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August 05, 2022, 12:57:58 AM
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Hi everyone, about a month ago I made a post about having insider info for a soccer match and I asked the community what the best way was to take out a large loan. I had a lot of people advise me not to do so, so I took your advice and didn't take out a loan, instead I just placed the amount I already had in my account.

I will also advise that you don't get a loan to gamble, the tip may be right this time but not all the time, and when you are gambling it should be money that you can afford to lose not coming from a loan if you got a loan and the tip turned out to be false, your life will be miserable gambling and loan is a bad combination, no company or person even if it's your close friend will lend you to gamble the risk is just too high.


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Anyway, the bet won easily so I couldn't help but feel like I should've taken out the loan... Sad
You should not feel sorry or blame the community, you did the right thing, even if the tip is an insider tip, it can still change.





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August 05, 2022, 01:29:22 AM
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Taking a loan for a bet seems way too risky to me, but OP might have a different risk profile.

Gambling in general has a negative expected value in the long term, so it just doesn't make much sense to me to get a loan for it.

OP can of course get lucky and win with the extra money, which would multiply the earnings, but the flip side of that, which would be more probable, is to lose more than everything you have...

One of the the most important things to remember while gambling is to avoid ruin.

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August 05, 2022, 04:07:47 AM
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Hi everyone, about a month ago I made a post about having insider info for a soccer match and I asked the community what the best way was to take out a large loan. I had a lot of people advise me not to do so, so I took your advice and didn't take out a loan, instead I just placed the amount I already had in my account.
For me, I can never encourage anyone taking a loan to play fixed matches, because winning fixed matches is always a 50/50 luck.  I once bought a fixed match on Telegram and it was a total scam, but actually I don't know the authenticity of your fixed matches, but I will join the others by saying you should always try to play these kind of games with the available funds you have in your wallet. I just checked your previous threads,  and I can see you have actually made a lot of money from sportbetting, looking at the previous screenshot you shared on the forum. So please never allow greed make you take a decision you will someday regret

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August 05, 2022, 05:35:07 AM
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Hi everyone, about a month ago I made a post about having insider info for a soccer match and I asked the community what the best way was to take out a large loan. I had a lot of people advise me not to do so, so I took your advice and didn't take out a loan, instead I just placed the amount I already had in my account.
For me, I can never encourage anyone taking a loan to play fixed matches, because winning fixed matches is always a 50/50 luck.  I once bought a fixed match on Telegram and it was a total scam, but actually I don't know the authenticity of your fixed matches, but I will join the others by saying you should always try to play these kind of games with the available funds you have in your wallet. I just checked your previous threads,  and I can see you have actually made a lot of money from sportbetting, looking at the previous screenshot you shared on the forum. So please never allow greed make you take a decision you will someday regret
Finally Op chose not to take a loan to bet and this is good, in another post he is looking for a bookmaker who allows him to be able to bet big, the max bet is quite high, meaning he already has enough funds and is thinking of looking for a loan maybe to be able to bet on a fixed match with a value which is bigger because it is sure to win 100% and this can already be said to be greedy actually gamblers are very difficult to escape from greed although not always but sometimes it appears when they can't control themselves.
Many service from telegram channel is scam so you should becareful.

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August 05, 2022, 02:00:12 PM
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Gambling in general has a negative expected value in the long term, so it just doesn't make much sense to me to get a loan for it.

Its not the gambling itself is negative but every game has a cost.  Every product or service known has some cost or entry fee to participate.    Its not like he has to be wrong on the bet in isolated view but consider that when he takes out a loan there is an added certainty of higher costs.
   So we can say right from the start the odds of the bet are worse off and that done regularly that will stack up against OP success in his planned profit.   Its a trade off, be very careful you really love the bet odds vs the rewards as in effect the odds are harder to beat with a loan cost.  Its not often I'am 'certain' of outcomes personally.

