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July 05, 2022, 03:33:35 AM
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I believe that most of you will know by now that some well known casino’s here are seen on premier league club shirts, but it looks like that they’ll have to look elsewhere to spend their marketing budget as premier league has asked clubs to take a voluntary ban on gambling sites that are seen on their shirts.

Furthermore the clubs have been given up to 2024 - 2025 to end such deals under this voluntary ban, however it’s yet not official but if 14 clubs accept it then it’ll be applicable with immediate effect, so what are your thoughts on this is the rule bit too harsh or it’s justified?.
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July 05, 2022, 08:59:51 AM
Last edit: July 05, 2022, 09:21:30 AM by Oshosondy
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This is a sad news, I know of Sportbet. If English Premier League clubs do not allowed betting sites to endorse them again, it may slightly affect the betting site to see increasing new customers, but there should be other ways they can advertise their products like livescores sites and many others.

According to the news, if 14 clubs can support the ban, that it would be adopted immediately. Top clubs like Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur are not sponsoring any gambling site, such clubs may be in support of this.

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July 05, 2022, 09:12:23 AM
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Stake and Sportsbet have sponsorships with premier league teams isnt it? That would be a pretty huge blow to be honest. Premier League is the most watched league in the world football and the reason why TV rights etc are so expensive and also the reason why EPL teams manage to have better transfer budgets than the others. Tough on the crypto community as well. Since Stake etc have been doing a great job promoting crypto and crypto gambling to the world.

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July 05, 2022, 09:48:07 AM
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It's a bit like the beer advertisements that were banned not so long ago...actually a very long time ago now, I'm getting old. The sport wants to remain as kid friendly as possible, and in modern times everything is about being on brand. You can't claim to be a sport for everyone when you're shoving gambling down the viewers throat from every possible angle. I imagine they'd lose a lot of money through this, so I'm not sure if it's respectable from them. Almost convinces me they're doing this for the greater good, rather than to line their own pockets.

Although, just because the Premier league does it, doesn't mean the broadcasters have too, right?
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July 05, 2022, 10:02:48 AM
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^Same as the cigarette ads. Right? That I think, they really stopped because I don't see cigarette brands being in commercials anymore. In the 90's you will see tons of it, new brands and old brands. From red, lights up to menthols.  Grin

Are this really affecting the community or the kids these days?
They are not allowed to access the gambling sites if their parents knows how to forbid it in their computer or smartphones. This will surely hurt the gambling industry and worse thing that happens is if other leagues following the same ban.
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July 05, 2022, 10:15:27 AM
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It looks like talent gap between the top clubs and those below them will widen even more. As mentioned in the article, the ban only affects revenue of smaller clubs sponsored by these gambling platforms. If they cannot find replacements or come to a compromise, it will be tougher to bring in quality players to their team.

UK has very strict rules when it comes to gambling regulations and I'm wondering if part of the decision was related to advertising of unregistered companies in the country.
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July 05, 2022, 10:30:08 AM
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I think it is harsh to ask clubs to end their gambling partnership deals.In the Premier League some of the reputable casinos here have really expensive deals with a couple of Premier League teams.Most others that reside outside the forum have the same type of partnership.Asking to end these partnerships voluntarily and if 14 of them accept this rule to take effect immediately doesn't make a lot of sense to me,nevertheless I believe most of the teams won't be stupid to cancel deals from which they benefit a lot of money for their club.

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July 05, 2022, 01:04:18 PM
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I've seen some stands that gambling sponsorships don't necessarily have any connection whatsoever to the problem of gambling (gambling addiction to be specific), and I honestly agree with it for the most part though I do believe that this just ended up like this because they couldn't necessarily find any other link or causality as to what causes gambling problems, so they just went ahead for the most obvious ones, aka public advertising of gambling companies, so no I don't really think it's justified.

