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July 21, 2023, 04:51:37 PM
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Nakamura displayed an aggressive style in the majority of his games during this tournament. I believe this was one of the key factors that enabled him to reach the top and secure the championship. Conversely, Carlsen experienced some struggles with a few bad games and even had drawn matches that he could have won. Although it wasn't a particularly good run for him, I have faith that he will bounce back stronger in the future.

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July 27, 2023, 04:06:17 AM
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After yesterday's defeat by Caruana, Nepomniachtchi is 1.5 points ahead and now it is almost guaranteed to win the tournament - there has never been a case in the history of chess when the leader did not win the Candidates Tournament with a 1.5 point advantage. Quotes bookmakers, by the way, are very generous:

Win in tournament Yes No

Nepomniachtchi Jan 1.22 3.80
Nakamura X 4.70 1.15
Ding Liren 10.00 1.03
Caruana F 10.00 1.03

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July 27, 2023, 06:54:00 PM
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After yesterday's defeat by Caruana, Nepomniachtchi is 1.5 points ahead and now it is almost guaranteed to win the tournament - there has never been a case in the history of chess when the leader did not win the Candidates Tournament with a 1.5 point advantage. Quotes bookmakers, by the way, are very generous:

Win in tournament Yes No

Nepomniachtchi Jan 1.22 3.80
Nakamura X 4.70 1.15
Ding Liren 10.00 1.03
Caruana F 10.00 1.03

What website do you guys use to place bets (with BTC) on chess game/tournament results?

Given that the OP has been inactive for some time, I will answer for him. I'm interested in chess, but it's almost impossible to find an acceptable option to bet on it (especially with the use of cryptocurrencies). Personally, I look at the odds (for the sake of evaluating chanses of players) at local fiat bookmakers (most of which are scammers lol).

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August 14, 2023, 09:17:18 AM
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What are your thoughts on the recent matches on the FIDE World Chess Cup 2023?

I watched the game between Ivanchuk vs Magnus and Magnus won with a score of 2-0 against the legend himself.

During their first game, Magnus was able to grind down the game during the middle game leaving that e6 pawn too strong for Vasyl to hold. On their second game yesterday, Magnus, with the black pieces, managed to get a drawing position (which he believed that he could grind it for a win) which prompted Vasyl to resign.

Fabi was also able to win against Duda and the former mentioned in an interview that the lines he played was inspired from his preparation against Magnus since their match on the 2018 WCC.

Who do you think will win for this year's FIDE World Chess Cup 2023?

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August 19, 2023, 01:34:32 PM
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What are your thoughts on the recent matches on the FIDE World Chess Cup 2023?

I watched the game between Ivanchuk vs Magnus and Magnus won with a score of 2-0 against the legend himself.

During their first game, Magnus was able to grind down the game during the middle game leaving that e6 pawn too strong for Vasyl to hold. On their second game yesterday, Magnus, with the black pieces, managed to get a drawing position (which he believed that he could grind it for a win) which prompted Vasyl to resign.

Fabi was also able to win against Duda and the former mentioned in an interview that the lines he played was inspired from his preparation against Magnus since their match on the 2018 WCC.

Who do you think will win for this year's FIDE World Chess Cup 2023?

A victory over Ivanchuk was expected since Ivanchuk has already left big chess and plays for pleasure, but he was once considered a real competitor to Kasparov and a contender for the crown.
I don't think that Abasov will be a problem for Carlsen, I'm more interested in the second pair - I hope Pragnanadhi wins. Caruana is also a player of the past, I want to see how the new generation replaces the previous one.

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August 19, 2023, 03:57:21 PM
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A victory over Ivanchuk was expected since Ivanchuk has already left big chess and plays for pleasure, but he was once considered a real competitor to Kasparov and a contender for the crown.

I do not think that the victory against Ivanchuk is not expected. Imagine, he has been playing competitively at his age and he also defeated some super GMs in some tournaments. While he is definitely not in his prime, saying that a victory against him was "expected" somehow invalidates his chess prowess.

