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July 03, 2022, 07:13:26 AM
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That unfortunately would not stop a bad actor from uploading a fake version to the play store, any BBT user unaware of the official link/thread could potentially fall for the scam.
Using this logic there shouldn't be any apps whatsoever, because what's the point if someone can upload fake app on Google PlayStore. Some people will just get scammed eventually and there is nothing that we can do about it.



While I personally don't miss having bitcointalk app and I am used to browsing on mobile phone, I do think that it would be a good addition for all those younger generations who are used to have that when accessing forum. On top of that, there are a lot of people from 3rd world countries that can't afford PC and are doing everything on mobile phones, so that would be useful for them as well. With that being said, I don't think that mobile version will happen anytime soon, if ever.

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July 03, 2022, 07:32:35 AM
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That unfortunately would not stop a bad actor from uploading a fake version to the play store, any BBT user unaware of the official link/thread could potentially fall for the scam.
No, it wouldn't. I am sorry if I sound like a prick, but if Bitcointalk members get tricked into downloading a fake app via the Play Store, a YouTube video, or social media without checking how and where to get the official one right here on the forum, they only have themselves to blame. Software should only be downloaded from official sources. That is true for crypto wallets as much as anything else. The official source for a Bitcointalk mobile app should be Bitcointalk.

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July 03, 2022, 05:00:19 PM
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It is a posibility, but it would be better if nobody had to compromise any of their accounts whatsoever.  Wink

I get what you're saying — but it's a bad idea to hinder innovation(though it's just an app, I know) just because a small minority could get in trouble.

And I agree with you. It is not my intention to stop innovation or anything like that, just try to give a little reminder of the risk associated with such innovation.  Wink

I mean, this whole forum and community is about Bitcoin a cryptocurrency, isn't it?
It would be weird from a person into Bitcoin to go against collective progress, which Bitcoin is a good example of.

I'd be ok with an app for the forum.


That unfortunately would not stop a bad actor from uploading a fake version to the play store, any BBT user unaware of the official link/thread could potentially fall for the scam.
Using this logic there shouldn't be any apps whatsoever, because what's the point if someone can upload fake app on Google PlayStore. Some people will just get scammed eventually and there is nothing that we can do about it.

Right, as I said. I am not against an app for us, forum users.
I just felt the need to point out one of the disadvantages of it for the sake having both the proc and cons on the table.

That unfortunately would not stop a bad actor from uploading a fake version to the play store, any BBT user unaware of the official link/thread could potentially fall for the scam.


No, it wouldn't. I am sorry if I sound like a prick, but if Bitcointalk members get tricked into downloading a fake app via the Play Store, a YouTube video, or social media without checking how and where to get the official one right here on the forum, they only have themselves to blame. Software should only be downloaded from official sources. That is true for crypto wallets as much as anything else. The official source for a Bitcointalk mobile app should be Bitcointalk.

You are not a prick  Wink
And I am aware that most crypto users should be aware of the security measures to be taken when comes to downloading apps and programs. Again, I felt I needed to point out one of the cons about having an app for the forum. Of course that does not mean there will not be many pros with it.

I would personally use such app if ever came to be.


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July 03, 2022, 05:20:42 PM
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I don't use bitcointalk on mobile. Sometimes i do use to browse this site on mobile (using firefox) but when I have to post, I do it on my laptop. By the way, anyone can access and post using any mobile browser in the phone, so it's not a big deal.


It's gonna take one more decade for epochtalk and then another couple decade for the APP. We are waiting 😉

epochtalk is ready however we are waiting for bitcoin to reach 100,000$ so they can launch epochtalk on a special day.  Wink

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July 03, 2022, 05:45:09 PM
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Due to regular visit opening browser and then login in to the Siteconsume time that not a big deal by the way still, if there will be and application then Bitcointalk can be accessible by more users and that will boost the Experience. Anytime acces will be available.

If this is the reason you want an app for btt, you can simply bookmark btt in your browser and always click to access. Then when logging in, there's an option to always stay connected, you can tick it to avoid the stress of logging in every time. Do this  if it's a personal computer.

That will be more secure as my perspective due to no third party Browser involvement.

The security you are saying, is it from your own end or from the forum back-end? If it's that of the forum, I think it's safe, don't know about your own end.

The talk about btt app has long been discussed in this forum and it seems theymos is not interested about it. Maybe the release of new forum software is what is important to him. I really bothered about the UI of the forum when I was new, but now, I think I am very much in love with what we have.

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July 03, 2022, 05:55:35 PM
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epochtalk is ready however we are waiting for bitcoin to reach 100,000$ so they can launch epochtalk on a special day.  Wink
Bitcoin at 6 figure! That will not be bad. I am waiting for Theymos to confirm it 😉

That unfortunately would not stop a bad actor from uploading a fake version to the play store, any BBT user unaware of the official link/thread could potentially fall for the scam.
I do not think so. Anyone who is old here they will obviously first make a post on Meta before even trying to login using the APP. For anyone this is a joyful moment so they will not miss it to share even before trying the APP. There are chances for lower rank users who could try it and they will become the victim but it will not take long to have it known for rest of us.

