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July 10, 2022, 07:20:09 AM |
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do you know any good projects where i don't have to invest any money and can earn crypto by playing (p2e)? im looking for such crypto projects. thanks in advance for good suggestions.
There ia one am aware of, sweatcoin - a move to earn project where you get rewarded for actively moving around, the project is not in any trading exchange yet, you can only accumulate the tokens pending when they get listed in any of the exchange. You will have to download the app first, do some registration to get started. it doesn't require any investment for now.
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July 10, 2022, 09:35:46 AM |
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You should understand how macro finance and micro finance work. If you understand them and realize that for an economy to work, there are inflows and outflows.
Play to Earn has more outflows than inflows. There are inflows that are not enough to cover sell pressure from outflows. Gamers can buy NFTs with their inflows but they can play to earn forever. Most of play to earn games don't restrict how long gamers can earn. Even if they have that restriction, sell pressure is still big.
If a game producer can not balance inflows and outflows, that Play to Earn token will be dumped.
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July 10, 2022, 12:47:20 PM |
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do you know any good projects where i don't have to invest any money and can earn crypto by playing (p2e)? im looking for such crypto projects. thanks in advance for good suggestions.
I will try to list some for you. 1. GMT aka stepn, you can earn from running for free and what you need to rent the shoes from others and you will be able to earning a few dollars from there. that's free but you need to agreed with the owner of shoes about sharing earning mechanism. 2. Vulcan forged was also implementing the same thing like that. You can earn lava by playing the game for free and your lava can be exchanged into the stable token.
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July 10, 2022, 03:31:59 PM |
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most of the time you need to invest in the game, because otherwise there's hardly any games that didn't require you to invest first in order for you to earn. the way most of these games works and have sustaining economic model is because you are quite literally required in making an investment so that there's flow of investment going in. most of the games like axie infinity and the likes that have been mentioned always requires some kind of initial investment first since otherwise it's definitely isn't worth your time at all.
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July 10, 2022, 03:40:58 PM |
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do you know any good projects where i don't have to invest any money and can earn crypto by playing (p2e)? im looking for such crypto projects. thanks in advance for good suggestions.
The hype that play to earn tokens and games generated is on the low side at the moment, so even if you could play for free some of those games you are not going to find many people that are interested in those games anymore, and if there is no interest coming from the community then those games will sooner or later fail, so I would not recommend to you that you invest your time in those tokens as I sincerely believe that you will just waste your time if you do so.
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July 10, 2022, 06:24:20 PM |
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do you know any good projects where i don't have to invest any money and can earn crypto by playing (p2e)? im looking for such crypto projects. thanks in advance for good suggestions.
The hype that play to earn tokens and games generated is on the low side at the moment, so even if you could play for free some of those games you are not going to find many people that are interested in those games anymore, and if there is no interest coming from the community then those games will sooner or later fail, so I would not recommend to you that you invest your time in those tokens as I sincerely believe that you will just waste your time if you do so. Yes, because in addition to the popularity of the project and the possibility of earning these tokens, you also need to consider the liquidity of these tokens. The project may promise to earn 1000 tokens a month for spending time in its game, and when the player gets them, he will certainly want to sell them, but will face the problem that either these tokens are not traded anywhere, or there is no demand for these tokens, but only one offer to sell. Bounty hunters who participated in questionable bounties faced a similar problem. Tokens were issued to them, as promised, but these tokens were left lying around in their wallets because there was nowhere to sell them.
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July 10, 2022, 07:06:47 PM |
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try out STEPN since it just requires you running I guess it's gonna suits for most of the casual people. the thing with axie infinity is that it requires you grinding in their boring games and the longer you gamed in axie infinity it becomes like a chore, with stepn at least you have the chance of making yourself healthy so I guess it's a better choice. regardless though, most of these NFTs projects are already losing most of its value so consider
Step-n is a walk to earn but what the op wants is a play to earn however to some people including you, walking can be fun and indeed that it is much better than playing a video game because we are exercising our body. I only don't know though if step-n was still profitable during this bear season and the project is also a bit old right? So, it's hype must have died a little. It's kinda interesting how crypto trend is evolving and who would have thought that we will end up on a walk to earn? Next to play to earn. On the other hand, axie might look boring to you because maybe you are into other game genres but for someone that grows with pokemon and turn-based games then they are fine with the game. The only issue right now in axie is it's price which have dumped a lot.
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July 10, 2022, 07:24:19 PM |
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Earning without investment on gaming platforms is very, very difficult. Even when you play a normal game, you can't get stronger if you don't invest money and buy in-game items. After all, we are talking about making money without investment. Can't you win? Of course you can win, but it will take so long that it is doubtful that the game will continue until then. In short, it is unlikely that you will make money without investing money.
