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June 29, 2022, 07:24:41 PM
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The precarious cryptocurrency market has been made worse by cryptocurrency lender Celsius' June declaration that it is banning withdrawals owing to "extreme market conditions." Following the market meltdown, crypto hedge fund Three Arrows Capital might possibly be insolvent. Three Arrows Capital has entered liquidation, worsening the crisis gripping the whole world's market for digital assets. Three Arrows was is also considering alternatives including the sale of assets or a firm's rescue.
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June 29, 2022, 07:40:02 PM
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The precarious cryptocurrency market has been made worse by cryptocurrency lender Celsius' June declaration that it is banning withdrawals owing to "extreme market conditions." Following the market meltdown, crypto hedge fund Three Arrows Capital might possibly be insolvent. Three Arrows Capital has entered liquidation, worsening the crisis gripping the whole world's market for digital assets. Three Arrows was is also considering alternatives including the sale of assets or a firm's rescue.
https://news.sky.com/story/crypto-hedge-fund-three-arrows-capital-plunges-into-liquidation-12642402

With the continuous downslide of the Bitcoin and the crypto market at large, is it too soon to say that we might likely be witnessing the end of it all?
End? The thing I could think right now that make bitcoin end is if no one use it which will be impossible or all of miners stop mining which is also impossible unless a world threat arrives like a meteor hitting the world that could end us all. Even if all government ban bitcoin, I'm sure someone will still able to use it.  We've experience news and situations like these in a bear market like we currently have so it's basically normal to have negative news about bitcoin from time to time now. Bitcoin have seen downslides like these before but where we are right now? Still using bitcoin  Roll Eyes
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June 29, 2022, 07:57:38 PM
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Let me introduce another variable. Maybe it's a gradual end of BTC, but in a way that something else takes it place. Like it happened with social media (and is happening still). BTC might not go away completly, and still stay as a store of value, but something else takes the top spot.

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but something else takes the top spot.

top spot in what manner?
if your talking about market cap..
well i can make an altcoin of a trillion coins, sell 1 coin for $1 and give it a market cap of $1..
just needs one time use of one coin.. .. does this make it "on top"
.. nope?
then what do you mean "on top".
is it a market price bigger then bitcoin.
well i can make an altcoin of just 21m coins.
put it on the market. sell 1 coin to myself for $500k (not costing me that, because im paying myself, so no loss) but the market price is now $500k.
oh and that market cap is $10.5trill.. yet again its just utility of 1 coin.
is this altcoin now "on top"? .. no?

so whats "ontop"
is it number of transactions performed a day..
well there are many altcoins and altnets spamming their networks. not actually purchasing anything but just being brute forced or spamming for the sake of data bloating/faking volume/bug testing/mixer/routed/etc

are they ontop?.. no?
so what measure do you consider ontop.

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June 29, 2022, 08:42:31 PM
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What do you mean by end of Bitcoin? just because Celsius froze all accounts and funds on them and then generalized that a Bitcoin holdout would cause all Bitcoin markets to end?
In my opinion, Celsius is only 1% of what is currently running in the market. So it won't make the Bitcoin market come to an end.

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June 29, 2022, 08:57:21 PM
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With the continuous downslide of the Bitcoin and the crypto market at large, is it too soon to say that we might likely be witnessing the end of it all?

I want to believe that 13 years is not a joke for a digital currency like bitcoin remain outstanding among other cryptocurrencies, not because of anything than the trust and person(s) behind the coin, bitcoin isn't going anywhere bit rather have fome to stay and remain relevance to the economy, when there's a dip im lrice we consider the last bear market before the ATH and after the ATH it will not fall below the starting point it took off from, which is believed to be $20k, now it it revolving round this range should signify the certain limit reached and bitcoin is ready to either maintain it for now or prepare to run bullish as a result.

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June 29, 2022, 09:16:48 PM
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Bitcoin has a very bright future because many high-profile investors have invested in it; it is pointless to predict that Bitcoin will die or end soon. This crypto market situation is only a matter of time, and I believe it will end soon.

