2023 WNBA Discussion and Betting

[Pamadar]

Forgot to mention that A'ja Wilson was awarded the Women's World Cup MVP and Alyssa Thomas for the Best Defensive Player.
Well, they deserve it, and congratulations to them.

Well deserve indeed, Wilson creates numbers for herself, a good 2-way player who can contribute a lot.

I really wish there will be better competition in the next World Cup. This year it was too obvious which country will win it and the odds also show it.

Nothing to say, we all witness how team US dominated the entire league, hopefully China and Aussie will improve more together with all the rest womens national representatives.

Women's basketball seems to still lack a number of skilled players and perhaps it's also because of the lack of support from their respective countries.

The focus mostly for Mens national team and Womens only recieve a little. We can't deny that fact.

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[YuginKadoya]

It's not just that, I think menstruation, and pregnancy is included in the consideration. It's also happening in businesses and companies where they don't like women working because of the sudden absences or leaves due to the events mentioned.

Well, you are right there are certain things women have and can do that Men can not and that is giving birth, surely these types of things certainly are not allowed in a certain company and women also have a menstrual cycle where there are statistics that around 80% of women are feeling periods of pain in their lifetime and they can feel discomfort during these times, that mostly they can not work or their work may be disrupted, and those pain can surely be severe on their 1st day of periods, but in 5% to 10% of women the pain is sometimes severe enough to disrupt their life, their whole life routine worse some are bedridden because of these pains,

Nothing to say, we all witness how team US dominated the entire league, hopefully China and Aussie will improve more together with all the rest womens national representatives.

I think China has a women's basketball in their country and it is the WCBA or Women's Chinese Basketball Association which was established in 2002 and is a Chinese counterpart of the CBA or the Chinese Basketball Association China surely has its own WNBA in their country but yeah the level of competition might be not that much, but China's Women's Basketball has a player on the WNBA and that is Li Yueru from Chicago Sky and Han Xu from New York Liberty but yeah the whole team of the WNBA is really not fair than just getting 2 players at all, because the USA team is surely a dream team to behold,

[Pamadar]

I think China has a women's basketball in their country and it is the WCBA or Women's Chinese Basketball Association which was established in 2002 and is a Chinese counterpart of the CBA or the Chinese Basketball Association China surely has its own WNBA in their country but yeah the level of competition might be not that much, but China's Women's Basketball has a player on the WNBA and that is Li Yueru from Chicago Sky and Han Xu from New York Liberty but yeah the whole team of the WNBA is really not fair than just getting 2 players at all, because the USA team is surely a dream team to behold,

I think that is right, though we have seen that they are being dominated by team US, but the fighting spirit is really high.

Even they've lost the finals but they win the heart of their home fans, each time they made conversions
the fans are really enjoying and cheering for them, we never know what will happen after some years for
this young cores of Chinese team but I expect they will continue to be on the upper side after witnessing
that last FIBA women finals.

[danherbias07]

Here's an example of how our WNBA players are dealing with it when they are pregnant.
https://twitter.com/WNBA/status/1577418289587683328?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

The WNBA Presents Motherhood featuring Napheesa Collier

Here is the full clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrmkJeJePkU

9 months + rest. It's one of the challenging parts when you are becoming a mother but fully rewarding.
Another rough path is when you are trying to get back to the game. You will need to be fit again and it will take months of training and exercise then, trying to tell yourself you are good to go mentally.
Some will go back, some don't. I think that's what businesses are trying to avoid that is why the support for women's basketball is lesser.

[Pamadar]

Here's an example of how our WNBA players are dealing with it when they are pregnant.
https://twitter.com/WNBA/status/1577418289587683328?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

The WNBA Presents Motherhood featuring Napheesa Collier

Here is the full clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrmkJeJePkU

9 months + rest. It's one of the challenging parts when you are becoming a mother but fully rewarding.
Another rough path is when you are trying to get back to the game. You will need to be fit again and it will take months of training and exercise then, trying to tell yourself you are good to go mentally.
Some will go back, some don't. I think that's what businesses are trying to avoid that is why the support for women's basketball is lesser.

This is true. There are things that we need to consider once a woman athlete gets impregnated and delivers a child.

There are skill-sets that they might be no longer the same when they comeback and play the game again,
not saying this to bring down our women athletes, but part of them will grow with the child and the focus
is something that will challenge them most of the time the mental stabilities, but talent wise that can be
learn when doing deeper practices and exercise.

[jakelyson]

Luckily, pregnancy can be controlled these days. If an athlete does not want to get pregnant because she is on top of his career, she can choose not to.

