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July 04, 2022, 06:31:37 AM |
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This isn't anything that new, though a lot of people are still clueless about this. There's a reason why when using Android devices, it's highly recommended to flash a privacy-friendly custom ROM such as LineageOS[1], GrapheneOS[2], or CalyxOS[3]. Unfortunately only select phone models are supported though.
[1] https://lineageos.org/[2] https://grapheneos.org/[3] https://calyxos.org/ |
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July 04, 2022, 06:53:02 AM |
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And you realize it now? Well, better late than never. Yes, google does not spy, and it is best to take precautions, as mk4 comments. There is a growing business, which is on its way to becoming the biggest business in the world and that is data. Do you guys noticed same precise ads on your devices also ?
Yes, many years ago the same thing happened to me that has happened to you now. |
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Muhammad Shoaib
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July 04, 2022, 07:37:33 AM |
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May be may not be well i have very fixed Openion on it as i don't know how people think that Anything is Private in the Digital World, if you consider my Openion Privacy is a Myth in the current era,
Spiesare in our pocket as Smartphone,
No malwar required, Watsapp, Games,Facebook, Insta YouTube is the enemy to your privacy and it is obvious as well as you better know that DATA is everything in digital world so they eat your data and let you ise the internet.
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davis196
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July 04, 2022, 11:15:37 AM |
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What were you talking about?
Maybe you have previously searched in Google or Youtube by using keywords around the topic you were talking about and Google/Youtube are sending you relevant ads? It's obvious that Google is tracking our browsing and web activities, but using our smartphones as spying tools seems a little bit exaggerated. I know that they have the power and ability to do so, but what's the point? Nowadays almost everyone has a Google account/Youtube account and uses Chrome browser on an Android device. If it becomes too obvious that Google is spying on us, many people would just delete their Google accounts and root their Android devices. It's not that the Google alternatives aren't as bad as Google.
Do you think that Apple won't spy on it's customers? Privacy is something utopian in the current digital world.
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Naficopa
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July 04, 2022, 12:59:34 PM |
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If you watch Snowden. Than you will get an idea how our privacy is been exposed on the computers and internet. In this world of internet and 3G and 4G. Nothing is personal. This getting the same ads is also coming from your internet fiber cable - whatever you see and search you get ads of it. It's very common. If you are worried - then keep phone away from your bedroom. |
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boyptc
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July 04, 2022, 02:25:50 PM |
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Not only google but every app that contains ads that we just hit the agree button without reading it.
They're like that and I don't know how do they call that but it's like an algorithm and everything that our phone hears from us, it's quick to register for those ads and they'll show to our feed.
The same goes for search for our PCs, whatever we search, there's the algo for the ads that will eventually come out later on.
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July 04, 2022, 02:28:30 PM |
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If you watch Snowden. Than you will get an idea how our privacy is been exposed on the computers and internet. In this world of internet and 3G and 4G. Nothing is personal. This getting the same ads is also coming from your internet fiber cable - whatever you see and search you get ads of it. It's very common. If you are worried - then keep phone away from your bedroom. You guys don't realize how serious it is if they spy us via the phone microphones ...it's not like spying chat msgs ... govs , secret services need a warrant to do that and Google does it without asking anyone permission or notifying the users. What the f...ck is going on ,we are living in a corporate police state world ... |
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gweb1996 (OP)
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July 04, 2022, 02:30:04 PM |
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Not only google but every app that contains ads that we just hit the agree button without reading it.
They're like that and I don't know how do they call that but it's like an algorithm and everything that our phone hears from us, it's quick to register for those ads and they'll show to our feed.
The same goes for search for our PCs, whatever we search, there's the algo for the ads that will eventually come out later on.
they spy us via the phone microphones < -- it's illegal guys ,FBI needs warrant to tap phones , and Google does it without asking permission etc... |
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Smack That Ace
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July 04, 2022, 03:41:45 PM |
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Do you think that Apple won't spy on it's customers? Privacy is something utopian in the current digital world.