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August 05, 2022, 04:35:36 PM
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Taking a loan for betting is the first red flag. Saying it was because he has insider's info of fixed match is a second red flag. No one sane enough to do all of that, taking loans to bet on a match from insider's info. OP, you need to make sure you aren't into the scam that usually lures gamblers with 'insider's info of fixed match' and are willing to give gamblers a loan.
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August 05, 2022, 08:07:55 PM
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Taking a loan for betting is the first red flag. Saying it was because he has insider's info of fixed match is a second red flag. No one sane enough to do all of that, taking loans to bet on a match from insider's info. OP, you need to make sure you aren't into the scam that usually lures gamblers with 'insider's info of fixed match' and are willing to give gamblers a loan.
And once you loose you don't find insider anywhere.
I have experienced that - when you are in trouble even your true friends are gone and at that moment you realize you are only your true friend. Don't be greedy and do not trust other.

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August 05, 2022, 08:34:35 PM
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Taking a loan for betting is the first red flag. Saying it was because he has insider's info of fixed match is a second red flag. No one sane enough to do all of that, taking loans to bet on a match from insider's info. OP, you need to make sure you aren't into the scam that usually lures gamblers with 'insider's info of fixed match' and are willing to give gamblers a loan.
And once you loose you don't find insider anywhere.
I have experienced that - when you are in trouble even your true friends are gone and at that moment you realize you are only your true friend. Don't be greedy and do not trust other.
Never ever tend nor expect that there's someone would gonna help you in times of those hardship or hardtimes because you are indeed the only one who could able to help yourself.
Basing up on real experience then i had really able to experience those things and i do heavily agree that taking a loan just for you to make bets or simply gambling is indeed a
red flag.Its not really worth for the risk because having some loan just for you to gamble is not a really good idea and also having those fixed matches information
is something that cant really be able to surface out that easily.

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August 05, 2022, 08:55:51 PM
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Fixed matches will never be made public. That is believing in fairy tales. Of course you get a 50-50% match that can go either way. And then when you see that bet and he wins, you think it's real. But the truth is you just got lucky. IS a matter of going wrong, because real fixed bets will never be shared with people on a forum, that's one thing for sure. You could only get some value bets but that's not that easy either. Can remember an example of Benfica from long ago, who had to play against a Covid team.

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August 05, 2022, 09:32:18 PM
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Taking a loan for betting is the first red flag. Saying it was because he has insider's info of fixed match is a second red flag. No one sane enough to do all of that, taking loans to bet on a match from insider's info. OP, you need to make sure you aren't into the scam that usually lures gamblers with 'insider's info of fixed match' and are willing to give gamblers a loan.
Heard about this scam as well and see that many are still getting into this kind of scheme. I don't really know if you can trust that guy about the insider's tip but for me,  getting the loan just because of that tip without any assurance are too risky, and in gambling we should not gamble if we don't have money at all, this can lead into a big debt trap and most probably if the result is not good, the loan might get defaulted and if you have that collateral, for sure the lender will get that.
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August 05, 2022, 11:30:53 PM
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Anyway, the bet won easily so I couldn't help but feel like I should've taken out the loan... Sad

I do think that you are lucky, considering that you won the sports event by purely basing it on an insider info. Remember, the bet that you are dealing on is so risky that if you were to take out a loan, there is no guarantee that you would win this amount of money even with the insider info.

In gambling, it is always better to be safe than sorry. Preventing a loss is so much better than actually paying for your loan in the event of a loss. Besides, almost all gamblers experience this "paranoia" that they should have betted more money in the process.

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August 08, 2022, 03:26:23 PM
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Anyway, the bet won easily so I couldn't help but feel like I should've taken out the loan... Sad

I do think that you are lucky, considering that you won the sports event by purely basing it on an insider info. Remember, the bet that you are dealing on is so risky that if you were to take out a loan, there is no guarantee that you would win this amount of money even with the insider info.

In gambling, it is always better to be safe than sorry. Preventing a loss is so much better than actually paying for your loan in the event of a loss. Besides, almost all gamblers experience this "paranoia" that they should have betted more money in the process.
One advice which I would like to make is please dont take bank loan. Never in your life.
The installment eats you up like a termite and there is no end to it. Be very very careful

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August 08, 2022, 07:15:17 PM
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Hi everyone, about a month ago I made a post about having insider info for a soccer match and I asked the community what the best way was to take out a large loan. I had a lot of people advise me not to do so, so I took your advice and didn't take out a loan, instead I just placed the amount I already had in my account.


