Iranus - Changed hands or not?

[Solosanz]

Username: Iranus

This user registered since 2016, based on his post history, he's mostly active in Bitcoin discussion related (e.g. Bitcoin, wallet, mining, development, exchange, speculation etc) until 2017, even though he did ever post on gambling board, but it's just few posts only. Then this user inactive and comeback on 2020, but most of his post on 2020 until right now is full of gambling boards, he did post on Bitcoin discussion related, but it's just a common sense and not high quality post like when he was 2016-2017.

His last post on 2017 is December 17, 2017

On January 31, 2017 he opened a thread to sell Bitcointalk account

According to BPIP, this is the security and moderator log about his account

11/12/2019 2:53:12 PM    woke up
2/2/2020 5:48:56 PM    password reset via email
11/18/2020 6:23:21 AM    woke up

His first post on 2020 is February 19, 2020

If anyone want to read his post on 2016-2017, read the pages from 173-91

Considering if he switch from Bitcoin discussion to Gambling discussion because he joined on casino signature campaign. I find this is strange since he's like a different person based on the quality his post on Bitcoin discussion between 2016-2017 and 2020-until now. What do you think about this?

Some archive of his old posts
1. https://archive.ph/rzJdL
2. https://archive.ph/Ci4o3
3. https://archive.ph/SfIDO
4. https://archive.ph/uHIfQ
5. https://archive.ph/wM2he

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[Panglima Perang]

LOL 

How bad your investigating about Username: Iranus account? he was active on signature service campaign need to post on gambling, why he has post on Bitcoin discussion, if keep post on bitcoin discussion forum he will not get payment and kick from Duelbit Signature campaign.

[YOSHIE]

Considering if he switch from Bitcoin discussion to Gambling discussion because he joined on casino signature campaign. I find this is strange since he's like a different person based on the quality his post on Bitcoin discussion between 2016-2017 and 2020-until now. What do you think about this?

I think so 2016-2017 he never touched the gambling board, mostly speculation and Bitcoin posts, I tried to check @Iranus post history, he was involved in selling accounts.

Looks like @Iranus, it's been sold, as I quoted.

I would buy PM with Sr account to prove that you have it.

But, i didn't find any other, which account is he selling, @Iranus or is there any other account which is rated sr or Hero.

To be sure, selling the account is not recommended and a lot of losses from other parties.

maybe other members can judge in a case like this.

[Iranus]

To be sure, selling the account is not recommended and a lot of losses from other parties.

This is a very old story, I have given up all this since I realized that it is risky for the community.

I think so 2016-2017 he never touched the gambling board, mostly speculation and Bitcoin posts,

Due to the bearish market, most of the campaigns were based on gambling, so I became more and more accustomed to gambling and sports, that's all.

[Solosanz]

LOL 

How bad your investigating about Username: Iranus account? he was active on signature service campaign need to post on gambling, why he has post on Bitcoin discussion, if keep post on bitcoin discussion forum he will not get payment and kick from Duelbit Signature campaign.

Did duelbits campaign has a rule if posted on Bitcoin discussion, any participants will got kicked? prove it.
Did duelbits campaign ask all posts must be posted on gambling boards each week? No, it's 10/20, which is you can post in other boards too.

But, i didn't find any other, which account is he selling, @Iranus or is there any other account which is rated sr or Hero.

To be sure, selling the account is not recommended and a lot of losses from other parties.

maybe other members can judge in a case like this.

Yeah there's no more information, but my assumption is this account.

Due to the bearish market, most of the campaigns were based on gambling, so I became more and more accustomed to gambling and sports, that's all.

But the sudden switch from Bitcoin boards to gambling board is suspicious IMO and another thing about the quality post itself. If you're a natural poster on Bitcoin boards and follow the development etc before, I don't think you would forget about Bitcoin knowledge in the next 3-5 years and avoid to post in Bitcoin boards.

However this is still a suspect, I accept criticism or anything to prove I was wrong.

[The Cryptovator]

I am not a regular poster on the gambling section, what if I start posting in the gambling section now? Will you consider this account to change hands in case I am forced to make a post on the gambling section due to the signature campaign?