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I don't think that Abasov will be a problem for Carlsen, I'm more interested in the second pair - I hope Pragnanadhi wins. Caruana is also a player of the past, I want to see how the new generation replaces the previous one.

Actually, the game between Abasov and Carlsen just ended a few minutes ago and Carlsen was able to snatch a victory! It was a tough game but Abasov blundered a pawn in which his position became worse at the end.

It is true- the game between Fabi vs Prag is definitely interesting given that Prag is now a qualifier for the next candidates! He is now the 3rd youngest player to even participate in the candidates, with Boby Fischer and Magnus being 1st and 2nd respectively.



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August 19, 2023, 08:57:46 PM
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What are your thoughts on the recent matches on the FIDE World Chess Cup 2023?

I watched the game between Ivanchuk vs Magnus and Magnus won with a score of 2-0 against the legend himself.

During their first game, Magnus was able to grind down the game during the middle game leaving that e6 pawn too strong for Vasyl to hold. On their second game yesterday, Magnus, with the black pieces, managed to get a drawing position (which he believed that he could grind it for a win) which prompted Vasyl to resign.

Fabi was also able to win against Duda and the former mentioned in an interview that the lines he played was inspired from his preparation against Magnus since their match on the 2018 WCC.

Who do you think will win for this year's FIDE World Chess Cup 2023?

A victory over Ivanchuk was expected since Ivanchuk has already left big chess and plays for pleasure, but he was once considered a real competitor to Kasparov and a contender for the crown.
I don't think that Abasov will be a problem for Carlsen, I'm more interested in the second pair - I hope Pragnanadhi wins. Caruana is also a player of the past, I want to see how the new generation replaces the previous one.
casua or not Ivanchuk is a great player that has been paired with multiple legends like Carlsen and Kasparov. For him to fall in grace and end the tourmament on a pretty low note is nothing to be expected. I’m not saying he should’ve wom the whole event or whatnot. Just hoping he would’ve given us a better performance than what he was able to put out in tve tournament. He’s a capable player, it’s not like he stopped playing chess although I do understand the gap between casual and competitive chess is extremely high.

Hoping that he’d put out better performances in the future. Carlsen will keep doing carlsen things, he’s not even trying anymore besides the fact that he’s pushing for a higher chess rating lol.

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August 20, 2023, 05:31:35 PM
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Hey guys- what are your thoughts on the game between Abasov and Carlsen?

The match ended a few hours ago and I cannot help but to give Abasov a huge congratulations for reaching this far in this tournament! By far, this is probably his greatest run ever yet, defeating Giri, Vidit, and Peter Svidler on the FIDE World Chess Cup 2023. I really think that he has a bright future ahead of him as these matches skyrocketed his classical rating to around +2700.

Well, Magnus doing Magnus things when he grinded out the game into a draw with the black pieces against the London System opening, thereby securing his spot in the finals!

For Fabi vs Prag, their match ended again with a draw and the tie breaks would happen tomorrow- who do you guys think would win on this match?


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FIDE is the only tournament where Magnus has YET to won. Last 2021, he lost to Duda in the semi-finals and I really think that Magnus is hungry in winning this tournament!

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August 20, 2023, 05:47:21 PM
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A victory over Ivanchuk was expected since Ivanchuk has already left big chess and plays for pleasure, but he was once considered a real competitor to Kasparov and a contender for the crown.

I do not think that the victory against Ivanchuk is not expected. Imagine, he has been playing competitively at his age and he also defeated some super GMs in some tournaments. While he is definitely not in his prime, saying that a victory against him was "expected" somehow invalidates his chess prowess.
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Magnus is (so far) the favorite against any chess player. At the moment, Magnus is number 1 in the FIDE rating, and Ivanchuk is 66th. The difference in ratings is 163 points, which implies an 80% chance that Magnus will win, and given that this is not a separate game, the chances are close to 99%. It's just math, no disrespect.

