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Question: Who will be the victors in these double unification showdowns?
Claressa Shields
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July 06, 2022, 10:23:02 AM
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Earlier this year, boxing fans witnessed arguably the biggest fight in women's boxing history, the Taylor-Serrano fight. Thanks to Eddie Hearn's Matchroom Boxing and DAZN. But we are not done yet. Bob Arum's Top Rank and ESPN are set to break women's boxing records. This time, it's a double-header unification event in London, England this September 10.

The Ring, WBA, WBC and IBF undefeated middleweight champion Claressa Shields will unify with the last remaining belt holder in WBO champion, the undefeated Savannah Marshall. Claressa Shields is already a decorated fighter before turning pro. She is a two time gold medalist in the Olympics. While Shields wanted to unify all the belts to make herself an undisputed champion, she also wants to take revenge on Marshall who beat her when they were in the amateurs.

In the other main event of the evening, undefeated The Ring, IBF and WBO super-featherweight champion Mikaela Mayer will try to add another piece of her collections, the WBC belt held by another undefeated champion Alycia Baumgarder. The other remaining champion is WBA holder Hyun Mi Choi of South Korea. The winner between Mayer and Baumgardner might move up in weight and fight the biggest name in women's boxing, the undisputed lightweight champion of Ireland, Katie Taylor.

The difference between this event and Katie Taylor's are the trash talking. We won't be lucking them as both 4 protagonists were already trash talking each other since they became world champions together.

 

                

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July 06, 2022, 10:52:10 AM
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I'm a boxing fan almost all my life and if I have to compare myself to the rest I would rather be watching a mismatched boxers fighting to til they drop than watching boxing ladies. Is Top Rank and ESPN just trying too much to market these ladies that they have to make it double unification.

If they just move the dates to the most awaited fights, it will be more exciting. Maybe its just me but they are better fights that we'll rather pay in double to watch like GGG vs Canelo or Crawford vs Spence.


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July 06, 2022, 12:25:04 PM
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I'm a boxing fan almost all my life and if I have to compare myself to the rest I would rather be watching a mismatched boxers fighting to til they drop than watching boxing ladies. Is Top Rank and ESPN just trying too much to market these ladies that they have to make it double unification.

If they just move the dates to the most awaited fights, it will be more exciting. Maybe its just me but they are better fights that we'll rather pay in double to watch like GGG vs Canelo or Crawford vs Spence.

So I guess hardcore boxing fans have different tastes then. Personally, I hate mismatches. I felt like I am just wasting my time since there's a very slim chance of an upset. It's like tolerating cherry pickers like Tank Davis, Leo Santa Cruz and others instead of fighting the big names and unifying belts. And if I have to pick only one to watch, I prefer this fight rather than watching a past prime GGG. And this is coming from a GGG fan since his Universum days.




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July 07, 2022, 08:54:06 AM
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I'm more excited to see the Shields vs Marshall match it generates huge interest because of the thrash talks that happen between them, and when thrash talks happen between two champions with good records and the same fighting expect it to generate a lot of interest and of course, these are two women with a claim to be the GWOAT, expect a lot to happen before the actual fight.

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July 07, 2022, 04:43:23 PM
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I'm more excited to see the Shields vs Marshall match it generates huge interest because of the thrash talks that happen between them, and when thrash talks happen between two champions with good records and the same fighting expect it to generate a lot of interest and of course, these are two women with a claim to be the GWOAT, expect a lot to happen before the actual fight.

True. Shields is a bit annoying and at the same time funny with her trash talking. She talks a lot but she also gets easily mad. I want Marshall to knock her out. Although this is not an easy mission as the self proclaimed GWOAT got skills.

Mikaela Mayer is a friend of Shields. She ridiculed Baumgardner for missing their first press conference.
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Baumgarder missed our first press conference. @alyciabaum, if you can't figure out zoom how you gonna figure out me? -Mikaela Mayer

I am rooting for the heavy-handed Baumgarder here though.

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September 07, 2022, 02:14:55 PM
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So these fights are happening this weekend. Women's boxing is back. These are all unification fights and all 4 of them are also undefeated so these fights should be better according to papers at least.


The Ring, WBO, and IBF champion Mikaela Mayer finally shook hands with WBC champion Alycia Baumgardner but they actually continued their trash talking after this. I like Alycia, she's fast and she hurt opponents but Mayer's skills and experience in championship fights might be too much especially if the fight reaches the 2nd half.   


The face-off between Ring, WBA, WBC, and IBF champion Claressa Shields and WBO champion Savannah Marshall. Claressa continued her trash talks but Marshall remained cool and silent. It is surprising that Shields is the slight underdog but maybe Marshall's KO rate and being at home are the factors. This seems like a clear Shields fight until Marshall starts to connect with her power punches.