It is really hard for them to come back to their competitive state once they are away for too long. Not to mention that the changes in their body might have a negative effect on their performance. So, I think most female athletes already have plans or do birth control to protect their careers. And once they are ready to quit or move on from sports, they can stop doing birth control. It is not that much of a hindrance anymore. It is more of a choice these days.

[danherbias07]

I just finished reading this article.
https://www.espn.ph/olympics/story/_/id/34696652/fiba-world-cup-2022-alyssa-thomas-making-most-us-national-team-debut
I didn't have a clue there is a deep story behind Alyssa Thomas joining the national team.

"I wasn't too focused on playing for Team USA, but she called me and explained her vision and talked about the defense and the passing, and I think that's my identity and role," Thomas said Friday. "So for me, it was a no-brainer to give it a try."

A'ja Wilson, the 2022 WNBA MVP whose Las Vegas Aces beat Thomas' Sun in the Finals earlier this month, called Thomas, "the glue of this team, the X factor." The Seattle Storm's Jewell Loyd said Thomas is "the MVP of the tournament."

There's no question she is a great player but she proved it more after the game against the Aces and the Fiba Women's Basketball World Cup.
She did contribute a lot for the Connecticut Sun to play in the Finals (although sadly they lost) and achieve the gold for the USA.

[YuginKadoya]

I think that is right, though we have seen that they are being dominated by team US, but the fighting spirit is really high.

Even they've lost the finals but they win the heart of their home fans, each time they made conversions
the fans are really enjoying and cheering for them, we never know what will happen after some years for
this young cores of Chinese team but I expect they will continue to be on the upper side after witnessing
that last FIBA women finals.

That is how amazing fan support truly is this goes to show how amazing the Chinese people would go for their players I just realized the Philippine basketball community on the recent Fiba cup I think every country will truly support 1 another in the fight for the country, but in the World cup like these the cheer and support was pretty much different than with the support and cheer when a player is playing against one another, I think in the next year because of this Dominating performance of the USA I hope other countries will be more determined getting the goal that they want,

Here's an example of how our WNBA players are dealing with it when they are pregnant.
https://twitter.com/WNBA/status/1577418289587683328?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

The WNBA Presents Motherhood featuring Napheesa Collier

Here is the full clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrmkJeJePkU

9 months + rest. It's one of the challenging parts when you are becoming a mother but fully rewarding.
Another rough path is when you are trying to get back to the game. You will need to be fit again and it will take months of training and exercise then, trying to tell yourself you are good to go mentally.
Some will go back, some don't. I think that's what businesses are trying to avoid that is why the support for women's basketball is lesser.

Great find on the video a totally needed information because we have a topic about certain issues with women working in companies and nobody likes to hire them and I think this good example of what may happen when they are pregnant and the solution to this, is 9 months plus 1 rest for the mother, that is pretty much good topic indeed,

[danherbias07]

Great find on the video a totally needed information because we have a topic about certain issues with women working in companies and nobody likes to hire them and I think this good example of what may happen when they are pregnant and the solution to this, is 9 months plus 1 rest for the mother, that is pretty much good topic indeed,

Yeah, and not just that.
Recently a WNBA player died because of breast cancer. Here is the full article about the news.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wnba-former-texas-longhorns-star-tiffany-jackson-dies-37-rcna50684

WNBA and former Texas Longhorns star Tiffany Jackson dies at 37

Former Los Angles Sparks player but her better days was with New York Liberty. Led the league at games played and 4th in the rebounding category.
Breast cancer is mostly found in women and this is another sad day for the women's sports industry. She's still young at 37 years of age.

[YuginKadoya]

Great find on the video a totally needed information because we have a topic about certain issues with women working in companies and nobody likes to hire them and I think this good example of what may happen when they are pregnant and the solution to this, is 9 months plus 1 rest for the mother, that is pretty much good topic indeed,

Yeah, and not just that.
Recently a WNBA player died because of breast cancer. Here is the full article about the news.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wnba-former-texas-longhorns-star-tiffany-jackson-dies-37-rcna50684

WNBA and former Texas Longhorns star Tiffany Jackson dies at 37

Former Los Angles Sparks player but her better days was with New York Liberty. Led the league at games played and 4th in the rebounding category.
Breast cancer is mostly found in women and this is another sad day for the women's sports industry. She's still young at 37 years of age.