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August 20, 2023, 05:59:49 PM
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Hey guys- what are your thoughts on the game between Abasov and Carlsen?

The match ended a few hours ago and I cannot help but to give Abasov a huge congratulations for reaching this far in this tournament! By far, this is probably his greatest run ever yet, defeating Giri, Vidit, and Peter Svidler on the FIDE World Chess Cup 2023. I really think that he has a bright future ahead of him as these matches skyrocketed his classical rating to around +2700.

Well, Magnus doing Magnus things when he grinded out the game into a draw with the black pieces against the London System opening, thereby securing his spot in the finals!

For Fabi vs Prag, their match ended again with a draw and the tie breaks would happen tomorrow- who do you guys think would win on this match?


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FIDE is the only tournament where Magnus has YET to won. Last 2021, he lost to Duda in the semi-finals and I really think that Magnus is hungry in winning this tournament!
Magnus is obviously Magnus. You will rarely see him actually getting defeated, losing to Duda was also a big exception that we saw, but yes Abasov will be pretty happy on this, playing candidates is in itself a big thing for him. If it would have been before the quarters of Pragg vs Arjun I would have said, Fabi will take it. But Pragg played so well in tie breakers in quarters I doubt it'll be easy to take him down. It'll be a big test of Fabi and even a small mistake can cost him the ticket to finals.
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Magnus is (so far) the favorite against any chess player. At the moment, Magnus is number 1 in the FIDE rating, and Ivanchuk is 66th. The difference in ratings is 163 points, which implies an 80% chance that Magnus will win, and given that this is not a separate game, the chances are close to 99%. It's just math, no disrespect.

Yup- I understand completely and I apologize if my tone sounded too harsh. I do agree, the difference in rating is really staggering given that we are in the era of chess engines but Magnus can still defeat Super GMs as if they are nothing. I guess what really separates him is his endgame skills and mastery of the game.

Magnus is obviously Magnus. You will rarely see him actually getting defeated, losing to Duda was also a big exception that we saw, but yes Abasov will be pretty happy on this, playing candidates is in itself a big thing for him. If it would have been before the quarters of Pragg vs Arjun I would have said, Fabi will take it. But Pragg played so well in tie breakers in quarters I doubt it'll be easy to take him down. It'll be a big test of Fabi and even a small mistake can cost him the ticket to finals.

As much as I want Prag to win, I do want to see a finals between Fabi vs Magnus; like they are re-creating their 2018 WCC where both Fabi and Magnus drew all of their 14 games with each other. What really made a difference is when they switched the time format from classical to a faster time format (rapid + blitz) where Magnus dominated Fabi.

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August 21, 2023, 05:02:29 PM
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Magnus is (so far) the favorite against any chess player. At the moment, Magnus is number 1 in the FIDE rating, and Ivanchuk is 66th. The difference in ratings is 163 points, which implies an 80% chance that Magnus will win, and given that this is not a separate game, the chances are close to 99%. It's just math, no disrespect.

Yup- I understand completely and I apologize if my tone sounded too harsh. I do agree, the difference in rating is really staggering given that we are in the era of chess engines but Magnus can still defeat Super GMs as if they are nothing. I guess what really separates him is his endgame skills and mastery of the game.
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No problem friend! I understood you. What really sets him apart from other chess players (and sometimes infuriates me) is his endgame play. He likes to play positions that are already theoretically drawable up to an extra 20-30 moves (in the hope of an opponent's mistake) and it must be admitted that this quite often gives him a victory. I understand that this is a top class skill, but from the outside (especially in classical chess) it often looks excruciatingly boring.

In the meantime, Pragnanadha beat Caruana and we will see the final I wanted. Hopefully Pragnanadha will be able to surprise Magnus with something.

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August 21, 2023, 05:19:33 PM
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In the meantime, Pragnanadha beat Caruana and we will see the final I wanted. Hopefully Pragnanadha will be able to surprise Magnus with something.