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It's unfortunate that this bout is canceled due to the death of his Royal Highness Queen Elizabeth

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Due to the unfortunate passing of Queen Elizabeth, the British boxing board has decided to postpone the fight. The new date looks to be Saturday 15th October 2022.

both parties and the organizer understand the situation, especially the UK as they have to mourn the passing of their Queen, so many are excited and thrilled to see this fight because this is the first time that two women with claims to be the greatest woman boxer of all time are here to fight for it, there are so much thrash talks and disrespect on both camps that I imagine fireworks in the opening bell.


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September 12, 2022, 11:55:51 AM
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It's unfortunate that this bout is canceled due to the death of his Royal Highness Queen Elizabeth

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Due to the unfortunate passing of Queen Elizabeth, the British boxing board has decided to postpone the fight. The new date looks to be Saturday 15th October 2022.

both parties and the organizer understand the situation, especially the UK as they have to mourn the passing of their Queen, so many are excited and thrilled to see this fight because this is the first time that two women with claims to be the greatest woman boxer of all time are here to fight for it, there are so much thrash talks and disrespect on both camps that I imagine fireworks in the opening bell.

Yes, I have posted it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5370631.msg60905929#msg60905929

Initially they wanted or at least tried for the weigh-in to continue, unfortunately, the BBBoC cancelled every boxing tournament including this fight which have been anticipated because of the bad mouthing and trash talking between this two rivals.

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It's unfortunate that this bout is canceled due to the death of his Royal Highness Queen Elizabeth

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Due to the unfortunate passing of Queen Elizabeth, the British boxing board has decided to postpone the fight. The new date looks to be Saturday 15th October 2022.

both parties and the organizer understand the situation, especially the UK as they have to mourn the passing of their Queen, so many are excited and thrilled to see this fight because this is the first time that two women with claims to be the greatest woman boxer of all time are here to fight for it, there are so much thrash talks and disrespect on both camps that I imagine fireworks in the opening bell.

Yes, I have posted it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5370631.msg60905929#msg60905929

Initially they wanted or at least tried for the weigh-in to continue, unfortunately, the BBBoC cancelled every boxing tournament including this fight which have been anticipated because of the bad mouthing and trash talking between this two rivals.

This is the first time that we have so much hype on a woman's boxing because they are both champions and they are undefeated and they hate each other all the ingredients for a great fight are all here, I'm just worried about Claressa's knockout percentage compared to Marshall, I like Claressa's attitude but Marshall's knockout power is a big concern, it's 16% for Claressa against 83.33% for Marshall, Claressa must have a granite chin and strong body to withstand those power punches.

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Until now I am still surprised that Marshall remained a slight favorite over Shields. But I'm not taking advantage of the odds since I am a bit annoyed with Shields' trash-talking so I want Marshall to knock her out. I just see Shields as my odds favorite because she's a 2 time Olympic gold medalist. Although Shields' lost to Marshall before in the amateurs, she might be stronger, faster, and more technical this time. We will see if Marshall's high KO ratio can change the tempo of this fight.


The other unification between these 2 pretty and sexy ladies, Mayer and Baumgardner have a more exciting build-up as both continued their verbal assaults on each other, unlike Marshall who's a silent type of person.


This is the latest after their fight was moved to October next month. I think the changing of schedule will benefit Baumgardner a bit as the taller Mayer will have to spend more time making the weight limit.

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Until now I am still surprised that Marshall remained a slight favorite over Shields. But I'm not taking advantage of the odds since I am a bit annoyed with Shields' trash-talking so I want Marshall to knock her out. I just see Shields as my odds favorite because she's a 2 time Olympic gold medalist. Although Shields' lost to Marshall before in the amateurs, she might be stronger, faster, and more technical this time. We will see if Marshall's high KO ratio can change the tempo of this fight.


Claressa may be thrash talking but it was Savannah who started it all by disrespecting to what Claressa has achieved and because of that hell broke lose, Claressa for the first time in his career will put his reputation to the test all their fights against the other boxers are rubbish and useless they are two fighters who are considered the top woman boxers and whoever wins here takes everything, if the fight ended in decision and close, there could be a rematch, let's see how this fight goes, but we have to wait for a month to see this happen.
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October 11, 2022, 07:22:50 AM
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So this doubleheader finally takes place this weekend. We have a lot of great fights this weekend. We have the rematch for the undisputed belts between Devin Haney and George Kambosos, the return of Deontay Wilder against Robert Helenius, and this double unification fight between the hottest women in boxing. I honestly prefer this event since these are the more intriguing fights; 4 champions and 3 of them are undefeated and all of them are in bad blood with each other.

To those interested in this event. Here is the trailer: https://boxing-videos.com/shields-vs-marshall-mayer-vs-baumgardner-official-trailer-biggest-womens-boxing-event-is-back.

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October 11, 2022, 07:46:16 AM
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This fight already close, but I don't find any other bet option except Moneyline, if there's an option it's better to bet Shields via decision or Marshall via KO. It's hard to guess which one will win here, Shields is a brave challenger who chasing one by one belt from the champion until she get 5 belts except the WBO belt. I think I would bet Marshall here since KO is more likely to happen than decision.

