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July 08, 2022, 08:43:45 PM
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The sole responsibility of the player is to protect themself from getting addicted to games on gambling sites, even though some platforms have self-exclusion features. Even if stake blocks all your account you can still make new ones on other casinos so if you are not determined by yourself you may still fall back into your addiction.
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July 08, 2022, 08:50:27 PM
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A site can never always do everything it can to ensure that a player can create accounts again. If a player would like to continue gambling after exclusion, for example, it is not very difficult to create a new account via a proxy server, for example. Certainly in combination with the KYC, which will only be requested later. So I think it's mainly the player's responsibility to make sure he doesn't create other accounts. If he does, you can't possibly put the blame on the site.

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July 08, 2022, 09:45:28 PM
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What do you get from doing this everything you do on Stake.com are recorded your IP your bets your history your location, you may not encounter issues right now but when you won a big amount and want to withdraw they will point all your violations, you don't take for granted what Stake.com can do they have proven that once they disable and ban your account it is backed by strong pieces of evidence, so stop doing this and change your way before its too late.

Ahahahaha, good explanation. man. I think this is enough good reason to stop play on Stake (if you're OP and don't want to play anymore, ofc)  Cheesy

This is typical practice within casinos. They know you're violating something but they want you to spend your money. If you win - you're get in trouble. Otherwise - no problem. Until you start to win, as i said

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July 08, 2022, 11:49:30 PM
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So I decided to have a bit of fun on stake casino. From a little fun turned into a huge addiction...

Despite their efforts to promote a sustainable and helpful means to combat gambling addiction, remember that they are still a company that is profit-driven.

The problem here is not Stake, but your overall attitude in gambling. While it may be easy to create an account on their website, your addiction is what keeps you from coming back and registering on them. You are only 16 years old- your have a life that is way more than gambling. Try your best to change your habits and create some sort of discipline.

If you are having trouble to control this, then I highly suggest you consult with your parents about this in order to prevent yourself from becoming addicted further.

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July 09, 2022, 01:00:15 AM
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Let's say this thread can help you start to be honest with yourself, show your gaming patterns or more specifically info daily of your habits...etc. but coming to tell us that a specific casino cannot prevent you from playing, because basically you think you are breaking the rules and they don't stop you... ok, but that gives me to see you in another attitude...

You are a troll, as others have already commented... the issue of addictions is something very serious and the solution is never in the casino, once in a while not even in the professional help that you can receive, it is the family or a friend who is by your side to prevent you from retaking the bets without control.

* by the way make accounts in the forum too is easy.
**Seek help for your addiction / obsession, your recurring behavior identify you with an obsessive pattern of denial.

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July 09, 2022, 03:34:37 PM
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Is this a joke OP? I understand that something must be done for Stake to manage their self-exclude program properly but is that really a necessary thing to happen first before someone will stop gambling? In your everyday lives, it's quite difficult to imagine that no Gambling-related thing you will encounter for a week.

Come on, help yourself. You even visit a gambling section therefore you always have access to gambling-related things if you really want.

If you can't do something about your problem, don't find other reasons why you can't move forward.

I don't even think you are that addicted as you can still post properly.
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July 10, 2022, 05:44:04 AM
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So I decided to have a bit of fun on stake casino. From a little fun turned into a huge addiction. Like every other site I decided to permanently exclude myself from stake. Only issue is that I was literally able to make another account on stake within 10minutes. All it takes is a new fake email and fake name and I'm back to gambling.  I've lost count to how many accounts I've made because I always wanted to end the madness. I would actually tell them hey I'm using a VPN, hey I'm 16 and playing here for them to ban me from they're sites but I just kept making new accounts and kept playing. 
How are they allowed to do this? Why am I able to make as many accounts as I want to continue gambling. I've self excluded again but I guarantee that in 2weeks time I'll.be back making a new account gambling. No other site allows you to do this. How will stake address this issue of players who permanently self exclude themselves but continue to make new accounts. I've actually got it down that I'm able to make a new account and play within 10minutes. It's a joke. I'm scared of what will happen.....
I am going to be direct with you, you have way bigger problems than the self-exclusion system of stake not being as good as the system in other casinos, even if it was then you will just gamble in another casino and keep gambling anyway, so this is not really a problem that can be solved by stake improving their self-exclusion, even if that is something they should do, you need professional help and fast, you are quite young so I think you could make a full recovery with the right help and the support of your family, but stop trying to shift the blame away otherwise you are never going to recover from your gambling addiction.
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July 10, 2022, 08:28:34 AM
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I find this very disturbing and risky for those who take for granted the security measures employed by casinos, I have seen scam accusations unable to withdraw because of multi-accounting then denying they have double accounts on the casino, they forget or ignore that every account login is recorded be it you log in after a year or two years, then you encounter an issue when you try to withdraw because you're hit with amnesia that you forgot that you have another account years back, the database never forgets.