Anyway, the bet won easily so I couldn't help but feel like I should've taken out the loan... Sad

I wanted to share a match on here in case anyone wants to follow along, I'm unable to place a large bet on this so I'm hoping someone else takes advantage. I hope this isn't against any community guidelines.


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Over 3 @ 2.14


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It won, but what would have happened if it didn't come through?  You would completely screw your entire life up over one bet.  Taking loans out to even invest is not the best advise, so of course people would guard against telling you to take that loan out.  Even if you think you know the outcome and what it might be, there's always the other side in which it doesn't happen.  Just be happy you won some money.

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August 08, 2022, 07:32:46 PM
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Why does someone have to gamble when the funds is not yours? or i mean coming from Loan when there is no complete or assurance even if this is a Fixed matches because the chance of losing is always there and this is why its called gambling.
and also those fixed matches does not comply with legit and fair gaming so better not to support those.
I think sometime we don't even know what is going on with us and we are just running after more and more money.
Taking loans and putting ourself in more trouble. However the loan at this has reached at 33% interest rate and is the highest in the history even then people do take loan and loose them in bets.
With greed, everyone can be blinded with money. So as much as we want to increase our bets and chances of winnings, we end up taking loans even if we know its not appropriate because if we get lucky, we could have huge amount in an instant. That is why even if the loan interest is mostly unbearable, but we always end up believing that taking risk through taking loans will always be worth it once we win the jackpot prize. But as expected, most of the gamblers end up losing more and then they get into troubles on how to pay the loan.

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In gambling, it is always better to be safe than sorry. Preventing a loss is so much better than actually paying for your loan in the event of a loss. Besides, almost all gamblers experience this "paranoia" that they should have betted more money in the process.

Aside from it being a headache to pay for that monthly loan, it's risky in the first place to get a loan without a strong financial source of income. Since all the loan money was busted in gambling, that will just give a much heavy toll on that person since the loan wasn't used for a good purpose.

And give me a break, since when a regular bettor will have access to fixed match information?

OP just may be a victim of those services claiming they have access to a fixed match. Since some of those bets win, OP thinks that they are legit and accurate which in the long run, the result will be worst and the company just let OP take the bait to subscribe to their service.
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August 08, 2022, 08:22:59 PM
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Hi everyone, about a month ago I made a post about having insider info for a soccer match and I asked the community what the best way was to take out a large loan. I had a lot of people advise me not to do so, so I took your advice and didn't take out a loan, instead I just placed the amount I already had in my account.


Anyway, the bet won easily so I couldn't help but feel like I should've taken out the loan... Sad

I wanted to share a match on here in case anyone wants to follow along, I'm unable to place a large bet on this so I'm hoping someone else takes advantage. I hope this isn't against any community guidelines.


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11:30 AM ET

Jaro vs Ekenas

Asian Total
Over 3 @ 2.14


1st Half - Asian Total
Over 1 @ 1.65



match link: https://www.flashscore.com/match/vFo3COwn/#/match-summary
telegram: footy888

I am glad you won the bet, but taking out a loan to gamble was a bad life decision which could have taken a very bad turn. I hope your latest gambling win does not inspire you to take out more loans to gamble with. As far as betting goes, I only bet with money I can afford to lose without having to take out any borrowed money. In fact, I hate asking for loans. How did you even convince someone to loan you money to use for betting? Hopefully that was not mafia loans  Roll Eyes Tongue. That could have turned out really badly.


