newest risers

[poby]

For years I have been using 24 x ver008c risers without issues - never had one go bad.  But there's been numerous new versions come out since then and the latest seems to be the ver016 which has two LED displays (voltage and temperature).  It also has 10 capacitors!  I've ordered some to try out but I'm a bit skeptical that 10 capacitors will make any difference whatsoever compared to 4 capacitors.  If anything, there's more chance of failure considering a single shorted capacitor can kill the board.  Sounds like a marketing gimmick like those 10 bladed razors.  More isn't necessarily better.

I also wonder if having a metal shielded slot makes a difference.  Has anyone found improved stability with the newer risers?  Like ver010 and up?

[JayDDee]

Sorry I have no hands-on experience with the new ones but it's hard to say if they're better. If the old ones didn't have
any problems how can the new ones be more stable?

New GPUs have more power volatility so the extra caps might be useful, they're also quite heavy
so the extra support for the slot may also be useful. I hate that everything has LEDs now.

I certainly wouldn't pay more for them. I'd also be concerned about any new model untill it has been proven.

[philipma1957]

op do you have a link

[arielbit]

Metal shield would help depends on how you mount the gpu, if you let the riser (screwed) carry the gpu then it might help.

Voltage might be good, when there are minor burns in wire the gpu can't pull more power and less hashes (if the system didn't hang)..i think, amps is a lot better indicator than voltage.

If caps backs each other, like if 6 out of 10 is working and 4 are bad, the riser still works, then more is better. I think it acts as electrical noise filters.

Led lights should indicate something like gpu is unplugged/loose, riser is powered off (12v power not connected), and usb cable not connected.

Makes troubleshooting a lot easier.

I got an old motherboard i'm stil using circa 2007 or 2008. There are four led lights, if they lit all green then i knew checking on the rig is by remote login, if not then i might need to plug the monitor to check what's up.

[poby]

op do you have a link

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263195778.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.7d6c18028WYfAM

If caps backs each other, like if 6 out of 10 is working and 4 are bad, the riser still works, then more is better. I think it acts as electrical noise filters.

The caps are there to smooth the voltage and are generally connected directly across the 12 volt line to ground.  If a cap goes bad, it's not uncommon for it to short which would be disastrous, though a modern power supply might shutdown fast enough to avoid serious damage.

I'm not really keen on all this LED bling and wonder how many extra watts it will consume but the voltage and temperature displays might be useful.  They are pretty cheap so I'm going to test them out and if I find out anything remarkable will update this thread.

[Pendrak]

A cap from the 12volt rail got burn from a x10 version (6 caps) and nothing happen, the pc just dont recognice the video carrd, thats all. also more caps on the 3.3v give more stablity with the new video cards.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ghYjfGd0jQ

[arielbit]

op do you have a link

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004263195778.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.7d6c18028WYfAM

If caps backs each other, like if 6 out of 10 is working and 4 are bad, the riser still works, then more is better. I think it acts as electrical noise filters.

The caps are there to smooth the voltage and are generally connected directly across the 12 volt line to ground.  If a cap goes bad, it's not uncommon for it to short which would be disastrous, though a modern power supply might shutdown fast enough to avoid serious damage.

I'm not really keen on all this LED bling and wonder how many extra watts it will consume but the voltage and temperature displays might be useful.  They are pretty cheap so I'm going to test them out and if I find out anything remarkable will update this thread.

In my mining since 2013, there was not 1 riser that killed a gpu, the soldering underneath the risers are getting better BTW.

Didn't check what temp display measures (sensor is located), all i care is the temp in the gpu. Temp in the mining room (specific spot, where rig/gpu is located), it will be useful if you are reaching max allowable temp in your mining room.

my problem with that v016 is that it reduced the power connection (sockets), yeah a pcie socket is sturdy enough for the power supply of that riser, extra sockets are useful for me.

[S3300]

Risers don't burn or kill graphic cards Oh! Unless you turn the riser the negative way lol I've done this before and it killed my 1660 Ti brand new, till this day I still can't fix the graphic card, I've used 006 007 008 risers and they work very well.

[swogerino]

These risers look a lot like the 010,010S version and may be they are just renaming this to version 016.For me though risers are a thing of the past,since quite some months now I have been using only riserless motherboards with H510 Pro BTC+ of Asrock being my all time favorite,as for this riser with metal shielded will only have better recognition of the GPU,and is also resembling the PCIEx 4.0 standard more than anything else.In theory these are the most stable risers out there,am talking about 010 which I personally owned a couple of them but I think 016 are the same as I don't see any difference from the picture provided here. 

[a1 Hashrate LLC2022]

Risers don't burn or kill graphic cards Oh! Unless you turn the riser the negative way lol I've done this before and it killed my 1660 Ti brand new, till this day I still can't fix the graphic card, I've used 006 007 008 risers and they work very well.

yep but it still hashed just no video output.

[FP91G]

I've bought a lot of $2-$3 raisers from series 3 to 7. This raiser is worth $10. My raisers have 3-4 capacitors, and in 5 years of mining I had no problems. This is a big overpayment for the raiser, I would choose cheaper raisers even for powerful video cards like 3090.