Changing the password or posting on the gambling section doesn't prove the account changed hands. Need more solid evidence to tag the account.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

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I am not a fan of digging accounts and I really do not encourage it too. If you are correct then good job but if you are not correct then this is simply an insult for the user you are digging up. People used to do it long ago when the merit system started but they started to get bored.

If this is really something gives you pleasure then sooner or later someone else will do the same for you and you can be in the same problem easily. Before posting such thing, have you attempted to chat in PM with the user to find out yourself what happened first? They should have given you an answer. A lot of time your curiosity could be served only just by have person to person conversation.

[DanWalker]

I am not a regular poster on the gambling section, what if I start posting in the gambling section now? Will you consider this account to change hands in case I am forced to make a post on the gambling section due to the signature campaign?
Changing the password or posting on the gambling section doesn't prove the account changed hands. Need more solid evidence to tag the account.

Before 2021 I never post on the gambling section, But after that 100% of my posts were on the gambling board, lol.
Nowadays I also try to make posts on Bitcoin & Altcoin section cause it helps me to stay up to date about the crypto world.
When I applied for the Stake Signature campaign they told me to make posts on the gambling section for at least 1 month then they will accept me.
I think it's a very simple reason people changes habit cause the maximum of the campaign is Gambling onboard nowadays.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I am not a regular poster on the gambling section, what if I start posting in the gambling section now? Will you consider this account to change hands in case I am forced to make a post on the gambling section due to the signature campaign?

Changing the password or posting on the gambling section doesn't prove the account changed hands. Need more solid evidence to tag the account.

Correct on all of that.  Being in a campaign where you have to post in certain sections can definitely influence where you post--whether you like or know anything about those sections or not.

I have not looked into this situation in detail, but one thing I can say is that if there's a scenario like this where a member has woken up after a long time, joined a campaign and so forth, check the style of that member's posts.  If there's a language switch or a shift from good English to typical bounty hunter English, that's a dead giveaway and I've seen it many times.

As far as Iranus is concerned, the evidence I've read so far does point to the account changing hands, but I'm not 100% convinced and thus am not going to tag him.

I am not a fan of digging accounts and I really do not encourage it too.

Then don't do it.  But please don't discourage others from doing it.  My own detective work in the past has turned up lots of sold/hacked accounts, and you've got to be aware that there's too much bullshit going on in the forum that if it weren't for those members delving into suspicious accounts, people would be getting away with everything under the sun.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Then don't do it.  But please don't discourage others from doing it.  My own detective work in the past has turned up lots of sold/hacked accounts, and you've got to be aware that there's too much bullshit going on in the forum that if it weren't for those members delving into suspicious accounts, people would be getting away with everything under the sun.

I don't know what was your reasons not continuing with the detective work you used to do in the past. But I saw many users to be in trouble because of doing that. They continue, keep making angry users against them, at some point the opponents get opportunity to get their revenge. Everything creates a bad environment and users start hating each others.

You and me could disagree but I think it's better to contact someone via PM and tell them what you think. Give then time to reply you. If you think it was not satisfying then ask public opinion.

If someone has changed their posting habit and regular in gambling board with wearing a gambling signature then it make sense that they are following the signature rules and posting to fulfill their weekly posting limit. Not everyone has genuine interest to post regularly.

[Panglima Perang]

I am so shy what did by Solosanz, he looks stupid. What should did before joining on signature service bounty campaign, all signature service need us active on gambling board if want accepted with service signature. By the way if some one left their habit and active on gambling board post does all account changed hands? how if Iranus can proof with sign message and show he is the real owner and his account not change hand, will you give back his good reputation. You must responsibility if account you report not changed hand like moderator close Solosanz active and can participants on reputation thread. He made bad investigating and not get solid proof how to make Iranus have changed hands.

Check here

If you do not usually post in the gambling section, do not apply for this campaign.

[yahoo62278]

@Solosanz what is your motivation to keep searching out these accounts and calling them out for various reasons? Are they users that have pissed you off in some way? Users that you seen scam? I'm very curious.

What about you? You joined the forum in April of 2020, posted for a month or so and in June of 2020 disappeared until 2022. Have you posted proof somewhere that you are the original owner of the Solosanz account?

I have no idea of Iranus and also no reason for him to be on my radar that I'm aware of. So aside from trying to gain a quick reputation, please let us know your motivation.

