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June 24, 2022, 09:57:27 PM
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Questions for discussion
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?


Many gamblers do but there's always a risk of using the company's funds to sustain their addiction, that is why they are always suspected when there's an investigation when there is malversation of the funds.

And I don't think they deserve a second chance until they are totally cured of their addiction, they are a bomb waiting to explode and use the company's money so it's better not to entrust the company's position that involves financial position to protect the company and the person also


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June 24, 2022, 11:41:05 PM
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I think it's really hard to trust a gambler with your money, i had access before to some money that belong to my brother and I used it to gamble and get a profit multiple times and of course I lost half of it once and I had to find ways to give the money back, from this experience I find it hard for me to even trust myself with other people's money, so in my opinion, you can't trust a drug addict with drugs and you can't trust a gambler with your money.

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June 24, 2022, 11:57:57 PM
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Its our responsibility to commit the one who is responsible and true enough to handle our savings, assets and etc. Not only gamblers who will be behind money but even a normal human would do so. We can not expect a friend who is addicted to any games to concentrate on the business we do. Its better to recruit the one who is not addicted to any games which will help both.
I think there's a slight problem in the story although the problem there was the business owner was wrong for trusting someone (I presume he doesn't know that it has a problem with gambling when trusting someone with their business) that they don't completely know.

That's why never to trust your money with someone you don't know because you never know what will happen and this is the best example about that. Money will always be the root of all evil.

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June 25, 2022, 12:42:36 AM
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I think most of the gamblers are aware of better financial positions in general: If you have money to bet on, you have a way to make/generate it. It is most likely not wage but any other income options.
Would I personally trust gambler with his/her debt to me? It's complicated. I personally don't trust anyone with money, although prejudice against gamblers is a bit exaggerated. I think good gamblers would be loyal to their debts. And they wouldn't use someone other's money without a profit/reason.
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June 25, 2022, 12:57:59 AM
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Once an employee have encountered such situation it is hard for a second chance. We know that the person is completely normal and have come out of gambling and can be assigned with financial position, but the inner mind resists.

I'm into problem gambling and I wasn't good in handling finance, which means all of the sudden I may use it for gambling hoping for positive outcome. Understanding the same I requested my girl to handle all financial needs of our life. When required I used to ask for funds. I don't know how far this works with other users.
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June 25, 2022, 03:16:04 AM
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I think it's really hard to trust a gambler with your money, i had access before to some money that belong to my brother and I used it to gamble and get a profit multiple times and of course I lost half of it once and I had to find ways to give the money back, from this experience I find it hard for me to even trust myself with other people's money, so in my opinion, you can't trust a drug addict with drugs and you can't trust a gambler with your money.
It depends on the gamblers themselves because if they can stop gambling or at least be responsible for themselves and not use other people's money, we can try to believe it. But it's hard to give trust to people who have wronged us and it takes time. Maybe the person who has wronged us should try to correct himself first before accepting the trust of others. Everyone has the right to get a second chance but it depends on how much intention that person has to change for the better.

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June 25, 2022, 05:45:21 AM
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Gambing addiction is a mental health problem that can be cured with the right assistance. So to answer your second question - yes, gamblers receive a second chance to hold positions in financial departments, but try to implement strict controls and monitor them for a period - let's say a few months. But make sure he received professional help before giving him a second chance.

You are taking a risk by hiring someone with a gambling addiction, though. So logically that person should be someone you care about.
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June 25, 2022, 05:48:34 AM
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Questions for discussion
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?


Many gamblers do but there's always a risk of using the company's funds to sustain their addiction, that is why they are always suspected when there's an investigation when there is malversation of the funds.

And I don't think they deserve a second chance until they are totally cured of their addiction, they are a bomb waiting to explode and use the company's money so it's better not to entrust the company's position that involves financial position to protect the company and the person also
someone who is very brave to use company money to gamble is someone who doesn't think long and is certainly not afraid of punishment so don't ever give people like that a second chance. I have a cousin who has been imprisoned 3 times for theft and embezzlement of his company's money but the prison didn't stop his bad behavior, such a trait has entered his mind and soul too.

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June 25, 2022, 06:33:21 AM
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Questions for discussion
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?