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What's exactly bad about Bitcointalk on a mobile phone? Apart from editing/posting, since that's going to be horrible anyway on a smaller keyboard. When I've used a phone to look at the forum, mostly to read, and not to log in mind you, I've never really had a problem with it.

I have logged in on an alt account I specifically made for insecure connections a few years ago, and I remember it being very slow to quote, and what not, but at the end of the day, would a app really make this any better? Especially, the amount of time needed to develop the app.

I'm not convinced it will, at least when you think of the effort needed to develop it, and maintain it. I guess the question is, how many users are actually using a mobile phone to connect to here? (I do suspect quite a lot)
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While I personally don't miss having bitcointalk app and I am used to browsing on mobile phone, I do think that it would be a good addition for all those younger generations who are used to have that when accessing forum. On top of that, there are a lot of people from 3rd world countries that can't afford PC and are doing everything on mobile phones, so that would be useful for them as well. With that being said, I don't think that mobile version will happen anytime soon, if ever.
The mobile version might be a good thing to consider especially when users can't bring their laptop with them forever. Right now, 95% of my activities on the forum is on a laptop and I'm feeling fine, but at times I also have to access the forums from mobile, especially when I'm outside. It's not too annoying, but a mobile application may be needed by those who don't have a laptop yet.

I am waiting for Theymos to confirm it 😉
Agreed, but I am very don't hope it took too many decades. LOL

It's gonna take one more decade for epochtalk and then another couple decade for the APP. We are waiting 😉


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I'm not convinced it would.
The app is not needed after all if the forum web version (current version) was mobile responsive. If epochtalk ever launch then problem solved.

Apart from editing/posting,
This is a major problem I felt when I tried with mobile device. There are problems with reading also. You need to move your page right to left and left to right all the time. This is where a mobile responsive version will help.

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This is a major problem I felt when I tried with mobile device. There are problems with reading also. You need to move your page right to left and left to right all the time. This is where a mobile responsive version will help.
Would rotating the device, potentially mitigate the scaling issue? Then, using IME arrows on the keyboard, allow for better editing? For example, I can't live without IME arrows. I'm actually not sure if that's a universal term, and I'm not exactly sure what the abbreviation stands for, but on my custom ROM I've got "IME arrows" which basically allow you to go back, and forward without using the backspace, and space button.

I know that highlighting text can sometimes be tricky, and then there's the quotation side of things. I just don't know what you would implement inside a app, to be better at achieving it. I've typed up fairly lengthy content on things that aren't related to the forum, and while it doesn't come close to a keyboard, it wasn't too bad. The only other complexity I see with the forum is quoting, and then editing or snipping that quote as some users like to call it. That, isn't easily fixed, because of the limitations of a phone though.

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Would rotating the device, potentially mitigate the scaling issue? Then, using IME arrows on the keyboard, allow for better editing? For example, I can't live without IME arrows. I'm actually not sure if that's a universal term, and I'm not exactly sure what the abbreviation stands for, but on my custom ROM I've got "IME arrows" which basically allow you to go back, and forward without using the backspace, and space button.

I know that highlighting text can sometimes be tricky, and then there's the quotation side of things. I just don't know what you would implement inside a app, to be better at achieving it. I've typed up fairly lengthy content on things that aren't related to the forum, and while it doesn't come close to a keyboard, it wasn't too bad. The only other complexity I see with the forum is quoting, and then editing or snipping that quote as some users like to call it. That, isn't easily fixed, because of the limitations of a phone though.
I am not a mobile friendly person, it's too small for me. I like my laptop and feel comfortable working in it. The current forum is serving me without any problem. In fact I may feel uncomfortable if the layout changes, the BBCode version changes however at the same time I am curious to experience epochtalk.

Do I sound old? 😉

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I am not a mobile friendly person, it's too small for me. I like my laptop and feel comfortable working in it. The current forum is serving me without any problem. In fact I may feel uncomfortable if the layout changes, the BBCode version changes however at the same time I am curious to experience epochtalk.

Do I sound old? 😉
I mean, not really. I'm not looking forward to any major changes in the future. I've become quite accustomed to the current forum software, and I also share the view that laptops/desktops are miles better than phones. I don't login on phones any more, and I just use the phone for reading while out of office.

I understand users frustrations with using the forum on a mobile device, but my thoughts are I don't know how you'd effectively tackle the problem of quoting, and editing. Go to any modern forum these days (discourse), and you'd likely get the same. I've had to sign up to a site to ask a specific question before, and it would've been easier on a laptop that's for sure.

The only difference with bitcointalk or better yet the underlying software it uses Simple Machines Forum is it allows for extensive editing of the post you're replying too. A lot of modern forums don't allow this, and you simply have to quote them completely or it shows you're replying to a certain post, but not specific parts in the post itself. I personally prefer this system, despite it sometimes taking a lot longer, it allows us to be a bit more specific in our replies.
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