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July 03, 2022, 01:10:44 PM
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I’m trying to download the update for the Electrum 4.2.2 wallet from Electrum web page. There is a Thomas V public key publish there that you might find in this link https://raw.githubusercontent.com/spesmilo/electrum/master/pubkeys/ThomasV.asc. If I import this key into my Kleopatra signature manager, it looks as it imports it, but then I cannot see it in my list of imported signatures. If I try to look it up on server it does not find it. I’m following instructions in this link: https://bitzuma.com/posts/how-to-verify-an-electrum-download-on-windows/.
This signature is now completely different from the one is published in old posts (0x2bd5824b7f9470e6). New ThomasV public key is a lot longer.
Anybody knows any other way to verify my Electrum 4.2.2 installer? It seems that my Gpg4win for Windows OS does not work at all. Do you know any other signature manager reliable software?
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There is a Thomas V public key publish there that you might find in this link https://raw.githubusercontent.com/spesmilo/electrum/master/pubkeys/ThomasV.asc.
This matches the public key I have for ThomasV.

If I import this key into my Kleopatra signature manager, it looks as it imports it, but then I cannot see it in my list of imported signatures.
It should be in your list of imported keys or certificates, since it is a key, not a signature. I'm not overly familiar with Kleopatra, but make sure you have selected "All Certificates" in the drop down menu, and it should be listed under the name "Thomas Voegtlin (https://electrum.org)".

If I try to look it up on server it does not find it. I’m following instructions in this link: https://bitzuma.com/posts/how-to-verify-an-electrum-download-on-windows/.
That is the correct fingerprint. This sounds like a problem with Kleopatra rather than ThomasV's key. Are you using the most up to date version? Which keyserver are you searching?

This signature is now completely different from the one is published in old posts (0x2bd5824b7f9470e6). New ThomasV public key is a lot longer.
It is the same public key. It has been valid since 2011 and has been used on all Electrum versions since then.

Anybody knows any other way to verify my Electrum 4.2.2 installer? It seems that my Gpg4win for Windows OS does not work at all. Do you know any other signature manager reliable software?
What happens when you actually try to verify the file?
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I’m trying to download the update for the Electrum 4.2.2 wallet from Electrum web page. There is a Thomas V public key publish there that you might find in this link https://raw.githubusercontent.com/spesmilo/electrum/master/pubkeys/ThomasV.asc. If I import this key into my Kleopatra signature manager, it looks as it imports it, but then I cannot see it in my list of imported signatures. If I try to look it up on server it does not find it. I’m following instructions in this link: https://bitzuma.com/posts/how-to-verify-an-electrum-download-on-windows/.
This signature is now completely different from the one is published in old posts (0x2bd5824b7f9470e6). New ThomasV public key is a lot longer.
Anybody knows any other way to verify my Electrum 4.2.2 installer? It seems that my Gpg4win for Windows OS does not work at all. Do you know any other signature manager reliable software?

Could it be that you don't have all the keys being displayed?



You can also open a powershell terminal and use the following command, it'll display all the keys in your keyring:
Code:
gpg -k



The key server issue tells me you're using an outdated version of GPG4Win, check for an update.

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July 03, 2022, 11:38:48 PM
Last edit: July 03, 2022, 11:51:37 PM by BitMaxz
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I suggest you try this instead of using gpg --import put this command below

Code:
gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 6694D8DE7BE8EE5631BED9502BD5824B7F9470E6

This code is on Electum GitHub documentation here https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum-docs/blob/master/gpg-check.rst using that command is for substitute if lookup on the server temporarily does not work or if you can't successfully import keys.
You must run CMD as administrator before you send that command.


Once it's done open Kleopatra and go to notepad and import the ThomasV pubkeys that you link above paste it to notepad and then import and proceed to verify the Electrum installer. It should automatically verify.

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From what I know, if you double-click the .asc file, Kleoparta will try to import it. But it has to have extension asc, not txt, not asc.txt, .. and the content has to be correct and should be checked with notepad.
I remember that I had error importing an asc not long ago because I've pressed right-click/save as and the saved file was not the expected asc, instead it was a html although the filename was asc. So.. double check before importing!


Even more, if you want all nice and green, as a second step inside Kleopatra you could create a temporary certificate for yourself and (right click) certify the keys you've imported.

