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July 01, 2022, 03:58:29 AM
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If inflation worsens to highest then rate hikes will shrink liquifity.
Current war might be stop and russia ukraine will go pause or maybe make peace agreement.
When money supply stops there is no money for war.
So ecb is about to protect value of euro to hike rates so war and also pandemics can not coming when central banks will make rates higher.
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July 01, 2022, 04:36:28 AM
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Current war might be stop and russia ukraine will go pause or maybe make peace agreement.
When money supply stops there is no money for war.


This is something that everyone in the world wants to happen immediately. But how to stop this war, I see no sign that either side is willing to negotiate to end this futile battle. Tensions escalate as Nato is trying to cut off Russia's oil revenue so that Russia can no longer fund the war, but that doesn't seem to affect Russia, Ukraine won't have any deal because they are fighting to protect their country, their citizens.
Inflation will continue to rise and the Fed is poised to raise interest rates higher.

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July 01, 2022, 06:21:51 AM
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I am not sure if it is as the OP says. There is logic to the argument, but to begin with, NATO countries are not in direct conflict with Russia, they are providing arms to Ukraine, and that in their total budgets is not a very large amount. So I don't see the correlation between rate hikes/liquidity withdrawal and the war having to end.

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July 01, 2022, 09:42:27 AM
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To make it more simple war needs money but money comes from debt so debt comes from lower rates.
War= bullish markets and lower rates.
No war= economy down higher rates.
Its not the general rule but only now becouse things have gone too far economic and monetary system is this is what couse all of this.
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July 01, 2022, 03:19:34 PM
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I am not sure if it is as the OP says. There is logic to the argument, but to begin with, NATO countries are not in direct conflict with Russia, they are providing arms to Ukraine, and that in their total budgets is not a very large amount. So I don't see the correlation between rate hikes/liquidity withdrawal and the war having to end.

Yeah I think op is forgetting about the pandemic causing inflation due to grants/furlough by the government (and other things).

Countries haven't provided much in weapons cost wise (except a few countries on the border of Ukraine which have given a lot considering their size) and most training being offered probably isn't costing them anything more than normal as they'd already have to pay for training of their own personnel.

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July 01, 2022, 11:31:51 PM
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There will be no end to the war, according to the Kremlin's fantasies and schemes. Putin's last sending of his mats to Ukraine to induce negotiations and the signing of a "peace treaty" failed miserably. Ukraine will liberate its land, and will destroy the aggressor on its land!
Also, the whole world has already realized that it was not dealing with Russia, a country with which you can do business, but with a vile and vile terrorist! Who, in order to satisfy their idiotic complexes, is ready to kill and destroy. And yes - sanctions (only not NATO, but adequate countries) are aimed at strangling the economy of a terrorist country, its demilitarization, denazification.

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July 01, 2022, 11:55:20 PM
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There will be no end to the war, according to the Kremlin's fantasies and schemes. Putin's last sending of his mats to Ukraine to induce negotiations and the signing of a "peace treaty" failed miserably. Ukraine will liberate its land, and will destroy the aggressor on its land!
Also, the whole world has already realized that it was not dealing with Russia, a country with which you can do business, but with a vile and vile terrorist! Who, in order to satisfy their idiotic complexes, is ready to kill and destroy. And yes - sanctions (only not NATO, but adequate countries) are aimed at strangling the economy of a terrorist country, its demilitarization, denazification.

Ukraine is fighting an unwinnable war but behind them is the NATO that keeps pushing them to die. Once Zelensky will have a clear mind and start thinking he is just adding to the problem that Ukrainians are worrying about, he'll come to his senses. Russia has bigger to offer than what NATO is providing them.

What will EU get from this Ukraine that is the most corrupt country in the region? Ukraine isn't even a democratic country to begin with but their media keeps shouting they are.
They are willing to make all countries suffer all because of this war and this is just one country that they were oppressing.

Venezuela, Cuba and all else in the Latin countries and Arab countries are now united to break NATO apart because we all see how bloc is making us all poor by occupying countries in the guise of  protecting oil fields and managing resources of these poor countries. Its them the terrorist.

