Self Exclusion on a National Basis, Australia 🦘

[fiulpro]

Australia have just announced a plan where the players would be able to exclude themselves temporarily or permanently from all the gambling platforms in the country. Which I do think is really amazing since it can help control the problem gambling in the country they already have loads of complains as well.

https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16954/new-self-exclusion-register-to-launch-in-australia

What do you think about the news ?
Should it include other platforms as well since most of the players know that there are casinos which uses VPN and they would still be able to access it there. But I overall like the idea to control the whole Gambling addiction.

Thoughts?

[carlfebz2]

What do you think about the news ?
Should it include other platforms as well since most of the players know that there are casinos which uses VPN and they would still be able to access it there. But I overall like the idea to control the whole Gambling addiction.

Thoughts?

This one could really be applied effectively on physical casinos/gambling places but not totally on online casinos which people could always have the access if they wanted to thats why its not totally that effective

but at least the government do really shows up some action on fighting or being that in concern about gambling addiction which is something that you cant really see that government do take out some
action in regarding on this manner.It might not really be that efficient or fully effective in terms of stopping addiction but at least this is a good initiative.

Exclusions are options if someone do really want to take some break but the best thing or weapon to have on fighting addiction is on how you would gonna control yourself.

[ryzaadit]

To be honest is only depends on the casino it self.

Since, people in here are playing more often in "Online-casino" and only a few casino have a feature with "self-Exclusion". Another things problem, online gambling activity are really hard to "self-exclusion" because the person still can coming back by un-blocking the site, register with new account or playing in other site.

IMO, still hard.

[Fortify]

Australia have just announced a plan where the players would be able to exclude themselves temporarily or permanently from all the gambling platforms in the country. Which I do think is really amazing since it can help control the problem gambling in the country they already have loads of complains as well.

https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16954/new-self-exclusion-register-to-launch-in-australia

What do you think about the news ?
Should it include other platforms as well since most of the players know that there are casinos which uses VPN and they would still be able to access it there. But I overall like the idea to control the whole Gambling addiction.

Thoughts?

It's good news really, effective self exclusion - like allowing a player to block themselves from a site for 6 months, 1 year or even 5 years should be required for every single gambling site that wants to be responsible. They make plenty enough money as it is and there should be no way to reverse the block until the time runs out. Effective enforcement is required but VPN's do allow a way around it. More countries should act like America in that respect, stating that any gaming operators targeting Australian citizens better comply otherwise they will be prosecuted if they step foot on Australian territory and it has the advantage that it is a desirable place to visit. If every country had this sort of setup then the problem side of gambling would gradually reduce.

[Rruchi man]

What do you think about the news ?

You know how some casino's are very aggressive in their marketing and don't care about if a user is trying to quit or not, this will put them in check. This development will be most beneficial to individuals who truly want to quit gambling due to personal reasons.

 Some people know they really need help and are well aware that they are not disciplined enough or can't help themselves effectively unless being assisted, this program by the government can solve that challenge and be of assistance to them. I like the method indicated by the government on how they intend to be of assistance by going after casinos that try to lure back users who are trying to quit by sending mails offering bonuses to individuals who voluntarily included themselves in the self exclusion list. This will make casinos direct their effort to people who have not opted for self exclusion and let those who have opted for it leave in peace.

[LTU_btc]

Self exclusion, is it something new? I think that such thing in my country exists for 10 years maybe. It's good thing, but first of all you should understand yourself that you have gambling addiction and it's big problem. Without it, nothing won't help. Same like with other addictions.
But at the same time such register have weak points - it's so easy to bypass it. It only works with casinos registered in that country (Australia in this case). So, you can simply use foreign casinos without any issues. Or crypto casinos, obviously.