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July 10, 2022, 08:59:11 AM
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I find this very disturbing and risky for those who take for granted the security measures employed by casinos, I have seen scam accusations unable to withdraw because of multi-accounting then denying they have double accounts on the casino, they forget or ignore that every account login is recorded be it you log in after a year or two years, then you encounter an issue when you try to withdraw because you're hit with amnesia that you forgot that you have another account years back, the database never forgets.
Yeah same as my concern mate because this is about the security that we are caring here , and also their system does not giving big value on how gamblers move , but once they Hit Jackpot then surely that other account will be banned and the funds will be taken.

but other than that? also OP is seems to be super addict and he cannot help Himself from gambling and continues to find way to bet.

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What do you get from doing this everything you do on Stake.com are recorded your IP your bets your history your location, you may not encounter issues right now but when you won a big amount and want to withdraw they will point all your violations, you don't take for granted what Stake.com can do they have proven that once they disable and ban your account it is backed by strong pieces of evidence, so stop doing this and change your way before its too late.
Where have you seen it is backed by strong pieces of evidence when Stake do this kind of thing please? Could you quote a post or give a link of a thread where they have shown this kind of "strong evidences" according to you? Unfortunately I didn't see much professionalism from their part on this matter. Contrariwise, they seem to abuse their own rule to lock funds of legit winners while not doing anything as long as their customers are losing their money.

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July 10, 2022, 10:32:52 AM
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Hoping that this exposure will bring the attention of Stake.com of what they are missing in this part , imagine letting players creating multiple account like what OP is trying to mention here.
maybe His main concern here is not about Him addicting to gamble but what is missing in Stake security and operations.

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July 10, 2022, 12:35:39 PM
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OP seems to be an addict because he is keeping on creating new accounts while he still wants to stop gambling.
He wants to get himself banned but he's using the wrong way to stop gambling.
Telling others on stake that he's using VPN and is 16 gives out a bad impression on others.
In fact he is in a way encouraging others to do the same things. OP should stop doing these activities.
obviously he is a perfect example of an addicted gambler , he even admitted everything that he is doing , from pretending to be a Minor, and even telling the site that he is using VPN , this is a clear proof that he is having a mental problem towards gambling.
and also seems like he is making this story against Stake.com? because why continuously creating account in Stake.com when there are many gambling site that he can try and play?

I think he's just bored... I don't know how he doesn't hate opening new mail and casino accounts every time? He probably has too much free time and a lot of energy that he spends on stupid things, as we can see. It would be better for him to look for something smarter to do, something useful that could fulfill him! If he keeps banging his head against the wall, he will hurt himself!

Obviously he has a lot of free time as he mentioned he's just 16. I think he's not even placing any major bets because that would require a big deposit.
So creating multiple accounts he is just abusing the system on Stake platform.
As long as he is not depositing any big amount he's good but once he deposits a big amount I think Stake will try to freeze his money.
This will teach him a lesson may be.

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July 12, 2022, 07:21:45 AM
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Even if Stake has multi-layers to fence off most of the alt-account tricks, he would seek other betting sites and attempt the same bypass tricks to meet his impure and gambling addict. Heck, He can make one account per any betting site and be done with it. Why would he lament on Stake only for its poor screening against alt-account tricks? Seems like it wasn't betting sites problem but his.
That's what I'm saying because he will continue finding another place to gamble and yes His addiction will not stop unless it is on His own desire and doing .

We should understand that Gambling site is a Business that will never end, there are site that may close but there will always new one that will pop up so the cycle is the same and this is how it will work.