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July 02, 2022, 09:45:12 AM
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There will be no end to the war, according to the Kremlin's fantasies and schemes. Putin's last sending of his mats to Ukraine to induce negotiations and the signing of a "peace treaty" failed miserably. Ukraine will liberate its land, and will destroy the aggressor on its land!
Also, the whole world has already realized that it was not dealing with Russia, a country with which you can do business, but with a vile and vile terrorist! Who, in order to satisfy their idiotic complexes, is ready to kill and destroy. And yes - sanctions (only not NATO, but adequate countries) are aimed at strangling the economy of a terrorist country, its demilitarization, denazification.

Ukraine is fighting an unwinnable war but behind them is the NATO that keeps pushing them to die. Once Zelensky will have a clear mind and start thinking he is just adding to the problem that Ukrainians are worrying about, he'll come to his senses. Russia has bigger to offer than what NATO is providing them.

What will EU get from this Ukraine that is the most corrupt country in the region? Ukraine isn't even a democratic country to begin with but their media keeps shouting they are.
They are willing to make all countries suffer all because of this war and this is just one country that they were oppressing.

Venezuela, Cuba and all else in the Latin countries and Arab countries are now united to break NATO apart because we all see how bloc is making us all poor by occupying countries in the guise of  protecting oil fields and managing resources of these poor countries. Its them the terrorist.

While in your fantasies "NATO is pushing us to death", rashiZm and the "simple RuZZian people" have come to our land since 2014 and are killing us, destroying villages and cities, destroying everything they can reach! We have the right to defend our land, we have the right to live, we have the right to choose how we live and with whom to build relationships, and we have the right to destroy terrorists and their accomplices. This war will end with the victory of the people of Ukraine and its friends! Our grandfathers destroyed fascism, we will destroy rashiZm!

About Venezuela, Cuba and other countries - a very good joke!  Grin Grin Grin
Venezuela, in agreement with the United States, sends its oil to Europe to replace the oil of terrorists.
Cuba has chosen a pro-Western vector of development - the ideology of the poor and lawlessness, which the USSR and then Russia imposed on them, has ended - now the population of Cuba will receive all the opportunities of the developed world and will be able to live like people! I am sure you have not been there, but only heard propaganda programs, I recommend that you go and see this "socialist paradise". Eastern countries - they themselves buy weapons from NATO countries and enjoy their support. In a word - do not fill your mentality with propaganda crap Smiley

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July 02, 2022, 11:50:46 AM
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Current war might be stop and russia ukraine will go pause or maybe make peace agreement.
IMHO, we're still quite far from seeing the end of the war of Russia and Ukraine. With the last news that I've seen, Finland is about to step in.
When money supply stops there is no money for war.
There is still, and tremendous of money is being made when there's a war and everybody knows about that. The rates will continue to hike and it seems unstoppable but I believe that there's an end on it but for now, we're not yet seeing it.

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Ukraine is fighting an unwinnable war but behind them is the NATO that keeps pushing them to die. Once Zelensky will have a clear mind and start thinking he is just adding to the problem that Ukrainians are worrying about, he'll come to his senses. Russia has bigger to offer than what NATO is providing them.

What will EU get from this Ukraine that is the most corrupt country in the region? Ukraine isn't even a democratic country to begin with but their media keeps shouting they are.
They are willing to make all countries suffer all because of this war and this is just one country that they were oppressing.

Venezuela, Cuba and all else in the Latin countries and Arab countries are now united to break NATO apart because we all see how bloc is making us all poor by occupying countries in the guise of  protecting oil fields and managing resources of these poor countries. Its them the terrorist.
You can't argue though that Russia is diplomatically acting more and more similar to the facist Nazi Germany of the 1930s, expanding eastward (or in this case westward) to occupy more land they believe to be theirs.

That is why its important to check the Russian advance because if they are not restrained now, then that's basically demonstrating that: "See, you can occupy the country ad the Western Powers won't do anything about it." (Hitler said something similar after occupyig part of Czeckoslovakia).

And the advance would continue all the way up to a second Poland-esque country which NATO would not surrender without a world war (which is exactly how WWII started). That is why its important not to allow Russia to occupy Ukraine.

And many Arab and Latin countries are backing Russia's policies not because they like them, but because the US foreign policy is not favorable to them. It's not like you can expect a country to adopt a policy just because US wants it to. Just look at Bashar al Asad of Syria for example, without Russia's help, his regime (as bad as it might be to civilians) would be smashed into smithereens by now. Ditto Eritrea, Iran, Turkey, etc.

