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Hi everyone, about a month ago I made a post about having insider info for a soccer match and I asked the community what the best way was to take out a large loan. I had a lot of people advise me not to do so, so I took your advice and didn't take out a loan, instead I just placed the amount I already had in my account. Anyway, the bet won easily so I couldn't help but feel like I should've taken out the loan... ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) You cannot blame anybody because you're the one who will make the final decision, but the rule is never to take a loan to gamble, what if you lose what if the tip is fake or if there was a change of plan, it's better to sell some of the things that you don't need than taking a loan, that way you just rid the things that you don't need and have money to gamble, there will be more tips coming what if you take a loan this time and end up that its a fake tip, we just ease up your burden so take the situation as is don't blame anyone or yourself.
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You cannot blame anybody because you're the one who will make the final decision, but the rule is never to take a loan to gamble, what if you lose what if the tip is fake or if there was a change of plan, it's better to sell some of the things that you don't need than taking a loan, that way you just rid the things that you don't need and have money to gamble, there will be more tips coming what if you take a loan this time and end up that its a fake tip, we just ease up your burden so take the situation as is don't blame anyone or yourself.
And if OP won that bet with the use of the loan, he will continue to take loans after loans since he thinks it was effective from the beginning. Not all inside tips are accurate. What if on that 95% probability to win, OP hits bad luck with the 5% chance of losing. He will end up broke on how to pay that loan. That's a worst-case scenario.
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July 23, 2022, 08:22:11 PM |
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You cannot blame anybody because you're the one who will make the final decision, but the rule is never to take a loan to gamble, what if you lose what if the tip is fake or if there was a change of plan, it's better to sell some of the things that you don't need than taking a loan, that way you just rid the things that you don't need and have money to gamble, there will be more tips coming what if you take a loan this time and end up that its a fake tip, we just ease up your burden so take the situation as is don't blame anyone or yourself.
And if OP won that bet with the use of the loan, he will continue to take loans after loans since he thinks it was effective from the beginning. Not all inside tips are accurate. What if on that 95% probability to win, OP hits bad luck with the 5% chance of losing. He will end up broke on how to pay that loan. That's a worst-case scenario. First time he did not take the loan and regret on his decision. How about he may take a loan now and again and try his luck on the next insider information. How unfortunate it would be if that information proves to be wrong and he loses the bet. My point is how he is so sure that the match results were already known to the insiders. How about the insiders just predicted the winner and luckily the winner was the same as predicted.
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July 23, 2022, 09:59:12 PM |
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How about the insiders just predicted the winner and luckily the winner was the same as predicted.
That's the common practice of those who want to sell their sports tip. They don't bet their money in real and will just predict who will win. And if quite some time that they were able to produce good winning stats they will now show their portfolio to people and will be claimed that their winning percentage is high. They will spread their words on most platforms as much as possible. Maybe OP was also relying on those kinds of tipsters that claimed to have inside tips on the fixed or rigged matches. If that's the real story, OP will surely be in trouble if he subscribed and follow that specific tip with the use of the loan and the result was lose.
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July 23, 2022, 10:12:20 PM |
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Hi everyone, about a month ago I made a post about having insider info for a soccer match and I asked the community what the best way was to take out a large loan. I had a lot of people advise me not to do so, so I took your advice and didn't take out a loan, instead I just placed the amount I already had in my account. Anyway, the bet won easily so I couldn't help but feel like I should've taken out the loan... ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) The rule of the thumb has always been and will always be to gamble with money that you can afford to lose, never gamble money that you just loaned, its very risky and you will be in a very bad situation that you will regret later on, that bet is right but there's no guaranty that the next tips are going to be the same, even if it's fixed you never know what's going on inside they might change the whole plan or revert their decision to fix the game, always be on the safe side and enjoy your bet.
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July 23, 2022, 10:21:14 PM |
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Think for a moment, that you had taken the loan, place the bet and lose the bet. Now you would be in trouble as you have to return the loan which you have already lost in the bet.