This is another cause why women are not into contract sports their upper part was exposed to hits that may cause swelling and you never know if women have breast cancer, if not checked properly, but again it is still their own choice if they are a Basketball player, Boxer, MMA fighter or any combat contact sports they play, regardless they are still vulnerable to any cancer in their body,

Well, that is surely sad news for the WNBA community, I haven't seen Tiffany Jackson in action because I have just started watching the WNBA and put it on my list to try and watch sports, but her legacy and braveness live on, it was on 2017 the last years of her WNBA career, and it was on Los Angeles Sparks and now she is a coach as an assistant in Texas for the Longhorns, Rest In Peace

In other great news Well on the 2020 NBA bubble while many are in a Covid lockdown inside the bubble Lebron James and other league stars  were hungry to spread the word about the WNBA by wearing matching W's orange-and-white pullover hoodies, Lebron James,  Russell Westbrook, Chris Paul, Damian Lillard, Trae Young, and DeMar DeRozan in hopes in spreading awareness and supporting the NBA's Sister Company League during the today's talk uninterrupted series "The Shop," Lebron James was interviewed, I would love getting a hoodie like that to support the WNBA aswell,

[Pamadar]

Great find on the video a totally needed information because we have a topic about certain issues with women working in companies and nobody likes to hire them and I think this good example of what may happen when they are pregnant and the solution to this, is 9 months plus 1 rest for the mother, that is pretty much good topic indeed,

Yeah, and not just that.
Recently a WNBA player died because of breast cancer. Here is the full article about the news.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wnba-former-texas-longhorns-star-tiffany-jackson-dies-37-rcna50684

WNBA and former Texas Longhorns star Tiffany Jackson dies at 37

Former Los Angles Sparks player but her better days was with New York Liberty. Led the league at games played and 4th in the rebounding category.
Breast cancer is mostly found in women and this is another sad day for the women's sports industry. She's still young at 37 years of age.

This is another cause why women are not into contract sports their upper part was exposed to hits that may cause swelling and you never know if women have breast cancer, if not checked properly, but again it is still their own choice if they are a Basketball player, Boxer, MMA fighter or any combat contact sports they play, regardless they are still vulnerable to any cancer in their body,

Well, that is surely sad news for the WNBA community, I haven't seen Tiffany Jackson in action because I have just started watching the WNBA and put it on my list to try and watch sports, but her legacy and braveness live on, it was on 2017 the last years of her WNBA career, and it was on Los Angeles Sparks and now she is a coach as an assistant in Texas for the Longhorns, Rest In Peace

Sad because she's still young and fighting with this kind of illness which is really common with women victims.

Yeah, your logic is right. Women's upper part is at risk and just like how Jackson died, the chance that it was because of
frequent hit to his boobs, though they are using protections but battling for rebounds and being so active inside the paint
ii is not impossible that he will get that much hit. Rest in Peace Tiff..

[yazher]

Luckily, pregnancy can be controlled these days. If an athlete does not want to get pregnant because she is on top of his career, she can choose not to.

It is really hard for them to come back to their competitive state once they are away for too long. Not to mention that the changes in their body might have a negative effect on their performance. So, I think most female athletes already have plans or do birth control to protect their careers. And once they are ready to quit or move on from sports, they can stop doing birth control. It is not that much of a hindrance anymore. It is more of a choice these days.

There is an advantage for them and they also make big decisions in their life when they decided not to get pregnant because they cutting their chances to have a child. Anyway, this is a different discussion since most athletes are rich and they can pay to make it possible. I never thought that their strength will drastically be decreased after they give birth and I mean, their worth in the sports industry will probably also decrease or in the worst scenario, no one will gonna sign them a full contract anymore.

[Plaguedeath]

There is an advantage for them and they also make big decisions in their life when they decided not to get pregnant because they cutting their chances to have a child. Anyway, this is a different discussion since most athletes are rich and they can pay to make it possible. I never thought that their strength will drastically be decreased after they give birth and I mean, their worth in the sports industry will probably also decrease or in the worst scenario, no one will gonna sign them a full contract anymore.

Usually an athlete women will choose his career over anything, so if her performance is still at the peak, I don't think she will quit WNBA just to have a child. Although she may regret when she get older, but it's what it's and she might just choose to marry widower.

Don't forget many athlete usually doesn't have good strength and power, but Sue Bird and Diana Taurasi which is 40 years old player seems like 30 years old player. I think women after get pregnancy can still jump into competitive scene, but it take time until she really back like before.

[jakelyson]

There is an advantage for them and they also make big decisions in their life when they decided not to get pregnant because they cutting their chances to have a child. Anyway, this is a different discussion since most athletes are rich and they can pay to make it possible. I never thought that their strength will drastically be decreased after they give birth and I mean, their worth in the sports industry will probably also decrease or in the worst scenario, no one will gonna sign them a full contract anymore.