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July 02, 2022, 12:45:28 PM
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Ukraine is fighting an unwinnable war but behind them is the NATO that keeps pushing them to die. Once Zelensky will have a clear mind and start thinking he is just adding to the problem that Ukrainians are worrying about, he'll come to his senses. Russia has bigger to offer than what NATO is providing them.

What will EU get from this Ukraine that is the most corrupt country in the region? Ukraine isn't even a democratic country to begin with but their media keeps shouting they are.
They are willing to make all countries suffer all because of this war and this is just one country that they were oppressing.

Venezuela, Cuba and all else in the Latin countries and Arab countries are now united to break NATO apart because we all see how bloc is making us all poor by occupying countries in the guise of  protecting oil fields and managing resources of these poor countries. Its them the terrorist.
Ukraine is a pawn on the chessboard that Nato uses against Russia, if Zelensky had been sober, things would not have turned out in this cruel way.
This is Nato's war with Russia but they have borrowed Ukrainian land as a place to fight and it is the Ukrainian people who are suffering the consequences of what Nato calls justice.
BRICS is growing stronger and will certainly be a counterweight to Nato in the near future, the world economic axis will gradually shift to no longer depend too much on the dominance of the EU.

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Ukraine is fighting an unwinnable war but behind them is the NATO that keeps pushing them to die. Once Zelensky will have a clear mind and start thinking he is just adding to the problem that Ukrainians are worrying about, he'll come to his senses. Russia has bigger to offer than what NATO is providing them.

What will EU get from this Ukraine that is the most corrupt country in the region? Ukraine isn't even a democratic country to begin with but their media keeps shouting they are.
They are willing to make all countries suffer all because of this war and this is just one country that they were oppressing.

Venezuela, Cuba and all else in the Latin countries and Arab countries are now united to break NATO apart because we all see how bloc is making us all poor by occupying countries in the guise of  protecting oil fields and managing resources of these poor countries. Its them the terrorist.
Ukraine is a pawn on the chessboard that Nato uses against Russia, if Zelensky had been sober, things would not have turned out in this cruel way.
This is Nato's war with Russia but they have borrowed Ukrainian land as a place to fight and it is the Ukrainian people who are suffering the consequences of what Nato calls justice.
BRICS is growing stronger and will certainly be a counterweight to Nato in the near future, the world economic axis will gradually shift to no longer depend too much on the dominance of the EU.

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Ukraine is fighting an unwinnable war but behind them is the NATO that keeps pushing them to die. Once Zelensky will have a clear mind and start thinking he is just adding to the problem that Ukrainians are worrying about, he'll come to his senses. Russia has bigger to offer than what NATO is providing them.

What will EU get from this Ukraine that is the most corrupt country in the region? Ukraine isn't even a democratic country to begin with but their media keeps shouting they are.
They are willing to make all countries suffer all because of this war and this is just one country that they were oppressing.

Venezuela, Cuba and all else in the Latin countries and Arab countries are now united to break NATO apart because we all see how bloc is making us all poor by occupying countries in the guise of  protecting oil fields and managing resources of these poor countries. Its them the terrorist.
Ukraine is a pawn on the chessboard that Nato uses against Russia, if Zelensky had been sober, things would not have turned out in this cruel way.
This is Nato's war with Russia but they have borrowed Ukrainian land as a place to fight and it is the Ukrainian people who are suffering the consequences of what Nato calls justice.
BRICS is growing stronger and will certainly be a counterweight to Nato in the near future, the world economic axis will gradually shift to no longer depend too much on the dominance of the EU.

Wall street pawns all of them Wink only who rule is ws nothing else matters

When the wealthy people in wall street thinks they could profit in a war against a foreign country, they'd approve it. Economic gain is always going to be a priority.  And I mean Taiwan is thousands of miles away from US but they are now talking about millions of USD worth of military equipment to be sold to Taiwan.

We are in the brink of WW3 just a France declaring to support Taiwan. Its a country so far, no Taiwanese probably ever visits there. If they are concern about chips, its not like the Chinese will not sell every products they have to anyone. They sell whatever they have to make money. But its good that US and China's defends minister are in talks in the Asia's premier security summit. There's hope for WW3 to not happen yet.

Ukraine is fighting an unwinnable war but behind them is the NATO that keeps pushing them to die. Once Zelensky will have a clear mind and start thinking he is just adding to the problem that Ukrainians are worrying about, he'll come to his senses. Russia has bigger to offer than what NATO is providing them.