[Outhue]

I've bought a lot of $2-$3 raisers from series 3 to 7. This raiser is worth $10. My raisers have 3-4 capacitors, and in 5 years of mining I had no problems. This is a big overpayment for the raiser, I would choose cheaper raisers even for powerful video cards like 3090.

I remember buy a riser for 10$ each in my country, this is a country where every single thing is overpriced, even food, sigh! I have to order for all my mining equipment and electronics with home appliances from another country, everything just sucks in my country.

[FP91G]

I've bought a lot of $2-$3 raisers from series 3 to 7. This raiser is worth $10. My raisers have 3-4 capacitors, and in 5 years of mining I had no problems. This is a big overpayment for the raiser, I would choose cheaper raisers even for powerful video cards like 3090.

I remember buy a riser for 10$ each in my country, this is a country where every single thing is overpriced, even food, sigh! I have to order for all my mining equipment and electronics with home appliances from another country, everything just sucks in my country.

During the mining hype, even the cheapest raisers cost $10 each, on Ali Express for $5-6. Does aliexpress work in your country? I once ordered a large batch and still use these raisers.Sometimes I managed to sell it more expensive, and then order new ones.

[adaseb]

It’s crazy how advanced the risers have become now a days. Most of you guys don’t know but back in pre 2016 days, there were no USB risers. They actually came into the market in early 2014 when crypto crashed and nobody used them until late 2015 early 2016 to mine ETH

In pre 2014 we all used ribbon risers. Basically that IDE cable looking thing which basically extended the riser from the motherboard. I actually still used some up till 2018 or so.

[arielbit]

It’s crazy how advanced the risers have become now a days. Most of you guys don’t know but back in pre 2016 days, there were no USB risers. They actually came into the market in early 2014 when crypto crashed and nobody used them until late 2015 early 2016 to mine ETH

In pre 2014 we all used ribbon risers. Basically that IDE cable looking thing which basically extended the riser from the motherboard. I actually still used some up till 2018 or so.

 

this is the new stuff now...never tried it but the reviews says it is better than x1 and x16 risers, 3 feet length and thin wires, you can go creative on your setup with this.

that solder holes at the back of molex socket is very useful when that molex connector burned, i just solder wires in those holes. that's why up thread i said those extra power sockets are very useful for me.

[FP91G]

this is the new stuff now...never tried it but the reviews says it is better than x1 and x16 risers, 3 feet length and thin wires, you can go creative on your setup with this.

I have these raisers and they are very good. Even the quality of the soldering in the photo of the field effect transistor will not affect its operation. I tried to buy with thick cables, but thin cables also work fine, although they look unreliable.

[adaseb]

Yeah they were introduced at the end of the 2014 bull run pretty much. At that time I saw them and they looked interesting but didn’t want to upgrade my entire farm since every month my profits were halved from mining.

When ETH was profitable I started to use them for the first time. They are nice because you can separate the GPU further and keep from running hot. With ribbon risers it was tough, especially with 6 GPUs in a setup.

[Nighthog]

You guys should look at the new M.2 PCIE 4x USB adapters.

M.2 -> 4x PCIEx1 with usb cables. You can stop using those PCIE X1 things and connect to M.2 slots with USB directly. No mishaps or mistakes any more.

Not bought one myself but looking to try them out if they have better availability. Not seen too many sellers but some in China that take their time to ship.

Here a example:

BEYIMEI M.2 NVME to 4 Ports PCI-E 1X USB 3.0 Riser Card, M.2 B-Key PCI-E Interface for Bitcoin Miner Ethereum Mining
https://www.amazon.com/BEYIMEI-M-2-Interface-Bitcoin-Ethereum/dp/B09YHDPSC8/

[FP91G]

You guys should look at the new M.2 PCIE 4x USB adapters.

M.2 -> 4x PCIEx1 with usb cables. You can stop using those PCIE X1 things and connect to M.2 slots with USB directly. No mishaps or mistakes any more.

Not bought one myself but looking to try them out if they have better availability. Not seen too many sellers but some in China that take their time to ship.

Here a example:

BEYIMEI M.2 NVME to 4 Ports PCI-E 1X USB 3.0 Riser Card, M.2 B-Key PCI-E Interface for Bitcoin Miner Ethereum Mining
https://www.amazon.com/BEYIMEI-M-2-Interface-Bitcoin-Ethereum/dp/B09YHDPSC8/

https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005003911721041.html?
For $50 you can buy a motherboard for 8 video cards, a processor and a cooling system for the processor, and your device costs $30. Goods from China can take 45 days, but if you order in advance, then this is a good and proven motherboard.

[Za1n]

Yeah, those new risers definitely look better in quality (both in components and soldering) than some of the older ones.

Assuming those capacitors are in parallel, each one would share a portion of the current, thus making it easier on each individual capacitor. By the grouping it would appear they are in three banks, protecting three different sections of the circuit board, but without actually looking at one its hard to tell from just the picture. Assuming the the capacitor quality is equal or better than previous generations of these risers, I would think it would be a more reliable design and thus reduce the chance of shorting.

I also have never lost a GPU due to a riser going bad. I have had my share of bad risers, but never one causing any direct harm to the attached GPU or MB. In any case, the better quality on these new risers is much appreciated to help protect the newer more expensive GPUs.