My guy Pragg getting into finals with Magnus will be a thing to watch. The draw that happened would have been won by Fabi had he noticed that single pawn E5 move, though that's only me making sense of what I watched at the time and I'm pretty sure Pragg would have taken a countermeasure in order to evade being defeated. I'm rooting for Pragg to win a game against Magnus, but given that he (Magnus) hadn't won the title yet, he's pretty much prepared to take this win and seal the deal.

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August 22, 2023, 05:50:47 PM
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In the meantime, Pragnanadha beat Caruana and we will see the final I wanted. Hopefully Pragnanadha will be able to surprise Magnus with something.

My guy Pragg getting into finals with Magnus will be a thing to watch. The draw that happened would have been won by Fabi had he noticed that single pawn E5 move, though that's only me making sense of what I watched at the time and I'm pretty sure Pragg would have taken a countermeasure in order to evade being defeated. I'm rooting for Pragg to win a game against Magnus, but given that he (Magnus) hadn't won the title yet, he's pretty much prepared to take this win and seal the deal.

I can't say that I'm rooting for anyone in particular from the younger generation - I'll be glad if any of the "new wave" finally starts to dominate, but there are two points that will make the situation more pleasant: 1. Carlsen should not be old and close to his peak (in principle, now you can say so about him because his main problem is a decrease in motivation). 2. It should not be Firuja - he was in the status of "the next king" for too long but could not live up to expectations, in some way he looks like Neymar who annoys me. Therefore, Pragnanandha is an ideal option and today I am rooting for him.

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August 23, 2023, 04:37:28 PM
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 I'm rooting for Pragg to win a game against Magnus, but given that he (Magnus) hadn't won the title yet, he's pretty much prepared to take this win and seal the deal.
Personally i would like to see Praggnanandhaa winning the tournament, he is the youngest player from India to reach the Chess World Cup final and hopefully he win win considering he has defeated Magnus Carlsen when he was just 16, the first two matches went for a draw and tomorrow's match will crown the winner and it is going to be a time control game.
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August 23, 2023, 07:33:54 PM
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Personally i would like to see Praggnanandhaa winning the tournament, he is the youngest player from India to reach the Chess World Cup final and hopefully he win win considering he has defeated Magnus Carlsen when he was just 16, the first two matches went for a draw and tomorrow's match will crown the winner and it is going to be a time control game.

It is interesting that in the match for third place it was also a 1-1 draw, but this draw was effective - at first Abasov won against Caruana, then vice versa. As for tomorrow's games, theoretically, as time control decreases, Carlsen's advantage grows (if I remember correctly, in blitz he has a huge advantage relative to everyone else), but the less time control, the higher the volatility of the results. This leaves some chance for Pragnanadha.

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August 23, 2023, 08:05:32 PM
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In the meantime, Pragnanadha beat Caruana and we will see the final I wanted. Hopefully Pragnanadha will be able to surprise Magnus with something.

My guy Pragg getting into finals with Magnus will be a thing to watch. The draw that happened would have been won by Fabi had he noticed that single pawn E5 move, though that's only me making sense of what I watched at the time and I'm pretty sure Pragg would have taken a countermeasure in order to evade being defeated. I'm rooting for Pragg to win a game against Magnus, but given that he (Magnus) hadn't won the title yet, he's pretty much prepared to take this win and seal the deal.
This first match of theirs is a sight to behold. Draw on Move 35 is just something massive for Pragg, but a little impactful for Magnus. He can't afford getting more draws now if he's shooting for a higher rating which he is. Anywho, ratings not considered, while Carlsen is still not in his prime focus considering that he's sick during the entirety of the match I think both will be able to put up a good fight in the process. Pragg is feeling the pressure but he shouldn't let this get to him if he wants to take the top spot. Carlsen, the man who always have to prove himself will as I said in the past, do Magnus Carlsen things. Next match is coming soon and I hope they bring the same level of performance in the board if not better. Future's looking bright for Pragg!