They are considering if it's permanent or not still though, so that's a plus I guess..? ;

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July 05, 2022, 01:16:09 PM
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Premier League is definitely like NBA of international football, along with UEFA Champions League. This means there will be huge effect on revenues, for two sides. Gambling websites will lose huge traffic and customers, teams will be blocked from huge financial support given by gambling websites. Why can't they find better way to fix things? "Voluntary ban" as a term sounds beyond stupid. Its just a ban, nothing voluntary about it.
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July 05, 2022, 01:21:14 PM
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I think it is harsh to ask clubs to end their gambling partnership deals.In the Premier League some of the reputable casinos here have really expensive deals with a couple of Premier League teams.Most others that reside outside the forum have the same type of partnership.Asking to end these partnerships voluntarily and if 14 of them accept this rule to take effect immediately doesn't make a lot of sense to me,nevertheless I believe most of the teams won't be stupid to cancel deals from which they benefit a lot of money for their club.
Stake.com have reached an agreement in this season with Everton as the main partnership so I think this is indeed a big blow for the club because for them a lot of money flows here to support their needs so I don't think even this voluntary ban will see them end up sponsoring there must be another way to keep their partnership still not canceled from their respective clubs.

It's still been given a few seasons 2024 - 2025 so I think there could be a change later so some gambling sponsors can keep their partnership.

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July 05, 2022, 01:22:57 PM
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Premier League is definitely like NBA of international football, along with UEFA Champions League. This means there will be huge effect on revenues, for two sides. Gambling websites will lose huge traffic and customers, teams will be blocked from huge financial support given by gambling websites. Why can't they find better way to fix things? "Voluntary ban" as a term sounds beyond stupid. Its just a ban, nothing voluntary about it.
I don't think if the casino will end the partnership will make the sites lose huge traffic and customers, because if the customers already saw the sites previously and play on that's site without any problem, I believe the customers wouldn't move to other sites. I'd say the clubs will lose huge amount money since partnering with a club will cost a lot, it's not small money even they partnered with small clubs.
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July 05, 2022, 01:44:17 PM
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It's a bit like the beer advertisements that were banned not so long ago...actually a very long time ago now, I'm getting old. The sport wants to remain as kid friendly as possible, and in modern times everything is about being on brand. You can't claim to be a sport for everyone when you're shoving gambling down the viewers throat from every possible angle. I imagine they'd lose a lot of money through this, so I'm not sure if it's respectable from them. Almost convinces me they're doing this for the greater good, rather than to line their own pockets.

Although, just because the Premier league does it, doesn't mean the broadcasters have too, right?

It was years before I could mentally remove Carlsberg from the Liverpool association too actually, or Dunhill (cigarettes) from my now-defunct local club.

Things change and times change and people must evolve and move on.

Wondering now actually if this is restricted only to shirt sponsorship and if they'll allow less visible partnerships (like how Sportsbet partners on community and education) but I can understand the ethics behind it.

Here where I live now there's an immediate ban on influencers (not sure what that means) and former athletes to become ambassadors for casinos (7 new online casinos opened after Covid and they all took on ppl like Ronaldinho).

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July 05, 2022, 01:53:20 PM
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This is a sad news, I know of Sportbet. If English Premier League clubs do not allowed betting sites to endorse them again, it may slightly affect the betting site to see increasing new customers, but there should be other ways they can advertise their products like livescores sites and many others.

That would be a blow to Bitcoin and cryptocurrency at large, because Sportsbet is definitely one of the leading crypto oriented platform making waves and bringing huge positive publicity to BTC

I'm not sure as to how that'll be for the greater good, I mean there are several ways kids get exposed to stuffs and I'm not sure ending gambling deals will eliminate such risks, if there are still tons of billboards around that promotes it. I agree that it might be reduce the risk and might be a morally accepted standard. However, I'm sure all gambling sites i.e. ethical ones, not the outright scamming ones often make sure that their customers are of the appropriate age to use their service hence the request of age during registration and KYC after there is some reason to believe otherwise.

Top clubs like Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur are not sponsoring any gambling site, such clubs may be in support of this.