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June 29, 2022, 09:22:46 PM
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With the continuous downslide of the Bitcoin and the crypto market at large, is it too soon to say that we might likely be witnessing the end of it all?
Well, it's too early to say it's all over. Bitcoin with increasingly massive adoption and now more and more countries are opening up long-term investments in Bitcoin, then big companies like MicroStrategy increased their purchasing power by 480 Bitcoins today https://twitter.com/saylor/status/1542117682207678465 so I don't think Bitcoin will end only because of the downturn and the issues out there that are currently buzzing.

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June 29, 2022, 09:24:36 PM
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What do you mean by end of Bitcoin? just because Celsius froze all accounts and funds on them and then generalized that a Bitcoin holdout would cause all Bitcoin markets to end?
In my opinion, Celsius is only 1% of what is currently running in the market. So it won't make the Bitcoin market come to an end.
Most of the time on which having that lacking of some research and in depth analysis could really make out these kind of questions which turns out to be laughable if the community that supports Bitcoin
would able to read.  Grin

If we do really know on how many times bitcoin died and how many times this market been stormed out by lots of negativities around but still it do stood strong even up to this moment.
Having these declines wont really be that enough for it to signify that its ending is near.

You cant really just make yourself that too impulsive on which you do ending up on presuming that we are already heading there? Impossible.
As long you could see the support then it is really not going to happen.

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June 29, 2022, 09:30:21 PM
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there are thousands/millions of businesses .. hundreds of countries. involved.

there are even today sooo many companies trying to lobby (old slow backward)governments for some regulatory policy to get the legalised ability to run a bitcoin business..

businesses are waiting to start accepting bitcoin.
ETF's want to start. merchants want to start. the list goes on

people are waiting to be able to put their retirement portfolios into investing in bitcoin

. so its not over.. its just begun

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What is "the end"? Bitcoin was doing fine before Luna, Celsius and Three Arrows were created. It did not need them to function and it still doesn't need any of them to be successful.
You interchangeably use words bitcoin and crypto. A crypto crash doesn't mean a bitcoin crash and crypto problems aren't bitcoin problems. Bitcoin would never react to Luna's death if not for the fact that the owner of Luna used profits from selling his own shitcoin to buy bitcoin and then sold it all at once crashing the price.

Celsius can die and not influence bitcoin at all but if its owners hold bitcoin and are forced to sell to cover their own liabilities, that's another thing.

One more thing. Price doesn't say anything about bitcoin's life cycle. It can lose 90% in price and then gain another 100% and it will still be up over the course of 3 years.



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June 29, 2022, 09:47:07 PM
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The precarious cryptocurrency market has been made worse by cryptocurrency lender Celsius' June declaration that it is banning withdrawals owing to "extreme market conditions." Following the market meltdown, crypto hedge fund Three Arrows Capital might possibly be insolvent. Three Arrows Capital has entered liquidation, worsening the crisis gripping the whole world's market for digital assets. Three Arrows was is also considering alternatives including the sale of assets or a firm's rescue.
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With the continuous downslide of the Bitcoin and the crypto market at large, is it too soon to say that we might likely be witnessing the end of it all?

No, actually is was made better. One less shitcoin to make our lives miserable! Maybe some of those who lost money may now learn that shitcoins will always end up in these types of scenarios. That's what you get when you don't understand Bitcoin. The only thing I'm sorry is the bad advertising it brings to Bitcoin, because at the end of the day, these people who lost money, probably when they hear again about Bitcoin, they will immeidately say "ahh fuck crypto. I lost 50k last year or so". You know what I mean? By that time, that people will put Bitcoin in the same bag as any other shitcoins. Evolution theory will take care of all those scams!


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June 29, 2022, 11:26:16 PM
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Use some logic for a second, how can one company end Bitcoin? There was already a similar case - the MtGox hack, and since it happened in the early days, it was pretty devastating, and still Bitcoin endured, because its fundamentals didn't change. This situation with Celsius and previously with Luna caused some panic, but all it does is highlighting that Bitcoin is still volatile, has low volume and lacks resilience, but it's dump to think that because of that Bitcoin might be going to zero. Eventually such news will have no effect on Bitcoin's price.