[Slow death]

when a person is dominated by addiction that person even if he deletes all casino accounts he has, after a few days he will look for other casinos and will create accounts, even if he has to use VPN that person will do it... that's why I think As good as this australian government measure is, it won't be very effective if gambling addicts don't seek medical treatment and relatives don't help so they don't keep giving the addict money. Last month if memory doesn't betray me there was a case of someone here on the forum who was addicted and deleted his account in one of the casinos and then accidentally the casino sent him an email with some promotion and the addicted guy came to complain, maybe this measure of the australia government will be useful in these cases

[Dave1]

Australia have just announced a plan where the players would be able to exclude themselves temporarily or permanently from all the gambling platforms in the country. Which I do think is really amazing since it can help control the problem gambling in the country they already have loads of complains as well.

https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16954/new-self-exclusion-register-to-launch-in-australia

What do you think about the news ?
Should it include other platforms as well since most of the players know that there are casinos which uses VPN and they would still be able to access it there. But I overall like the idea to control the whole Gambling addiction.

Thoughts?

Do we have the data that support this? I mean does it really stop gambling or minimized the effects and stop addicted gamblers from playing?

The reason I ask is because I don't think it will be effective as it's going to be hard to implement. And then the responsibility, it will be a 3 way party, the gamblers themselves, the gambling casino, and then the regulators or the government. If just one of them didn't participate then this program will be a complete failure, in my opinion.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Australia have just announced a plan where the players would be able to exclude themselves temporarily or permanently from all the gambling platforms in the country.
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Thoughts?

I didn't know they were so far behind on the issue. In other countries there has been a national database for many years, so if you exclude yourself, you are not allowed to enter any casino in the country.

This serves to some extent but the gambler can always find a way to gamble again. For example in a cryptocurrency casino without KYC.

In the end, those who have problems with gambling have to develop self-control not to gamble or even seek psychological help because all these responsible gambling features, even if they help a little, are not the solution to the problem.

[ipanks]

Frankly, I also like the idea but it will go back to individual gamblers because there will be gamblers who will come back to online casinos easily and we know they can create new accounts that are not linked to their other accounts. It takes awareness from gamblers to exclude themselves from gambling; if they don't really want it, they will return for more. But the idea can help gamblers who want to reduce their time playing gambling and with the program, they can start giving it a try.

[swogerino]

This feature is really good but for most of the people who gamble with cryptocurrency will not solve anything,they can go to casinos outside the jurisdiction of Australia,register there anonymously and continue to play if they get bored and don't want anymore the self exclusion option.This option though works well to exclude residents of Australia from any fiat casino that operates online in all the Australian territory,it is a good move but it does not solve the gambling problem per se,no one has been able to solve gambling problems and addictions with self exclusion.

The only target group this would be effective is 50-60 year old gamblers who only play in local casinos and are not that tech iterate for playing online,if they use the self exclusion option that is pretty much for them,end of the game.

[Coin_trader]

This will only work on players that using fiat based casino because it has a mandatory KYC which will be used to identify whether the user self excluded or not but this regulation is useless to non-crypto online casino because there’s no way for them to verify if there player sign the self exclusion or not. I don’t have any idea about the crypto casino status on Australia but this regulation can be easily bypass by addicted gamblers that sign exclusion by seeking alternative crypto casino online which I highly doubt that Australia government can regulate even by there license requirements.

[Darker45]

I've always been a fan of self-exclusion. It may not really be a solution to gambling addiction but at least those who feel that they're already doing it too much have an option.

As a matter of fact, in addition to self exclusion, all countries should also implement policies which grant requests from family members that a gambler from their family be banned from casinos. After all, it is really hard to rely on addicted gamblers to voluntarily exclude themselves from casinos.

[dothebeats]

IMO Australia should extend this program on platforms overseas. In this way we can be sure that the gamblers turning themselves in on the self-exclusion program would have no other way but to really keep their gambling addiction to themselves, and be forced to look for a new hobby that doesn't include gambling. I believe the Australian government can do this, and hopefully a collaboration between nations to keep a list of people in self-exclusion program can be made available and be kept safely to curb gambling addiction across the world.

[bitbollo]

Australia have just announced a plan where the players would be able to exclude themselves temporarily or permanently from all the gambling platforms in the country. Which I do think is really amazing since it can help control the problem gambling in the country they already have loads of complains as well.

https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16954/new-self-exclusion-register-to-launch-in-australia

What do you think about the news ?
Should it include other platforms as well since most of the players know that there are casinos which uses VPN and they would still be able to access it there. But I overall like the idea to control the whole Gambling addiction.