Yes, as you said, every game requires investment. Among the games I played, there were free2play games that did not require any investment, but when the market fell, the price of the tokens in the game fell, and the hype ended and started to fail. I think the quality of the games is so low that the money spent on game developers is very funny. Currently, they are using the play2earn system to raise funds very quickly, so it is a waste of both time and money, I agree, but there will be good projects, I think they should be evaluated separately.
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July 10, 2022, 08:59:34 PM |
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You should understand how macro finance and micro finance work. If you understand them and realize that for an economy to work, there are inflows and outflows.
Play to Earn has more outflows than inflows. There are inflows that are not enough to cover sell pressure from outflows. Gamers can buy NFTs with their inflows but they can play to earn forever. Most of play to earn games don't restrict how long gamers can earn. Even if they have that restriction, sell pressure is still big.
If a game producer can not balance inflows and outflows, that Play to Earn token will be dumped.
I highly agree. Take AXIE Infinity as an example. Axie Infinity had a huge userbase and had been popular for some time now. There are times that the inflow outweigh the outflow when the project got popular but it wasn't sustainable because at one point those who are involved in the inflow will somehow be involved with the outflow in the future. And when that happen, the reward token called SLP took the hit. Dumping from $0.399727 down to $0.0039. The same thing will happen to all P2E games that have the same reward system as Axie. Unless the game developer implements in-game purchases and forever in-demand, and set the profit of those purchases to support the token. Then the result will be different.
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July 11, 2022, 12:35:12 AM |
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It's better if you are not focusing with play to earn. Sometime it can be very boring with the boring games. I meant you must also aware if move to earn was also offering very good reward at this moment. I thihnk that if there are bunch of games that can give you free money. Sometime even the game like axie can give you free money as long as you can be active to find axie school.
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July 11, 2022, 08:12:35 AM |
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I highly agree. Take AXIE Infinity as an example. Axie Infinity had a huge userbase and had been popular for some time now. There are times that the inflow outweigh the outflow when the project got popular but it wasn't sustainable because at one point those who are involved in the inflow will somehow be involved with the outflow in the future. And when that happen, the reward token called SLP took the hit. Dumping from $0.399727 down to $0.0039. The same thing will happen to all P2E games that have the same reward system as Axie. Unless the game developer implements in-game purchases and forever in-demand, and set the profit of those purchases to support the token. Then the result will be different.
I think even if the devs have made a perfect economy for Axie, they just can't skip the strength of a bear market. And we all know that most projects are drowning and affected when it comes to the bear market. It's true that many of these P2E/NFT games are hard to be sustained if the userbase has become huge and that's what other projects have to learn from these successful P2E games. I don't know if they will still be a thing in the next years.
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July 11, 2022, 07:45:53 PM |
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I think even if the devs have made a perfect economy for Axie, they just can't skip the strength of a bear market. Talking about the perfect economy, i take it as self-sufficient so in my opinion, it won't be affected by any outside market. Since it is perfect it can support the system itself and is unaffected by the bear market. Let us not blame the bear market for the incompetent decisions of the developer that affects the project market performance. And we all know that most projects are drowning and affected when it comes to the bear market. It's true that many of these P2E/NFT games are hard to be sustained if the userbase has become huge and that's what other projects have to learn from these successful P2E games.
It is hard to sustain because it needs more people to come in to support the earlier joiners. The reward system of most P2E is designed as a Ponzi-like scheme. I don't know if they will still be a thing in the next years. They might change the name or terms of the trend to hook up everyone again. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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July 11, 2022, 11:04:57 PM |
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You should understand how macro finance and micro finance work. If you understand them and realize that for an economy to work, there are inflows and outflows.
I kinda agree, most of the NFT gaming that have too much outflows like axie has been going under recently, it seems they couldn't contain the NFT generated and couldn't keep up with its demand considering most of the time the utility of these generated NFT from the game is bad. like SLP where it quite literally just become such valueless NFT after the correction since there are too many SLP generated from the game and now it's already losing majority of its value like 95%
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I think even if the devs have made a perfect economy for Axie, they just can't skip the strength of a bear market. And we all know that most projects are drowning and affected when it comes to the bear market. It's true that many of these P2E/NFT games are hard to be sustained if the userbase has become huge and that's what other projects have to learn from these successful P2E games. I don't know if they will still be a thing in the next years.