Yes, I had the same case last year. I am using an old iphone and use facebook to keep in touch with some friends. Once my friend and I were talking and accidentally mentioned the toy bear, because it is very beautiful and I think my son will like it. I asked my friend: do you know where it sells?. When I got home, I turned on my phone and played on Facebook and was quite surprised to see so many ads about the toy bear I talked to my friend about. Actually, I was quite surprised but also did not pay much attention to why this happened. It's only when it happens a few times that I start to think that the devices we're using are spying on us. |
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Ucy
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July 04, 2022, 03:56:41 PM |
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Similar thing happens in real world but people are more asleep to notice... If you are interested in something you gradually start seeing it. If you want to attract good things, be interested in good things. The creators of the internet probably copy this from nature but you can't trust them not to abuse it.
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July 04, 2022, 04:47:02 PM |
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Similar thing happens in real world but people are more asleep to notice... If you are interested in something you gradually start seeing it. If you want to attract good things, be interested in good things. The creators of the internet probably copy this from nature but you can't trust them not to abuse it.
Whatever you search for a certain IP - everyone using the same IP will get the same kinds of ad. The internet world is very intense - have you notice there were so many games on fb where they use to ask to access your personal info and you willingly give access. Why do they do that. That is because they have now legal right to get your personal access.. |
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July 04, 2022, 05:32:52 PM |
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Dear op, that's how targeted marketing works! Android operating system is a part of the ecosystem they have created so that they can maintain and increase their dominance.
Let's assume you sell mobile covers of Samsung Galaxy Note phones. You can precisely target all Galaxy note phone owners within a specific geographic range. You can refine the ad serving towards a certain age group and you can precisely target those people who likes to do online shopping. Privacy is a myth in today's world. It exists only on papers.
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July 04, 2022, 05:33:23 PM |
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Not only google but every app that contains ads that we just hit the agree button without reading it.
They're like that and I don't know how do they call that but it's like an algorithm and everything that our phone hears from us, it's quick to register for those ads and they'll show to our feed.
The same goes for search for our PCs, whatever we search, there's the algo for the ads that will eventually come out later on.
they spy us via the phone microphones < -- it's illegal guys ,FBI needs warrant to tap phones , and Google does it without asking permission etc... The same for Facebook too. But I'm sure they all know that but they did nothing or did they already? And not only with the microphones but also with the cameras. So be careful with what you agree in permissions because it's important to have at least knowledge on what you allow and what you not. Even if FBI sues google, they'll just pay them the fine. |
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July 04, 2022, 05:41:30 PM |
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I have the same thing happen and it is probably widespread behavior, definitely something suspicious taking place there. That being said, their advertising or analytics javascript is found on so many pages it's quite possible that they might be able to connect the dots via other methods. They are turning out to be a really scummy company these days, far from their original motto of do no evil. They are much more benign, but possibly more dangerous than a company like Amazon because of the information they have access to - especially when it comes to manipulating news or even individual politicians who might want to take restraining actions against them. |
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July 04, 2022, 06:18:45 PM |
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Realistically there's no point changing now, they've already got all the data they needed  .
Most of these systems work of recommender algorithms. It's like how you can have the same thought of other people at the same time and how the likelihood of your thoughts being the same for a specific point in time is proportional to how well you know that person. Recommender algorithms essentially come up with an angle based on a lot of data about you and then try to work out who else has a similar angle and pushes content they like towards you (it's a lot more accurate and picks up data from more people when there's millions or billions of users). the use of the word angle is because a sizable amount of trigonometry goes into producing these algorithms. |
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July 04, 2022, 07:11:35 PM |
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Realistically there's no point changing now, they've already got all the data they needed .