And the funny thing is, OP is not even trusting the inside information since if he is really sure about it, he will disregard all the advice that he needs to take the loan. OP is still afraid and doubtful that his inside information might not win. There's still a hesitation on his part that's why it makes me think now that inside information is not even reliable right from the start. Nice play, OP. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Probably hyping is own work, will never trust anyone saying that the match is fixed and having a loan for such bet it not good at all. Fixed matches is a bad image in sports, hopefully the regulator will closely monitor those rumors because if its true most probably they will suffer as well and penalty should impose right away. To OP, if you don't trust the signal don't make any excuses anymore just skip that offer and do your own analysis. Who are the regulators by the way? If you are referring to the management of a certain league then I think we will have a hard time achieving that goal as there are rumors that even the management is part of the big scam. I mean, these are just rumors, but what if it's true. Thing is, we haven't heard that there are plenty of people being punished for game fixing despite the fact that there are a lot of rumors in different sports.
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July 24, 2022, 06:43:02 AM |
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How about the insiders just predicted the winner and luckily the winner was the same as predicted.
That's the common practice of those who want to sell their sports tip. They don't bet their money in real and will just predict who will win. And if quite some time that they were able to produce good winning stats they will now show their portfolio to people and will be claimed that their winning percentage is high. They will spread their words on most platforms as much as possible. Maybe OP was also relying on those kinds of tipsters that claimed to have inside tips on the fixed or rigged matches. If that's the real story, OP will surely be in trouble if he subscribed and follow that specific tip with the use of the loan and the result was lose. If OP is sensible and reading these posts/tips, he will not take the loan for betting. He followed our advice previously too and did not take the loan so I think he will follow the same. However, after seeing some winnings, he may become greedy and take a loan for the bets, then again it will be risky indeed. Who knows he might win again but I am emphasizing that nothing is 100% confirm here and there is a lot of risk in the process.
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Hi everyone. Thanks for the responses! I didn't think anyone would respond so I haven't checked the forum in a little while. Update: I did end up taking out a loan for the 2nd match and I won both bets, the match ended 3-3 Question:
If you knew the result for a soccer match beforehand, how much would you risk on it and if you didn't have the funds, how would you maximize your risk in time before the match? Here's another match for those interested. I will be going all in again! (what could go wrong!) DENMARK SUPERLIGA
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Hi everyone. Thanks for the responses! I didn't think anyone would respond so I haven't checked the forum in a little while. Update: I did end up taking out a loan for the 2nd match and I won both bets, the match ended 3-3 Question:
If you knew the result for a soccer match beforehand, how much would you risk on it and if you didn't have the funds, how would you maximize your risk in time before the match? Here's another match for those interested. I will be going all in again! (what could go wrong!) DENMARK SUPERLIGA
10:00 AM ET
Brondby vs Nordsjaelland
Asian Total Over 3.5 @ 2.75
1st Half - Asian Total Over 1 @ 1.72match link: https://www.flashscore.com/match/MoBAdeIS/#/odds-comparison/over-under/full-timetelegram: footy888 another day, another winner ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) does anybody know a sportsbook where I can place big bets? (50k+) stake limited me ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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Hi everyone. Thanks for the responses! I didn't think anyone would respond so I haven't checked the forum in a little while. Update: I did end up taking out a loan for the 2nd match and I won both bets, the match ended 3-3 DENMARK SUPERLIGA
10:00 AM ET
Brondby vs Nordsjaelland
Asian Total Over 3.5 @ 2.75
1st Half - Asian Total Over 1 @ 1.72match link: https://www.flashscore.com/match/MoBAdeIS/#/odds-comparison/over-under/full-timetelegram: footy888 You sure a lucky guy that you win the match that you did a risk by loaning. If I were ask for advise if I would recommend loaning to bet, My answer would be same as anybody here in this forum. just don't. Question:
If you knew the result for a soccer match beforehand, how much would you risk on it and if you didn't have the funds, how would you maximize your risk in time before the match?