I disagree. Axie was always destined to fail, why? Because they have a system where you can breed infinitely, meaning you will eventually have so many axies working towards making money that, it will not be profitable to keep making it, and that would cause the inflation of the SLP and AXS and cause it to go down. Even with spending some money to breed that Axie, eventually some people will do it, and the number of Axies would have gone to "too many" side and that is what has happened. You cannot sustain such a thing and it would only be gone eventually. This is why we should never expect it to go on like this, we need to make sure that it never has the same issues again and axie would need to fix that mechanism in their game.
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July 13, 2022, 03:41:36 PM |
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I think even if the devs have made a perfect economy for Axie, they just can't skip the strength of a bear market. And we all know that most projects are drowning and affected when it comes to the bear market. It's true that many of these P2E/NFT games are hard to be sustained if the userbase has become huge and that's what other projects have to learn from these successful P2E games. I don't know if they will still be a thing in the next years.
I disagree. Axie was always destined to fail, why? Because they have a system where you can breed infinitely, meaning you will eventually have so many axies working towards making money that, it will not be profitable to keep making it, and that would cause the inflation of the SLP and AXS and cause it to go down. Even with spending some money to breed that Axie, eventually some people will do it, and the number of Axies would have gone to "too many" side and that is what has happened. You cannot sustain such a thing and it would only be gone eventually. This is why we should never expect it to go on like this, we need to make sure that it never has the same issues again and axie would need to fix that mechanism in their game. Quite honestly I do not think this is something that can be fixed at all, when we think of other games in which people make a living through them you see games that are loved by their gameplay and only a small minority of the gamers are making any money with the game itself while the rest just like to watch their favorite gamers and the crazy stuff they can do, however in those play to earn games which we see here almost everyone is in only for the money, which means the model is impossible to sustain and sooner or later it will collapse.
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July 13, 2022, 11:08:58 PM |
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I think even if the devs have made a perfect economy for Axie, they just can't skip the strength of a bear market. And we all know that most projects are drowning and affected when it comes to the bear market. It's true that many of these P2E/NFT games are hard to be sustained if the userbase has become huge and that's what other projects have to learn from these successful P2E games. I don't know if they will still be a thing in the next years.
Regardless of trend, eventually axie gonna lose its value considering how the mechanism of the game and its un sustaining economic model, you could've figured out that the SLP generated each day is already too much. Right now SLP has become somewhat useless, I guess that's just how most of the NFT games gonna become, regardless of the fame that it gains at the initial phase, most of them becomes un sustaining and eventually become shit coin at how overly inflated their supplies are.
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i have had some experiences so far and i have to say, without investing money, it is very difficult to earn something with p2e. anyway, thanks to everyone who gave me good suggestions. will test a few more projects, but it seems useless if you don't want to invest money. maybe i should try bounties again, but i had no luck and didn't earn anything. without money to trade crypto it's really hard to make even a few dollars in the crypto world.
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July 15, 2022, 11:10:31 PM |
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Goodluck playing P2E with "free-to-play" features. You can start at zero capital but you'll find out soon enough that most of them aren't really profitable. The game characters or NFTs you minted for free are too weak to compete against players who spent money to level up.
The price of their native tokens are down so you may consider buying them now and build before they start gaining traction again.
That's the reality of it, they offer free to earn but to be able to earn more and beat the other team and players you have to upgrade, this is why its free to earn this is a marketing ploy to entice people to play, experience the games and see it potentials and upgrade to maximize their earning potential, you cannot expect to make a lot of money as a free account, they also make money and they are making money from your upgrade.
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July 16, 2022, 03:29:46 PM |
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I think even if the devs have made a perfect economy for Axie, they just can't skip the strength of a bear market. And we all know that most projects are drowning and affected when it comes to the bear market. It's true that many of these P2E/NFT games are hard to be sustained if the userbase has become huge and that's what other projects have to learn from these successful P2E games. I don't know if they will still be a thing in the next years.
Regardless of trend, eventually axie gonna lose its value considering how the mechanism of the game and its un sustaining economic model, you could've figured out that the SLP generated each day is already too much. Right now SLP has become somewhat useless, I guess that's just how most of the NFT games gonna become, regardless of the fame that it gains at the initial phase, most of them becomes un sustaining and eventually become shit coin at how overly inflated their supplies are. Their model is basically a Ponzi scam with more steps and nothing more, in the case of bitcoin even if not a single new person ever invested in it bitcoin will still hold the majority of its current value and we could use it to transact with millions of people online, but in the case of play to earn tokens they needs constant influx of new players, and if at some point that dies down then their entire model collapses, which is exactly what happens with Ponzi schemes.
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I suggest that you explore 'Crypto Pirates' game. I have not played the game but there is a content on their website that suggests you may be able to play the game without first investing ( https://docs.crypto-pirates.app/introduce/goals). The game is about Pirates Adventure, it is a Play-to-Earn NFT gaming platform.
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