Thoughts?

This is a nice idea and probably it will become a kind of international standard (at least in western countries).
Unfortunately a very addicted gambler will find every time a way to escape from such rule (likewise playing with other user account or just ask to a friend to place a bet for him). but this is a first step to really fight addiction in gambling.

Of course crypto-gambling sites are excluded from this law... and we know it's very easy bet with crypto .
I just hope this is will not become a "trojan horse" to force KYC even in this field!

[fiulpro]

People should also remember that, once you complete the form you won't be able to go back, reverse it or go to any casino which is registered in the particular country, there are countries like US, Canada which have strong set of rules. But what can work best would be ofcourse an international self Exclusion that would combine all the countries as well . I will try and include the countries who have self Exclusion available so that people would know who to turn to:
US
UK
Canada
Australia
South Africa
Other than that you can easily use things like GamStop for the online Gambling addiction which can be accessed from anywhere in the world. Overall it would be an effective process if done properly.
You can also read more on the wiki :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-exclusion

[serjent05]

Australia have just announced a plan where the players would be able to exclude themselves temporarily or permanently from all the gambling platforms in the country. Which I do think is really amazing since it can help control the problem gambling in the country they already have loads of complains as well.

https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16954/new-self-exclusion-register-to-launch-in-australia

What do you think about the news ?

It is a great thing to have a nation that supports a nationwide self-exclusion but I think it is still limited and can easily bypass using VPN if the person in self-exclusion intended to gamble abroad.

Should it include other platforms as well since most of the players know that there are casinos which uses VPN and they would still be able to access it there. But I overall like the idea to control the whole Gambling addiction.

Well, it should be but I think it will be very difficult because globalization needs to meet each country's standard and every country has a different take when it comes to gambling.

Thoughts?

Self-exclusion can only be effective if the person themselves admits that they are a gambling addict.  this is the biggest challenge of self-exclusion.  Aside from that, a gambler should be able to identify what a gambling addict is.  If he can't he cannot admit that he has a gambling disorder so I think a nationwide campaign of gambling disorder awareness should be launched together with the self-exclusion plan.

[avikz]

What do you think about the news ?
Should it include other platforms as well since most of the players know that there are casinos which uses VPN and they would still be able to access it there. But I overall like the idea to control the whole Gambling addiction.

Thoughts?

Self exclusion is an utter rubbish! Gambling becomes problem gambling only when the gambler is unable to control his gambling habit as he/she lacks the willingness to control the habit. So if someone is lacking the willingness, will he/she self exclude from gambling platforms? Unless their family members are forcing them to self exclude, they wouldn't do it willingly.

Also crypto gambling is global in nature and isn't governed by country specific regulations. So even after the self exclusion, problem gamblers can head towards crypto gambling.

Problem gambling needs medical attention and psychological support. Nothing else can help!

[darkangel11]

The idea is good but what does exclusion mean in the technical sense? It blocks your account, right? Worst case scenario also your IP. So a gambler who loses in touch of enlightenment decides to end with betting and bans himself. A few days later he wants to gamble, comes back, see the account is banned, goes elsewhere, to another casino where his account is still active, or makes a new account.

[Davidvictorson]

This one could really be applied effectively on physical casinos/gambling places but not totally on online casinos which people could always have the access if they wanted to thats why its not totally that effective

but at least the government do really shows up some action on fighting or being that in concern about gambling addiction which is something that you cant really see that government do take out some
action in regarding on this manner.

While this is a fantastic news, my concern has been somewhat echoed by other users here. Self-exclusion will work 99.99% okay for online casinos but I doubt if I can say the same for land based casinos. As a matter of fact, it was in the news some weeks ago that the Dutch Gambling Authority was going to investigating some gambling operators for failure to check and prevent players who registered on the Cruks self-exclusion scheme from gaining access control in slot machine arcades¹. I bet we might see some occurrence of this situation in Australia. I hope they can find a way to nip it in the bud before it ever happens.

1. https://casinobeats.com/2022/06/17/ksa-initiates-slot-arcades-investigation-as-role-model-ad-ban-looms/