Usually an athlete women will choose his career over anything, so if her performance is still at the peak, I don't think she will quit WNBA just to have a child. Although she may regret when she get older, but it's what it's and she might just choose to marry widower.

It is a personal preference actually. We cannot tell what the athletes want or do not want to do. It is their body and they can do whatever they want with it. Whether they bear a child or not, it is their choice. We can just support them if they choose to do so.

Don't forget many athlete usually doesn't have good strength and power, but Sue Bird and Diana Taurasi which is 40 years old player seems like 30 years old player. I think women after get pregnancy can still jump into competitive scene, but it take time until she really back like before.

Of course, they still can get back to their sports. It will take time to get back though because it is almost a year that they will be gone from their sports if ever they decided to get pregnant. They will be rusty at first, but through training, they can get back to their old self.

[YuginKadoya]

Sad because she's still young and fighting with this kind of illness which is really common with women victims.

Yeah, your logic is right. Women's upper part is at risk and just like how Jackson died, the chance that it was because of
frequent hit to his boobs, though they are using protections but battling for rebounds and being so active inside the paint
ii is not impossible that he will get that much hit. Rest in Peace Tiff..

Well, because of her passing there will be family and friends that will surely mourn and miss her, but because she is now a coach to a team of promising kids the Texas Longhorns women's basketball, there will be a gap for these future generations that Tiffany Jackson won't be there to give the knowledge she can give and to witness those kids grow, and there will be a prayer vigil for her this coming October 17, in celebrating the wonderful life of Tiffany Jackson,

There is an advantage for them and they also make big decisions in their life when they decided not to get pregnant because they cutting their chances to have a child. Anyway, this is a different discussion since most athletes are rich and they can pay to make it possible. I never thought that their strength will drastically be decreased after they give birth and I mean, their worth in the sports industry will probably also decrease or in the worst scenario, no one will gonna sign them a full contract anymore.

It will surely depend on the women's athletes I guess, there are some that still stay the same even though they have given birth, but there are that have changed when they do give birth, I think we all have those questions about the human body and how it works but let's not get out of the box and think a lot about that, 

[danherbias07]

Actually sport is different from other employment,in this the people health also lead to loss.Some boxing woman get into the breast cancer and other issue.Woman are normally weak then a men.It doesn’t mean of anything leads to physical involvement leads to some physical imbalance in the future.And normal people spoiling their health with the wealth they are earning.When the woman cross the value of 35,it leads their value reduction.When the physically weak woman involved in sports,they get more weak after the game after 35 years.Even many Asian cricketers was announced their retirement after attaining age of 32.It’s not only of their age.It’s totally depend on the health condition of the player involved in it.Even in same Asian cricket ,they had affected huge people.

That's why it's a great achievement for all women if they can still play sports at age 35+. One good example is recently retired Sue Bird who just announce his last game of the WNBA season at age 41. Obviously, she could still play and I think she will be focusing on something else that's why she decided to retire.
Imagine that, 41. Even men are having a hard time playing at that age at the same speed and performance as she did.
Women have something to prove so they would go to such lengths even if it is their health that is on the line. Without a doubt, they already proven a lot of things but sadly they still lack the numbers of women joining in and being supported.

[Pamadar]

Actually sport is different from other employment,in this the people health also lead to loss.Some boxing woman get into the breast cancer and other issue.Woman are normally weak then a men.It doesn’t mean of anything leads to physical involvement leads to some physical imbalance in the future.And normal people spoiling their health with the wealth they are earning.When the woman cross the value of 35,it leads their value reduction.When the physically weak woman involved in sports,they get more weak after the game after 35 years.Even many Asian cricketers was announced their retirement after attaining age of 32.It’s not only of their age.It’s totally depend on the health condition of the player involved in it.Even in same Asian cricket ,they had affected huge people.

That's why it's a great achievement for all women if they can still play sports at age 35+. One good example is recently retired Sue Bird who just announce his last game of the WNBA season at age 41. Obviously, she could still play and I think she will be focusing on something else that's why she decided to retire.
Imagine that, 41. Even men are having a hard time playing at that age at the same speed and performance as she did.
Women have something to prove so they would go to such lengths even if it is their health that is on the line. Without a doubt, they already proven a lot of things but sadly they still lack the numbers of women joining in and being supported.

I like how you define Sue Bird as she is really a good example of an athlete who spend long time with his career.

Even she's 41, we can still see her IQ inside the court, though there are many new young stars that, really
making their way into this sport, but we witness how Sue continues to compete before she announces her
retirement, I was still expecting her playing in that last FIBA but she already hang her uniform.

[danherbias07]

I like how you define Sue Bird as she is really a good example of an athlete who spend long time with his career.