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June 29, 2022, 11:30:57 PM
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The precarious cryptocurrency market

well maybe the best word would be to say that it is a still new and expanding market

With the continuous downslide of the Bitcoin and the crypto market at large, is it too soon to say that we might likely be witnessing the end of it all?

a few years ago (2017) the price went up from less than 1000$ to 19000$ and everyone was happy and saying optimistic things and making price predictions that were just absurd but something like 50,000$, well the price didn't reach 50,000$ and it dropped to 3000$ and people started saying that it was the end of bitcoin. some time later the price went up from 3000$ to over 60,000$ and the 50000$ that was an absurd prediction became something realistic, so now that the price has dropped to 20,000$ let's once again get into the fairy tale of what the end is ? Why can't we accept that this kind of fall is something normal? Why do you have to think it's the end?

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June 29, 2022, 11:41:39 PM
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With the continuous downslide of the Bitcoin and the crypto market at large, is it too soon to say that we might likely be witnessing the end of it all?
If this is your first time experiencing such a bearish market, it is normal for you to feel this. But, as you know, Bitcoin and also other cryptocurrencies have ever experienced this kind of bearsih market, where all cryptos were dropped until very dip bottom, likely going to be dead. But in fact, Bitcoin and some altcoins can still survive and are worthy at all, passing new ATH like in 2021.
That is why I suggest you not to panic with this market codntiion. Never beleiev in any FUD that people make ands pread.
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June 29, 2022, 11:44:43 PM
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The precarious cryptocurrency market has been made worse by cryptocurrency lender Celsius' June declaration that it is banning withdrawals owing to "extreme market conditions." Following the market meltdown, crypto hedge fund Three Arrows Capital might possibly be insolvent. Three Arrows Capital has entered liquidation, worsening the crisis gripping the whole world's market for digital assets. Three Arrows was is also considering alternatives including the sale of assets or a firm's rescue.
https://news.sky.com/story/crypto-hedge-fund-three-arrows-capital-plunges-into-liquidation-12642402

With the continuous downslide of the Bitcoin and the crypto market at large, is it too soon to say that we might likely be witnessing the end of it all?

At least if you are going to declare bitcoin dead you have to put more "seasoning" into the argument, you have to measure or understand things by the probabilities that they happen, so you should mention that, not leave it to the feeling of "..." or an article, then, what probabilistic percentage so that for the umpteenth time they kill bitcoin this can happen?

Even in the most apocalyptic hypothetical scenario of bitcoin, it has an "irreverent" factor that few assets or investments that exist or have existed have, TRUST, I'm not shouting, apologies its capital letters but I want to give it relevance.

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June 29, 2022, 11:59:25 PM
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Let me introduce another variable. Maybe it's a gradual end of BTC, but in a way that something else takes it place. Like it happened with social media (and is happening still). BTC might not go away completly, and still stay as a store of value, but something else takes the top spot.

However this might happen in future but currently this seems not to be the case. Bitcoin is most decentralized across all the digital currencies and it will remain to the king of cryptocurrencies.
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June 30, 2022, 12:05:01 AM
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With the continuous downslide of the Bitcoin and the crypto market at large, is it too soon to say that we might likely be witnessing the end of it all?
I little bit happy to hear this noted, end of bitcoin is I really need to hear that word between 2020-2021, but i just heard now from you. Maybe a little bit late because they were dumped, If I bought now, I need to have more patience until back to the pocket for sure.

Man, if you have cash, don't waste this opportunity, use it to buy up now. I believe you will laugh at the mouth itself when reading this thread in 2023-2024.

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June 30, 2022, 01:36:58 AM
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The precarious cryptocurrency market has been made worse by cryptocurrency lender Celsius' June declaration that it is banning withdrawals owing to "extreme market conditions." Following the market meltdown, crypto hedge fund Three Arrows Capital might possibly be insolvent. Three Arrows Capital has entered liquidation, worsening the crisis gripping the whole world's market for digital assets. Three Arrows was is also considering alternatives including the sale of assets or a firm's rescue.
https://news.sky.com/story/crypto-hedge-fund-three-arrows-capital-plunges-into-liquidation-12642402

With the continuous downslide of the Bitcoin and the crypto market at large, is it too soon to say that we might likely be witnessing the end of it all?