If the information of the match being fixed came from a reputable person or a person who put a large amount of money in the bet, I would probably put around 50% of my maximum bet budget. If my budget for that game is max $1k, I would probably put $1.5k in it since there's an information of a fixed match. I'm just trying to be safe about the amount that I will bet. If the information came from a very trusted person like the organizer or any insider that has done match making before. If I try to do it to maximum, I would probably go around 2-3x my budget. Though, Risk is still there.
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July 24, 2022, 05:16:17 PM |
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I do not support gambling with loans. Because once you win gambling, you may not win next time. Then you have to take the responsibility of that money. And you have to repay that loan. How will you repay the loan if you lose the money you borrowed for gambling? This will then put you under mental pressure. So always try to avoid loan for gambling.
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July 24, 2022, 07:43:44 PM |
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Hi everyone, about a month ago I made a post about having insider info for a soccer match and I asked the community what the best way was to take out a large loan. I had a lot of people advise me not to do so, so I took your advice and didn't take out a loan, instead I just placed the amount I already had in my account.
OP, the community will never advise or support you to take a loan to gamble because one of the rules in gambling is gambling with the amount you can afford to lose. When you take loans to gamble, the game may not turn out well for you, and to pay the first loan you may end up taking more loans and this may lead you to become not just an addicted gambler but also a debtor. But when you gamble with your money, you may not win but the pains and pressure will not be as much as someone who took a loan and has no means of paying it back. Remember the information you got about a particular game may fall you as most soccer tipsters use the past history of a particular club to predict the outcome of a current match. No reasonable person would think of taking loan or will be in support to take loan for gambling. The risk involved in gambling is high that it is impossible for one to predict the outcome of gambling. Taking loan to play gamble is like paying debt that the money was never used for anything. Sounds impossible but there are people who do really ending up with that kind of option or consideration just for them to make out some sports betting or even with online casino gaming which is totally absurd or dumb thing to be done by someone considering that you would be having high risk on losing those loaned amounts rather than on making it grow considering the risk involved in gambling then it is really just not smart on doing such move because you are potentially putting yourself to have a miserable future in terms of finances because you are making yourself getting fall into debt pit. I dont believe about fix matches information which do easily surfaced on or for someone to know.
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July 24, 2022, 07:48:04 PM |
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You will really feel the regret because of the outcome if it's good. But if you've lost that bet, you'll think that you did a good job for choosing not to take a loan because you have lost the money.
But anyway, it's good that you've won that bet and don't regret any decision if it ain't your money. That's okay if you're thinking that you should have taken a loan because it's already done but in a situation like having a crucial one.
You just did it right of not borrowing.
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July 24, 2022, 08:32:04 PM |
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I think it would be dependent on how much you trust the word of your "tipster" or "insider man" that you have. It's going to be a risk to take a large loan just to gamble it. You might regret it in the long run and you might have to pay for nothing. Imagine that outcome, would you want that?
Did you bet on the match that you have shared here?
Gambling will always be gambling, something that the house will always win. Well, you must be lucky in your first attempt but that won’t guarantee that the whole time you’ll gamble, you’ll eventually win. I guess it’s good enough that you never take a large loan, because if you do and you end up winning a huge amount, you’ll eventually take a loan again expecting that you’ll still be lucky. Taking loan is good if it’s necessary, but believe me it will never work in gambling, as you will only see yourself falling into gambling addiction in the end.
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Taking a loan for betting on matches is extreme irresponsibility. If I were you, I would first build capital and test whether the information you receive will work in the long term. If everything is all right then you should be able to raise quite a lot of money in short time and only then, with the money you won, bet all in. Remember that if you fail to do something like this now, and the risk is always there, you will regret it for a very long time, and maybe even for the rest of your life.