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Code:
gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 6694D8DE7BE8EE5631BED9502BD5824B7F9470E6
The SKS keyserver network has been deprecated, so the server keys.gnupg.net will no longer work. You could try either of the following instead:
Code:
keyserver.ubuntu.com
hkp://pgp.mit.edu

You'll also want to repeat the command to import the keys of SomberNight and Emzy as well. The fingerprints for their keys are as follows:

SomberNight
Code:
0EEDCFD5CAFB459067349B23CA9EEEC43DF911DC
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Code:
9EDAFF80E080659604F4A76B2EBB056FD847F8A7
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-snip- If I try to look it up on server it does not find it.
Kleopatra's default 'OpenPGP Keyserver' (hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net) seems to be offline as well.
You can change it to keyserver.ubuntu.com in "Settings->Configure Kleopatra..." > "Open PGP Server:" in 'Directory Services' tab.
You can use other servers but that's the most recommended one.

After that, "Lookup on Server..." should work again.

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July 05, 2022, 04:15:43 AM
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The SKS keyserver network has been deprecated, so the server keys.gnupg.net will no longer work. You could try either of the following instead:
Code:
keyserver.ubuntu.com
hkp://pgp.mit.edu

So that is why most of my attempts to stake PGP keys on the gnu keyserver were all failing.

I believe keys.gnupg.net is still the default keyserver for gnupg??

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I believe keys.gnupg.net is still the default keyserver for gnupg??

I don't think so.  Recent releases of Kelopatra seems to be using hkps://keyserver.ubuntu.com/ as the default server, which is my favorite to use.  It seems to be the most reliable and responsive.  I've had good luck with hkps://keys.openpgp.org/ as well.

The GnuPG core service doesn't actually have any defaults set, as far as I can tell.  It's supposed to search a bunch of servers by default, although I seem to recall reading that specific key servers can be set as defaults in one of the configuration files.  I've never messed with it though, so I'm not sure.

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July 05, 2022, 11:58:25 PM
Last edit: July 06, 2022, 12:13:31 AM by BitMaxz
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The SKS keyserver network has been deprecated, so the server keys.gnupg.net will no longer work. You could try either of the following instead:
Code:
keyserver.ubuntu.com
hkp://pgp.mit.edu

After several attempts old version of GPG4win or the newest version in Kleopatra, I can't seem to make it work when trying to use the lookup on the server. It's loading and nothing comes up.

The only works for me are by using a command prompt and send this command

Code:
gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 6694D8DE7BE8EE5631BED9502BD5824B7F9470E6

Also, those two server works through command.

This is the audit log from Kleopatra after verifying signature and Electrum installer

Code:
gpg: Signature made 28/05/2022 9:03:12 pm Malay Peninsula Standard Time
gpg:                using RSA key 637DB1E23370F84AFF88CCE03152347D07DA627C
gpg: Can't check signature: No public key
gpg: Signature made 27/05/2022 11:19:37 pm Malay Peninsula Standard Time
gpg:                using RSA key 0EEDCFD5CAFB459067349B23CA9EEEC43DF911DC
gpg: Can't check signature: No public key
gpg: Signature made 27/05/2022 9:54:11 pm Malay Peninsula Standard Time
gpg:                using RSA key 6694D8DE7BE8EE5631BED9502BD5824B7F9470E6
gpg: Good signature from "Thomas Voegtlin (https://electrum.org) <thomasv@electrum.org>" [unknown]
gpg:                 aka "Thomas Voegtlin <thomasv1@gmx.de>" [unknown]
gpg:                 aka "ThomasV <thomasv1@gmx.de>" [unknown]
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: 6694 D8DE 7BE8 EE56 31BE  D950 2BD5 824B 7F94 70E6

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July 06, 2022, 05:04:11 AM
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Thank you for the responses. There are many issues with this Gpg4win software. First, language selection does not work. If I choose English instead of Spanish (I live in Spain), it does not matter, the interface is always in Spanish. Second, if I uninstall it and I install again, choosing English, same result. I have now installed and I have two programs: Kleopatra and GPA. Any of them do anything at all when importing or clipping to the clipboard the signatures or keys or whatever.
I used this program to download the signature keys for bitcoin core and it worked fine with those ones. What does it do? Nothing. In the case of one of the downloaded signatures (electrum-4.2.2.exe.asc) it says it has import it and there is no changes, but I cannot see it anywhere in Kleopatra:

Yes I have all certificates listed in the tab main window, but nothing appears there. This program looks as a piece of chunk as it does not look to do anything, cannot find anything... no way to resolve the issue. I'll try some other solutions I've seen in the answers.
I'm a support tech for a 3D software company. IT is not new to me. BTC or crypto is not new to me. There is something wrong with this whole signature procedure and the way this program works. Help menu in Kleopatra software has been basically useless until now.

Thanks "Legendary", I'll try your tip ("The SKS keyserver network has been deprecated, so the server keys.gnupg.net will no longer work. You could try either of the following instead"). Let's see if that works.