Most of these systems work of recommender algorithms. It's like how you can have the same thought of other people at the same time and how the likelihood of your thoughts being the same for a specific point in time is proportional to how well you know that person. Recommender algorithms essentially come up with an angle based on a lot of data about you and then try to work out who else has a similar angle and pushes content they like towards you (it's a lot more accurate and picks up data from more people when there's millions or billions of users). the use of the word angle is because a sizable amount of trigonometry goes into producing these algorithms. I have disabled recommendation systems wherever possible. The good news is that this is possible everywhere, although recommendation systems are usually enabled by default. The bad news is that your news feed will become less interesting after this, and the ads will become less attractive. The good news is you'll waste less time and buy less junk you don't need. You have no chance of defeating self-learning artificial intelligence while sitting at home in a comfortable chair in a bathrobe and house slippers. But you can prevent it from learning from your behavior on the network, and this is not even too difficult. It’s strange for me to talk about this on the Bitcointalk forum, but it seems that a new generation of cryptocurrency users has grown up who don’t know about cypherpunks. |
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July 04, 2022, 07:12:39 PM |
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I think google is spying on us ,when our phones are in the room
I was talking about something a few minutes ago , and when i opened youtube , i got an ad on the video ,about the same thing i was talking about ...how do they know ? if not spying ...
Same weird ads i got this month a lot ...
To be honest this sounds funny abit but why i may not have a doubt about it is because google itself is a centralized network and in the world of a centralized system i don't think there's anything called privacy even though they may claim it that you have it, but believe me its all lies, but as regards the aspect of spying your talks or conversations Is another thing entirely of which i believe google has the power to do such but wouldn't, and no recent devices made from them that opens up users to their access other than the normal tracking which is more likely not to function well if the location is off, but listening to your conversation has something to do maybe with your device, or you been hacked, your experience might just be a coincidence. |
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og kush420
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July 04, 2022, 08:45:15 PM |
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Realistically there's no point changing now, they've already got all the data they needed .
Most of these systems work of recommender algorithms. It's like how you can have the same thought of other people at the same time and how the likelihood of your thoughts being the same for a specific point in time is proportional to how well you know that person. Recommender algorithms essentially come up with an angle based on a lot of data about you and then try to work out who else has a similar angle and pushes content they like towards you (it's a lot more accurate and picks up data from more people when there's millions or billions of users). the use of the word angle is because a sizable amount of trigonometry goes into producing these algorithms. I have disabled recommendation systems wherever possible. The good news is that this is possible everywhere, although recommendation systems are usually enabled by default. The bad news is that your news feed will become less interesting after this, and the ads will become less attractive. The good news is you'll waste less time and buy less junk you don't need. You have no chance of defeating self-learning artificial intelligence while sitting at home in a comfortable chair in a bathrobe and house slippers. But you can prevent it from learning from your behavior on the network, and this is not even too difficult. It’s strange for me to talk about this on the Bitcointalk forum, but it seems that a new generation of cryptocurrency users has grown up who don’t know about cypherpunks. That is a good approach - i will do also look for the options to disable the recommendation. Also you have mentioned the very valid point that as the internet has brought us many comforts it has stolen from us the privacy and our identity. I miss those time when social media was not that common. |
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July 04, 2022, 09:23:22 PM |
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May be may not be well i have very fixed Openion on it as i don't know how people think that Anything is Private in the Digital World, if you consider my Openion Privacy is a Myth in the current era,
Spiesare in our pocket as Smartphone,
No malwar required, Watsapp, Games,Facebook, Insta YouTube is the enemy to your privacy and it is obvious as well as you better know that DATA is everything in digital world so they eat your data and let you ise the internet.
Once you do make yourself connected to internet then dont consider yourself to be in private 100% on just by using your device alone and surfing website then you are already giving that bridge and considering about those ads which it does really shows up which would really be correlated on what you are recently or actively searching on which there would really be some crawling happening towards your surfing history which it is really into their algo that it would be providing related stuffs and be thrown out into you through ads which isnt something new. First time? Then you should really get used to it because thats how it works or business do. |
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