What will EU get from this Ukraine that is the most corrupt country in the region? Ukraine isn't even a democratic country to begin with but their media keeps shouting they are.
They are willing to make all countries suffer all because of this war and this is just one country that they were oppressing.

Venezuela, Cuba and all else in the Latin countries and Arab countries are now united to break NATO apart because we all see how bloc is making us all poor by occupying countries in the guise of  protecting oil fields and managing resources of these poor countries. Its them the terrorist.
You can't argue though that Russia is diplomatically acting more and more similar to the facist Nazi Germany of the 1930s, expanding eastward (or in this case westward) to occupy more land they believe to be theirs.

That is why its important to check the Russian advance because if they are not restrained now, then that's basically demonstrating that: "See, you can occupy the country ad the Western Powers won't do anything about it." (Hitler said something similar after occupyig part of Czeckoslovakia).

And the advance would continue all the way up to a second Poland-esque country which NATO would not surrender without a world war (which is exactly how WWII started). That is why its important not to allow Russia to occupy Ukraine.

And many Arab and Latin countries are backing Russia's policies not because they like them, but because the US foreign policy is not favorable to them. It's not like you can expect a country to adopt a policy just because US wants it to. Just look at Bashar al Asad of Syria for example, without Russia's help, his regime (as bad as it might be to civilians) would be smashed into smithereens by now. Ditto Eritrea, Iran, Turkey, etc.


The difference today is  that news spreads widely compare what happened when it was Adolf. Hitler  wouldn't attack Poland if they weren't blocked as well.
Right now the strategy was revived which Russia's railway to Kaliningrad was also blocked,  what choice do they have this time?  Lithuania's spokesperson was quick to react its was Nato's directive.

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Ukraine is fighting an unwinnable war but behind them is the NATO that keeps pushing them to die. Once Zelensky will have a clear mind and start thinking he is just adding to the problem that Ukrainians are worrying about, he'll come to his senses. Russia has bigger to offer than what NATO is providing them.

What will EU get from this Ukraine that is the most corrupt country in the region? Ukraine isn't even a democratic country to begin with but their media keeps shouting they are.
They are willing to make all countries suffer all because of this war and this is just one country that they were oppressing.

Venezuela, Cuba and all else in the Latin countries and Arab countries are now united to break NATO apart because we all see how bloc is making us all poor by occupying countries in the guise of  protecting oil fields and managing resources of these poor countries. Its them the terrorist.
Ukraine is a pawn on the chessboard that Nato uses against Russia, if Zelensky had been sober, things would not have turned out in this cruel way.
This is Nato's war with Russia but they have borrowed Ukrainian land as a place to fight and it is the Ukrainian people who are suffering the consequences of what Nato calls justice.
BRICS is growing stronger and will certainly be a counterweight to Nato in the near future, the world economic axis will gradually shift to no longer depend too much on the dominance of the EU.

Supporters of the "Russian world" have a unique logic! If Russia in 2014, before Ukraine chose its own path, attacks Ukraine, occupies part of the territories, kills the local population, invents completely fake excuses - this is NATO attacking Russia Smiley When a criminal kills you or your relatives on the street, remember your arguments, and understand that it’s not the criminal who kills you, it’s the resident of the neighboring region who decided to teach you how to live correctly and according to his rules. And no appeals to the court and the police - they want to kill you, not a criminal! Smiley

PS precisely for this reason, the propagandists of the Russian world must end their lives on the gallows, like the propagandists of Nazi Germany!

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Ukraine is fighting an unwinnable war but behind them is the NATO that keeps pushing them to die. Once Zelensky will have a clear mind and start thinking he is just adding to the problem that Ukrainians are worrying about, he'll come to his senses. Russia has bigger to offer than what NATO is providing them.

What will EU get from this Ukraine that is the most corrupt country in the region? Ukraine isn't even a democratic country to begin with but their media keeps shouting they are.
They are willing to make all countries suffer all because of this war and this is just one country that they were oppressing.