[Rikafip]

But the sudden switch from Bitcoin boards to gambling board is suspicious IMO and another thing about the quality post itself. If you're a natural poster on Bitcoin boards and follow the development etc before, I don't think you would forget about Bitcoin knowledge in the next 3-5 years and avoid to post in Bitcoin boards.

Buddy, half of the gambling signature campaign participants are writing in gambling board only because the campaign requirements and not because they are really interested in the subjects. On top of that, since majority of campaigns are gambling oriented and I don't see this trend changing anytime soon, people simply prefer to write there even more than required quota as they want to secure their places in the future campaigns and there's no better way to do that than having majority (if not all) of posts written there. That's just reality of this forum, people adjusting posting habits based on signature campaign rules.

However this is still a suspect, I accept criticism or anything to prove I was wrong.

You have to provide the evidence and not the other way around. Since you haven't tagged him yet I guess you also don't think that evidence you provided is convincing enough.

[Solosanz]

If this is really something gives you pleasure then sooner or later someone else will do the same for you and you can be in the same problem easily.

I know, but if the user isn't done anything wrong, I believe people will think same.

Before posting such thing, have you attempted to chat in PM with the user to find out yourself what happened first? They should have given you an answer. A lot of time your curiosity could be served only just by have person to person conversation.

No, I wouldn't, that's like asking a scammer to admit he was scam, a scammer will do anything to deny the fact. I would be better to ask other users who active in busting scam to know their opinion, but some people I think doesn't want to get such PM, that's why I opened this thread to know other user reaction rather than I cherry pick some users.

As far as Iranus is concerned, the evidence I've read so far does point to the account changing hands, but I'm not 100% convinced and thus am not going to tag him.

Yep, we have same opinion here.

how if Iranus can proof with sign message and show he is the real owner and his account not change hand, will you give back his good reputation.

Can you find his address on 2016-2017? if you can find it and he can sign a message, then this case will closed.

@Solosanz what is your motivation to keep searching out these accounts and calling them out for various reasons? Are they users that have pissed you off in some way? Users that you seen scam? I'm very curious.

What about you? You joined the forum in April of 2020, posted for a month or so and in June of 2020 disappeared until 2022. Have you posted proof somewhere that you are the original owner of the Solosanz account?

I have no idea of Iranus and also no reason for him to be on my radar that I'm aware of. So aside from trying to gain a quick reputation, please let us know your motivation.

I'm not disappeared for the 2 years, but I try to familiarize this forum, reading people posts and thinking what I can do to contribute on this forum. Then I found some report from scam/spam buster in this forum and I choose to follow their path. That's why I searched some accounts if I found they're breaking forum rules/campaign, then I make a report in this board.

I'm not trying to gain a quick reputation, I never ask anyone to leave me a positive trust or include me in their trust list.

Iranus has no intention to scam anyone so far and he never make me angry in any cases.

You have to provide the evidence and not the other way around. Since you haven't tagged him yet I guess you also don't think that evidence you provided is convincing enough.

Yep, it's not 100% since there's no proof about connection. I think after making some suspect, many users will continue to find another proof to prove it's really changed hands, but seems many people disagree with this.

Should we not create a report if the proof isn't completely 100% convinced?

[Z-tight]

No, I wouldn't, that's like asking a scammer to admit he was scam, a scammer will do anything to deny the fact. I would be better to ask other users who active in busting scam to know their opinion, but some people I think doesn't want to get such PM, that's why I opened this thread to know other user reaction rather than I cherry pick some users.

Of course it goes without saying that if a member is a scammer, or is posting links to suspicious website, or malwares that can get other members scammed and hacked, you shouldn't send them any pm, but report and make a topic about it. Iranus' case is none of that. It is entirely up to you though, but if you do not really care that a user gets kicked out of their campaign and gets tagged for something, you can send them a pm to notify them of anything you notice in their post history, or to tell them that their posting pattern of quoting posts and returning back to it to fill it up is wrong like the previous case you reported, and they should desist from doing such, especially if that member has been in the forum for long and has ranked up. If the member is headstrong to change & still flouts that advice, you can now make a report against them.

Can you find his address on 2016-2017? if you can find it and he can sign a message, then this case will closed.

Iranus does not even have to sign any message for the case to be closed, they already told their own side of the story, i think every member can decide to sign a message to prove anything or not.