It might have a short term effect on the price of bitcoin, just like what Terra Luna did to the market. But questioning whether we are approaching towards the end of Bitcoin, LOL, not sure if you have been here in 2018 because that time was really very hard for the majority of us. But we survived, just like we will this bear cycle.

So to answer your question, no, we will pull through, you just need to stay relax and take the advantage of fattening your wallet with cheap BTC.

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With the continuous downslide of the Bitcoin and the crypto market at large, is it too soon to say that we might likely be witnessing the end of it all?
Well, it's too early to say it's all over. Bitcoin with increasingly massive adoption and now more and more countries are opening up long-term investments in Bitcoin, then big companies like MicroStrategy increased their purchasing power by 480 Bitcoins today https://twitter.com/saylor/status/1542117682207678465 so I don't think Bitcoin will end only because of the downturn and the issues out there that are currently buzzing.

Agreed, well no one can predict the future but definitely its not over yet, check out this article about** “halving”**

https://www.bitfufu.com/content/NEW100001)


The history of BTC

Throughout the history of BTC, the price of the currency has experienced three-step gains, and all three occurred after halving.

This so-called halving refers to the halving of the bookkeeping reward.

The accounting work that revolves around BTC needs to be completed by many users in the P2P network. The network uses BTC as an incentive for active bookkeeping and sends them to users who complete these tasks. How are bookkeepers chosen fairly from among the many users? Satoshi Nakamoto's method is to ask mathematical problems. The user needs to use a device to calculate the answer to questions provided by the network, and the first user to answer correctly will receive the right to bookkeeping and BTC rewards. This process is known as mining.

Mining is a method of issuing new BTC and is at the source of the BTC economic ecology.

There are 21 million BTCs in total. Initially, the billing reward was 50 Bitcoins, but for every 210,000 billings, the billing reward is reduced by half. The Bitcoin network bills once every 10 minutes, and the interval between two halvings is about 4 years.

Initially, BTC was worth nothing. It was not until May 22, 2010 that the first BTC transaction occurred in the real world when Florida, USA’s Laszlo Hanyecz purchased two pizzas with 10,000 BTC. At that time, two pizzas were about 25 USD (1 BTC = 0.0025 USD), giving the BTC its physical value for the first time. This day is also known as Bitcoin Pizza Day by the crypto community.

On July 18, 2010, the BTC exchange Mt. Gox went online. On that day, BTC price was 5 cents (1 BTC = 0.05 USD).

On February 9, 2011, BTC reached parity with the USD for the first time (1 BTC = 1 USD).

On November 28, 2012, BTC ushered in the first halving, and the price of the currency began to rise from 12.35 USD. Nearly one year later, on November 30, 2013, it reached a peak of $1,149.14 and then retreated sharply, plunging more than 51% at one point, falling to as low as 203.86 USD and signaling the start of a two-year bear market.

On July 9, 2016, BTC ushered in the second halving, and the price of the currency began to rise from $653.70. Nearly one and a half years later, on December 17, 2017, it reached a peak of 19,535.70 USD, but then retreated sharply, falling more than 67% at one point, reaching a low of $3,209.76 and starting a one-year bear market.

On May 12, 2020, BTC ushered in the third halving, and the price of the currency began to rise from US$8,879.80. Nearly one year later, on April 13, 2021, it reached a peak of 63,000 USD. Subsequently, it fell sharply, with a drop of more than 47% at one point, reaching a low of 29,987.31 USD (as of July 22, 2021).

The three tiered increases in the price of BTC all occurred within one to one and a half years following the halving. After peaking, there will be a 50%-70% callback within 2 months, and then enter the slow bear until the next halving.

Despite fluctuations, each halving will bring the currency price to a new level, and the bottom of the currency price has been increasing. Overall, the currency price shows a trend of volatility and increase.

Everyone should own BTC.


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