Gambling is always a gambling and gambler will always gamble.

Hoping that this exposure will bring the attention of Stake.com
well Either stake or Op's mistake yet there are some things must be taken in to consideration from this topic.

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July 12, 2022, 09:50:04 AM
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even if you can make multiple accounts in any gambling sites? yet you will suffer in the future mate , because once you become lucky to win bigger amount then you'll  remember this things that you've done when the casino tells you and banned your account while withdrawing or asks for your kyc .
remember that casinos online hates when we create multiple accounts and you will only find this when your funds stocked and you cant take because of your past actions .

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July 12, 2022, 10:34:03 AM
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So I decided to have a bit of fun on stake casino. From a little fun turned into a huge addiction. Like every other site I decided to permanently exclude myself from stake. Only issue is that I was literally able to make another account on stake within 10minutes. All it takes is a new fake email and fake name and I'm back to gambling.  I've lost count to how many accounts I've made because I always wanted to end the madness. I would actually tell them hey I'm using a VPN, hey I'm 16 and playing here for them to ban me from they're sites but I just kept making new accounts and kept playing. 
How are they allowed to do this? Why am I able to make as many accounts as I want to continue gambling. I've self excluded again but I guarantee that in 2weeks time I'll.be back making a new account gambling. No other site allows you to do this. How will stake address this issue of players who permanently self exclude themselves but continue to make new accounts. I've actually got it down that I'm able to make a new account and play within 10minutes. It's a joke. I'm scared of what will happen.....
You will say its easy until your withdrawals put on hold and customer support will say you violated the rules so the funds won't be returned which sounds fun or harsh? Its you trying to bypass the registration with fake email and proxy IP but at some point you will get caught and the loss will be for you and no one can be blamed for that.

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July 12, 2022, 11:11:33 AM
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Idk, pretty sure it's not only stakes responsibility to do something about the problem, it's also yours?  They already did something about your og account, you making more is basically ruining the fix that they did.

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You're deliberately tempting Stake and challenging their security measures anyone can do that and make it look easy just like what you're doing, but the hardest part is when you tried to withdraw and you have been tracked as deliberately cheating and breaking the rule and you will have a lot of explaining to do, never underestimate Stake or any casinos for that matter.

This is a business model where the client's details and actions within their system are tracked, analyze, and evaluated, you are already tracked, they don't give you a warning yet but you soon will and when that comes you'll regret it.

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This is a business model where the client's details and actions within their system are tracked, analyze, and evaluated, you are already tracked, they don't give you a warning yet but you soon will and when that comes you'll regret it.
I don't understand what's the point you've talked about, this like you're trying to attack Stake and also other casinos since they're allow you to deposit and wouldn't allow you to withdraw which is scam website.

Well, I'm a regular gambler on Stake and it doesn't work like that. Stake always allow me to withdraw even the amount that I feel is can be said as big amount, if you have looked their twitter, you will know how much they pay to lucky gamblers.

This matter isn't about the casino only, but the person who need to control himself.

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July 12, 2022, 05:47:58 PM
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Idk, pretty sure it's not only stakes responsibility to do something about the problem, it's also yours?  They already did something about your og account, you making more is basically ruining the fix that they did.

Gambing addiction is not only the problem of casinos, it's also the problem of the involved person and blaming them like this simply pushes the responsibility away.
What happens is that in this day and age we live in a society that likes to push the blame away and point fingers at anyone but themselves, and this is something that some people find to be incredibly convenient.

However there is a big problem with that and that is that when it comes to addictions you need to recognize that you have a problem and that you are the only one that can solve it, if you do not go through that process then it is basically going to be possible for that person to beat their addictions regardless of what system casinos employ to try to disallow them to create new accounts in their websites.
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Creating of account is easier one in almost all the casino.Actually in some casino, they allow you to play without kyc. It doesn't mean, they are not a trusted casino.The thing is they want to flexible their site for the users.
Secondly you had mentioned as 16 year old,So it's better to quit the game.Because you may play the game with your parents money.After 18 years, you may stand with your funds.So after 18 you can play with the casino with your own money, it's the suggestion.If you play with your own money, it will be enough for your full enjoyment.

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