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Last edit: July 06, 2022, 10:52:26 PM by Coin-Keeper
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Here is Thomas V's public key in plain text.  Just copy and paste this to your desktop in a txt file.  Change the extension to .asc and if you click on that file you should be offered to import it directly into your gpg keys list by your running Kleopatra/GPG4win/etc.... .  VERIFY the fingerprint matches his ------ > you should not trust me or anyone else here to provide a clean true key for Thomas.   I just personally copied and pasted this back to my machine and no errors so its good to go.    

Confirmed Fingerprint: 6694 D8DE 7BE8 EE56 31BE  D950 2BD5 824B 7F94 70E6



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July 07, 2022, 02:24:04 AM
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After several attempts old version of GPG4win or the newest version in Kleopatra, I can't seem to make it work when trying to use the lookup on the server. It's loading and nothing comes up.

Interesting.  Honestly it's been a while since I've had Kleopatra installed on my main rig.  I have it installed a Win10 VM and I must have already changed the default server because I didn't have that issue.  I just fired up my Ubuntu VM, installed Kleopatra, and sure enough on that system the client couldn't connect to the server.  There was no server set in the defaults.  To set a preferred server as the default, click on the "Settings" menu, then click on "Configure Kleopatra."



Once set it seems to work just fine.




This is the audit log from Kleopatra after verifying signature and Electrum installer

Code:
gpg: Signature made 28/05/2022 9:03:12 pm Malay Peninsula Standard Time
gpg:                using RSA key 637DB1E23370F84AFF88CCE03152347D07DA627C
gpg: Can't check signature: No public key
gpg: Signature made 27/05/2022 11:19:37 pm Malay Peninsula Standard Time
gpg:                using RSA key 0EEDCFD5CAFB459067349B23CA9EEEC43DF911DC
gpg: Can't check signature: No public key
gpg: Signature made 27/05/2022 9:54:11 pm Malay Peninsula Standard Time
gpg:                using RSA key 6694D8DE7BE8EE5631BED9502BD5824B7F9470E6
gpg: Good signature from "Thomas Voegtlin (https://electrum.org) <thomasv@electrum.org>" [unknown]
gpg:                 aka "Thomas Voegtlin <thomasv1@gmx.de>" [unknown]
gpg:                 aka "ThomasV <thomasv1@gmx.de>" [unknown]
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: 6694 D8DE 7BE8 EE56 31BE  D950 2BD5 824B 7F94 70E6

That's normal.  The critical thing is that it says "Good signature from "Thomas Voegtlin (https://electrum.org) <thomasv@electrum.org>"."  This indicates you have the ThomasV's key in your keyring, but the "Warning" means you haven't signed the key with your own GPG key.

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July 14, 2022, 05:08:50 PM
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Thanks for your help, guys. It is resolved. I finally managed to verify Thomas V signature with Kleopatra. "Coin Keeper" solution worked fine.  


Here is Thomas V's public key in plain text.  Just copy and paste this to your desktop in a txt file.  Change the extension to .asc and if you click on that file you should be offered to import it directly into your gpg keys list by your running Kleopatra/GPG4win/etc.... .  VERIFY the fingerprint matches his ------ > you should not trust me or anyone else here to provide a clean true key for Thomas.   I just personally copied and pasted this back to my machine and no errors so its good to go.    

Confirmed Fingerprint: 6694 D8DE 7BE8 EE56 31BE  D950 2BD5 824B 7F94 70E6



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Thanks for your help, guys. It is resolved. I finally managed to verify Thomas V signature with Kleopatra. "Coin Keeper" solution worked fine.  
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I thought you already abandoned this thread, good that you replied and inform which worked at your end.

For reference: The earlier replies like post number 5 should also work,
just right click the link to ThomasV's Pubkey in the OP then select "save as" or "save link as..." or similar option.
That will enable you to download it as ".asc" file.

Fixing Kleopatra's "lookout from server" by changing the server should also work.

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Thanks for your help, guys. It is resolved. I finally managed to verify Thomas V signature with Kleopatra. "Coin Keeper" solution worked fine.  


Here is Thomas V's public key in plain text.  Just copy and paste this to your desktop in a txt file.  Change the extension to .asc and if you click on that file you should be offered to import it directly into your gpg keys list by your running Kleopatra/GPG4win/etc.... .  VERIFY the fingerprint matches his ------ > you should not trust me or anyone else here to provide a clean true key for Thomas.   I just personally copied and pasted this back to my machine and no errors so its good to go.    

Confirmed Fingerprint: 6694 D8DE 7BE8 EE56 31BE  D950 2BD5 824B 7F94 70E6



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