Yes of course gamblers are eligible to hold financial positions. What is wrong with the world these days, the stigma that all gamblers are unable to control finances is wrong. A good gambler is actually better at managing money and keeping emotions out of finances than a person who isn't gambling. When gambling in a casino we need to look at risk and reward very quickly and adjust our betting based on our bankroll. It seems that many people have a bias against gamblers without really knowing more about it. It's not like every gambler is going lose all the money he has and becomes a thief.
What do you mean with second chance? Just because by gambling we already lost our first chance to hold any financial positions? That is so wrong in my opinion. Sure there are some people who are struggling with gambling addiction and have trouble controlling their finances. But that is only a small group out of all gamblers and not the majority. It's like looking at someone who drinks a beer as if they are alcoholics. Or looking at someone who is smoking as if he is addicted to smoking and can't control himself. If someone steals money from his work it might be because he is a thief and not a gambler in the first place. Many of the big scam scandals are from people who are not gamblers. I don't think there is a correlation between gamblers stealing more money from work than other people.
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June 25, 2022, 06:53:20 AM
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True life Story.
A friend i know recently narrated to me how his business almost collapsed due to trust he had for another of his friends who he thought he was helping by recruiting him to manage one of his Retail outlets. He narrated how having put him in charge of that point started observing a decrease in the the profit from there intended for savings and reinvestment. He confronted him severally to know what the problem was, but his friend attributed it to being ill and needing drugs, until one faithful day when he ran into him in a betting shop during working hours betting on virtual football games, how disappointing!

Questions for discussion
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?



we can't justify every gambler can't be trusted, however this depends on his attitude and integrity to his job even though of course the temptation is very big because he is in control of the financial (company) addiction is difficult to avoid as well as those of us who like to play gambling, online  or land.  but he deserves to be given a second chance to be responsible for any harm that has been caused and fix his addiction problem

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He confronted him severally to know what the problem was, but his friend attributed it to being ill and needing drugs, until one faithful day when he ran into him in a betting shop during working hours betting on virtual football games, how disappointing!

So what was the owners of the business doing in the betting shop, they both need help as he too would had gamble away that money if it was in his possession since he's also a gambler. Gambling has a spirit, you always believe yourself of winning until you lose your funds therefore addicts shoudn't be put a position they'll have access to business funds or they'll run the business down just as you have narrated.

They only deserve a second chance if you notice they're engaging in therapy or making efforts to quit. A gambler who doesn't show any concerns about his addiction shoudn't be given access to a company finance or you regret bankrupting that business.

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June 25, 2022, 07:02:00 AM
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- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?
I don't trust gambler with any financial matter because more often than not they will just think on how to bet on things. This is a fact and gamblers tend to not good at it.

No. I will give my best to find a financial assistant rather risk it on problem gamblers even if they say they've already not doing their habits anymore.
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June 25, 2022, 07:21:32 AM
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True life Story.
A friend i know recently narrated to me how his business almost collapsed due to trust he had for another of his friends
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 until one faithful day when he ran into him in a betting shop during working hours betting on virtual football games, how disappointing!

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- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?

I think you have answered yourself with that story.

If it's a problem gambler, no. Just like if he's addicted to crack cocaine.

However, if he is someone who gambles very occasionally in amounts he can afford, then there would be no problem.

The problem is not so much gambling as compulsive behaviour and poor self-control. The same would be true of someone addicted to intraday trading who keeps losing and can't stop. You couldn't trust them with money. But someone who buys shares with money he can afford to lose and makes the occasional trade, you could trust him.

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June 25, 2022, 07:51:07 AM
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Gamblers are good with money, counting, computing, analyzing, or solving problems but it could lead to a few problems when you let them handle money physically.
As long as they could control their gambling habits and it won't affect their performance being an employee of one business then I think it is not an issue.
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June 25, 2022, 08:03:06 AM
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Once an employee have encountered such situation it is hard for a second chance. We know that the person is completely normal and have come out of gambling and can be assigned with financial position, but the inner mind resists.

I'm into problem gambling and I wasn't good in handling finance, which means all of the sudden I may use it for gambling hoping for positive outcome. Understanding the same I requested my girl to handle all financial needs of our life. When required I used to ask for funds. I don't know how far this works with other users.

That’s pretty sad. Letting your girl do the finances. Sad I’ve seen families like this before though. The boi gives his income to his girl and and the girl decides the bois monthly allowance :d now I understand the logic behind this. It is because the boi is irresponsible with the money and the girl needs to be the captain of the ship:(

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June 25, 2022, 08:26:49 AM
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Once an employee have encountered such situation it is hard for a second chance. We know that the person is completely normal and have come out of gambling and can be assigned with financial position, but the inner mind resists.

I'm into problem gambling and I wasn't good in handling finance, which means all of the sudden I may use it for gambling hoping for positive outcome. Understanding the same I requested my girl to handle all financial needs of our life. When required I used to ask for funds. I don't know how far this works with other users.