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July 24, 2022, 09:34:12 PM |
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Taking a loan for betting on matches is extreme irresponsibility. If I were you, I would first build capital and test whether the information you receive will work in the long term. If everything is all right then you should be able to raise quite a lot of money in short time and only then, with the money you won, bet all in. Remember that if you fail to do something like this now, and the risk is always there, you will regret it for a very long time, and maybe even for the rest of your life.
It will only makes the worst thing for him. Having a loan that just for the him to gamble is not a good idea, many things will come up after this. He needs to learn that there's no guarantee that he will get back the money or it will return 100% successful, his load will have an interest soon, I hope by reading this thread his plan will be change as early as possible, I hope he will learn that he should bet and gamble only the the money in his pocket or his extra money so that he will not regret it after.
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But anyway, it's good that you've won that bet and don't regret any decision if it ain't your money. That's okay if you're thinking that you should have taken a loan because it's already done but in a situation like having a crucial one.
You just did it right of not borrowing.
However, because OP won the bet, it might give him more confidence to bet with the use of loan money. OP now thinks that the information he got is reliable and always close to winning especially if the said match is going to be a fixed or rigged match. Aside from that, OP regrets that if only he takes out a loan, he is enjoying big profits right now. Because of what happened that he didn't take a loan but he won the bet, he won't likely want to slip away the next opportunity to bet on the fixed match with the use of loan money. All I can say is good luck to OP and be ready for the big consequences in case of losing the bet. That's your money, your rule, and the community's role is just to give advice.
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July 25, 2022, 12:00:21 AM Last edit: July 25, 2022, 01:34:53 AM by Theones |
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But anyway, it's good that you've won that bet and don't regret any decision if it ain't your money. That's okay if you're thinking that you should have taken a loan because it's already done but in a situation like having a crucial one.
You just did it right of not borrowing.
However, because OP won the bet, it might give him more confidence to bet with the use of loan money. OP now thinks that the information he got is reliable and always close to winning especially if the said match is going to be a fixed or rigged match. Aside from that, OP regrets that if only he takes out a loan, he is enjoying big profits right now. Because of what happened that he didn't take a loan but he won the bet, he won't likely want to slip away the next opportunity to bet on the fixed match with the use of loan money. All I can say is good luck to OP and be ready for the big consequences in case of losing the bet. That's your money, your rule, and the community's role is just to give advice. YEs - most of the time people are stressed and they want advice but at the end they go with what they want even if they know they are on wrong track... But of course - the owner has all the right to take care of their decision and how to deal with them. Good luck OP make a good decision
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Hi everyone, about a month ago I made a post about having insider info for a soccer match and I asked the community what the best way was to take out a large loan. I had a lot of people advise me not to do so, so I took your advice and didn't take out a loan, instead I just placed the amount I already had in my account. Anyway, the bet won easily so I couldn't help but feel like I should've taken out the loan... ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) The rule of the thumb has always been and will always be to gamble with money that you can afford to lose, never gamble money that you just loaned, its very risky and you will be in a very bad situation that you will regret later on, that bet is right but there's no guaranty that the next tips are going to be the same, even if it's fixed you never know what's going on inside they might change the whole plan or revert their decision to fix the game, always be on the safe side and enjoy your bet. Why does someone have to gamble when the funds is not yours? or i mean coming from Loan when there is no complete or assurance even if this is a Fixed matches because the chance of losing is always there and this is why its called gambling. and also those fixed matches does not comply with legit and fair gaming so better not to support those.
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July 25, 2022, 03:21:58 PM |
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Why does someone have to gamble when the funds is not yours? or i mean coming from Loan when there is no complete or assurance even if this is a Fixed matches because the chance of losing is always there and this is why its called gambling. and also those fixed matches does not comply with legit and fair gaming so better not to support those.
I think sometime we don't even know what is going on with us and we are just running after more and more money. Taking loans and putting ourself in more trouble. However the loan at this has reached at 33% interest rate and is the highest in the history even then people do take loan and loose them in bets.
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