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July 08, 2022, 11:07:13 AM
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What do you get from doing this everything you do on Stake.com are recorded your IP your bets your history your location, you may not encounter issues right now but when you won a big amount and want to withdraw they will point all your violations, you don't take for granted what Stake.com can do they have proven that once they disable and ban your account it is backed by strong pieces of evidence, so stop doing this and change your way before its too late.
that means you are giving a solid advice to people will never encountered with stake.com platform but in actual sense when you violate the law or a procedures of a particular site they notify you through email address that you have violated their rules. So that your steak all the money you deposited to play the bed will you not be a West of money for this method I'm seeing many of them introduce by allying you 2 break their law and after you might mean a bigger money in the platform they will face you with the laws are broken and they want to have access to make a withdrawal. That is very bad and then looking at it very well I will see you that is on other phones off dividing funds.
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July 08, 2022, 12:35:23 PM
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Stake is not capable of tracing users with different accounts because IP can easily be hidden using a VPN. Stake is not responsible for your addiction, you may "self exclude" yourself but you didn't mean it since you have violated yourself, so deal with the consequences of gambling addiction.

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July 08, 2022, 12:53:36 PM
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Stake is not capable of tracing users with different accounts because IP can easily be hidden using a VPN. Stake is not responsible for your addiction, you may "self exclude" yourself but you didn't mean it since you have violated yourself, so deal with the consequences of gambling addiction.
It is very hard for a casino or gambling platform to track users especially those who have multiple accounts. A user can decided to use VPN to login to accounts and play games without any difficult especially for decentralized crypto gambling platforms. Everything is becoming decentralized and many Casinos are not interested in watching your movement except sometimes is wrong somewhere.

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July 08, 2022, 01:37:01 PM
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Don't underestimate Stake.com they have proven their capability in tracking these cheaters, you just have to check the scam section and see for yourself how Stake.com address these issues with proof and evidence but I'd like to see Stake.com's answer on this issue, but for me, I don't think they are ignoring these cheaters, they will just surprise them on the right time.

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July 08, 2022, 01:42:22 PM
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Stake is not capable of tracing users with different accounts because IP can easily be hidden using a VPN. Stake is not responsible for your addiction, you may "self exclude" yourself but you didn't mean it since you have violated yourself, so deal with the consequences of gambling addiction.
It is very hard for a casino or gambling platform to track users especially those who have multiple accounts. A user can decided to use VPN to login to accounts and play games without any difficult especially for decentralized crypto gambling platforms. Everything is becoming decentralized and many Casinos are not interested in watching your movement except sometimes is wrong somewhere.
Actually, crypto casinos started as fully decentralized but we are slowly transforming into centralized due to some regulations which require crypto casinos to make their customers comply with the KYC. Yes, there are still some casinos that allow us to gamble anonymously, we should stick with them and we have to understand how to manage the risk, not play the blame game.

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July 08, 2022, 02:00:27 PM
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In fact, the OP did not provide any evidence that he created many accounts in stake.com apart from his words, we have nothing else and how in general he tried to "fight" gambling addiction by creating new accounts.
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July 08, 2022, 02:49:22 PM
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Stake is not capable of tracing users with different accounts because IP can easily be hidden using a VPN. Stake is not responsible for your addiction, you may "self exclude" yourself but you didn't mean it since you have violated yourself, so deal with the consequences of gambling addiction.
It is very hard for a casino or gambling platform to track users especially those who have multiple accounts. A user can decided to use VPN to login to accounts and play games without any difficult especially for decentralized crypto gambling platforms. Everything is becoming decentralized and many Casinos are not interested in watching your movement except sometimes is wrong somewhere.

But they have an algorithm to their system if there's a suspicious account by that they can add those into their watch list of users' activity and by that if they think having a KYC is a must and you still have a balance probably you need to submit verification to proceed with the gambling activity.

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July 08, 2022, 02:59:54 PM
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Stake is not capable of tracing users with different accounts because IP can easily be hidden using a VPN. Stake is not responsible for your addiction, you may "self exclude" yourself but you didn't mean it since you have violated yourself, so deal with the consequences of gambling addiction.
It is very hard for a casino or gambling platform to track users especially those who have multiple accounts. A user can decided to use VPN to login to accounts and play games without any difficult, especially for decentralized crypto gambling platforms. Everything is becoming decentralized and many Casinos are not interested in watching your movement except sometimes is wrong somewhere.