Should we not create a report if the proof isn't completely 100% convinced?

Your effort is so good Solosanz, but in my opinion yes.

[YOSHIE]

The fact of a case like this 'without clear evidence' doesn't stick in my memory, as other members have said, I've seen a lot of language change accounts and post history, but it's not something that can be taken as negative and vice versa.

Except: as I've seen: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5215426.0, Proven, valid.

Bottom line: Nothing is suspicious to you, regardless of your posting history, don't worry, it's not in our nature to judge something without valid evidence.

This is a very old story, I have given up all this since I realized that it is risky for the community.

Everyone has a bad past, as long as they have the will to change and stick to the rules, there's nothing wrong.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Can you find his address on 2016-2017? if you can find it and he can sign a message, then this case will closed.

Yes, he has one bitcoin wallet number for 2017. Although this message has been deleted and is archived in the forum, I think that for many of the doubters here, signing from this wallet would be good proof of account ownership.


https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=1XpJRma2pY9CjGdfQPEprohiFETrnbU4J

However, you can predict that the story of the loss of this wallet and all the other excuses will begin.


Another strange behavior for the owner of this account is the very deletion of their posts. And as you can see, this is not a very small amount.



If the person was originally the owner, and he did not have reports with bounty companies, as is usually done to remove garbage from the forum, why would he remove so much information?

[Rikafip]

Should we not create a report if the proof isn't completely 100% convinced?

Of course you can create the thread without providing 100% bulletproof evidence, I was just referring to your statement that we have to prove you wrong, while its other way around.

You are right though that his post quality regressed which is a weird thing. I mean, people usually improve thought the years, but ever since he started writing exclusively in gambling board, his post quality went down noticeably. Whether that's caused by account changing hands, or because he is writing in board that he knows little about, I don't know.

Yes, he has one bitcoin wallet number for 2017. Although this message has been deleted and is archived in the forum, I think that for many of the doubters here, signing from this wallet would be good proof of account ownership.

However, you can predict that the story of the loss of this wallet and all the other excuses will begin.

Speaking from personal experience, I wouldn't see this type of excuse as a bullshit as I don't have access to several old bitcoin addresses (it was on purpose btw, I just got rid of them). I know its not the smartest thing, but some people don't care much about these things.

[Maidak]

Yes, he has one bitcoin wallet number for 2017. Although this message has been deleted and is archived in the forum, I think that for many of the doubters here, signing from this wallet would be good proof of account ownership.
However, you can predict that the story of the loss of this wallet and all the other excuses will begin.

Speaking from personal experience, I wouldn't see this type of excuse as a bullshit as I don't have access to several old bitcoin addresses (it was on purpose btw, I just got rid of them). I know its not the smartest thing, but some people don't care much about these things.

Holy crap!
Now the real drama is started, hahah
A few days ago some people claimed why I do not use my old wallet, why posting behavior changed bla bla,, lol

I told them gimme a minute I'm not at home, but they tagged me.
Fortunately, I imported some old addresses on coinbase which saved me.

I'm just being social butterfly with a lot, otherwise, I wouldn't have signed the message.

However, you can predict that the story of the loss of this wallet and all the other excuses will begin.

sickk haha this is not a very surprising thing.
I have used over 100 wallets, most of which have been deleted.

Should we not create a report if the proof isn't completely 100% convinced?

or because he is writing in board that he knows little about, I don't know.

sweeeet, this also happened to me lol 
Posting in the gambling section was a little uncomfortable for me, time management is another fact, now improved a lot, 


If he comes to do business with me I will tell him to sign the message otherwise it is irrelevant to ask someone to sign the message.
I can use neutral feedback or a personal diary if I think someone's activity is suspicious.

[Timelord2067]

Iranus does not even have to sign any message for the case to be closed, they already told their own side of the story, i think every member can decide to sign a message to prove anything or not.

There was a thread titled "why yes I did change my password" or something similar, but I never bookmarked it.  Essentially a user had innocently changed their password - flaming torches and pitchforks ensued and the DT1 trolls foamed at the mouth thinking the account had changed hands.

But it hadn't.


Case in point:

However this is still a suspect, I accept criticism or anything to prove I was wrong.

In other-words smear the mud around and hope that some of it sticks.