I think currently most of the mentioned teams are not being sponsored or in partnership with gambling platform, but a few ago Liverpool, Tottenham and Chelsea were all in partnership with 1xbet which they all later suspend due several illegal contents according to the UK laws on the websites. However, Arsenal if I'm not mistaken is still very well into a partnership deal with sportsbets.io

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July 05, 2022, 02:06:22 PM
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In my opinion, the policy carried out by the British Government to eliminate gambling sponsors will cause big problems and losses for English Premier League clubs, what are the British Government thinking and planning, don't they think this policy can eliminate club income, I think this is a strange competition policy.

Gambling sponsorship ban policy, I think potentially at least some Premier League clubs will lose their income from gambling sponsorship, don't they think that gambling companies can make billions of pounds for clubs in the English league.

I believe this policy, will worsen the club in the English league, I do not know what steps the British Government has in mind about this policy in the future, what is clear is that this will trigger bad effects for Premier League clubs, if the British government is not professional in dealing with these policies.

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July 05, 2022, 02:42:17 PM
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I don't know what the reasons for the Premier League authorities or the British government are for banning the sponsorship of gambling houses for English Premier League clubs, I think this prohibition will of course be very detrimental to the football teams who have been getting money from their sponsors, from several media from what I read, if the decision is implemented in the English league then there are several clubs such as Brentford, Burnley, Crystal Palace, Leeds, Newcastle, Southampton, Watford, West Ham United and Wolverhampton Wanderers who will suffer losses and even threaten the club finances later.
I think that even if this implementation decision eventually occurs, the English league authorities must be able to find the best or alternative way so that English league football clubs can get new sponsors, because so far I see it is difficult for small teams to get sponsors who are ready to pay big enough for the team except gambling house.
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So wait...  It's a 'voluntary ban'?  Meaning not all clubs have to comply if they don't want to?  I think smaller clubs could take advantage of this if so, as they'd be more likely not to go with it and the more likely they'd be more in demand for gambling deals.  Aka more money  for them.  I think...   And if my understanding of 'voluntary ban' is right.

I think La Liga, Serie A and the Bundesliga could become more in demand for gambling deals too.

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what are the British Government thinking and planning, don't they think this policy can eliminate club income...
Club income will be temporarily affected but I don't think it can be completely eliminated. Just as it was pointed out that there formerly used to be advertisements about cigarettes but not anymore, other new companies will quickly take advantage of the opportunity to advertise with premier League clubs.

Maybe the british government has intentions to see to it that there is a reduction in underage gambling perhaps, but gambling casinos do not only  have sponsorship with premier League teams, some also sponsor cricket which is one of the sports in England as well, i'd like to know if they will affected as well.

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so what are your thoughts on this is the rule bit too harsh or it’s justified?.
For me, it's somewhat justified since they have one of the biggest viewership and I doubt most clubs would struggle to look for other deals. Then again the approval of the proposal still depends on the amount of support it'll get from different clubs. On the bright side, even if the proposal goes through they're still allowed to keep their current deals.

I think La Liga, Serie A and the Bundesliga could become more in demand for gambling deals too.
I agree, casinos would start moving to other leagues if most clubs support the proposal.

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This seems to have been suggested for a long time. Earlier this year they again issued a voluntary ban on not wearing gambling sponsors on their jerseys. So I don't think it's fully official yet, if I'm not mistaken it was proposed by the League. Even the League has sought support from Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur, but there seems to be no input. It was done because they had no gambling sponsors. It doesn't seem effective, but if it's because of a law from the government then they should comply. Although I'm actually worried about their financial condition after their sponsor is gone. Because if I'm not mistaken some gambling sponsors are the club's main source of funds.

Source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12645911/premier-league-seeks-clubs-backing-for-gambling-sponsor-ban
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premier league has asked clubs to take a voluntary ban on gambling sites that are seen on their shirts.
This is bad, really bad. Not just for the gambling sites alone but for the clubs as well. If we look at it, clubs needs this sponsorships to meet up on there ends in the management of there teams and calling the sponsorship off is sure to have some major effect on club funding.

However, I loo at this news right now and it's hilarious how they call such a mandatory order VOLUNTARY. There is nothing voluntary about giving a certain period for all deals on going site sponsorship of a club to be halt. So uncool on this one and I think they should do a review on what they really want because this isn't for the best.

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