But they have an algorithm to their system if there's a suspicious account by that they can add those into their watch list of users' activity and by that if they think having a KYC is a must and you still have a balance probably you need to submit verification to proceed with the gambling activity.
The problem of ops is more of an addiction and not multi-accounting, because, in the long run, all those accounts are going to be blocked by the stake security team because there has been a violation of their terms and conditions. I hope to see the iOS returning to complain about the total ban of his accounts, what ops need is personal determination to stay away from gambling because casinos are after revenue generation and may take longer to notice small IP violations unless there is a big winning.
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July 08, 2022, 03:06:29 PM
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Like what the others have said, it's all on you and your responsibility if you really want to quit and get away from them. There's the point that you're addressing that anyone is free to make as many accounts as they can.

But, they can tackle that on their own and you don't have to be worried of it, thinking all along because they have their own system of doing that.

Well, if it pertains to addiction and you have it and even you do self-exclusion, you'll really find a way to gamble again no matter what feature they have.

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July 08, 2022, 04:03:41 PM
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I'm sure that Stake is already aware of what you're doing. There are lots of rules from their TOS that you have broken and obviously, the mistake isn't at Stake but your abusive activity. I'm not sure if you're just trying to explore things on their site but it's best if you will quit and stop creating accounts there. Your Ip or even your VPNs will be banned soon. Also, you're still underage and gambling isn't good for you.
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July 08, 2022, 05:03:48 PM
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In fact, the OP did not provide any evidence that he created many accounts in stake.com apart from his words,
I never tried but I guess you can create accounts as many as you want if you keep changing your IP-address.

we have nothing else and how in general he tried to "fight" gambling addiction by creating new accounts.
To be honest, I haven't saw a gambler who keeps on creating more accounts to quit gambling.  Cheesy
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July 08, 2022, 05:19:26 PM
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So what do you suggest OP, what do you think they can do to stop you from creating new accounts without affecting other players/users?
In order to detect any new account you create, they will either have to close registration for new users (which is out of question) or they will have to enforce kyc and ask every new user to verify his identity which most users won't like and we will see many complaints. And even then, am sure you will find a way to get around such restrictions.
A friendly advice, try talking with your family or close friends about your gambling problems, they may help you.

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July 08, 2022, 05:20:53 PM
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Stake is a good and secured site, that’s why many gamblers are trying to use VPN to experience the site even if they are not allowed. If OP is doing the same thing, then Stake can’t control that anymore because its already addiction and probably even if Stake banned your account, you can just easily create on another site and the problem continues. If you really want to get away from that addiction, better to talk to yourself and create a strategy on how to avoid gambling and how to control yourself.

Indeed! If OP just wanted to exclude himself then he should try and have a safe distance not just with Stake but to other casino platforms as well, he already admits that he's addicted to gambling already and that takes quite courage to admit it. The final resort is to control himself and have another hobby/habit where it's much more positive.

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July 08, 2022, 05:46:34 PM
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If we take a look to the TOS you will realize they don't allow multiple accounts:

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You are allowed to have only one Stake Account. If you attempt to open more than one Stake Account, all of your accounts may be blocked, suspended or closed and any crypto amount credited to your account/s will be frozen.

If any user decide to create multiple accounts, there will be a risk of loosing all of them with their founds. The risk doesn't worth it. Even if you change your IP on each account there is a risk of get tracked by cookies.

Always read the terms guys. It's what a user need to do every time you try a new casino:
https://stake.com/policies/terms

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July 08, 2022, 05:53:57 PM
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Stake is a good and secured site, that’s why many gamblers are trying to use VPN to experience the site even if they are not allowed. If OP is doing the same thing, then Stake can’t control that anymore because its already addiction and probably even if Stake banned your account, you can just easily create on another site and the problem continues. If you really want to get away from that addiction, better to talk to yourself and create a strategy on how to avoid gambling and how to control yourself.