Venezuela, Cuba and all else in the Latin countries and Arab countries are now united to break NATO apart because we all see how bloc is making us all poor by occupying countries in the guise of  protecting oil fields and managing resources of these poor countries. Its them the terrorist.
Ukraine is a pawn on the chessboard that Nato uses against Russia, if Zelensky had been sober, things would not have turned out in this cruel way.
This is Nato's war with Russia but they have borrowed Ukrainian land as a place to fight and it is the Ukrainian people who are suffering the consequences of what Nato calls justice.
BRICS is growing stronger and will certainly be a counterweight to Nato in the near future, the world economic axis will gradually shift to no longer depend too much on the dominance of the EU.

Supporters of the "Russian world" have a unique logic! If Russia in 2014, before Ukraine chose its own path, attacks Ukraine, occupies part of the territories, kills the local population, invents completely fake excuses - this is NATO attacking Russia Smiley When a criminal kills you or your relatives on the street, remember your arguments, and understand that it’s not the criminal who kills you, it’s the resident of the neighboring region who decided to teach you how to live correctly and according to his rules. And no appeals to the court and the police - they want to kill you, not a criminal! Smiley

PS precisely for this reason, the propagandists of the Russian world must end their lives on the gallows, like the propagandists of Nazi Germany!


No idea who good or bad but war needs money if central banks do rate hikes then no money and no money for war.
Simply if u got no money to fund war then it aint gona last long no matter how much someonewant to but if money shortages then its obvous that no war.
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Ukraine is fighting an unwinnable war but behind them is the NATO that keeps pushing them to die. Once Zelensky will have a clear mind and start thinking he is just adding to the problem that Ukrainians are worrying about, he'll come to his senses. Russia has bigger to offer than what NATO is providing them.

What will EU get from this Ukraine that is the most corrupt country in the region? Ukraine isn't even a democratic country to begin with but their media keeps shouting they are.
They are willing to make all countries suffer all because of this war and this is just one country that they were oppressing.

Venezuela, Cuba and all else in the Latin countries and Arab countries are now united to break NATO apart because we all see how bloc is making us all poor by occupying countries in the guise of  protecting oil fields and managing resources of these poor countries. Its them the terrorist.
Ukraine is a pawn on the chessboard that Nato uses against Russia, if Zelensky had been sober, things would not have turned out in this cruel way.
This is Nato's war with Russia but they have borrowed Ukrainian land as a place to fight and it is the Ukrainian people who are suffering the consequences of what Nato calls justice.
BRICS is growing stronger and will certainly be a counterweight to Nato in the near future, the world economic axis will gradually shift to no longer depend too much on the dominance of the EU.

Supporters of the "Russian world" have a unique logic! If Russia in 2014, before Ukraine chose its own path, attacks Ukraine, occupies part of the territories, kills the local population, invents completely fake excuses - this is NATO attacking Russia Smiley When a criminal kills you or your relatives on the street, remember your arguments, and understand that it’s not the criminal who kills you, it’s the resident of the neighboring region who decided to teach you how to live correctly and according to his rules. And no appeals to the court and the police - they want to kill you, not a criminal! Smiley

PS precisely for this reason, the propagandists of the Russian world must end their lives on the gallows, like the propagandists of Nazi Germany!


No idea who good or bad but war needs money if central banks do rate hikes then no money and no money for war.
Simply if u got no money to fund war then it aint gona last long no matter how much someonewant to but if money shortages then its obvous that no war.

Yes, in general I agree with you. But this was 100% acceptable in the Middle Ages, when the kingdom went against the kingdom, and the one who was better armed, who had more supplies, who was more cunning, won. And having money was almost the key. Ukraine can hardly be called the richest country in the world Smiley Although not the poorest, so that the Kremlin propaganda does not lie from the TV screens. In this case, the picture is slightly different - the aggressor is Russia, and it turned out to be a stupid and primitive aggressor. Why ? Because they lied to themselves that their army is "the second most powerful in the world", "in Ukraine, most of the population loves Russia", "Ukraine will not last 3 weeks." For 5 months already, the “second army in the world” has been suffering huge losses, losing all its potential, and very much dependent on money, which it has every day, or even an hour, less and less. And Ukraine, which does not have the world's largest hydrocarbon reserves, is conducting effective defensive, and already offensive military operations, due to the support and assistance of adequate countries. The modern world is not the "isolated kingdoms" of the Middle Ages! Although some are just trying to isolate themselves from the whole world, these are countries such as North Korea, Russia ....

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current war and everything now has a correlation, because of the energy source of life. if we can control the energy we can pretty much control everything after covid hit entire world and economic still at suffering now we have this i hope all of this will end up soon

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