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August 24, 2023, 09:18:31 PM
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This first match of theirs is a sight to behold. Draw on Move 35 is just something massive for Pragg, but a little impactful for Magnus. He can't afford getting more draws now if he's shooting for a higher rating which he is. Anywho, ratings not considered, while Carlsen is still not in his prime focus considering that he's sick during the entirety of the match I think both will be able to put up a good fight in the process. Pragg is feeling the pressure but he shouldn't let this get to him if he wants to take the top spot. Carlsen, the man who always have to prove himself will as I said in the past, do Magnus Carlsen things. Next match is coming soon and I hope they bring the same level of performance in the board if not better. Future's looking bright for Pragg!

If you are talking about his goal of reaching a rating of 2900, then this is nothing more than a fantasy. According to the results of the FIDE Cup, he added only 3.8 points to his rating and now it is 2838. I'm sure he won't even go over 2850.

As I said, Pragnanadha turned out to be weaker on the faster time control - he lost time and was inaccurate in the endgame (the game he lost with White). It's a pity, but on the other hand, it's good that in classical chess with Carlsen, many can play on equal terms (almost, hehe).

Caruana finished in third place and guaranteed himself a spot in the 2024 Candidates Tournament.

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August 24, 2023, 09:33:53 PM
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This first match of theirs is a sight to behold. Draw on Move 35 is just something massive for Pragg, but a little impactful for Magnus. He can't afford getting more draws now if he's shooting for a higher rating which he is. Anywho, ratings not considered, while Carlsen is still not in his prime focus considering that he's sick during the entirety of the match I think both will be able to put up a good fight in the process. Pragg is feeling the pressure but he shouldn't let this get to him if he wants to take the top spot. Carlsen, the man who always have to prove himself will as I said in the past, do Magnus Carlsen things. Next match is coming soon and I hope they bring the same level of performance in the board if not better. Future's looking bright for Pragg!

If you are talking about his goal of reaching a rating of 2900, then this is nothing more than a fantasy. According to the results of the FIDE Cup, he added only 3.8 points to his rating and now it is 2838. I'm sure he won't even go over 2850.

As I said, Pragnanadha turned out to be weaker on the faster time control - he lost time and was inaccurate in the endgame (the game he lost with White). It's a pity, but on the other hand, it's good that in classical chess with Carlsen, many can play on equal terms (almost, hehe).

Caruana finished in third place and guaranteed himself a spot in the 2024 Candidates Tournament.

I was watching the whole game and it was pretty even until the last few minutes on the clock. With the black pieces, Magnus was able to snatch the victory against Pragg who blundered a pawn on the last few minutes. I do agree with you- Pragg was struggling to keep his cool when the clock was ticking down. Though that may be the case, Magnus still converted it into a win, playing all the accurate moves and being up the clock until the last moves!

Still, congratulations to Pragg for being able to qualify for the candidates next year- I cannot wait to see him in action against the Super GMs in the candidates.

Also, props to Fabi for winning 3rd place on the match! Abasos also deserves praise as he experienced the tournament of his life- finishing 4th and being able to defeat several GMs who are above his level.


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August 24, 2023, 11:29:51 PM
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 I'm rooting for Pragg to win a game against Magnus, but given that he (Magnus) hadn't won the title yet, he's pretty much prepared to take this win and seal the deal.
Personally i would like to see Praggnanandhaa winning the tournament, he is the youngest player from India to reach the Chess World Cup final and hopefully he win win considering he has defeated Magnus Carlsen when he was just 16, the first two matches went for a draw and tomorrow's match will crown the winner and it is going to be a time control game.
That was much expected, but this time he lost the match against the great Magnus Carlsen and secured ticket to the FIDE candidates tournament. In the tie breaker Magnus Carlsen is dominant and Praggnanandhaa can feel good as he had beaten world's leading Hikaru Nakamura and Fabiano Caruana to reach the finals. A boy who looks like the next door guy making the entire country look his moves is really great.
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