Even she's 41, we can still see her IQ inside the court, though there are many new young stars that, really
making their way into this sport, but we witness how Sue continues to compete before she announces her
retirement, I was still expecting her playing in that last FIBA but she already hang her uniform.

Yeah, perhaps she felt that this is the right time to retire. She made a good run with her career and I think she will be listed in the Hall of Fame too.

Next in line who is a known WNBA player to retire might be Candace Parker.
36 years of age and she also proved a lot of things already. She's in the process of re-evaluating her game.
https://twitter.com/WNBA/status/1568075457387544576?s=20&t=Sb5Zjg--1Fd7C71l2SHcjQ
IIRC, last year she was supposed to rest but was only convinced by her daughter Lailaa Nicole Williams to play one more year and so she did.
One more year in her contract with the Sky. After that, there's a possibility that she will hang her uniform too.

[YuginKadoya]

That's why it's a great achievement for all women if they can still play sports at age 35+. One good example is recently retired Sue Bird who just announce his last game of the WNBA season at age 41. Obviously, she could still play and I think she will be focusing on something else that's why she decided to retire.
Imagine that, 41. Even men are having a hard time playing at that age at the same speed and performance as she did.
Women have something to prove so they would go to such lengths even if it is their health that is on the line. Without a doubt, they already proven a lot of things but sadly they still lack the numbers of women joining in and being supported.

Totally Agreed with you imagine that age is playing on the regular NBA it will be much different That playing it in the WNBA I don't know why but there may be a genetic structure for Men and Women that could only be playing in that age limit but it will always depend on every individual, I will never know that Sue Bird is already 41 if you hadn't said it in the forum, she doesn't really look like 41 to me, and if you look at Russell Westbrook that was only 33 years old, then he surely looks like 41 years old to me compared to the Prime Westbrook he used to be back then, While Lebron James has a different genetic structure he is already 37 years old but he didn't look like one instead he only look 30 for me,

Well sometimes in women it is not really that visible, but for men, you can tell by looking at them physically and on paper when looking at their game records,

I like how you define Sue Bird as she is really a good example of an athlete who spend long time with his career.

Even she's 41, we can still see her IQ inside the court, though there are many new young stars that, really
making their way into this sport, but we witness how Sue continues to compete before she announces her
retirement, I was still expecting her playing in that last FIBA but she already hang her uniform.

She will be an inspiration for many generations to come, and she will be an inspiration to many that everything is possible, and right now I think the nearest players that may retire soon from the WNBA are Allie Quigley who is now 36, Alysha Clark who is 35, Briann January who is now 35, Candace Parker that is 36, and Yvonne Turner who is 35, I know there are still plenty of years to come but they are nearing that age retirement kind of thing,

While in the NBA we have retired at the age of 45 up to 42

Nat Hickey - is 45 years old last team was Providence Steamrollers (1948)
Kevin Willis - is 44 years old last team was Dallas Mavericks (2007)
Vince Carter - is 43 years old last team was the Atlanta Hawks (2018–2020)
Dikembe Mutombo - is 42 years old last team was the Houston Rockets (2004–2009)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - is 42 years old last team was the Los Angeles Lakers (1975–1989)

And the rest was aged 41 to 40, while Udonis Haslem was 42 years old and still active and playing with the team Miami Heat (2003–present)

[danherbias07]

Well sometimes in women it is not really that visible, but for men, you can tell by looking at them physically and on paper when looking at their game records,

Yeah, their speed and mostly being in the injured section will be the signal of their aging.
But Sue was different at her last game. She looks like she can still play more but there must be other reasons for her retirement.

While in the NBA we have retired at the age of 45 up to 42

Nat Hickey - is 45 years old last team was Providence Steamrollers (1948)
Kevin Willis - is 44 years old last team was Dallas Mavericks (2007)
Vince Carter - is 43 years old last team was the Atlanta Hawks (2018–2020)
Dikembe Mutombo - is 42 years old last team was the Houston Rockets (2004–2009)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - is 42 years old last team was the Los Angeles Lakers (1975–1989)

And the rest was aged 41 to 40, while Udonis Haslem was 42 years old and still active and playing with the team Miami Heat (2003–present)

This ain't happening anymore with most of the NBA players. At age 35, they are on the brink of deciding to hang their uniforms. Most deals they can make are veteran minimums for a year and it will be difficult to have one unless they have connections or they have something to contribute on the sidelines just like the position of Udonis.

I just recently checked the contracts of WNBA players, I didn't know it was way far from the amount NBA players make. Most are just 6 digits while in NBA they make 8 digits.