Indeed! If OP just wanted to exclude himself then he should try and have a safe distance not just with Stake but to other casino platforms as well, he already admits that he's addicted to gambling already and that takes quite courage to admit it. The final resort is to control himself and have another hobby/habit where it's much more positive.
Stake.com has nothing to do with the OP addiction even if he spends millions of Dollars building new accounts just betting every day. Stake.com is not a service to quit gambling addiction. As much as possible for whatever reason it's not Stake.com job. So apart from self-exclusion what the OP did was purely his own fault for not being able to control his gambling.

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July 08, 2022, 06:08:49 PM
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No other site allows you to do this.
Is this a joke?
Just so you know, almost all gambling sites allows this. They do not restrict any creation of new accounts regardless if you have created an account through a VPN, original IP, same/different device, or any other way to create an account. But hey, remember that they have terms about multi accounting Wink
To me, it looks like you're just messing with Stake and haven't really have any real problem with them. I don't know, I'm just guessing based from your context.
Regardless, the problem is yourself not Stake. Above all, I highly believe that this case is NOT REAL.

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So I decided to have a bit of fun on stake casino. From a little fun turned into a huge addiction. Like every other site I decided to permanently exclude myself from stake. Only issue is that I was literally able to make another account on stake within 10minutes. All it takes is a new fake email and fake name and I'm back to gambling.  I've lost count to how many accounts I've made because I always wanted to end the madness. I would actually tell them hey I'm using a VPN, hey I'm 16 and playing here for them to ban me from they're sites but I just kept making new accounts and kept playing. 
How are they allowed to do this? Why am I able to make as many accounts as I want to continue gambling. I've self excluded again but I guarantee that in 2weeks time I'll.be back making a new account gambling. No other site allows you to do this. How will stake address this issue of players who permanently self exclude themselves but continue to make new accounts. I've actually got it down that I'm able to make a new account and play within 10minutes. It's a joke. I'm scared of what will happen.....

You aren't tricking Stake casino, you are tricking yourself.  Anyone can register and deposit to play in any online casino but the restriction would be on withdrawing your winning if you are able to win a huge sum of money.  Aside from that, it is concerning that you blame stake for your uncontrollable urge to gamble.  It is actually a sign of deep gambling addiction.

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I'm scared of what will happen....

You should be, since gambling addiction is hard to treat, others said once you got it, it is implanted to you for a life time.  All the gambling addiction specialist can do is to advice treatment that will control your gambling addiction.  You should get help ASAP and stop fooling around.
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July 08, 2022, 07:55:31 PM
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What do you get from doing this everything you do on Stake.com are recorded your IP your bets your history your location, you may not encounter issues right now but when you won a big amount and want to withdraw they will point all your violations, you don't take for granted what Stake.com can do they have proven that once they disable and ban your account it is backed by strong pieces of evidence, so stop doing this and change your way before its too late.
First, the OP appears to have a gambling addiction problem and the earlier she get help better for her and her family.
Having said that, what she doesn't understand is that every casino has its rules and regulations which they operated on in the aspect of user violating with multiple accounts because nothing will happen now until the casino have something tangible hook her.

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July 08, 2022, 07:59:56 PM
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Why the hell should they stress you or make it so difficult to open an account when it's customers they want at OP. It's the main reason why they run a promotion here (signature campaigns) and having a rather difficult process to an account registration is a one time pass for prospective customers to seek patronage on other competing sites.
It's very wrong of you at OP to create an account, have it deactivated, only to create another one in few minutes, hours or days as the need applies. Users like you at OP calls fir a mandatory KYC as you are rather abusing the system and maing things difficult for everyone. Perhaps you could live an account be if it's useless at a time and use it when the need arises. Who knows, it might have some promotional bonuses on it.

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July 08, 2022, 08:22:51 PM
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Not sure what they can do to help someone going out of their way to avoid detection, gambling is everywhere in alot of countries.    Even if you moved to a part of the world where gambling is banned outright for religious reasons and so on, you will still find underground gambling games and people throwing dice in back alleys.   There is no escape from personal responsibility that I know of, avoid temptation and occupy yourself with an outside job take up deep sea fishing but probably every fishing boat they play cards too.

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