crypto coins. So, be careful that there will be always bad coins although we have a bearish season.


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