Mayer vs Baumgardner, Baumgardner is a KO specialist too but her recent result aren't KO streak so it mean her power might not enough for tough boxer. I think Mayer will win, but I wouldn't bet since the odds is quite small.

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October 13, 2022, 09:59:21 PM
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Just another update on this huge women's unification fight,

The official full press conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxnbGRtmvWM

and again, these ladies are not shy about bad mouthing and talking trash to each other. And so the build up is still continuing. I suggest boxing fans watch this fight.

Same with Mayer & Baumgardner.

Face-off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OL5h5efwBU

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October 13, 2022, 10:33:24 PM
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This fight already close, but I don't find any other bet option except Moneyline, if there's an option it's better to bet Shields via decision or Marshall via KO. It's hard to guess which one will win here, Shields is a brave challenger who chasing one by one belt from the champion until she get 5 belts except the WBO belt. I think I would bet Marshall here since KO is more likely to happen than decision.



There's never been a time that a woman's title fight is this exciting, there are so many thrash talks between the two, both are champions, and both are title holders I consider Shields to be the favorite in the fight, Savannah beating him in the amateur has no bearing on this fight, its a new ball game for this game, whoever wins will be considered the real GWOAT, they say to be the man you have to beat the man, in this case, its a woman.

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October 14, 2022, 03:03:19 AM
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Just another update on this huge women's unification fight,

The official full press conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxnbGRtmvWM

and again, these ladies are not shy about bad mouthing and talking trash to each other. And so the build up is still continuing. I suggest boxing fans watch this fight.

Same with Mayer & Baumgardner.

Face-off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OL5h5efwBU

Nice. Thanks for the links mate. The trash-talking and bad-mouthing make this event even more interesting aside from being unification fights. And I really hope they can offer us exciting fights and not boring ones. Shields has the 3 belts and the Ring but she seemed insecure and is so sensitive. She'll probably fight back when a dog bark at her. Cheesy

What I expected earlier is starting to happen although a little late as the betting odds are now starting to slide slowly in favor of Shields. Shields obviously got the upper hand due to her vast experiences at the amateur and at the pro level. The same with Mayer but I think Baumgarder is too underestimated here. I am not missing these fights and I do hope Marshall and Baumgardner knock out their separate foes this weekend.

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October 14, 2022, 07:16:30 PM
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I know you gotta like it, hehehe.

Yes, the trash talking though, I don't know, but if we see those ladies trash talking like that, it seems to be very different. You can sense the animosity between these women. They really don't like each other and it make this fight a must watch for us boxing fans.

For sure, I also wanted to see a vicious knock out in this 2 fights.

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October 14, 2022, 09:19:37 PM
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I know you gotta like it, hehehe.

Yes, the trash talking though, I don't know, but if we see those ladies trash talking like that, it seems to be very different. You can sense the animosity between these women. They really don't like each other and it make this fight a must watch for us boxing fans.

For sure, I also wanted to see a vicious knock out in this 2 fights.

Between Savannah and Marshall, it goes way back since their amateur days and it heightens when Savannah becomes a world champion too, honesty both ladies can be considered a candidate to be the GWOAT after this fight, she is the last woman standing in the woman boxing I don't see any new face that can challenge between the two it really goes up between the two,

Like Peter Fury once said all the other women in boxing are on shitloads only these two women stand up as the real deal in women's boxing, hopefully, I can watch this historical fight as it unfolds who is really the greatest.

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October 14, 2022, 10:10:06 PM
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Claressa Shields said she felt like she was fighting the judges, the referee and the crowd when she fought Marshall in the amateurs.

I worry about her mental health, she sounds a bit paranoid.

Claressa Shields is the better athlete and more skilled boxer.

But has mental issues and doesn't seem to be surrounded by good people or a good community that would help to keep her centered.

Marshall is the opposite, less skilled and inferior athlete. But has smart and good people around her to keep her from being paranoid or going crazy.
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October 15, 2022, 03:29:06 AM
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Claressa Shields said she felt like she was fighting the judges, the referee and the crowd when she fought Marshall in the amateurs.

I worry about her mental health, she sounds a bit paranoid.

Claressa Shields is the better athlete and more skilled boxer.

But has mental issues and doesn't seem to be surrounded by good people or a good community that would help to keep her centered.

Marshall is the opposite, less skilled and inferior athlete. But has smart and good people around her to keep her from being paranoid or going crazy.

I also noticed that she seems not relaxed and always off guard, she's trying to prove that she's great while making Marshall inferior, she doesn't have to do that she's an accomplished boxer no woman in boxing has achieved what she has achieved, I think she threatens the way Savannah reminds her of her only career loss back in the amateur when it has no impact on this fight, she should compose herself going into the fight, she has all the skill to beat Savannah today is the fight hopefully I can watch this fight to see if it lives up the hype.

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