It can work as a strategy to not be in the temptation of managing your funds knowing that you like gambling,you like a lot gambling.In any given time it depends what your mind thinks,you maybe in a good situation and positive and you think let's try to gamble a little bit as everything is looking good for me so I will have luck this time and win big.It is exactly here that you ruin yourself with this thinking so I think you have made a really wise choice to let your partner in life to manage your finances which has nothing to do with gambling at all.

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June 25, 2022, 08:44:12 AM
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Once an employee have encountered such situation it is hard for a second chance. We know that the person is completely normal and have come out of gambling and can be assigned with financial position, but the inner mind resists.

I'm into problem gambling and I wasn't good in handling finance, which means all of the sudden I may use it for gambling hoping for positive outcome. Understanding the same I requested my girl to handle all financial needs of our life. When required I used to ask for funds. I don't know how far this works with other users.

That’s pretty sad. Letting your girl do the finances. Sad I’ve seen families like this before though. The boi gives his income to his girl and and the girl decides the bois monthly allowance :d now I understand the logic behind this. It is because the boi is irresponsible with the money and the girl needs to be the captain of the ship:(

I don't think that's sad. That’s actually the case many times where the breadwinner has a job and his wife (or girlfriend) doesn't. So he makes money, and the income supports the family, and wife takes care of everything in the house and children. Men very often "take a backseat" in this arrangement and like to have someone make decisions for them. So it can be a win/win. That's not sad. That's actually the case with many married couples and life partners.

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June 25, 2022, 08:59:36 AM
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Once an employee have encountered such situation it is hard for a second chance. We know that the person is completely normal and have come out of gambling and can be assigned with financial position, but the inner mind resists.

I'm into problem gambling and I wasn't good in handling finance, which means all of the sudden I may use it for gambling hoping for positive outcome. Understanding the same I requested my girl to handle all financial needs of our life. When required I used to ask for funds. I don't know how far this works with other users.

That’s pretty sad. Letting your girl do the finances. Sad I’ve seen families like this before though. The boi gives his income to his girl and and the girl decides the bois monthly allowance :d now I understand the logic behind this. It is because the boi is irresponsible with the money and the girl needs to be the captain of the ship:(

My family is like that, I give all my money to my wife and she is taking care of the finance in the house, savings, bills, and all that... after all she is a bachelor of economics, why would I bother with those things when I am sure she can do it better and she is definitely more responsible! I don't think there should be captains in marriage, it's a boat with two people (later with additional passengers) and so many things needs to be done, so if you wish your marriage to last it's a thing of compromise and logical thinking, who is good at something should focus on that!

There are responsible gamblers who will never spend more than they can afford to lose, they can work in the finance sector... but gamblers who had problems cause they spend too much money will get into the same problem sooner or later, probably with the first opportunity! I would never trust a problematic gambler in general, especially when it comes to money!

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June 25, 2022, 09:17:29 AM
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Questions for discussion
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
- Will it be wrong to trust a problem gamblers with money?

Gambler will always be a gambler, if there’s a greed and other opportunity then most probably they will grab it. Gambler can still be trusted as long as you make them liable and trusting your friend is a big thing, its not easy but its possible.

Gambler should be more responsible especially on handling others money, if you don’t trust them then why give money to them in the first place? You should know the possible risk of this.
In one sence, gambling is a form of addiction. Many gamblers I see can't control themselves. Especially they can't handle greed. They became desperate to manage gambling money. So it is not at all safe to keep them in a place directly related to money.

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June 25, 2022, 09:25:02 AM
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I think it's really hard to trust a gambler with your money, i had access before to some money that belong to my brother and I used it to gamble and get a profit multiple times and of course I lost half of it once and I had to find ways to give the money back, from this experience I find it hard for me to even trust myself with other people's money, so in my opinion, you can't trust a drug addict with drugs and you can't trust a gambler with your money.
It depends on the gamblers themselves because if they can stop gambling or at least be responsible for themselves and not use other people's money, we can try to believe it. But it's hard to give trust to people who have wronged us and it takes time. Maybe the person who has wronged us should try to correct himself first before accepting the trust of others. Everyone has the right to get a second chance but it depends on how much intention that person has to change for the better.

All gamblers are not equal, we cannot judge all gamblers are bad and do not deserve to be given the opportunity to manage money.
I think it's just an addicted gambler, which we absolutely shouldn't give any chance to manage money. I agree with you, a person who
can be responsible for himself, can always control himself when gambling. To be honest, I have a friend who always gambles whenever
he has free time, but his finances remained stable and did not lack money to meet daily needs. This means that my friend is a responsible
gambler, he can limit the money to gamble. Usually based on the results of my research, most responsible gamblers always know when it is
time to stop gambling and are not obsessed with winning. So responsible gamblers deserve to be given the opportunity to control other
people's money.

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