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August 08, 2022, 08:25:07 PM
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Why does someone have to gamble when the funds is not yours? or i mean coming from Loan when there is no complete or assurance even if this is a Fixed matches because the chance of losing is always there and this is why its called gambling.
and also those fixed matches does not comply with legit and fair gaming so better not to support those.
I think sometime we don't even know what is going on with us and we are just running after more and more money.
Taking loans and putting ourself in more trouble. However the loan at this has reached at 33% interest rate and is the highest in the history even then people do take loan and loose them in bets.
  But as expected, most of the gamblers end up losing more and then they get into troubles on how to pay the loan.
This is the point we try to explain OP, risks are there and it can cause very bad consequences if something goes wrong. Imagine taking a loan with a high-interest rate and not being able to pay at the requested time as you made an agreement during the application period, the interest will grow to the moon after a few months and the gambler will only pay an extra interest % without paying a single dime on the main amount. I would never go for this type of deal even if there is a 10% chance to win the Jackpot. Nothing worth ruining your weeks and mood.

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August 08, 2022, 08:59:23 PM
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Why does someone have to gamble when the funds is not yours? or i mean coming from Loan when there is no complete or assurance even if this is a Fixed matches because the chance of losing is always there and this is why its called gambling.
and also those fixed matches does not comply with legit and fair gaming so better not to support those.
I think sometime we don't even know what is going on with us and we are just running after more and more money.
Taking loans and putting ourself in more trouble. However the loan at this has reached at 33% interest rate and is the highest in the history even then people do take loan and loose them in bets.
 But as expected, most of the gamblers end up losing more and then they get into troubles on how to pay the loan.
This is the point we try to explain OP, risks are there and it can cause very bad consequences if something goes wrong. Imagine taking a loan with a high-interest rate and not being able to pay at the requested time as you made an agreement during the application period, the interest will grow to the moon after a few months and the gambler will only pay an extra interest % without paying a single dime on the main amount. I would never go for this type of deal even if there is a 10% chance to win the Jackpot. Nothing worth ruining your weeks and mood.
When it comes to loan then first thing comes in mind is interest which means as a borrower then it would really be your responsibility on paying it back with interest in due time or specific date.
If you do make yourself get involved with gambling then it doesnt really give assurance for have a winning which you might be thinking on repaying those loans on using gambling activity profits
which is really a very wrong mindset to have.You cant really just having that kind of set-up because we know on how risky gambling is and you are putting yourself into a big trouble
if you do took a loan and repaying with gambling profits because you cant assure whether you would be losing or winning on those bets made.

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August 08, 2022, 09:39:45 PM
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I am glad you won the bet, but taking out a loan to gamble was a bad life decision which could have taken a very bad turn. I hope your latest gambling win does not inspire you to take out more loans to gamble with.

That might be what happened now after that win. Since the information of the fixed match is correct, OP was being encouraged more to place a bet for that inside information, and probably after winning some consecutive bets, the loan will be the next one at risk. OP doesn't have a direct insider but it's just that it was just also passed to his source.

And since there's a hesitation on the part of OP, it makes me think that the information is not really a sure bet but just timing it was won.

It's the same on other tipster's services that will just predict a match without actually placing a bet nor will give any analysis then if able to get good winning stats and records, they will call themselves successful and will try to lure some subscribers to follow them with pay.
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August 13, 2022, 09:56:13 PM
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It is very easy to borrow and so hard to pay off.
I have never met a single person in my life who has borrowed the money and paid off the way they borrowed the money.
If the loan is taken for some good reason like for starting any business then it is good and it can be paod off. But for gambling or anything like that is pretty much awful decisions in my opinion.

If the OP can verify the reliability of his insider information. Taking a loan will not gonna hurt much to boost his bets but not the point that loan an amount worth a forune and invest it on gambling. I agree to your opinion if we are talking about normal gambling here but the OP case is different because he is claiming that he has an insider information that will give him an advanced info on the outcome of the game which is really happening in sports on some countries.
Well for me this always represents a risk, because even if they say that the game or the results are fixed in advance, it also represents a great risk, I would not be so confident in that, although this type of practice does not surprise me because obviously in everything it has always been fulfilled, besides this reminds me of the series called "Peaky Blinders" which they do this type of practices that was also done at that time, this is something that happens not only in sports games, I think in many They fix things and their business model increases greatly, as well as the large raffles that are held, which are very common.

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